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Post interesting or unusual stuff concerning imageboards, textboards or related stuff here. This thread is for a more centralized place of limited discussion, but please feel free to make new threads if you want something more thoroughly discussed.
Imageboard Happening Archives

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Last Archived: February 7th, 2023


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Don't mind me, just killing an imageboard.




But in all seriousness, I see nothing wrong with it if the site's structured around it. It's upfront about what it is and if you don't like it you don't have to use it.


>if you don't like it you don't have to use it
Yeah, not like they raided dozens of other sites and shoved their trash in your face or anything.


I didn't know that site did that. That's really kuso.

But my point still stands. If you don't like the format don't interact with it.


Wait, I thought you were talking about basing your whole online identity on poorly drawn MS Paint memes popular with norms, not the chatroom thread format.


If you run a community based on antagonizing anyone and everyone for the sake of being antagonistic, you will eventually become a target of their antagonism. It's a bad idea.


No, I meant the chat format. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

See above.


Yeah, teenagers sharing dumb memes is normal and harmless, at least in theory. I don't think it's a coincidence that memes centered on attacking people birthed a culture that actively attacked imageboards.
It is (I won't say was yet) a place that prides itself on wiping out other imageboards and as someone that is a big fan of those (hence my presence in this thread) I am ideologically opposed to those that seek to destroy them.
If it stays dead then it means imageboards as a whole will receive less malicious antagonism. I can't pretend to be neutral about it.


8chan was a tremendous shitshow but I honestly miss it
Now that I think about it everything that transpired was unique to that time, I don't think we'll ever see something quite like it again
The 4chan exodus, the /fatpeoplehate/, the /intl/ saga, Hotdud and his cronies, the constant drama that eventually killed the site, the sheer number of groups crammed onto the website, the GETball competition
Everything surrounding /intl/ in particular was incredibly hilarious like the time they spammed /intl/ into Top 10 and when DudWheels got the entire site to raid /intl/.
The website was much smaller than 4chan but it felt so much bigger because of how many groups there were.
I remember browsing 8chan looking for niche and hidden boards.
A shame most of it was lost to 404 and time
So many memories

/intl/ won


the soyteens really are the modern incarnation of /b/fags with all that that label implies


Then I would argue that an imageboard is not geared towards that style of communication. They would be better off going to a proper chatroom rather than continuing to force the imageboard format to accomodate something it wasn't designed for.

That label implies a measure of creativity, variety, and impact, so I don't really see them as equivalents. There's a reason /raid/ never became a thing.


I was always pretty sympathetic to the party for that reason.
The label implies some nostalgia for a past they were never really a part of and a stubborn defiance that makes them not really mind being a pariah in other people's eyes because your idea of them doesn't intrude on their fun, if anything it fuels it.
Both of those things are right out of cancer era /b/.


>8chan was a tremendous shitshow but I honestly miss it


>The files are archives, leaked conversations and such. The site was bought up moments before this happened, by someone called "Andy", who no one knew about, prior.


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I especially miss /am/ but /intl/ was great too


>There's a reason /raid/ never became a thing.




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angeleno wasn't always competent either imo. The wiki bunker for instance had spam as well, but the booru is back up. I feel bad for Doll, really. Buying a site just to sell it. Poor man deserved better I guess. I do hope bad things happen to Red for what he did to everyone.
I never even know who that andy dude was since I didn't use discord I felt very out of the loop on nearly everything. Uni is starting for me soon so it's time for everything to come to an end anyway. Probably forget this even happened.


>I feel bad for Doll, really. Buying a site just to sell it
I don't.
>Poor man deserved better I guess
A better kick in the nuts.


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True, Doll was also responsible for a lot of the sites problems. He also should've fired Red otherwise the leak wouldn't have happened. I don't really agree with a lot of his decisionmaking, why he spent 10k on a babysitting site is really just beyond me. I doubt anyone will buy it from him either.


I missed the boat on 8ch. From where I stood, it looked like a site for gamergate people, and I didn't really feel like being part of that party.



