No.135836
>>135834Looking forward to see what their demo looks like, hope they can keep momentum going despite the IRL obligations. I wish them luck.
After that I'll see if there's an opportunity to write for it since they're just looking at a few to start.
>>135835It is a good thing. With how low the bump limit is for /jp/ and the relative speed of the board it's just not possible to run a project like that solely there, much to the chagrin of some fags who whined about altchans and namefagging. Organization-wise, the Wapchan thread and their attempts to make a design document seems to be good, and the admin is interested in it which is fantastic.
No.135857
I did my bi-yearly check-in on 4chan. I like to keep up with what's going on there code wise to see how bad things really are. Some observations;
I discovered another set of key words that are shadow banned. If you post them (or a phrase including some of them) your post will go through but it will not be visible to other users. I'm up to a fairly long list of known keywords now. It doesn't matter how long you wait the post will never appear. But if you attempt to post shortly afterwards you'll still be denied due to the anti-spam cool down.
The "wait 900 seconds" dialog box is still there but now it's kicking in even if you hold on to the cookie. Obviously, if you use Librewolf or another browser that dumps cookies you'll be stuck with waiting again if you close your browser session. But it's doing something funky with stock firefox now as well.
Certain keywords almost instantly trigger bot responses. Certain threads are the same way. Usually the generals. You can tell it isn't a real person because they reply way too fast with the same canned reply over and over again. Typically, something mean and discouraging.
There are two lists of no-no words now. One is outright shadow banned. The other alerts moderation and/or the companies getting paid to shit the place us. But your posts will appear for awhile at least. But if you keep at it after 2-3 posts with said keywords you get flagged for a global shadow ban and the website sets 3 or 4 cookies it doesn't normally set. I'm going to try to trigger this again tomorrow and inspect the contents of those cookies to get an idea of what they're about. They didn't exist the last time I visited several months ago.
I think it's helpful to keep up with the goings on over there tech wise because it's a good indication of what other platforms are probably doing behind the scenes.
This is the end of my autism report.
No.135859
>>135857Wanted to add. I do these tests over a wide variety of websites every few months. Most of the time people try to explain away what I'm talking about with something like
>they're just shitpostingbut what I discovered is pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain. There is a long list of key words that if posted anywhere on the web trigger either a shadow ban or instant responses from bot swarms no matter what hour of the day you post them. They do not reply with common shitposting phrases most of the time either. It isn't just a bunch of people mashing F5 and posting
>kys faggotIt's usually a sentence/phrase that you'll rarely see posted anywhere along with some common forced meme phrase tacked on to the end. Basically, they try to explain whatever you said away with flawed logic then accuse you of being crazy/deranged/mistaken/stupid/old/"them" etc. It's usually worded in such a way that it's a discouraging personal attack.
When these responses come from actual named accounts you can never get any true discourse out of them. They still can't follow logic well and don't get common references. Much like the bots of old that couldn't read text in images. You can prod them a little and make them core dump in other words.
From what I've gathered what is happening is this; Some organization(s) has software similar to Google Alerts set-up to watch the entire web. When you post certain keywords/links whomever is in control of it gets alerted. From there their system will send an automated response (or 3) from obvious bot accounts. Mostly brand new accounts with little history (when you can view such things) or old accounts that have obviously not been logged into from the original owner in a long time.
This system will attempt to bait and derail you through personal attacks. If you do not take the bait it will spazz out. But when it does that it sends an alert to an actual person. Who will always respond within a few minutes. You can tell it's a real person because they'll make a minor attempt at actually arguing a bit with you. If you don't take _their_ bait and continue to reply to them while extending on the original keyword you posted that got their attention there will be a 10-30 minute lag until their next reply to you. Usually, not a very good one and usually in anger. It's at this point you'll find yourself either shadow banned or outright banned from where ever it was you had this interaction. These people are not moderators by the way (at least the accounts they're using at the time aren't). But they always seem to have a direct line to the mods/admin on whatever platform. Usually they're also "trusted reporters" as well.
I've seen this same pattern going on more places than you could ever imagine. I would post the key words here as an example but I don't want to bring attention to this place. So you'll have to take my word for it. The keywords are pretty easy to discover on your own and I'm still finding new ones all of the time. No doubt new ones are being added all of the time....
Anyway, I test this stuff on 4chan because that seems to be the main hub where they beta test this system before deploying new updates of it to platforms with accounts. Since they don't have to do the same legwork on an anonymous imageboard as they do on places like youtube, twitter and the usual places (some obscure forums are worse than those two believe it or not).
I see the same phrases and what has to be the same actual people running these bot swarms all over the place. It's obvious all the actual humans are trained the same way and that this is their day job. It's like Shareblue on steroids.
I'm compiling my findings and writing a short book/guide about this. Which I'll probably not be able to publish anywhere. It'll be a v2.0 of the "Gentleman's guide to forum spies" since a lot has happened since v1.0 was published over a decade ago now. Their tools are getting really advanced these days. This is probably the main reason why LLMs exist in the first place. I suspect (read: know) this same system is being used to monitor all phone calls as well (they admitted it years ago) and probably for many other things we're not aware of.
Spying sure is interesting subject. Thanks for reading my blog.
No.135861
>>135857>>135859ANY evidence of what you've said would be great, you know. Maybe I'm just not posting on the "right boards", but I haven't seen any of what you've posted about.
Seriously, why not just post the keywords? Embed them in an wavy, noisy image if you're really afraid of attention being drawn here.
No.135865
>>135857Are you willing to share your list?
I've been seeking one for a couple years now actually; very frustrating when the few times I need to make a long post and I'm trying to isolate whatever is getting flagged, since they just don't tell me what to remove.
No.135879
Did zzzchan die?
No.135880
>>135879Hmm, strange. I did look at it for the hell of it a couple weeks ago and it seemed to be working fine, albeit a fair amount of boards were abandoned. I didn't see any announcements about problems, although Russia blocked it apparently. The /v/ board was the most active one by far, but I can't really remember much else.
No.135897
>>135896>canadians reporting us over cartoonsv.....................
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No.135898
>>135857This was an interesting read.
I have a strange story and that's when I tried to post on 4chans /cm/ board only for the site to say "post successful" and my post not show up, the content was only this panorama and saying that I'm willing to make more. what's odd is that before trying to make that post I haven't posted on 4chan in 12 years, I have moved, switched ISPs and have a new router and modem.
In attempting to fix the issue I have tried the following:
- Removing texts so it's only the image
- Switching to a fresh browser with no add-ons I tried both chrome(gross) Librefox, firefox and brave
- resetting my IP
- Waiting 5 days and trying again
- converting my image into other formats
- Changing the filename
- Using a proxy/VPN
Guess what? Nothing worked it just doesn't make sense to me.
No.135901
>>135900in the most recent part of that thread, the guy (probably the same) complaining about engine choice and development being on wapchan and not 4/jp/, overall doom and gloom
like just take it easy~, it's free, F R E E
No.135902
I'm very confused by the guy spamming down the thread about how they need to use AI. What's the point in doing a fun project if you don't do it yourself?
No.135903
it's trolling of course. AI doesn't actually work
No.135905
As long as you don't leave it in as the final product, I don't have an issue using AI to streamline work. It's not like anyone is going to notice if you trace it and bother to fix it up.
No.135906
I just received a Mixi2 invite from a friend. It seems to be really popping off with the Japanese.
I wonder if this is where they and X (deadbird) part ways.
No.135914
>>135906I would be very happy if the Japanese excise themselves from the western web once and for all.
No.135919
>>135906Is it another twitter clone? Seems like that's the dominant form of social site creation these days.
No.135921
>>135919Is a fediverse/mastodon clone if anything.
No.135922
Reddit isn't even in the public consciousness nowadays... Just twitter and Facebook..
No.135923
dude FACEBOOK isnt in the public consciousness
No.135924
>>135923well, as meta it's relevant
No.135925
>>135914Yeah, the web should be divided into separate, but equal, internets.
>>135923It's how old people (25+) stay connected with their IRL friends to share baby pictures and stuff.
No.135942
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/48489697Looks like the project to continue development on Shanghai.EXE, a Mega Man Battle Network-inspired Touhou fangame that got C&D'd, is dead. At least unless someone else picks it up, that is.
No.135955
>>135954you know those guys? what would you say is nice about them?
No.135956
>>135955Let's see:
>They've hosted /kind/ for over a year now, helped restore their classic theme and got the old kindmin on board>Site has an easygoing culture (probably due to banning political discussion).>Somewhat themed around Urusei Yatsura and other Rumiko works>Banned wojaks and pepes>Even though it was founded by /a/nons, it's more focused on actual discussion instead of shitposting>They have a radio>Every board has unique CSS>Admin is active and unusually transparent for an imageboardIt's almost like /qa/ if it was more /a/ instead of /jp/, or maybe an anonymous version of the forums of old.
No.135958
>>135957Doesn't seem like it, but I'm sure you could request them in the /wap/ board. Currently it's a mix of old anime bgm and touhou music.
No.135961
>>135956>it's more focused on actual discussion instead of shitpostingSo nothing like us.
No.135962
>>135961No,"shitposting culture" is very much
NOT kissu.
I don't have any problems with wapchan, but I'm not sure kissu has ever talked about doing a webring/friends thing with anyone. Unfortunately the 8chan people tainted the webring term on imageboards so it implies a specific culture that we don't have, but I guess if you made old-fashioned gif links people would know what you meant. Maybe.
No.135963
>>135961>>135962This was meant to be in reference to 4chan's /a/, not kissu.
No.135964
>>135962Wapchan isn't part of the ex-8chan "webring", but they do maintain relations with other sites through crosslinking.
https://wapchan.org/netfriends.html No.135965
>>135964I know, that's why I mentioned that the term could mean something to people that's unintended.
No.135967
>>135959I think people tend to misuse it because it's the only way you can color text. Then again, the only place I've ever seen that actually cares about it deeply is the hellhole known as heyuri.
No.135969
>>135962Measure the number of times Himari under a blanket has been posted to the number of times people have actually talked about AiPri. This is very much a shitposting site.
No.135970
round these parts we call it FUNposting
No.135971
>>135969You're confusing silly, non-serious posts with bothersome ones known as "shitposting" where people are purposely abrasive and "low quality", typically full of general template phrases from the wider internet.
You can't expect to have a lot of AiPri discussion when it's a silly and extremely niche. The fun threads pop up relatively often and people can interact without having watched the show. That's basically the essence of imageboards if you ask me, and it's the way culture grows. If you have hundreds of thousands of users like 4chan you can have a general thread that struggles to stay alive (and it's the only place AiPri exists) but that's heavily limited in its own way.
Such is the fate of niche stuff.
No.135973
>>135967¥ he doesn't knowIt's a funny cultural thing, I don't think anyone here really cares outside of funny haha smartass "who quote" opportunities. 4/jp/ is a different story since site culture at large is much different as there are far more people using it to be a rude asshole with their ebic maymay greentext and ergo get called out.
And they lack
the super cool tricks we have so longpost readability is harder when it's all a blob of white text, especially if you're afraid of being called out for "reddit spacing" which thankfully I've seen less of. It's just down to who's using it, our markdown would be abused just as much if most users were the exact retards who abuse it over there.
>the only place I've ever seen that actually cares about it deeply is the hellhole known as heyuriI've not been to heyuri and I don't intend to, so I don't have a horse in that race.
No.135974
>>135954>and they have a largely similar culture to us.They clearly hate lolicons.
No.135980
>>135974It doesn't seem like that way at all.
https://wapchan.org/cel/res/735.htmlhttps://wapchan.org/digi/res/41.htmlYou would think posts like this would get deleted or edited if they "hated lolicons". It is true that it's not a very common topic on the site, but there's nothing in the rules against it.
No.135981
>>135974I visited the site and the first banner I saw was from Creamy Mami, a well known lolicon show.
No.135986
>>135971There's an old phrase: "one's anon's funpost is another anon's shitpost." The difference between "silly" and "abrasive" is a matter of perspective and which meme words are acceptable depends on the people present. Surely you can see how going into a bunch of random threads and reposting the same image and canned text would be bothersome to some people. I think IBs need a certain tolerance for shitposting as they can lead to funny exchanges and a more cohesive culture, but a shitpost is a shitpost no matter what you call it. If you're using the term purely to refer to openly malicious posts, I think you're misusing it.
4/a/ is actually a good example of a place that held "serious discussion" as a holy grail, wiped out most of its own culture in pursuit of that, ended up with a board full of generals to facilitate it, then descended into unprecedented shitposting and spam waiting for it to come. Even the 15 minutes after a new episode drops and people stop to fulfill the thread's purpose are hard to take advantage of when the perma-bumpers just see it as a distraction. Also, I'm pretty sure smug has an AiPri thread, it's just a continuation of the previous season's thread because they're retarded.
No.135991
>>135980I was dragged through the mud by several people on wapkind and post deleted for encouraging people to be helpful and considering them friends rather than pushing people away. Haven't returned since despite being a member for many years before the revival. I would not trust that the same will not happen to anyone else.
No.135992
I think the quote is
>One man's culture is another man's shitpost.
From moot's screed justifying his forthcoming destruction of boards such as /a/. Uncoincidentally from the same news post announcing sage would be hidden.
No.135993
Someone posted this on wapchan so I figured I'd answer some questions.
>>135954I'm open to the idea myself if verniy is.
>>135957If you want a song to be added you can post a request. I try to source high quality versions of tracks.
>>135959Yeah, lol.
>>135974This isn't true. I'm not really a lolicon myself but I don't have issues with them provided they follow the rules (especially around NSFW content)
>>135991You would have to talk to the kindmin about this one. I will say that the board isn't exactly the same as it as on 8chan because wapchan is a different site with different (stricter) rules, especially in regards to bigotry.
I have lurked on here before. It's certainly the best /jp/-esque place I've found, though I didn't browse old /qa/ on 4chan so I'm less familiar with that.
No.135995
>>135993i'm not organizing any group events because there's nothing to do together
No.135997
>>135995Don't be so pessimistic.
We do anime streams and multiplayer games at least, but we could always think of other things if there's a larger and more varied group to draw from. New Year's is coming up which means it will be gikopoi time and that generally links up a few imageboard/textboards together in a shared little cat world.