Desuchan is back, but in a read-only state:

Anonfiles is dead:


Feels like a lights appearing from a storm with this coming back as soon as tge cancerman site dies. Although sucks about anonfiles.


yeah 8gag was definitely meant for people who still cared about GG. don't care enough to use moe or any of the other sites.
>anonfiles is dead
Pretty sad news. I've used them to link a few files on nyaa before, idk how I'll be able to go back and fix all of them seeing as I can't edit comments.


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4taba's server is expiring soon and Vern's tired of dealing with CP on two servers at once so he may close posting and just keep it up as an archive unless anyone else trustworthy is wiling to manage it instead.

It's expiring sometime in November I think so if anyone wants to reach out to him his email's always open.


sell it to that guy


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Based /intl/ chad
The sharty was the most fun I've had in an imageboard after /intl/'s spirit was carried by the wind. The past few months were pretty coaly but I'm optimistic this sudden shock will make the soyteens come back gemmier than before.


Exectly why I'd archive it rather than alternatives...


I'd be willing to help moderate if it's a manpower problem. I can't imagine the place gets more than 1 or 2 CP spam posts per day. Usually what I do with sites that slow is set up a simple script that queries the server every minute or so and displays a notification on my PC whenever anyone posts.


Just make it a public archive. Its very very slow without tabamin


sasuga absolute trash poster





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Tangentially related, "that guy", the former owner of that site was charged with diddling kids


me as the house maid


interesting, sors?
thought he was dying of aids or some other sickness, but in retrospect that could've pefectly been a joke


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What site is this?
I'm pretty sure the AIDS thing wasn't a joke, based on conversations I've had with people tangential to him on IRC and what he has posted himself on telegram in the past. Though as with many other things surrounding this fucker it can't be verified at all and should be taken with a massive grain of salt.


It looks like Heyuri


It's not, they don't have those IDs and I couldn't find the post anyway


How does knowing that someone has played S.T.A.L.K.E.R. count as evidence that they sucked your dick five years ago?


this doesn't surprise me given that he had an underage polish boy on his moderation team.


I think that imageboards lost their social role. People can upload images with their comments on various SNSs now. Hey kissu, how about starting a Mastodon instance or the like?


Social platforms are always based off of timeless concepts that can be traced back to Greek historical records.
Not to say we are all Greek, but because they kept the best records and it matches with everything else we know.
None of the social platforms are ever going away.


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>off of
neat construction that seems to be making a comeback
apparently it's proscribed and considered redudant, a trend probably started by one of those pretentious 18th-19th century gasoline huffers who wouldn't know grammaticality if it... i don't know what grammaticality can do to you, but you get the idea


Kinda a surprising trend imo. While it doesn't sound ungrammatical to me, if I say it out loud I contract it to something like 'offa' from which the natural evolution would seem to be dropping the 'of' entirely.




The userbase is really offputting though.
maybe the German part of the site isn't.


if the problem is you speak german then that's the problem


If you can believe it it's worse than it used to be. The 'zine made a lot of the less pretentious (unironic Serious Discussion™️) users leave.
KC was getting better before the admin let it die, it's a shame really


cripplekike and null couldn't handle the buffalo, good times


It never occured to me that /intl/ is probably a large reason why fred is the way he is


well my gaysea friend
what's left for us, now?
I don't know where to go


It depends on what you're looking for, I guess
For niche interests find out wherever they gather, ditto with regional chatter
To blog/talk current events, no fucking idea
Maybe DG was doing us a favour


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Presumably there's nothing planned, right? I think it's been years since hiro appeared and he's got money from his youtube stream.
I suppose you can't expect something like https://4chan.org/flash?file=cakeformoot.swf again.


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>infinitely less special than the 10th anniversary image
>drawn by a furry fetish artist on top of that
For fucks sake.


It does suck but at the same time an image capturing the last 10 years of 4chan would be extremely depressing to look at so maybe it's for the best. Would be nice if the furry artist didn't make it so obvious they want to fuck the Hiroshimoot rabbit at least though.


Hiro treats the site as passive income, his policy is to have the staff do the bare minimum needed to keep the site usable and superficially keep traditions going to prevent total outrage because that minimizes the risk of him needing to get involved. That image is the bare minimum for a birthday celebration. Not having moot in it is a slap in the face, though.