(reposted to reply to the proper reply in the same thread)
No.136000
>>135993I'm not Vern, but we'd be fine with people having cross-promoting streams and events from wapchan on here and the inverse.
Also, I guess /kind/ is the continuation of the old kind that spawned off ota? Looks exactly the same.
No.136006
>>136005I made a few posts there recently, but this made me actually read their rules and now I'm pretty annoyed by seeing them posted around too.
No.136007
>>136005i think theyve just been doing more outreach recently
>>136006none of the rules seem particularly bad though the ai art ban won't have many fans around here
No.136008
>>136006I don't think it's that bad, their rules weren't anything I was ever at risk of breaking and seem to want people to post with pre-2015 sensibilities. It's a good thing they're getting their name out, I learned of wapchan with the 4/jp/ VN thread, though I realize it's also linked with the rottingangels board we talked about a while ago. While it doesn't fit my interests I know there's plenty of people who are pining for that kind of culture.
>>136007The AI art one is probably the most contentious, but I get they'd rather see generic anime image macros over some trash someone generated as a throwaway reaction image.
No.136009
>>136005figamin helped to rebuild 39chan recently
https://39chan.moe/meta/res/140.htmlseems to be quite the mover and shaker around altchans lately
No.136010
>>136007The AI art ban is actually something I like, but banning "bigotry" and then the very next line saying "no politics" is hypocritical and proof enough that the moderation holds very different ideals than my own.
No.136011
>>136010what ideals of yours would even be infringed upon by these rules? seems to me like they just don't want post election /pol/ type culture, not that different from kissu rules on extreme political content. its likely that they consider bigotry to not be a topic they want to debate people on the merits of. i guess thats hypocritical strictly speaking but i dont care honestly and i doubt most of the users there do, since spamming slurs "for the lulz" just derails actual conversations
No.136012
>>136010I don't see it as contradictory. It cuts out IRL hate speech and current politics not because they're soft, but because it doesn't contribute to anything they want to talk about. i.e. filters out your /pol/ types who cant comprehend talking about anime or games without wheeling the conversation back around to their all encompassing list of "group of people I really don't like".
Rules like that keep shit like this from happening.
No.136013
>>136010The site actually seems pretty loose with this rule. There's a thread on there where it's clearly some /pol/ guy trying to bait the admin and nothing actually happens because he broke none of the rules
https://wapchan.org/cel/res/2260.html No.136014
Its rules aren't any different from all the other "do not post like you're on 4chan" imageboards out there, including kissu. You're objecting more to the word "bigotry" and assuming that it means they're your enemy which is showing your own biases. It's already baked into the rules for every other place.
There's a big difference between the shoop da woop or randomly calling people fags and derailing threads over racial/etc spiels and trying to get people angry.
>>136007>i think theyve just been doing more outreach recentlyYeah, it's good to interact with other communities. It should be expected if people are talking about the place and they want to get input or just engage with other people. If people want to talk about a person or place and then get annoyed when the subject of discussion show up, then it's just rude gossiping.
No.136015
>>136014>If people want to talk about a person or place and then get annoyed when the subject of discussion show up, then it's just rude gossiping.The subject of conversation showing up in this thread is pretty common. Three instances just on this page that I can spot, rottingangels admin, nameless rumia, and figamin. For this reason I try to stay polite, I'd much rather say "oh hey it's 'that' guy!" over "oh, it's 'that' guy…" if they pop in.
No.136016
>>136014"Randomly calling people fags" counts as "posting like you're on 4chan" and is something that very few imageboards out there explicitly forbid, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that some imageboard users wouldn't want to post on a site where politically incorrect words can get you banned for being "bigoted". It's more common to have imageboards that only forbid modern 4chan buzzwords and/or politics in general, and still don't have people randomly calling each other fags as a side effect, because the users understand that such posts are low quality without having to be told that it's mean and evil hate speech.
No.136017
>>136016I disagree, I think calling someone a fag or using fag as a suffix is kosher and should always be kosher.
Being playfully racist and bigoted is kosher, don't be such an uptight prude my nigga.
No.136018
>>136016Nothing in the rules calls bigotry "evil", "mean" or "hate speech". They probably have more issue with the fact that it's almost always synonymous with low quality/off topic posts, as shown by the example they give being "troon" which I have never seen used in an actual intelligent conversation, and which is almost always accompanied by kuso soyjak edits.
No.136019
>>136018>They probably have more issue with the fact that it's almost always synonymous with low quality/off topic postsThis is not what calling it "bigotry" communicates. They have a rule against wojaks because "they don't fit the theme of the site", but the word "t-oon" is treated differently, the no-bigotry rule even mentions that just using the word will earn you a permanent ban, unlike all the other rules. Stop being dishonest.
No.136020
>>136019Its what it communicates to those of us who arent predisposed to believe that any site saying they dont want bigotry is the enemy. Clearly youre sympathetic or at least neutral towards /pol/ types, so the site isnt for you. Luckily theres a bunch of other imageboards out there that have no problem with that so youre free to use them.
No.136023
>>136010i agree with everything you said, "bigotry" resonates with a peciular tohnochan post. which lead the downfall of imageboard in post. using another term would be better...
No.136024
>>136020You mention other people's biases but you fail to see your own, it's entirely possible to dislike both /pol/ types and that kind of rule. The owner of that other imageboard that had "bigotry" in its rules removed it after people explained why it was problematic in this very thread. Also I've known about wapchan since its inception on 4/a/ and I've never been interested in it, that's not the point.
No.136027
>>136023what tohnochan post and what imageboard?
No.136028
>>136027it was in thread of tohnochan mentions in worldwide web, i've been trying to find it but forgotten if it was in a hidden board. the imageboard is hard to locate as it wasn't mention + css style, only cropped screenshots provided by poster.
No.136029
Seems there is a lot of debate on rule 2. I was probably too broad on it.
Would something like "We don't tolerate disruptive language. Please stay on topic when using the site. If you come here just to rant about groups you don't like you will be banned." be better?
I can see how
>>135082 makes a reasonable argument. There hasn't actually been any bans related to this rule yet.
No.136030
>alot
just one guy
No.136033
i think the funniest part about this debate is that it's been more active than all of wapchan in the same timespan. proves this guy
>>136019 was purely here to stir shit.
>>136029you're fine. don't bend the knee to retards
No.136035
>>136029Your wording is specific and I do prefer it over "bigotry".
As reference:
> 2. We don't tolerate bigotry. Please be mindful of this. Buzzwords like "troon" will get you permanently banned.to
> 2. We maintain a respectful community and expect all posters to engage in constructive dialogue. Please keep your posts on-topic and refrain from using inflammatory language or making derogatory remarks about specific groups. Failure to do so will get you permanently banned.or
> 2. We encourage respectful and on-topic discussions, posts that encourage any form of disrespectful or inflammatory content will not be tolerated. No.136038
>>136037should I delete or at least make that page unreadable...
No.136039
>>136037don't see anything wrong with those rules, they're pretty concrete, last one just allows leeway for whatever without needing a specific rule against it
No.136040
>>136011You don't need to ban "bigotry" to prevent /pol/ culture, you don't even need to ban politics. Personally, I think politics bans are overly broad and prevent good, funny, or relevant posts from being made, but I can accept assuming they're off-topic for a retro anime board. But banning people from insulting whatever modern political groupings the moderation has decided are to be protected is a political statement from the moderation and banning political discussion after that is saying that users cannot outwardly disagree with those politics. The greatest benefit of anonymity is that you can speak without needing to filter yourself for the sake of your reputation or relationships. You can hate faggots and still make good posts and I like being able to see people's prejudices laid bare.
No.136041
>>136038Eh, why? This whole conversation is because someone was bothered by a word and people are taking it to heart too much. Rules establish the cultural baseline and people like different imageboard cultures. Not everyone has to agree with each board's rules.
No.136044
>>136037>swastikasThat's just silly, but the rest is pretty reasonable self-protection stuff and "we're not 2008 4/b/".
>>136029Honestly, if it hasn't been an issue on the site I'd just leave it at "all posts should relate to the topic of the board" and you can address people thinking that stuff is related to retro anime/gaming/kindness if it becomes an issue. I get being concerned about banned-from-4chan people bringing shitposting over, but when 4chan is auto-deleting posts for saying niggerfaggot you probably don't want to give the impression you do the same. Rules are how you present yourself to new users and people looking for a new IB to post on are likely to be sensitive to potential moderation biases against them. I don't want to get invested in a community only to get perma'd for making a racist joke or something.
No.136046
>>136040>But banning people from insulting whatever modern political groupings the moderation has decided are to be protected is a political statement from the moderation and banning political discussion after that is saying that users cannot outwardly disagree with those politics.I see where you're coming from now. You're afraid that banning politics means you cannot criticize when moderation drags in politics. That by banning XYZ means the moderation can use it as a cudgel to ban you for calling them out for breaking their own rules, am I correct in that statement?
I guess giving moderation the benefit of common sense and trusting they won't shit where they eat isn't an option, maybe I was setting my expectations too high and that all moderation is never above a discord or reddit level of arbitration.
Yeah I get it, seen it before where old guard gets replaced by normalfags when
thing gets popular and they go on a power trip over their little fiefdom (SCP anyone?); but, cmon, it's /a/ & /jp/ spinoffs and otaku culture. I would think admins are well aware of that sort of takeover and prefers to foster /a/ & /jp/ culture, why else would they make their imageboard in the first place if not to post there without having to worry about all the extra baggage modern internet has? Having a userbase that doesn't jump at obvious bait like a pack of rabid dogs also helps, that linked /pol/tard from earlier with his bait thread didn't get much attention and it died off. If admins run a tight ship, I just don't see how the site could slide into political tribalism if you just keep any of that shit out in the first place. Sure the rules could be clarified since some troglodyte coming to rules lawyer is an inevitability, but I'm pretty confident most everyone here understands the spirit of the rules.
All in all I think it's a non-issue and if there comes a time it becomes a bigger problem then I have faith the admin can sort it out.
>>136044>That's just sillyContext context context. Unless it's about a Hearts of Iron mod or something, posting the nazi flag (and usually paired with is a pretty obvious sign you're not there to be a genuine poster. It's an easy excuse to boot retards. Meanwhile if the topic fits it I could post it in the original religious context without worrying of catching a ban. Could it be abused? Yes, I can easily imagine a dumb mod confusing a manji for a swastika and banning me on the spot because it violates the letter of the rule, but I doubt it here.
>I don't want to get invested in a community only to get perma'd for making a racist joke or something.At what point in any conversation is an accidental racist joke serious enough for a ban a risk? It's not like you're talking face to face, you can quite literally read the room. When I think of getting perma b& for a racist joke I think posting the Total Nigger Death copypasta unprompted in a K-On! thread, and the things in /trans/. Maybe your 'power level' is too high for my puny mortal comprehension and that's why I don't understand your problem, but I heavily doubt a casual remark about comparing some character or group gypsies in an on-topic post is going to twist panties enough for a ban; if it's not a political diatribe baiting for a thread derailment I don't see how it's an issue. Hate to be the guy who says "just use common sense lol", but just use common sense lol.
In any case I think this conversation's dragged on long enough with points made for and against rules that admins can act on if they wish. I wrote too much and I'll stop now ;_;
No.136062
>>136046Basically, yeah. Mods don't need rules to ban you, but the rules do give you an indication of how mods are going to act and what kind of thing they take personal offense to. If the rules just said "no politics" I could give the benefit of the doubt and assume it means people from both sides need to leave that stuff at home, but when it reads "if you insult tr**ns then I'll permaban you, also no politics teehee" then it looks like the moderation is just being one of those Discord/Reddit admins who use force to keep out anyone who isn't aligned with their politics. I value the clash of viewpoints you get from everyone being able to insult one another so I wouldn't want to be a part of a place that does that, even if it wasn't also putting me at risk of being banned over some stupid little joke.
I'm pretty sure like 99% of people coming to altchans are 4chan veterans who are getting out for one reason or another and given that mods there are notorious for being fags the expectation of mods to use the rules to beat people they don't like into submission is going to be carried by most of your new visitors. I believe the admin has good intentions and just worded things poorly based on what he's said here, but the site itself asks you to read the rules before posting (lol) and if you combine that with a random post somewhere like here saying "oh, we're pretty strict about the no bigotry rule" then would you really stop to dig deeper into whether that's actually acted upon or move on to one of the dozens of other altchans (or worse, conclude they're all the same shit and sticking with 4chan is the best you can hope for in modern times)?
Also, what's silly is putting a picture of an anime girl doing a heil in the same category as a call to action. I know the rule isn't enforced here, but new users won't and the respectful ones who read the rules and try to fit in don't need the worry of whether the humorous context of their post is enough to make it acceptable. Essentially, highly specific rules give the impression that context doesn't matter.
No.136063
>>136047holy flip it's junko!
No.136064
>>136063Hell yeah Nazi Junko fuck yeah
No.136065
>We don't tolerate bigotry. Please be mindful of this. Buzzwords like "troon" will get you permanently banned.
>We maintain a respectful community and expect all posters to engage in constructive dialogue. Please keep your posts on-topic and refrain from using inflammatory language or making derogatory remarks about specific groups. Failure to do so will get you permanently banned.
The old version of rule 2 was much better. The new one is too vague and will make a lot more people worry about whether they're going to get permabanned than the previous version did. For example, the new version can be read as saying you'll permaban someone for getting mad in an argument and throwing out some insults instead of constructive dialogue.
If there's a problem with the old version, it's the language "will get you permanently banned" which is still present in the new version. Moderators should be making individual judgements about whether a particular case merits a permanent ban.
No.136066
>>135082n°1 reason these rule exist on small imageboards is only because the admin doesn't get in a fight with their personal e-friends.
That's really just it. If you are a known staff on a non-XYZ friendly site, you can't have friends from XYZ because they'll inevitably pass part of their frustration onto you, or just feel betrayed.
In the end these sites exists for the admin's enjoyment. They aren't gonna abandon their personal clique for the sake of a bunch of anons.