A 20th anniversary image should cover 20 years and even in the last 10 years of decline plenty of good stuff has been created. It may have lost prominence as an exporter of internet culture, but that doesn't mean the stuff it imports hasn't become quintessential 4chan enough to justify being in an image like that. There was cancer back then too, you just don't focus on that during a celebration.


Moot's in the corner


So... was the cockmongler irate gamer?


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This was posted on [s4s], so it has their stuff mixed in: https://boards.4chan.org/s4s/thread/11049908#p11082437


Damn, there's like a sadness to pedobear now. He completely got replaced by spurdo


Don't you think it's sad that almost all of these memes are from the first decade?
Not really seeing it.




This image comes to mind. Do not click.


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No. You have many places to post such images and kissu is not one of them.


He's just sad he's standing on the wrong side. Must have a court order...

4chan doesn't have new memes. All the current ones are just rehashes of ragefaces from 2011 cancer. It's a good stylistic choice to use the old memes, but it barely represents 1% of 4chan at this point.


Fair enough


What did he post?
And I think I've already asked this, but why don't you use a capcode? It's confusing.


elle still wants to fight after being slapped twice


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4chan does get new memes, but I'd say what has changed is that they don't cross boards as much, and with many boards having generals there's a second level of isolation added to it. Some of them cross just by virtue of being relevant to multiple boards, like the "pokemon creatures" editorial comic joke that was somewhat successful on /co/ and /v/. I would say /v/ still gets a healthy amount of OC, but the board moves on from it pretty fast which is generally how it's supposed to work.

One of those new variety of wojaks centered on attacking people for enjoying things. It was spoilered, but no one would enjoy seeing it (which he admits in his post).

>but why don't you use a capcode?
Well, you could infer it from my post, right? We don't really like using staff capcodes here unless absolutely necessary. I just want to be anonymous


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Wow, it's nothing.


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Just off the top of my head Todd Howard, TLOU2 edits, and Stick-chan all started on /v/ and spread through the whole internet this decade. Also [s4s] is barely over 10 years old, so everything they did falls in this decade, some of which has become sitewide culture like topkek. And I'll give /pol/ MAGA hats before everything spiraled out of control there. /tv/ had baneposting and cunny, which admittedly didn't start this last decade but did take off with the rest of 4chan and the wider web within it. Oh, and I guess I KNEEL has passed from /a/ to everywhere else now, though I doubt they'd be happy about that.

The totally anonymous poster is right: the site has become way more subdivided and insular over the last 7-ish years and that makes it much harder for things to reach the same level of ubiquity as the old memes did, but a few still break out of the /b/2.0 regions and catch on elsewhere. There are still plenty of short-lived in-jokes popping up where fun is still allowed and those are the real imageboard spirit, contrasting with the reddit spirit of rage comics and cancerman being driven into the ground.


It's also just the case that meme culture has been in decline internet-wide over the past decade. There's still plenty of localized community in-jokes, of course, with the occasional one spreading past that, but with nothing like the regularity and impact that they had in the 2000s and early 2010s - even the word 'meme' itself has in many circles come to mean little more than 'funny image' these days. It's hard to think of any memes from recent years that come close to rivaling the global recognizability of, say, advice animals or rage comics - even Pepe and Wojak have been around more than a decade at this point.


this is nice art


Bowsette started on /v/


I think advertiser posting in response to NSFW on blue boards is from this decade as well. Architect posting is also another new /tv/ one that has spread to other boards.


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Yeah, "think of the advertisers" was in response to Hiro trying to get rid of lewdposting and went full-throttle when he did the 4channel split.

/sp/ also had three world cups, with Bra71l and BANG BANG BANG being recognizable across boards. Also Punished Messi, which itself is a result of the MGSV hype that took over the whole damn site and got integrated into everything in some way, as did Kill la Kill. /v/ spread no way fag around too and /tv/ did sheevposting, HOWEVER, and kin (though I'm not happy about the last one). /a/ was the origin of >imagine and Abe memes. So even if the era of image macros is over, there were still quite a few memes that spread out of the place over the past decade.


right next to pepe and that /v/ girl


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there was one imageboard, it was about simping tiktok girls only. full of tiktok girl threads, every girl has their own thread, it was dynamic ibanyone knows? I can't remember the name.