No.136067
I don't get payed enough to do this for the sake of anons
No.136068
ideologically an admin exists for the benefit of the existing site culture. Not hypothetically to protect an ideal of freespeach and open borders. It's just your own ideals being passed onto admins you disagree with
No.136071
has anyone realized that all of these debate posts about wapchans rules would be much better actually on wapchan? where the users of the site can actually see it? instead its spamming this thread where its completely off topic
No.136072
yep
No.136073
>>136071since when has the happenings thread ever been on topic besides when it's completely dead
No.136075
>>136071I have to counter this comment to say that this conversation is perfectly acceptable and welcome in this thread and it's happening because people enjoy engaging in it.
Meta talk in the happenings thread is not offtopic. Imageboard rules and culture concern everyone that uses them. This conversation started because of a happening involving 4/jp/ and wapchan working on a Touhou VN, and conversation naturally drifted into related things. Years ago when 8chan was in the process of imploding this thread was dominated by its discussion, so much so that it was linked around as a place for people to learn about things. This thread isn't meant to just be a place of direct value to kissu users, but a place for people to talk about text/imageboards in general. This is why the rules here are a bit more lax.
No.136076
>>136075That being said, I could potentially move it into its own thread if people want to have a lengthy discussion about imageboard rules. I have a feeling that the conversation is mostly finished, however.
No.136077
>>136071I don't care if they see it because I'm not trying to change how wapchan operates. Like anons said, they're free to have their own culture, ideals, and friends. I've made like three posts on their site and am not at all invested in it so it's not my place to barge in and tell them to change. What we're discussing was sparked by wapchan being mentioned, but the issue is larger than any one site and I would like kissu people to keep it in mind as I am invested in this site and community.
No.136079
fetty wap
No.136080
I miss the sharing culture. Threads like comiket dumps will never happen.
No.136089
>>136080wasn't because of begging ruin it? dumps moved to doujinstyle
No.136094
>>136089Most of the stuff was reposted from japanese p2p networks and they are dead now.
No.136095
>>136094technically still active but more obscure like share on hyphanet
No.136106
>>136095Japanese freenet users are measured in doznes in my experience
No.136133
>>136066Sounds easily solved by having no friends B)
No.136187
>>135991Some of this is questionable, but I don't want to get bogged down arguing. It's true that your post was deleted. That was an overreach on my part. All the complaining about /kind/ on and off the board got to me. That incident where an oldfriend got dogpiled for merely suggesting he might have "prejudiced" views disturbed me too. Nothing like that had happened on any other instance of the board. After all this, I developed a foolish mindset of wanting to avoid all controversy. Your post being deleted was the result. Now I understand /kind/ needs to be itself unapologetically or risk losing what makes it special. Anyway, I hope you give /kind/ another chance someday. It could use more friends like you who get it.
No.136213
>>136208how can you undo nothing
No.136400
>>136399Hmmm, don't see anything to convince me that this trip user is doing more than trolling or roleplay:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/tripcode/AshKOb5.II/Not saying it's impossible, but I trust this as much as I trust QAnon.
No.136401
No, wait, I take that back. The tripfag posted pic
here and the UI at the bottom (view engagements on the left, admin portal on the right) implies it really is Elon himself.
Is he retarded enough to commit the basic blunder of not opening incognito, or did someone spoof admin shit to better bait people with? I don't know, but that's the one piece that would point towards it being him.
No.136404
can't believe people are this gullible honestly
No.136411
>>136409You can also wait 15 minutes.
No, it hasn't helped with spam at all and you get annoyed by it almost every time your IP changes.
No.136417
>>136404>>136406You guys are being mean! He qualified it with "alleged". The guy made an AI frog his twitter avatar and named himself "Kekimus Maximus" so you can't use the older, saner way of thinking.
No.136418
>>136417It was stupid and only a moron would even entertain the idea that it is real.
No.136419
>>136412Hiro wants every poster to stop and think "is what I'm posting important enough to spend 15 minutes saying it" before making a post on 4chan. This mindset will help ensure the site is filled with only high-quality posters, obsessive shitposters, and bots.
No.136420
>>136399Elon Musk is going to make anime real. His Mars colony will be populated by genetically engineered kemonomimi shabs straight out of Utawarerumono.
No.136421
>>136411this doesn't actually work for me, after the timer expires nothing actually happens
honestly i don't really care anymore at this point
No.136423
>>136420how long did that take to crack
No.136431
>>136424cute doll, but is something wrong with her neck...?
No.136436
>>136423I just did the easiest thing which was search the web for the string. Sometimes that's enough to find it in an existing list. In this case the guy had already posted it:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493145966/#493176247But it wouldn't have taken too long to crack since only the first 8 characters of the password are used.
No.136537
archives r ded
No.136552
>>136537They are still archiving but search is not currently enabled
No.136565
No self promotion of frog/wojak boards in the happenings thread or anywhere on kissu for that matter.
No.136573
>>134598something i noticed how these temporary email services may get your home ip address banned for unknown amount of time since these emails are being shared, currently i have a ban for entire month from
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39580694/ which is just reposted spam from 2 years ago
proxy service to post with captcha only exists for free anyways poor ecker
>>136565wasnt self promotion as i stumble across merklemap to find hidden secrets for different imageboards
from thread subject description
>Post interesting or unusual stuff concerning imageboards, textboards or related stuff here.its obvious
to me it is related to bantculture.com
No.136621
>>136573You didn't read between the lines
Only imageboards that belong to the clique may be discussed.
No.136623
>>136621There has recently been a host of 4chan.*** domains registered and promoted. They're dubious at best, and seeing a "qa" one flatly posted with no information is extremely suspicious. The /qa/ name refers to us or the wojak ragecomic army the 4chan mods birthed which raids and wipes out imageboards. It's not a group that's allowed to promote itself here for what should be obvious reasons. There's also the matter that no place enjoys empty imageboards ads.
The other deleted posts feature a guy that spams and roleplays as a frogposter from the 4/qa/ days for some unknown reason, and it would be pretty silly to not delete the guy that imagines himself as a comic book villain of ours.
I do plan to keep oppressing these marginalized groups.
No.136624
>>136623I am glad to see them terminated with extreme prejudice too.
No.136632
>>136623>The /qa/ name refers to us or the wojak ragecomic army>I was /qa/ before bothAh, so this is what knife to the heart feels like
But yes, there was a burst of frog activity on the other hap a few hours ago too. Funny how that one guy spawned a generation of copycats several years after he disappeared.
I'm convinced he was from ota. No.136633
>>136632Hyper dedicated autists? From the /jp/sphere? Surely you jest!
No.136634
>>136632>knife to the heartWell, I was going to mention that, but 2015 /qa/ people barely exist and they certainly don't as a group. I guess there's at least two of us here then.
I'd like to know where the rest of them went, but it's
TEN years ago now. Probably on twitter or discord like everyone else.
>I'm convinced he was from ota.Yeah, it was a running theory that the truly deranged individual(s) were from ota, mero or hima since they all had antisocial elements with severe mental illness to them.
No.136635
>>136634>I'd like to know where the rest of them went, but it's TEN years ago nowWe were 50 or so randos from disparate corners of the site and barely overlapping interests, except for a pejorative that could be roughly summarized as "man i love 4chan".
Part of the magic was everyone's eagerness to talk about their experiences in their turf. And deprived that hangout, they returned to their corners.
No.136636
god you people sound insufferable
No.136766
>>136765
what's this supposed to be about? Some roleplay?
No.136768
Was almost tempted into making a post on 4chan, but either the 15 minute timer is required every time you post on a new board or your posting authorization expires after a few days. I guess I'll find out which it is next week when I go to get banned from /a/ for the anniversary. It's certainly more effective than any ban I've ever gotten at preventing me from posting, so kudos to them on finally figuring that out I guess.
No.136776
Oh, and I don't think anyone has mentioned this here, but the phrase "sekai ni" triggers the auto-delete function and makes your post vanish into the abyss for some incomprehensible reason possibly related to the Mushoku general, so you can't post screenshots of Megumin's show without editing the filename if you're using standard naming conventions.
And also there's a second five minute timer for making new threads the first time to further corral people into the same handful of threads.
No.136787
when is 4chan going to die?
No.136811
>>136787Never, eventually all the posters will be replaced with bots and it will live forever as a pit of nonsensical shitflinging and namecalling.
No.136812
>>136811But where do all the real human beans go then?
Is there ever going to be a migration or is everyone being herded into X or whatever?
I hate this Internet, I hate centralization.
No.136813
On other news the other /hap/ made someone so upset they started a campaign to advertise it everywhere so it's filled with shitters. And it's working.
>>136787heh. Hey just announced a price increase for the 4chan pass.
This can only mean one thing: 4chan is in the red.
No.136814
Everyone went to x formerly known as twitter ages ago. Having an account makes life so much easier
No.136817
well, the passes were the same price for over a decade since they came out right?
inflation has has plenty of time to creep
No.136823
>>136813Or he just thinks he can make more money using inflation as an excuse like everyone else. He's definitely pushing them hard with the recent changes and how a group of since4pass users mysteriously show up whenever anyone complains about the timers to act smug, so it's possible they're in another financial squeeze.
>>136812Probably Discord mostly. That's how over half the site want it to behave anyway. And half of who's left would just use Twitter and/or Reddit until an altchan centralizes enough of the remaining IB users to draw their attention. It would still be a big shakeup to the web, both from the horde of neckbeard vikings yelling nigger everywhere and as a herald of other format-dominating social media platforms' collapses.
No.136831
>>136823>Probably Discord mostlyWhat? No. Not comparable.
No.136837
Tohno-chan has gone poof.
No.136838
>>136837I just opened it to check? Still there.
No.136841
>>136838You're right, I just switched browsers and its clearly there. Phew
I guess I gotta update/clear Brave then.
No.136861
the REDDIT browser
No.136914
>>136890Does this mean if I purchase a pass now, they give me money?
No.136915
>>136914It's a percentage increase, not an absolute one.
No.136925
>>136917>spams reddit>recommends using sex toys on childrenwtf i love AI now
No.136927
kids do love toys
No.136928
>>136925it makes sense that a bot would have a fetish for seeing girls get fucked by vibrating mechanical penises
No.136935
>>136933someone put Xs over the dead ones...
No.136939
>>136933I'm pretty sure it's based on the origin point of user migrations. meguca and fufufu are both definitely shoot-offs of /a/ groups. And then there's stuff like /vg/, /pol/, and /r9k/ all pointing to Discord, they didn't make it they just have a bunch of people move there to chat about whatever general they're in.
No.136941
>>136890Finally someone thinking of the janitors.
No.136972
>>136933/a/ = no fun allowed
No.136988
>>136972Unfortunately most of 4/a/'s spinoffs are rooted in people that liked the 'self moderation' era and were jilted by it being forcibly ended.
No.137131
Someone carried out a shooting in the cafeteria of Antioch High School in Nashville today, killing one victim and himself and wounding another. Shortly before the shooting, a user on X, @Endingpointer, linked to a manifesto full of memes from a certain wojak-themed imageboard. The author claims he is black and ashamed of his race, praises previous livestreaming shooters such as Tarrant, and concludes his manifesto with "REMEMBER KEEP JAKKING 'TEENS".
No.137133
>>137131he probably fired hundreds of rounds while holding the gun sideways and only got two hits, then accidentally shot himself while reloading or clearing a jam
No.137136
>>137131Hope the feds shut down that kuso site already, gives the rest of us chans a bad name.
No.137137
waow i love feds!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.137138
>>137131I wish I had somehow done something more to stop these people back on old /qa/
No.137141
>>137131>"REMEMBER KEEP JAKKING 'TEENS".Is teen really imported /jp/ lingo for the group as a whole or he was from that specific subgroup that targets everything related to old /qa/?
No.137142
>>137141He was 17 years old, there's 0 chance he even knew what old /qa/ was.
No.137143
>>137131Each of these shooters is more pathetic degraded than the last, like a photocopy of a photocopy. They just cannot be sincere, even on the day they choose to die.
I made a policy at least 3 memeshooters ago not to learn their names or read any of the rarted shitsmears they scrawled out for attention.
No.137146
>>137141i always thought the soyteen moniker was an insult that became a name they used for themselves
No.137150
>>137147flesh fang shab teen
No.137151
>>137147I'm a sucker for those spike tip earrings.
No.137160
>>137158>that could withstand a decade of neglect and mismanagementWhile moot is certainly a better admin that hiro/rapeape, I have to wonder how much of this is just due to the momentum that 4chan had built up by that point
No.137164
>>137158Great, so the resident shitposters will always still be there wallowing in filth but the casual posters who actually do stuff then come to post about it like for creative content will just fall off.
No.137172
>>137158jesus christ just go take a piss and get a drink or something and the 900 seconds will be up
i dont understand how some of you people do anything
No.137180
dumb argumentative shitposter above me
No.137182
>>137172>just go take a piss for 15 minutesYou have a bladder disorder.
They also give you a way harder captcha for the first ~3 days after getting verified which is basically impossible half the time before you can go back to the normal, auto-solved one.
No.137183
>>137182>They also give you a way harder captchaif you fail any of their captchas even once then you have serious brain damage
No.137188
>>137182>They also give you a way harder captcha for the first ~3 daysIt's worse than that. You always get the harder captcha if you use Firefox with hardened privacy settings.
>>137183Even if you never fail, the extra effort for every post and report adds enough friction that I find myself interacting with the site a lot less, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
My off-the-cuff funposts that took less time to write than the old captcha usually got more engagement than my effortposts, and many of them did spark real, positive discussion down the line. Sounds to me like they're sabotaging one of their main sources of engagement.
No.137190
>>137189It's funny because I would rather spend the upfront effort of getting familiar with a dozen other imageboards than spend a dozen cryptofucks to reward Hiro or the Ape for what they've done.
No.137191
>>137190Addendum after a few seconds of thought: I think the effort most posters are willing to spend is proportional to the effort they expect in return.
On a fast site/board that will move on without you, a few seconds is a barrier. On a slower imageboard with a more tight-knit community where most replies are meaningful, it's peanuts.
No.137194
>>137189They were never made with an audience in mind, they were a way to reward donators who were giving money to the site anyway because they liked the community. Then Hiro, who doesn't understand that sites can be anything but a way to make money, came in thinking that was the product he needed to sell and has spent the last decade twisting the site around to try to create an audience for them. He tried making them Gold accounts that let you post on the super special board, he tried making them forum badges for showing off what an epic 2015 oldfag you are, he tried making them spam licenses for autists and shilling companies, and now he's trying to make them a requirement to post at all.
No.137196
>>137194Bold of you to assume Hiro is sentient.
The more reasonable explanation for his conduct is that post-2016 election tourists and post-2020 culture warriors generated more replies-which-generate
d-more-replies than sincere posters without the outrage bait, and he naively assumed that short term kneejerk engagement would translate to long term financial investment.
No.137202
>>137196I referenced it earlier in the thread but Hiro is at least checked in enough that he's paying the couple contractor devs 4chan has money to keep developing the captcha.
Now we can take our best shot trying to infer his motivation but we know for sure he's motivated enough to spend on dev cycles to keep up the tit for tat upgrades for the last several months.
No.137211
>>137158>depresses the hell out of me. Only because you haven't truly dug into moot's thoughts on 4chan and moderation and realized how much of a nepotistic asshole he was.
All ideals and anonymous ethics until one of his irl friends ask to get mod.
No.137212
>>137172>jesus christ just go take a piss and get a drink or something and the 900 seconds will be up>i dont understand how some of you people do anything>lowcaps>argment is just wait it out lmaoRisking a ban here but I'm compelled to ask you to check your PC privileges and remember over half of IBs posters use their phones.
No.137213
>>137212That's dumb and fuck the phoneposters, if they can't wait 15 minutes on their little screens then its their own damn fault.
No.137215
¥not taking advantage
No.137218
>>137212I would love if all phoneposters became permanently unable to post, almost as much as I would love the same happening to greenposters.
No.137220
>>137218Please think of the japanese salarymen who can only afford to browse IBs while commuting.
No.137221
>>137220They're shit and they're the reason ~95% of japanese media is shit. If all wageslaves/phoneposters were segregated into a separate society with a separate internet just imagine how much better everything on the NEETs-only internet would be. The wageslaves would still be taxed to pay for the NEET society of course. Imagine doing 40-man raids in MMOs for 15 hours straight with nobody leaving. Imagine if there was never another anime about boring shit like high school, working in an office, or being isekai'd into another world to work in a medieval office. Sites like reddit and twitter would become ghost towns and imageboards would become 10x better.
No.137222
>>137221>Imagine doing 40-man raids in MMOs for 15 hours straight with nobody leavingSounds awful I found a few hours to be too much listening to people talk and I played the game 15 hours straight.
>Imagine if there was never another anime about boring shit like high schoolBut I like some of those.
>and imageboards would become 10x better.A big majority of the worst most autistic awful posters that shit up boards all day long are already neets.
We need balance in life. I hate phoneposters because phones make people lazy, but remove all norms and neet society collapses from not having anyone to feel smugger than.
No.137225
>>137212>argument is just wait it outyes what do you want
do something else for 15 minutes its not a bother in the slightest
maybe its that youre a very busy entrepreneur with zero time to spare and not an internet dweller although i doubt that one
>but you are typing in lowcapsare you 12 years old
>check your PC privileges and remember over half of IBs posters use their phones.im just gonna say no
No.137226
lowcaps are a way of life
No.137227
>>137225dumber argumentativer lowercaser poster
No.137229
>>137228>I forgetwell i dont have that problem i think i might just be way smarter than you
>Even if I do remember to come back, the conversation has likely moved onpeople tend to not have the memory of a goldfish and will still understand what youre referring to 15 minutes after it
i think you might be confusing imageboard convos with rap battles
>or someone else has said basically what I wanted to sayif this happens that much then you dont often have something interesting to say
No.137235
>>137228If the conversation moved in 15 minutes that thread in question degenerated into a chatroom
Might as well not post at all, no interesting conversation will come from there.
No.137236
>>13723515 minutes is more than enough time for at least a moderately lengthy response and counter-response to be made that either clarify whatever you were going to say or move down a tangent different to what you were going to focus on, so at the very least you're going to have to make revisions based on what has happened in the meantime. It's not a chatroom just because people are talking fast, there also has to be a lack of direction for the conversation.
No.137238
I haven't set a foot in the cesspool since the elections, and I don't want to imagine how it must be after 20/01. I got a pass when I needed to reply fast for a multiplayer event, and I don't even know what to do with it now.
I wonder if the Hongfire forums still exist. I need a new place to migrate to.
No.137239
>>137238Hongfire got raped and destroyed a couple of years back.
The only real community for it is /hgg/ (on the webring 8ch).
No.137240
We have the erogame thread for thus btw
No.137241
>>137239Well, fuck. I'm looking at their last capture in Wayback Machine and it's not a pretty sight. Last time I was there had to be between 2008 and 2010. I remember it as a nice place.
>>137240I haven't played one of those in 20 years. After Clannad, after Clannad, I'm definitely happier with All-Ages version
No.137250
haven't thought about hongfire in a long while
No.137251
wish i got raped and destroyed
No.137252
>>137238All that's left of hongfire now is a discord.
Anime-sharing serves the same puprose now when it comes to ero-warez.
No.137272
arch.b4k.co has been dropped by the registrar after it was reported.
Last time I checked the archive of deleted opening posts for /v/, the board was getting spammed with CP. Coincidence?
No.137273
sigh
we really need to retire the concept of "image its ZOMG ILLEGAL to EVEN HAVE A TEMPORARY COPY OF" from society forever
No.137293
zzzchan has started banning loli due to the owner thinking that people that are posting it are using "innovative tactics" to get the site shut down. Any attempt to discuss this gets deleted even on their own /meta/ board.
No.137294
Has anyone else noticed being banned for a post you didnt make on cutiechan? Im not referring to phone data or the likes. Just your regular internet. For example i was banned for a post on /biz/ that was shilling some shitcoin, which i never made because i dont post on there. I was able to appeal that but then i also got banned because someone posted cutieshit and that was a unappealable 3 day ban.
What could be going on here?
No.137295
>>137294Your ISP may have assigned you a new IP. It's not exclusive to phone data. Most people have dynamic IPs it's just they don't change if you don't shut your internet off for long periods. You may also be a part of a botnet but this is less likely.
No.137299
>>137293What's the point in having a video game board where you can't discuss Unteralterbach? That was like half the reason for the /v/ exodus to 8chan in 2014.
No.137312
Can we focus on happenings again, please? We are starting a derail that may deserve its own thread.
No.137316
>>137315To clarify: what was deleted was a debate about CP and loli and tracing and stuff.
No.137329
>>137316Disingenuous summary. I accused anon of being a CSAM consumer disguising as a DFC enthusiast.
No.137330
my ban restrictions are off as soon as your posts were deleted
No.137331
>>137131He was a member of an enemy group of of ironic failtrolls who were trying to get a lot of people in trouble, for goodness sake he had Mr. Beast and Hasan in his manifesto.
No.137332
>>137329you consume more CSAM than he does
No.137333
>>137329Oh, sorry, I tried to smooth things over by painting over the ugly bits since it's my job as moderator not to let my own opinions influence things.
*Ahem*There was a slacktivist guy out of his element that should be a hacker on steroids chasing shadows somewhere else, perhaps the Chris Hanson fan forum. His zealotry over unrelated things was not asked for and is not the subject of the thread, so I deleted the posts so he could do his thing on 4chan or kiwifarms instead. At best his efforts were concern trolling and at worst he was sincerely imagining himself fighting some battle against evil instead of his own shadow.
No.137337
What happened to 4taba?
No.137338
>>137337Was it not closed by the admins of this site?
No.137339
>>137338Yeah. It got 30 posts a month and 28-29 were illegal spam ads. It's hard to find motivation to moderate the board every day when those are the numbers. Maybe it could be opened again at some point, maybe.
No.137340
>>137337it's supposed to be up, but not able to be posted, but I must have messed up on the start scripts/configuration moving the data to our home server because the software is as durable as glass.
No.137341
>>137336/qa/ should be X'd too
No.137344
Technically copypaste/hotwheels owns 420chan now, but I highly doubt he's going to do anything with the domain due to his remorse over the 8chan stuff.
No.137345
>>137342>>137344Fuck cripple-fatfur, he should either get off the pot or remake 420chan.
No.137347
>>137295>You may also be a part of a botnet but this is less likely.That is possible. Unfortunately i cannot control what my family downloads.
No.137355
>>137354
Good riddance, pissu on their grave.
No.137356
>>137342this diagram is stupid and makes no sense
No.137357
>>137356this diagram was made in either 2019 or 2020
No.137358
>>137333That's understandable, but letting such groups thrive poisons the well. Unteralterbach's impact changed Krautchan's demographics for the worse to the point the admin decided to kill the site.
No.137359
>>137358True enough, and its successor is ostracized from all other imageboards for carrying the torch. It's a real shame because it could have been a general 4chan competitor perhaps more than any other.
No.137362
wish people liked me enough for me to hold my own public q&a sessions.....
No.137364
>>137362You can always pretend to be someone else from the imageboard sphere and announce a Q&A. Not like anyone will ever know.
No.137376
After the archive stopped being easily accessible, somehow 4chan's /v/ changed a bit. Higher posting quality, less reposted spam, soyjacks and frogs threads stopped for a time. Unfortunately it seems to be devolving to to the normal situation after a few days.
I do hope places like Kissu are able to survive. 4 is a lost cause by now.
No.137377
>>137376>cutiechan is a lost cause by now>by nowYou are a decade too late for this statement.
No.137378
>>137358>Unteralterbach's impact changed Krautchan's demographics for the worse to the point the admin decided to kill the site.For the better, actually. And as for people deciding to kill sites over it, already covered in my post at
>>137273 No.137380
>>137377Even like that, I still had hopes it could be saved. But after the last year, not anymore. In the hypothetical scenario where it closes, it will be interesting to see to which communities the regulars will migrate.
No.137382
>>137272Admin made a temporary fix for the issue while he's trying to sort things out with the registrar.
https://rentry.org/3g6stb5g No.137384
>>137376This is pure placebo. Nothing changed.
No.137400
>>137397I still have access, but to be fair it's image dumping for the few threads that are active. I also don't intend to be mean, but when they were talking about a sekrit club board on /japan/ I thought they were talking about a different board I was not aware about, not bun.
There's still nenpo which I believe you just posted that same image in, but it's not touhou centric despite its theming.
No.137409
>>137398Can't believe this guy is still around. I don't keep up with all the webring offshoots anymore. But this is the same dude that burned /cow/'s streaming server to the ground in the most glorious way I've ever seen someone out a bunch of newbies. It was funny as hell watching chat that day. He live streamed himself reading 2hu doujins and they all had a meltdown. Wish I would have recorded it.
We had a lot of fun on another anon stream playing Soku tournament that this guy organized. Shame to see he's having so much trouble keeping an IB up. But it doesn't surprise me. He made A LOT of enemies.
No.137416
I really don't think we'll allow this thread to start talking about wojak sites in any serious capacity. It's quite antithetical to allow a presence that strongly wishes to hasten the demise of your own waning subculture. There is also significant drama involved which kissu really does not wish to invite here.
The good news is that those people seem to have ties to kiwifarms and also a significant presence in the 4chan happenings thread (blegh) so you could consider doing it in either of those places:
https://boards.4chan.org/r9k/thread/80188092 No.137417
>>137272Seems to be back up
https://arch.b4k.dev/>>137398Is this because of the cp bots? A shame, but everyone has to find their own solution to it.
No.137421
>>137398>easier to make an account system instead of manually whitelisting ips>I think that would defeat the purpose of being a somewhat anonymous imageboard.I don't understand that kind of logic. On a static IP you're not anonymous if the mod wants to look through your post history and on a dynamic one you don't change your IP every three posts. You're still anonymous as far as the other users of the site are concerned.
No.137424
>>137421IIRC it's not anonymity from a online paper trail, but the original point of being anonymous was that you didn't need to make an account to post and your handle or username or trip could be changed like a hat.
No.137426
>>137417Thanks. I will check later from home. Until I can't guarantee the CP has been removed, I am not risking checking it on a connection that is probably monitored.
>>137416In one more traditional community I still check from time to time, getting outed as an "Australian fruit farm" user is a guaranteed ban, and they are pretty good at sniffing alt accounts.
No.137429
Anonymous communication =! Untraceable communication.
As long as the emitter and receiver are on an equal, immutable standing, the purpose of anonymous communication is attained; The mechanics behind such communication are inconsequential.
>>137424 is also correct, the first reason people defended it was because logging in and out was considered a hassle for no benefit. People took some time to realize pseudonymous discussion wasn't actually better.
>>137416>It's quite antithetical to allow a presence that strongly wishes to hasten the demise of your own waning subculture. That presence is a direct consequence of kissu being mentioned on that thread you linked. It has a specific source: There's an anon that routinely gets told "go back to pissu" because he has a compulsive need to defend the IRC days every time old /qa/ gets brought up, problem is every single group from old /qa/ posts in that thread and they challenge his claims all the time. Then he turns sour and passive agressive, encouraging jak kids to troll him. It's a bit of a cycle.
I think he's the weirdo that used to go on about how every poster he didn't like was a samefag back then. Often alludes to single man targetted harassment campaigns.
Agree or disagree, he still brings attention to kissu that kissu doesn't need, and he does it every single time old /qa/ gets brought up. Doesn't let that community forget this place.
No.137431
>>137429>As long as the emitter and receiver are on an equal, immutable standing, the purpose of anonymous communication is attained; The mechanics behind such communication are inconsequential. Users with static IP are not on equal standing with dynamic IP ban evaders. When getting banned has actual consequences of not being able to post on the site anymore you always censor youself and calculate risk while evaders are free to shit the site up, sometimes subtly enough not to get banned all the time and when it happens they can just resume their activities after a few minutes.
A system where you need to be verified manually and allowed to post from any IP range you want (basically, no such thing as IP bans) would be fair in that case.
No.137432
>>137431>A system where you need to be verified manually and allowed to post from any IP range you want (basically, no such thing as IP bans) would be fair in that case.Basically going back to old forums or bulletin boards, which in some of the most extreme cases had to resort to not allowing registering with free email adresses, invite only, or even account purchasing. Unfortunately that's a double edged sword more than ever.
I remember reading that the reason 4chan worked well enough in the early years was the combination of still being a niche pre-Eternal September community, and early users having a different mindset, but that probably is nostalgia googles effect.
No.137435
>>137333You're vry diplomatic, admirable.
No.137481
Multiple boards got hit by a soyjak raid, including trashcan, wapchan, and uboachan.
[URL DELETED] on the soy site(ZERO TOLERANCE TO PROMOTION OF WOJAK RAIDING)
No.137482
>>137481Coming to this thread to gloat and even including the raid thread...
Any promotions of the wojak sites attacking other imageboards here is going to be a ban. This is a thread to talk about imageboards and your attempts to wipe them out is extremely antithetical to this.
No.137483
>>137482That's fucking stupid. Raids are happenings.
No.137484
>>137483Attempts to maliciously and completely wipe out old subcultures from the internet is not the kind of happening this thread is for. You can have the victory threads on the wojak site, but they won't be referenced here.
People will never post about desuchan or 1chan in these threads again since they were killed by these raids. You might think it's hilarious to make the internet 99.1% wojaks instead of merely 99%, but I have to disagree.
No.137485
>>137484Stop having such a persecution complex.
No.137489
>>137488>Fine, you can mention places being raided if it's centered on the place being attackedIt'll do. It was specifically the zero-tolerance part that I was against.
No.137494
>>137490
>its the fact that kissu was founded as refugees from 4/qa/ during the soyniggerspam
That's not true. Kissu was made in 2018 and it was the power vacuum of the widespread rangebans of later 2019 that allowed the mods to usher in the new culture. There was no interaction between the groups. Our only ties are leftover jokes from us adopted by them, and I guess that we named them.
No.137499
>>137481It's good that every affected site seems to have had no lasting damage.
No.137501
I visited Uboachan maybe a decade ago and it felt depopulated even then. Why bother raiding it?
Raids were supposed to be something fun and inspiring. This just feels like wasted effort.
No.137502
>>137501Just like with desu, probably people that just hate anything old and who desire to destroy any traces of history to own the oldfags.
No.137503
>>137501The dumbest part is that every altchan that lasts more than a month or so already has to deal with CSAM and other automated spam so the soy children are barely a blip in comparison to most admins
No.137558
well that happened
ok so I get what the jaks were for but what were those posts with the random strings?
No.137559
>>137558faster spam i'd assume
No.137594
>>137490
This post seems to imply kissu isn't filled with lolicons.
No.137595
>>137594It doesn't. Kissu is filled to the brim with lolicon sperm.
No.137608
Why is wiping imageboards with raids even an issue these days? You'd think modern imageboard software would have ways to restore threads
No.137612
>>137608Because it was never included in vichan. Kissu has it but yeah. No one else thought about how to do it
No.137619
>>137608To be fair you don't even need that. Just set your board to have 100+ pages and it's basically impossible to wipe
No.137621
>>137619you say this but ota was still wiped
No.137685
You should let the raids get published because it will eventually Eternal September the perpetrators.
No.137686
>>137685I don't think you thought this post through.
No.137687
>>137685african american teenagers are the final september, there is no possible lower form of september.
No.137688
>>137686I don't think you thought this sage through.
No.137689
i just bit this sage through
No.137693
>>137685Dumb teenbro defender
No.137777
In other news, 4chan's mods added yet another captcha (hCaptcha) for first time users. Now the process for posting is: Cloudflare captcha > hCaptcha > 900s timer > 4chan captcha 4chan's captcha was updated as well, adding 3 and 7 characters-long captchas and captchas with characters rotated 90 degrees. These changes were made after multiple spammers with residential proxies made free ban-evasion websites and promoted them on /v/, /g/ and /pol/
Additionally, mods removed the "Intentionally evading post/spam filters" from the report list right after adding the new captcha. The motives are completely unknown.
No.137780
>>137777Mods wouldn't have any of that dev powers that control how the website functions, but that's interesting. I thought hcaptcha was one of the 'professional' ones they decided against using because it costs money?
No.137781
>>137780>Mods wouldn't have any of that dev powers that control how the website functions, but that's interesting.I'm using the word "mods" to group the entire staff together. The dev (and maybe rapapeape) is the one who implements all these changes, but it's the mods who come up with these ideas and suggest them to the dev.
>I thought hcaptcha was one of the 'professional' ones they decided against using because it costs money?Yes, that's why it and Cloudflare's captcha (which also has a paid version) only appear to new IPs and after solving it you only get 4chan's slider captchas that are easier to break with solvers.
No.137783
As usual, the normal user is the one that has to suffer because of the spammers.
Speaking of that, can someone confirm if Kissu uses Cloudflare? I'm trying to identify an access problem related to my ISP blocking CF IPs by mistake.
No.137785
>>137783NVM, found the problem. I'm going to need a VPN to access from now on.
No.137786
>>137777It's ironic that the harder they make it to spam, the more incentive people have to turn to spam automation tools, which actually make spam easier and allows them to spam much more efficiently than when they were just solving a captcha every minute. They're basically gambling on whether they've pissed off anyone smart enough to create said tools, and that's a pretty fucking bad bet when you're actively making the site worse with every iteration of this battle.
No.137800
>>136933>/r9k/ -> crystal.cafe>not /r9k/ -> wizardchan -> wizchanThis is not only erroneous, it is offensive.
No.137818
I checked the archive for /v/ to see how many spam threads were getting deleted, and the amount of pages I got was definitely smaller than before. Of course, that was mid week. It's going to be interesting to see what happens during the weekend.
No.137819
>>137800CC is very obviously spawned from /r9k/ by female users who didn't like having men around to tell them how deranged their behavior is.
No.137821
>>137819I'm moreso offended by the fact that this chart left out one of the more significant offshoots from /r9k/ and included the one filled with cackling she-beasts.
No.137822
>>137821>significant offshoots from /r9k/And what would that be?
No.137828
>>137777Those spammers have a nearly 10 year history of raiding the site and their antics have been more or less responsible for every change to the site backend since 2020.
That said, what exactly is a residential proxy?
No.137831
CC could possibly be considered closer to a /cgl/ spinoff in theme, but I'm not entirely sure of actual connections due to being far outside my interests. The lolcow place spun off from /cgl/ due to a mod crackdown on gossip and drama in what is now a long time ago in internet timescales, so it's possible it's a spinoff of a spinoff?
With how utterly obsessed teens are with that place I'm surprised there isn't a written history of everything that has ever happened there down to the minute.
>>137828>what exactly is a residential proxy?An IP tied to a residential IP handed out by an ISP instead of some major data center or VPN company or whatever. The former is far more valuable than the latter since it's not banned from everything.
No.137834
>>137831>CC could possibly be considered closer to a /cgl/ spinoff in themeI don't think it's eeither /r9k/ not /cgl/ really
CC crossed over /r9k/ due to trolling that somehow evolved into cross-cultural pollination. There really wasn't a migration on either direction. That IB started out as "4chan for ovular ones" without much ado and spent it's early years mostly dead as it grew out of word of mouth. It's reputation as /r9k/ for women didn't come till later but there's no denying part of the reason it grew was getting called that.
I'd argue the maidenless thread on /r9k/ is a CC colony as every regular knows of it, but I'm not really sure how it came to be.
There could be some /cgl/ crossposting due to shared ovules among posters, but definitely nothing about migrations or either board being culturally related. /cgl/ was always it's own beast.
No.137891
It's anecdotal but I was an old seagull and I can look at aspects of kf/lolcow and draw straight lines from shit /cgl/ did.
But if I look at CC I don't know what the fuck I'm even looking at.
No.137907
>>137891> at aspects of kf/lolcow and draw straight lines from shit /cgl/ did.Elaborate plx
No.137936
Trying to get people you don't like, or their friends, labeled a pedophile in real life was something /cgl/ did before it was popular. They were just a year or so behind SA on that one.
Or calling in a fake kidnapping so the cops swat someone at a convention thinking there's a hostage situation.
Or trying to spike a rival girl's drinks in the hope she'd get date raped acting like a sloppy drunk.
But really its how a few mean words said on the internet could somehow be blown up into something simply ludicrous.
No.137942
>>137936>They were just a year or so behind SA on that one. FYAD was pulling that shit off before 4chan even existed. Just way less frequently.
Of all the problem forums out there FYAD's the only one that made me genuinely uncomfortable. At least /b/ would dissent when they heard someone killed himself over trolling. When that wikipedia kid offed himself FYAD literally celebrated.
>Or trying to spike a rival girl's drinks in the hope she'd get date raped acting like a sloppy drunk. nigga what. How? No wait how is that even feasible? Americans don't exactly live close to each other. Was it some city's cosplay community that browsed cgl too much?
No.137943
>>137942Cosplayers will travel pretty far to go to cons and blog about their plans so you can track them. They also travel in groups and girls are known for secretly hating their friends.
No.137953
It was a mod deletion. People need to restrain their /r9k/ proclivity
No.137961
>>137358That is not why krautchan died... If you're implying that "pedophilia" caused it which is what im guessing you're implying then you would be wrong since that was a thing on the board long before unteralterbach existed.
No.137962
>>137359Kohlchan is still one of the biggest imageboards. Who gives a shit that its "ostracized". Its still a great imageboard. "ostracized" means a filter, which means that normalfags are dismayed which is a good thing.
No.137963
>>137409Yeah so epic being a massive faggot that pretty much caused the death of the webring for selfish gains.
No.137966
>>137961Your statement doesn't correlate with mine. In fact it reinforces it. Open pedophilia was a thing and by allowing it undisturbed it created a timebomb. German KC was always a fraction of KC/int/ and a community of IB dinosaurs by 2014. But it still was normal community. After unteralterbach made the place become famous for pedos it more or less swept away any poster that wasn't there to discuss MAP shit. We may act that the admin totally forgot to pay for the hosting, but the reality is he didn't want to nanny that group of undesirables. Or the dregs of /int/ for that matter, after ilylauta went social, every other host for the board just up died and 4/int/ aka blue /pol/ ate their demographics up. Why would he want to risk being known for that?
>>137962It's doing way better than KC did, somehow. Not the only nation-specific IB that i've seen pull 5k posts a day. But they are usually kohai websites
No.137967
>>137416Cute subculture is waning?
No, I don't believe it.
No.138022
I've been doing a lot of research lately.
If you ever wondered why in recent years some weird backend changes to Yotsuba happened, things like like user agent / trust based rate limiting, board speed/IP trust-dependent post discarding, browser id bans, the /biz/ timer going site-wide and hCAPTCHA. You can trace it to the impact of a single group of spammers.
Turns out sturdychan, formerly 2chen, formerly chen2, a meguca-based live posting IB, became home to /cumg/, an exiled 4/g/ general dedicated exclusively to developing tools for pornography scraping and generative AI. Most of it loli and CSAM. They got good at it. Developed a whole repository infrastructure and even rediscovered things like image embedding and metadata fetching (Third Eye, PEE, etc). If you ever saw that loli games stealth general on /v/, it's thanks to them.
You can find their hub on sturdychan.help/tech/ albeit the original developers seem to have been more or less ran out of the general.
You can see their repositories at sperm.tech.
At the same time, there's two 4chan botspam dinosaurs to remember:
First is Leto aka unicodefag also called furnigger by 4/trash/'s /gfur/. A furry CSAM spammer remembered for spamming /bant/ with ridiculous numbers of IPs. kissumin may remember him, he also spammed /qa/.
Second is an italian homosexual known as 'ick on 'eck, famous for posting pictures of his dick and his steamdeck on /v/ for years
They are friends. They have coordinated spam since the 2010s and a few years ago both got involved with /cumg/'s infrastructure. I'm still looking things up so I don't know if they bankroll the svs now or what.
What's important is that around late 2022 'eck developed what can be best described as a open source proxy handler service known as 'ecker. His version, p.ecker.tech is closed to public unless you personally send ecker a pic of your dick.
Leto instead bankrolls fecker, a free use fork of 'ecker. currently hosted at 4chan.gay, formerly cunny.sperm.tech
These services have been going on for little more than 2 years. But it recently reached a sort critical mass. From the get go it enabled schizos to go wild, specially on /vg/, shouldn't surprise anyone it was the second board for the timer experiment. Now if you check the archives since 2024 you'll see a palpable uptick in CSAM spam and what not.
In short, years there's been what I can only describe as a secret arms race between MVB's spam protection and Leto's ban evasion tool. And Leto is winning, the recent restrictions have all but killed casual/mobile phoneposters, 4chan's has been measurable affected by this group.
As an aside. MVB is imo a legit programmer, with all I've learned recently, I can't help but admire the man.
No.138030
>>137942One day I will have to cough up those 10 bux for the SA archives upgrade and see how early FYAD and ADTRW were like.
Are we talking about the ipod "an hero thing"? Nowadays the only acceptable target for suicide jokes tends to be Lowtax, and with reason.
No.138031
>>138030A wikipedia admin, early 2000s don't remember his name. pretty sure he's the first case for suicide over internet bullying ever. Contemporary with the ipod kid.
No.138032
>>138031Found it. Ty Peppar, 2008. And looks like it is still a controversial topic that will cause fights
No.138033
>>138022This goes along with the stuff I've read now and then. I remember that chen site was supposed to be like 8chan and have a variety of boards, but in reality it was the politics and uh..
this stuff that actually took off. Some /tv/ overlap, naturally. Nothing good will come from those communities mixing.
The main unifying theme is they're massive attention whores that desire infamy above all else, so I'm against using their names. It's been a general internet strategy to not give attention whores what they want, so I'd call them Fat Retard A and Furfag B or something.
>As an aside. MVB is imo a legit programmer, with all I've learned recently, I can't help but admire the man.I'm not sure if it's MVB, but he does seem to be "blamed" for tackling it. It could be desuwa, or a combination. MVB is pretty amazing though from what I've seen, yeah, an OG from before programming was trendy. He posted on 4/qa/ a few times and you get the feeling his knowledge far eclipses your own.
No.138034
>>138033>The main unifying theme is they're massive attention whores that desire infamy above all elseWisdom. However, this is only applicable when dealing with the men themselves. They run a service with a 3 digit user count now. It's gone beyond just a couple narcissists.
What fascinates me is that this has been going on for a dog's age (on the internet scale) and nobody has yet figured it out. It's not like the people involved are trying to hide, yet they've somehow maintained a veil of total confusion for years.
>2chenMy impression is this: 2chen was used to house eceleb and tiktok threads when they got purged. Practically dead by the time cumg got the boot (2021). As soon as the admin noticed new newcomers, he killed the site. /cumg/ simply cloned it.
That's what I garnered, I
could be wrong.
No.138035
>>138022>If you ever saw that loli games stealth general on /v/, it's thanks to them. what's this? i love loli games
No.138036
>>138035Started out as onirism threads then they started adding other games with overtly lewd kid characters. Just F5 a couple times, you'll see them around.
Miffles me a bit that they include A Hat in Time because that's a legitimately innocent PG game that doesn't deserve getting lumped with all the lolicon stuff.
Obligatory warning: read the rest of the post, some of these posters aren't what they pretend to be.
No.138037
>>138036oh those threads yeah guess that fits the bill. i found them when searching the archives for threads about little witch nobeta and discovered demon turf and gurumin and onirism that way
No.138038
>>138036>that doesn't deserve getting lumped with all the lolicon stuff.but that's an honour
No.138039
>>138036Like this? There are a couple crossover drawings that were posted and visibly a bunch of backstory to them:
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/703524809>>138037>guruminDamn that's niche. Surprised to see it's been ported to PC.
No.138040
>>138039Yep. Seems like the OP was legit then it got hijacked 2hu style.
No.138041
>>138034>they've somehow maintained a veil of total confusion for yearsNo? Third-eye became a minor trend a bit after it was made, kind of working off the residual resentment for mods cracking down on blue board lewdity during the 4channel period where Hiro was trying to make ad dollars instead of pass dollars. Then mods Streisanded it by banning /cumg/, which started this war between programmers and making the whole affair a source of drama people could easily follow. People have been bringing up the 'ecker site on /v/ for years whenever spam gets brought up, mostly in a negative light because of his gay as fuck requirements to join his club.
I don't think /tiktok/ was dead, it certainly hasn't been since, but /cumg/ was the source of meaningful activity for a while until development slowed and the gay circlejerk took over.
Really, the lesson of it all should be that trying to use technological means to solve community problems just incites greater resentment. You can't fight ideas with bullets.
No.138044
>>138041>No? Let me elaborate: Nobody has really made the connection between bird eye and "/cumg/ runs a ban evasion guerrilla from an altchan", at least not if you didn't specifically look for threads linked to sturdy. It's not common knowledge unless you are intimately involved, it's not something a 4chan regular imagines happening, much less a casual posters. Their first instinct would be to think "this is a conspiracy fiction".
If you go talk about the spam on any board that isn't /g/ or specific /v/ threads, people won't believe you. I could go to my favourite threads right now and if brought up "there's a psycopath running ban evasion tools that represent a majority of the shitposts you see in this board today" i'd get called a schizo.
>for mods cracking down on blue board lewdityYou mean on /v/, because /co/ and /a/ have never stopped having lewd threads. /co/ would straight up die if that was ever cracked down on, they represent like half the active posts at any given time.
> ad dollars instead of pass dollars.I'm pretty sure 4chan is solvable due to selling post data to analytics centers and neither ads nor the pass represent a 2 digit percentage of the site's income.
No.138045
>>138035Pay attention to threads featuring loli characters from Onirism, A Hat in Time, Stardew Valley, Little Witch Nobeta, Froggun, Demon Turf, Gurumin, Ashley from Wario Ware or any relatively new indie game with loli protagonists. These threads almost always are made by a group of ban evaders that use them as chatrooms where they avatarfag, roleplay and occasionally draw art of the characters. They are like rats that try to make a nest on any thread involving these lolis regardless of the original topic. They are the reason even legitimate threads about these games are deleted at random by mods.
There's another group that uses "vidya lolis" as a cover for their personal purposes. They often make threads with "realistic lolis" like Sarah from TLoU or the girl from Pragmata, and use them to talk about pedophilia, real children and CP, share 3DCG porn of these lolis and even post actual CP in .webm files and catbox links. This second group sometimes hijacks threads about unrealistic loli characters to talk about "their love for children" and lure CP posters to the stolen thread.
No.138046
>>138045The 2D-only-lolicon vs. pedo dichotomy is just as retarded as saying "I'm not gay, I only fap to anime-style drawings of men". Lolicons who are only attracted to 2D lolis may exist but they're rare.
No.138047
People should be able to talk about games with girls in them without it being inundated with slacktivist garbage from people that really should find something else to base their personality around. Those people are a blight and it's really a "this is why we can't have nice things" phenomenon. Funnily enough my last ever post on 4/qa/ was me saying they were cancer.
I guess it allows places like kissu to dig out a niche if people want to actually talk about enjoying things.
>>138046This is the kind of post that kills threads and imageboards as it starts an all-out retard war. Don't use the happenings thread for this...
No.138048
>>138046I'd call that reductive, when it comes to 2D lolicon is just a subset of the greater "loli" aesthetics fandom, and group that is definitely not small. The dumb teenage girl from deviant art that absolutely loves her vaguely 10-to-16 cute emo girl anime drawings, or the /c/ or /cm/ community as a whole all routine post lolicon-like art without really consider it or themselves such. How many people love mossacannibalis' risque art of teenagers without knowing about the loliguro? I wouldn't even call mossa a lolicon even thought the fact he regularly mutilates tweens on digital paper.
All these groups mingle together, on imageboards specially. A person who waifus the shit of some waif tween from a popular series has no problem hanging out with Rustle's N°. 1 fan on an IB. Your idea that only lolicons post loli doesn't make sense to me.
I do agree that separating Rustle's N°. 1 fan from an actual CSAM consumer is moot, but even then, there's a difference between someone who has a casual sexual fantasy and an actual MAP activist trying to create a community that openly states that people should try to groom children.
No.138050
>>138048>and an actual MAP activist trying to create a community that openly states that people should try to groom children.Which I may add does not actually represent all of the ban evasion tool users. There's multiple cliques mingling there and they have some low energy competition going on. The tool's mantainer very clearly favours illegal posts however, and he gets bullied quite a bit for it.
I don't know what to make of it. I've joked about day of the roping phoneposters for years, but now that these guys actually forced 4chan into such a position, something just doesn't sit well with me. The people who are getting fucked by the timer and hCAPTCHA now are genuinely the most sincere contributors, not terminally online shitposters.
No.138051
the heck am I about to read... this better be on topic
No.138052
>>138048>the greater "loli" aesthetics fandom, and group that is definitely not small. The dumb teenage girl from deviant art that absolutely loves her vaguely 10-to-16 cute emo girl anime drawings, or the /c/ or /cm/ community as a whole all routine post lolicon-like art without really consider it or themselves suchI was talking about lolicons, not chuunis that just discovered azumanga and lucky star last week.
>All these groups mingle together, on imageboards speciallyThat "mingling" usually goes something like:
>EWW WTF you do realize that anime girl is 12 right???>out of tenand then the chuuni leaves and never goes back to a board like /a/ or /v/.
>Your idea that only lolicons post loli doesn't make sense to meOn boards that aren't infested with normalfags, only lolicons post loli. On boards I never go to like /cm/, /cgl/, /mlp/ etc. things may be different.
No.138054
>>138053Tell the anti-lolicon faggots to leave too.
No.138055
Back on topic it is.
Predictions on how this 4chan secret war will turn out?
No.138056
I recall one time a furfag brought 8chan to its knees with automated spam on every board. I think the furfag's name was Bui. Does he have any connection to this group?
No.138057
cumg insider here
jeety and leto will eventually burn out since they aren't doing this for money, and pecker is too exclusive for public use
same thing happened to pee
4chan will win by virtue of outlasting its competition
No.138059
>>138056He fucking wishes he was Bui. But he has become his spiritual successor, if Bui had BPD.
afaik the furfag started out as a scriptspammer on /bant/ and /trash/, mainstay at /gfur/. According to trash lore he has ran a bumpbot and pulled insane stunts to fuck with that board. That would have been the end it had he and the italian not gotten into generative AI and by extension, the cumg dev network.
>>138058Because we are all IB otakus that suffer from withdrawal if we don't read "post successful" every couple days.
There's a lot of honest posters, specially on the hobby boards, that contribute one or twice a month. Enough time for their phone cookies to expire, and on top of that they likely post on mobile IPs and not stable wi fi due to commuting or work. Imagine having to go through the whole timer+captcha+IPtrust process every time to you want to post.
I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. An almost 20% activity loss since the timer went global. Don't know how much h(ell)CAPTCHA is gonna add to that.
No.138060
((((((they)))))) will never know
No.138061
>>138059>Imagine having to go through the whole timer+captcha+IPtrust process every time to you want to post.i do all the time because, how often is there a 4chan thread i want to post in?
No.138062
>>138059>I mean, the numbers speak for themselves. An almost 20% activity loss since the timer went global. Don't know how much h(ell)CAPTCHA is gonna add to that.stop flipflopping, phoneposters don't do effort posts because you're not incentivized to write paragraphs with a touchscreen
the exclusion of phoneposters is good and the vast majority of those 20% are not posters who post "once or twice a month", that doesn't even make sense
they're normalfags
No.138064
phonelurking is acceptable if an IB otaku must ever suffer the indignity of going outside or an internetdisconnection
No.138065
>>138058I think it's related to cookies. You'd probably get the others if you deleted them and started anew.
No.138066
>>138064Fucking your sister is fine when you're the only two people left on Earth.
>>138065Not "probably", definitely.
I just downloaded my cookies, this is how it looks like,
.4chan.org TRUE / FALSE 177005[...] ws_style Tomorrow
.4chan.org TRUE / FALSE 177093[...] nws_style Tomorrow
.4chan.org TRUE / TRUE 177166[...] 4chan_pass A_-HPzSkGUC3PpblwPUISK
vF[...]
.4chan.org TRUE / TRUE 177118[...] cf_clearance A8wc1oN7e8DTy5uBIMJO5L
v3ZDwUrBF[...]
ws_style and nws_style, e.g. Yotsuba B
cf_clearance refers to cloudflare, also self-explanatory.
4chan_pass doesn't actually refer to commercial 4chan passes. 4chan_pass is part of a reputation system stored on the user's end as a hash, which the server compares to figure out many things like whether to give you a cooldown, what kind of captcha to use, how many posts you are allowed to quote, etc.
This helps mitigate spamming somewhat, since spamming involves rapidly cycling through many IPs.
No.138067
its always fine
No.138069
>>138055Thankfully, right now I am detached enough from 4c to not be affected by it. Between the sharty raids, the ecker software users, the lolicon porn spammed in blue boards, /v/ going full gamergate again, and janitors being ineffective at acting fast, I gave up on the site and went looking for greener pastures (alternative IBs and classic forumd)
Nowadays I check the place mostly due to FOMO, so that the day the countermeasures fail and a torrent of diarrhea shit swallows the boards I will be there with an umbrella and a bucket of popcorn.
And even if the countermeasures hold, isn't Hiro going to trial soon over the Buffalo shooting? That's going to drain whatever amount of money they are sitting on right noe.
No.138070
>>138044People call you a schizo because you fearmonger about a pedophile conspiracy being behind everyone who posts loli, not because you mention that a notorious spammer has a tool for enabling spam.
>>1380554chan already lost when they started using tactics that discouraged good posters from posting. The spam could stop today and it would still be a Pyrrhic victory because reducing the amount of shit you have to wade through to find a diamond in the rough is meaningless if all the diamonds are gone too.
No.138074
>>138070People call me a schizo for something I didn't even criticize in the argument?
I'd say you are hyperfixating a minor sentence of my reply chain, on a I point I didn't even rise until asked for directions by anons who wanted to find those threads.
No.138098
>>138057>will burn outwhy tho
No.138099
>>138059tourist here, what's an IB otaku?
No.138100
>Nowadays I check the place mostly due to FOMO, so that the day the countermeasures fail and a torrent of diarrhea shit swallows the boards I will be there with an umbrella and a bucket of popcorn.
Respect
>isn't Hiro going to trial soon over the Buffalo shooting
God I hope so that faggot is such a midwitted narcissist. He deserves at least mild suffering. (Please don't make my karma all fucked up for saying that, God...)
No.138102
>>138099IB presumably means imageboard. He really just means someone addicted to imageboards in a way people are addicted to tiktok or whatever.
No.138103
>>138022The furry being one of the people supporting a spam network over 4chan doesn't really surprise me, since he was kind of setting up that sort of service all the way back when we were still on /qa/. Think he even came here once or twice asking if we wanted help with spamming 4chan back for kicking us off through his proxy service, or service he was paying for, always assumed the proxies were something he bought and didn't procure himself, but maybe not.
No.138106
>>138102It means enjoying anonymous posting for anonymous posting's sake. I assume we all here are since the role of kissu could have been fulfilled perfectly with a chatroom yet we all choose to use an IB instead. Guess I am mistaken?
>otaku means addictMmph.
>>138103I remember that spam, did you really give him the bumpbot script or that was a lie?
No.138107
>>138103Yeah.
He was under the mistaken impression that the repo option here was an automated process instead of a request for someone to make a thread on 4/qa/ if they were at the 3 thread IP limit. (down from 5, one of the /qa/ penalties)
I guess in hindsight it set things in motion for someone to make it for real? Too bad it's being used for bad stuff instead of funposting. I guess it's just our fate to have our stuff twisted by someone else later on.
>>138106>otaku means addict>Mmph.Well, it's generally someone with an obsessive interest and not just someone spending a bunch of time on something. Otaku implies they're interested with imageboard history, how they function, what they're like in other parts of the world and will constantly seek out new information about them and so on. Someone doing the equivalent of tiktok's infinite scroll on 4chan doesn't automatically fit the label if you ask me, so I'd call them an addict instead.
>did you really give him the bumpbot script or that was a lie?His stuff was quite a bit inferior to
the bumpbot. He did it a few times while we were still there and it would be counterproductive to help some guy spam the board you like with furry stuff, so I'm pretty confident no /qa/ person gave him anything.
No.138108
>>138106Anonymity and I don't like IM for talking to multiple people.
No.138110
>>138107>Otaku implies they're interested with imageboard history, how they function, what they're like in other parts of the world and will constantly seek out new information about them and so on.>Someone doing the equivalent of tiktok's infinite scroll on 4chan doesn't automatically fit the label if you ask me, so I'd call them an addict instead.... I wrote a 3000 character post about the history of an obscure spam network squatting on a dead general that's sitting on the pilfered corpse of a dead IB.
And you call me an addict.
No.138111
>>138110I wasn't referring to you specifically, but people in general since the conversation was focused on people spending lots of time on 4chan. Lots of lots of people spend tons of time on it, you know.
No.138112
>>138102Thanks.
>>138106they should make a software that has both a chatroom and an image board.
No.138113
how is kissu compared to 4chan?
i've been using wapchan a bit lately.
sorry if you're not allowed to mention other altchans.
No.138114
>>138112>they should make a software that has both a chatroom and an image board.The hybrid already exists, usually called "live" boards. You can see what people are typing in their post and you can see people replying to posts below theirs if there are multiple people active at once.
The meguca spinoff/inheritors is probably the most well known example (
https://shamik.ooo , you need to enter a thread to see the live posting), but there's also doushio and tea and probably others.
>>138113Didn't you already ask this on /b/? (
>>>/b/13096)
Thankfully I already have an answer!
>>>/b/13098 No.138115
>>138107>His stuff was quite a bit inferior to the bumpbot. As an aside, if the random posts on old /gfur/ threads are true, he also wrote his own bumpbot for /trash/. Guess we were an inspiration after all.
On top of pulling stunts like posting 200 markovbot erp posts to scare off some deerposting twink that was getting more (you)s than him
No.138116
>>138114I meant a hybrid where you have a group of people like in discord but in discord you then have an image board
>>138114oh yeah i did ask, are you the person who answered? i forgot i made that thread
No.138117
>>138114?? shamik redirects to gaia online
No.138118
>>138107>He was under the mistaken impression that the repo option here was an automated process instead of a request for someone to make a thread on 4/qa/ if they were at the 3 thread IP limit. (down from 5, one of the /qa/ penalties)woah, repo actually means something i didnt know that
No.138119
>>138116>I meant a hybrid where you have a group of people like in discord but in discord you then have an image boardNo idea. Discord itself already functions remarkably like an imageboard and that's why it's so good at killing them. Someone even made a 4chan skin for it. Pic related. (I just google'd 4chan discord skin)
>>138117Huh, maybe you need to type it in then? Worked fine for me. I wonder if that's for any link at all because it seems strange for kissu to be singled out.
>>138118Repost, yeah.
No.138120
>>138119Why did you show me this.
I think I'm going to cry.
No.138122
>>136078she is cute and strong.
No.138124
>>138119yeah i typed it in and it worked. interesting
didn't know about betterdiscord, looks interesting.
No.138126
>>138119but also, an imageboard that is anonymous and has a catalog view is like, the main point
No.138144
Endchan has been unusable for over a month now due to a poop picture spammer.
No.138145
>poop
im wondering has kissu ever taken the brownpill
No.138146
pooping myself
No.138149
>>138145I've seen enough of the /intl/ sphere to know that copypasta-video combination.
No.138154
File:cm.jpg (1.14 MB,2480x1835)
>>138048>the /c/ or /cm/ community as a whole all routine post lolicon-like art without really consider it or themselves suchMaybe that's how /c/ operates, but /cm/ is shotacon central. There are around 10 threads specifically for people lusting over shotas, 3 more for kemono shota, 2 for trap shotas, and a bunch of other threads for various IPs that are at least 50% shota posts. Even the pinned thread features a catshota 9S.
No.138158
>>138156thingkin bout poster would've had a word with you for this
No.138161
>>138157Shotas belong to kissu ikemen, but only the girly ones.
No.138163
>>138162So one I day asked
¥ Who the fuck are you quotingAnd everyone got upset.
No.138171
>>138170What kuso imageboard is that?
No.138172
quick hide the shota
No.138173
Yeah, you're being a bit paranoid. There's no issue if people are getting along. What people do on other sites is their business.
No.138175
>>138173More worried about the regular that first posted it doing it to spite the site.
No.138176
>>138175is there even any evidence that it was a regular?
lots of people come and go through the happenings thread
No.138178
>>138176Really? What are the chances? We can go days without posts and there's a few hours between sturdy being mentioned and kissu being linked.
No.138180
>>138178i'd rarely ever heard of sturdychan before it was brought into this thread by
>>138022who i assume is you, as they merely made a couple comments on their own place without even coming to post here and nobody would even be able to tell if they weren't keeping an eye on them already
just let it go and don't implant dramatic paranoia into /qa/
No.138182
People from there are welcome to post here just like anyone else, so I don't understand the issue. Could there be arguments or disagreements? Sure, but that's the nature of, uh, the human spirit or something.
No.138183
>>138179But that was long ago, I doubt those people remember Kissu still exists.
No.138186
We can always extend the courtesy of hospitality. But even wojak kids post there, and a couple freaks of their own making. I didn't imagine anyone other here than me knew of the place much less felt more attached to it than to Kissu as there's no way they wouldn't know what could happen when they link it.
I wanted to bring something I though was, well, cool. The idea of internet wars is my weak spot. But if it comes with a pricetag I'll not mention it again.
No.138188
>>138187I wanted to say the same but it got deleted (twice) before I could read it (probably not worth it)
No.138189
>>138186You're fine, it's just we're worried about starting internet battles when it can be avoided.
No.138190
>>138187Don't tease me with my shame.
No.138290
>>138286a bit sad to read, in an uneventful way, like listening to old people who outlived their success and are now alone and sick
No.138291
>>138290My favorite part is the obviously new person being insecure about it and yelling at everyone else whose just trying to have a good time.
No.138296
>>138286I've been paying more attention to the CDS thread
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/48973525, almost hit 1k posts as of now which is rare outside the vtuber general. From the sounds of it, toshiakis are also having a field day with the chapter.
No.138345
the captchas on 4chan have become increasingly schizophrenic looking. Now there's text overlayed all the melted AI animals.
No.138347
buy passu
No.138348
>>138347Funny how that used to be the pitch. I don't think a passu even lets you bypassu hCaptcha anymore.
No.138352
>>138349It's a pretty clever way to desensitize humans before the coming Singularity.
No.138365
>>138364Where did she go?
No.138367
>>138365To places unknown, until now.
No.138379
>>138378is it a nothingburger?
Does nothing truly happen?
No.138575
>>138145>brownpill spam happened 10 years ago.another one that's hard to swallow
No.138576
4chan is dead again
No.138577
lets hope it's permanent
No.138578
mods got sick of jd vance edit spam and decide to boot the site offline
No.138579
>>138578but those were actually funny why would they do that
No.138584
>>138579Why would 4chan mods do something that actively harms their website and their userbase? I've been asking that question for a long time.
No.138614
Another day, another fag assblasted at Yotsuba.
No.138615
>>138590you know at least i respect that he's owning up to it
No.138657
>>138579Because they were offended by them.
No.138695
>>138590with this mindset, it's no wonder 4chan hands out 3-day bans over the smallest technicalities
No.138727
>>138590there are people taking this at face value
No.138797
>>138796>Grimms Notes (グリムノーツ, Gurimu Nōtsu) was an online free-to-play role-playing gameStatistically it was going to be a vtuber or gacha girl so I guess I can't be too disappointed that the dice roll favored it.
No.138800
>>138796at least it's a cute picture
No.138802
PEE, the userscript that allowed users to hide text and catbox links in images and made 4chan's staff to implement a bunch of measures (like using Cloudflare to strip metadata from all files) to stop it after a bunch of niggers began to share CP on /v/ and /g/, is working again "thanks" to Leto, the gay furfag that hosts a free proxy site for serial ban evaders. As expected, pedos from sturdychan have been using it to exchange CP on /v/ "safe" images with embedded catbox links.
This new version has obfuscate code to hide how it works from mods and mechanisms to hide the original catbox links to prevent catmin from deleting content, and is available in Leto's website after meeting certain requirements. AFAIK, 4chan's staff don't know about this new version of PEE or how to stop it.
No.138804
>>138803Sturdychan is a mixture of /tv/g/ pedos, /v/ spammers, /qa/ teens, and miscellaneous attention whores from /trash/ and Discord. Only drama and child porn matters to them, and making things worse for everyone at 4chan and associated sites (like catbox and 3rd party archives) is one of their favorite hobbies.
No.138805
>>138804Well, I guess I just sorta hoped that for someone that's been causing chaos since 2017 like Leto, his scope would've expanded by now. There's so much better ways to potentially cause chaos with tech like that. Ways that'd probably actually be helpful towards forwarding internet anarchism rather than helping internet corporatism. Like imagine if a mass amount of people or public figures were implicated. The nature of the law would have no choice but to change.
No.138806
>>138803but 4chan is just as bad as reddit or twitter at this point and its death would bring life to alt-chans (after about 98% of refugees are b& of course)
No.138807
>>138802From what I understand, the method relies on an external server that creates a correlation between images and catbox links. The catbox links in question have a header that prevents them from being viewed normally. If you remove the header at the start of the file, the media is visible. I don't recommend doing this, since they are actually posting pizza.
I think catmin should take measures to stop uploads of these files with extra header data prepended.
No.138808
>>138806I'm gonna say something unpopular here, but 4chan is in no way as bad as reddit or twitter. In fact, in the current system it's probably a net positive as probably one of the only big alternatives to corporate social media. It serves as an introductory point to the rest of the web (like altchans) through its more archaic format and Anonymous nature. And its only through its history and name recognition that it can do this. If not for it, the rest of us would probably be on a track for extinction as the well of new eyes on non-mainstream sites would dry up even more than it has now.
The only way that 4chan actually becomes a negative whose death would bring about a true boon for altchans, is if you kill off reddit and twitter first. As long as those major pegs of the corporate web still exist, the internet will never get better and killing 4chan would just put more people on there instead of elsewhere.
No.138809
>>138806Maybe, but Catbox doesn't deserve to pay for the niggery of other people.
No.138812
Deleted my other post, please discard.
>>138808I think most people here prefer 4chan over reddit and twitter, if nothing else for the format and anonymity. There are still niches there that can't be found on other imageboards just due to the sheer number of people allowing those people to meet.
No.138846
>>138802Furfag has crossed all thresholds. I don't know what his plan is, by now, his entire operation can be judicially described as a CSAM distribution / service racket.
Just these 2 months he had:
* Monetary exchanges for "gold" accounts
* Linked his service to CSAM distribution facilitation via PEE
* Hosted pedo boards on 4chan.gay
* Recorded his actual, unmodified voice.
* Has engaged the MAPfags positively and made constant mockery of CSAM posts, somehow convinced sturdychan is untraceable site for such behaviour
His accent is 100% Suburban american. I can't even imagine how he plans to dodge the inevitable FBI investigation. Either he runs a bloody ISP infrastructure all by himself, lives innawoods in the middle of africa, or his narcissism has finally turned him self-destructive.
>>138805Lulzsec tried real internet anarchism and they all got arrested within months. And those guys were the real deal, not trust fund script kiddies who learned some server side code.
No.138853
>>138805>implicatedNo matter how many times internet activists try to conflate the two, most people understand that drawings and CP are different things and drawings are what people have used the tool to share since it's still the clearweb and the users aren't that stupid. It's a tool for enabling /trash/-tier roleplay porn generals on SFW boards and it uses 4chan because that's the site the participants were already on. It's not an attack on the net, it's a circlejerk with a personal grudge from mods trying to break them up (in the most retarded way possible).
No.138854
>>138853Oh, the way anon was talking it sounded like they were using it to share 3dcp or something.
No.138855
>>138853Is this true? What is all the drama about then? If they are just loli drawings and roleplay I'm gonna go from wow these creeps are insane can't they just share their material somewhere else to who cares lmao.
*kabedons you*
No.138856
>>138854>Oh, the way anon was talking it sounded like they were using it to share 3dcp or something.They are.
I suppose you are gonna demand proof next, but I don't think kissumin would let me post that kind of screenshots.
Leto is known in that circlejerk for botspamming gay pizza when he gets assblasted.
No.138858
>>138855People freaking out about steganography on 4chan have a long history of exaggerating or sometimes just plain making up the prevalence of CP, so it's best to take those sort of claims with a grain of salt. As for the PEE stuff, the last time I looked at what people were posting with it their taste in porn was shit but I didn't see any CP. It wouldn't surprise me if someone has posted CP with it, of course.
>>138856Post a copy of the userscript.
No.138859
>>138858Ah fuck it.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/[link-deleted]
That proof enough for you?
(yeah) No.138860
>>138859I'm not clicking that.
No.138861
>>138857Like the other anon said, gay is a service that's used by a baker's dozen cliques all getting trolled/scammed by leto's personal ds friends.
There's lolifags. Who get called out by the schizos for being "ironic pedophiles". There's soyjak teens crying for much freeze peach and there's another, entirely separate group of soyjak teens assblasted there's pedophiles in their shitposting app. There's whatever's left of /cumg/ still holdin' onto to that general despite the fact Leto ran every other coder out.
>>138860If you believe that can affect you personally I have a 4chan gold to sell you.
No.138863
>>138859clicked b4 edit
you can find a previous thread with view same, where at times they're discussing things that very obviously aren't the attached pic (705249684 and its chain) and lots of screenshots from elsewhere and drama
pretty gay
No.138864
>>138855The drama is because people hear "encrypted files in images" and get paranoid and start listening to the trolls going "DON'T SAVE ANY IMAGES IN THIS THREAD THEY HAVE CP IN THEM". You know, the same kind of people who unironically think being in a thread where CP is posted will get them v&. And that situation gets jumped on by people who despise lolicons and want them all run off the site.
I used it for the whole initial run and never saw anything of the sort despite there be accusations of such whenever the script was brought up. I wouldn't be surprised if someone did it somewhere, but at the very least it was less prevalent with the script than on normal 4chan, which makes since when the whole point of posting it is getting attention and generating shock. Anyone trying to build an actual sharing network is going to use TOR or an e2e encrypted service, not try to piggyback a site known to hand your info straight to the feds. Even gay furry shitposters aren't that stupid.
No.138865
>>138864>Not try to piggyback a site known to hand your info straight to the feds. Even gay furry shitposters aren't that stupid.Leto is actually, honest to god deranged. He never got caught because until recently because he was just a run off the mill proxyfag.
To give you an idea of the extent of this guy's obsession with infamy: He was raiding the 4hap thread for months pretending to be 3 different spammers: One posting mvb's dox, another posting links to gay, and another running a chatgpt bot based on posts from a local avatarfag. When someone finally namedropped him he proceeded to spam CP for weeks.
Side note: right as we speak, sturdy's admin announced he's killing the /tech/ board.
No.138867
>>138861>Who get called out by the schizos for being "ironic pedophiles"I knew when I first heard the "ironic lolicon" term that it was trying and failing to mirror the "ironic weeb" term and that it should have been "ironic pedophile". Good on the schizos for finally getting their act together and fixing their term.
No.138868
>>138867>ironic pedophileThe only person I've seen use that term was on /g/ and he wouldn't stop talking about how he was the best pedophile and would list names of former "child porn stars" and how cool he was for knowing all of them and how only he was a real pedophile and everyone else were posers for posting cute anime girls. Like some kind of pedophile oldfag. Utterly insufferable.
No.140922
saw it
No.140923
good
No.140925
saged it
No.140928
>>138865>right as we speak, sturdy's admin announced he's killing the /tech/ board.why?
No.140929
>>140928It seems that not even other pedos (sturdy was made to host tiktokfags that were banned from /wsg/ for having generals about lusting over underage "tiktokers") want to deal with Leto and /tech/ AKA /cumg/'s destructive and actually illegal pedofaggotry and drama.
Or maybe the admin is from Texas since other boards that had loli porn will be deleted as well, who knows.
No.140930
>>138802I installed the userscript in question and took a look at what people were posting. There were a few images with hidden links on /v/, no CP, just cartoon/hentai porn, with gay and furry tendencies. I did find one video on another board featuring clothed real children which would appeal to pedophiles. So there are definitely pedophiles using this extension, but it seemed to me they are a minority.
No.140931
>>140928iunno, but pic is the announcement as it was recorded by someone in the tiktok general so at least it's a real thing
i don't like going to someone else's site and reading through it to figure out foreign drama....
No.140933
>>140931¥ duran duran invisiblealright, that got a laugh out of me
No.140937
Crushing /cumg/ over one guy's stenography program basically made everything worse long term.
I get why team4chan freaks out over stenography but in their typical fashion their crackdowns end up doing so much collateral damage they basically distill communities into weaponized shitposting holdouts, after the regular users/dev/creators just throw in the towel when they aren't welcome.
No.140938
>>140929All the shit in /tok/ is about girls who are mid-teens at youngest. It's not pedo in the slightest.
I don't think this is about loli since /3d/ is getting deleted and it obviously doesn't have any loli. That was the whole point of splitting /d/ up and there was no attempt to stifle loli on /2d/ then.
>>140937Yeah, it's kinda crazy things have gone this far when all they had to do was have the jannies install the extension and subject the embeds to the same rules as normal images.
No.140939
>>140937It's interesting to think of the potential "corrupted" images that passerby may just see at face value and now have saved and repropogated, unwise to it all.
No.140941
>>140930>So there are definitely pedophiles using this extension, but it seemed to me they are a minority.Less using and more "running". Leto's site, that enables PEE browsing, has a 3D friendly /l/ board. For the same kind of poster that
>>138868 describes.
>>140937/cumg/'s collapse was inevitable, as was people using it to break GR1.
It's just how free services work. If people can abuse it, they will. Specially when it comes to porn communities, it just attracts people with low IQ who are both entitled and can't comprehend consequences.
Compare leto to 'ecker, who has been running exactly the same thing for the same period of time but he has 0 problems because his service is invite-only.
No.140945
>>140937>they basically distill communities into weaponized shitposting holdoutsIt was going to happen with or without /cumg/. If it wasn't that general it would have been another of the /g/ AI ones that got visited by 'ecker and aggressively taken over by his furfag friend.
Anon in the previous conv said it best: Furfag has been dreaming of running something like this for some time.
No.140946
There's some discussion in the kissu back channels about word filtering people's nicknames. since we're against glazing antisocial people and being a place for insiders to share their street cred. So keep it bland and factual if you're going to be dropping people's names.
We did this with a person a year ago who was using IPs to personally promote himself. I haven't noticed such a thing yet. But it is a concern amoung staff.
No.140948
>>140946>since we're against [...] being a place for insiders to share their street credHaving read this thread for the better part of a year, you'd have me fooled.
I was paying attention, just that others where using names and I went with the flow without noticing
By the way, is this truly ephemeral or there's archives for the oldest posts?
No.140949
>>140948oh nevermind i didn't see the dropdown
No.140957
sigh...
No.140975
>>137294Now im permanently banned because barneyfag. Well it doesnt matter either way since i almost never post on cutiechan in the first place.
No.140977
>>140976
saw
No.140978
>>140977I thought the ban was lifted but it just didnt show until i did email verification
No.140979
>>140975Like I said last time, you obviously got assigned a new IP.
No.141080
sorry, this is not a happening. I'd post this in /blogs/ but I've received a few warnings and even been timed-out for talking about 4chan stuff like this over there.
lately, I've been getting this weird "timer or email" message when I try to phonepost. the timer is 900 seconds long and the alternative is giving them my email address. the timer resets to 900 seconds if I close the posting box and even if I wait the 900 seconds: I get the timer again after making a single post. anyone know what this is about? I'm not ban-evading and I haven't gotten any warnings. genuinely confused here.
No.141081
I'd figure it's a broken feature. Something about your mobile browser doesn't work with 4chan
No.141083
>>141080sorry, it doesn't reset if I close the posting box. each board has its own timer for some reason.
>>141081that's really weird. it's always worked fine before.
No.141085
>>141083did changing browser fix it though? It could be cookies caused a problem. Or maybe they made a change that targetted a chrome and you're on FF or Safari. IDK
No.141087
barneyfag still a thing?
No.141089
>>141087think he's a boogeyman on the 'oy'ak sphere but I'm not too sure because I'm not a filthy fucking redditor.
No.141092
>>141085the iphone uses safari. I haven’t tried other browsers yet because I can still post on PC.
>2 of my posts get deleted (no rules broken)well, for the moment anyway. maybe I’m paranoid but it feels like 4chan mods don’t like me.
No.141093
Post Office seems to have gone 404 on all pages. I assume the CP spam not getting cleaned up was an issue for the host. Sad things have to be this way.
No.141159
>>141080i straight up can no longer phonepost, not even from the connection i post on my PC. I think my country's ISP is just too low trust, i checked and the chrome app is not deleting cookies, they just expire on their own within the day.
No.141226
>>138286>>138290Posts that make you go "..."
No.141271
>>141270>If convicted, Cottle faces a maximum penalty of five years in prisonSucks, but at least they can’t ruin his life forever. Although why the fuck would you parade around information like that and actually have it physically on hand where the police can find it? Was he too stoned to properly secure himself?
No.141273
people who associate crimes with real identities are too stupid to see that far ahead.
No.141274
but the other possibility is that they found artifacts of the activity on his storages. But I wouldn't hold it to doubt that he just had it lying on a folder in his desktop
No.141288
>>141270Fuck him and fuck cripplecutie.
No.141300
>>141270That's what happens to washed up virtue signalling morons who let their own reputation get to their head and think they can still screw around on the internet like they did in the early 2000's when nobody knew how to address hacktivism.
No.141308
>>141270man was doing alright until the pandemic drove him to meth full time. He's been in a downward spiral not too different from Stamper ever since.
don't do (non-psychedelic) drugs, kids.
No.141309
>>141308yet for some reason it always seems like when people have connections to anything elicit they keep upping the anti
No.141319
nothing sad about it. It's the typical end of all druggies
No.141320
>>141319dying or becoming a diaperfur?
No.141324
>>141309Doing drugs indicates a tendency towards self destruction.
No.141327
Wonder how the 4manager is taking the news, they used to be buddies
No.141328
>>141309I think he was pretty much out of it, both hacktivism and drugs. I reiterate that the Pandemic ruined this man.
No.141336
>>141328How do kissu posters manage to stay sane in the face of adversity
No.141337
>>141336Strong bond to waifu.
No.141347
>>141336Bold to assume we are sane.
No.141348
>>141336My favorite anime girls would be very disappointed in me if I became a delinquent.
No.141351
>>141348a practitioner of the ideal observer theory of ethics
No.141354
>>141336I'm too lazy to use drugs or do crime.
No.141376
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Long ago 7chan once had a board for NSFW shota posting only for it to get spammed to hell and back by angery Russians leading to its deletion but now and at long last the board has returned. Im of the opinion this a happening as shota boards are very rare now.
No.141377
>>141376I can't believe 7chan is still alive at this point, very cool indeed.
No.141378
>>141377I almost exclusively remember 7chan as "4chan is down, let's go troll on 7chan".
No.141379
>>141376so that's why so many EU/US oligarchs hate russia so much
No.141382
In other news... world2ch is back again, again. Seems to have a different admin than the very brief incarnation from some years ago. Be warned there's like 5 posts across the entire site and half of them are CP spam already.
https://world2ch.net/ No.141384
>>141376>RussiansI remember conversing with the admin of 7chan on IRC, he commented that the site was effectively "dead" as in no community existed anymore, and the only activity were IPs from india making nonsense posts on the loli board.
No.141385
>>141383*not4chan board you mean, spinoff site that moot crosslinked to because the admin was a friend from the raspberry days.
No.141386
>>141385I'm almost sure that /sm/ and /l/ started as part of 4chan.
No.141389
>>141384Yeah there is some truth to that, 7chan is "dead" only because no one wants to go there because people say it's dead etc etc tale as old as tears in the rain...
No.141390
Looks like the 4chan April Fool's event is DOGE themed and.... small boards are closed.
Also post names randomly copy gnfos and give pronouns.
No.141391
>>141390>Also post names randomly copy gnfos and give pronouns.It seems like those posters are just trolling.
Here is what you get when you go to a "closed" board.
The blotter message is:
>In order to maximize productivity and eliminate abuse, the Department of 4chan Efficiency is reorganizing certain 4chan boards. No.141392
>>141391Seems kinda boring right now, but my guess is that DO4E starts to expand its cuts and soon more boards will start to be closed. Would be fun if at the end only the fastest board remains and before that it’s a contest to see who can generate more posts.
No.141395
>>141392I don't doubt that team4chan would think "encourage mindless spam" is a good idea for an event, but I don't see where the fun is in that. The only neat thing I can think of with this direction is reorganizing the closed boards, but that would just be repeating the mergers.
No.141399
>>141391they closed all the good boards to leave the spam filled ones up
I can't post on /cm/
I hate these retards so much
No.141404
>>141391This one can only be funny if a high-traffic board like /pol/ or /v/ ends up being closed, to see which boards they will claim.
Until then, it'll be a nothingburger. Closing low-traffic boards has no noticeable effect on anything.
No.141405
>>141404It has a noticeable effect on making me upset and making my experience objectively worse
No.141406
>>141404>This one can only be funny if a high-traffic board like /pol/ or /v/ ends up being closed, to see which boards they will claim.That would end in disaster. High traffic boards have enough critical mass to continue raiding slower boards after the event ends. It would probably turn every board with enough activity to farm (You)s into a permanent /vpol/ colony.
In any case, they didn't think this all the way through, because they closed all the NSFW anime boards but they still delete NSFW threads on /a/ as normal.
No.141408
>>141406I dislike these events all the time, why is everyone trying to disrupt normal posting for something nobody wants
No.141409
>>141406>High traffic boards have enough critical mass to continue raiding slower boards after the event endsWell I mean with the way the event's going, faster boards aren't going to be raiding smaller ones at the end of the event because all of the slower ones will be 'closed'. It'll probably end up with either /v/, /pol/, or /vt/ being the only board remaining at the end. Or if they're smart, /b/ or /bant/.
No.141412
>>141410They probably did, but I somewhat have doubts that some of the local mods got the memo. /pol/'s been slowly turning into /mlpol/ as we speak.
No.141413
Blah, I noticed that I could still access the closed boards using the archives but they really are locked down from posting.
No.141417
>>141377>>141378Are they still under the same ownership after all these years? I remember that site wanted to be the next 4chan through user drain really bad.
No.141418
>>141381The domain got nuked, server still works: 94.209.244.170
No.141420
>>141398If they were smart, they'd use this to restructure the bloated board list permanently. They won't, since Hiro likes making pointless board splits, but with site traffic on the decline and legacy splits having long since lost their meaning it would be a good time for it. It's been 10 years since the /mlp/ situation meant anything, the /v/ splits don't keep anything off /v/, /jp/ is a second /vt/, /a/ is so slow it has threads that last weeks while relevant topics are split between it and spin-off boards, there are like five /random/ boards when there isn't even a need for one anymore after all the worthwhile topics they used to discuss got moved out into their own dead boards no one uses, etc. Undoing the mess would help fix a lot of problems, but they'll never do it because they like the status quo of everyone having their own subreddit to be king of.
>>141404It's always a bit funny to see smallboardfags crying at the prospect of having to engage with the rest of the site for a single fucking day. I wish they'd close all the generals too so the rest of the isolationists would have to get out and talk to people outside their bubble. At least it's making it painfully obvious which of them are using bumpbots.
No.141421
>>141408Who even cares, 4chan has been normie trash for years. They deserve to experience real online trolling and not the janny/mod fest it has been. Too many gen z kids and millennial redditors made 4chan a joke which they think is some sort of meme
No.141423
>>141420>It's always a bit funny to see smallboardfags crying at the prospect of having to engage with the rest of the site for a single fucking dayWhy would anyone want to do that? How does it benefit anyone? If I am part of a small board it's because I like that board, and I don't like the big board. If I don't have that little board, I will not join the big board of generals.
What benefit does any small board have from being showed into a big board and being outnumbered and having all their threads shit all over by people who simply don't like their hobby? Not to mention the inability to have multiple threads because of lack of activity to keep threads alive. The entire board would just become one general. Dreadful.
¥I wish for many boards... No.141424
Forgot to mention, I will not use the rest of the site for the day. I will simply just not use the site. Great april fools 4chan.
No.141425
It was fun to crash out on /a/'s sofa for a few hours but the novelty largely wore off. There's always other things to do.