That's the one that came from people on 4chan's /wsg/, right?
I don't remember its name, but I'm pretty sure I heard that it got deleted. I think?
It's far from my purview so maybe even asking on /wsg/ on 4chan would be better. See if there's a related thread there maybe.


Sturdychan, formerly known as 2chen. The fags from /g/'s "Sperm Tech" general moved there too after mods banned them for their "third eye" add-ons.


sperm tech


wow I don't know how to thank you, legit spent 3 hours to find that board


Baby batter tech.


very minor happening but /x/ has a spooky ghost on the catalog and it seems to be the only board haunted by it


Major happening. /hap/ research has broken containment
they are breaking threads left and right


I looked, and using some specific long tripcode breaks the native extension apparently?
I didn't notice anything with 4chan x.


A bunch of & > or " get escaped and somehow gets 4chan to clip the unescaped html of the tripcode field. That changes the html structure to something that isn't expected, breaking the native extension.

Exploit simple how-to: https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/97054762#p97055250


nice, another feather in 4chan's already puffed up goofy exploits cap


What happened to Wapchan? It seems that the site has been replaced by a new one, but I can't find a link to it anywhere. The links to the boards are still there, but you can't visit them (404 Not Found).


Was there not an announcement ahead of time? Looking at /digi/, the only board with posts, it seems like it was a surprise to people? This might be the first time I've ever seen a '402 Payment Required" error on a website. I guess give it a few days like someone already said there, but that's really a strange way of doing things.


I know this is already old news but, I just can't help but say it feels like this sort of thing should have been discovered YEARS earlier with how often anons play around with stuff. I wonder what else is still out there.


Seems that the posts have been restored, at least the text.


can't read this site's name without thinking of the kuon posts


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I want all imageboards to accept webm/mp4 please...


okay there's no excuse for mp4


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this isn't a happening but I don't know where else to talk about this. usually I would go to OG /qa/ but... well, you know. and [s4s] is just NOT a good replacement.

on /v/ there are AI threads which have been pretty fun but suddenly posts are getting deleted left and right due to aggressive moderation (and potentially a mass-reporter). some dude posted pic related and got either warned or banned (even though it was on-topic). yet other posters just spam their kuso fetish all day (no joke, they post almost identical images for 10~ hours). it's always feet or obesity. like, what the fuck? I'm legitimately afraid to post an obscure video game character out of fear of being banned for """""off-topic""""".


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Sasuga 4chan staff.


/v/ is often /b/-lite, this sounds like mass reporting harassment


>afraid to post an obscure character out of fear of being banned for """""off-topic"""""
Ah, the /a/ treatment. AI threads are cancer, as you yourself have explained, so I see it as a case of mods only doing half of their job.


>AI threads are cancer
Honestly, with how many boards have one in them, I don't understand why Hiro hasn't made an AI board yet. Vtubers weren't even as pervasive as it is right now.


is that a thing becaues i've tried mass reporting many times and it always ends up with me getting a 3 day for something i posted days or weeks prior, and the posts i mass report never get deleted i think the team 4chan have it out for people who do that yeah...


>i've tried mass reporting many times


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pic not related but it's something I made
that's the same conclusion the other users have come to as well.
the worst part is that EVERY ban is 3 days, so you can't even appeal it.


What site was Wapchan again? It sounds so familiar but I can't for the life of me remember what it is...


>One of those new variety of wojaks centered on attacking people for enjoying things
As an 00's /v/irgin I think more people need to be attacked for liking the wrong things, personally.
Does a body good.


It's the 4mod version of schizoposting. The senior mods can still see your IP when they go to ban you. If they make a spurious connection between your geolocation and your posts, presuming you to be a single person or some "known" shitposter, they go out of their way to ban you.
I live by a college and I get conflated with what must be at least a dozen early 20's shitposters all the time, slapped with ban evasion or other such nonsense for posts I never made. You get very autistic interpretations of the rules when they think you're some shitposting demon and you get banned for very little.

Alternatively they just know you're a mass reporter and they're tired of you. You're mileage may vary.


Imageboard version of Agora road


can you explain agora road


pretend i dont know anything about 00s forum culture


You can do that in better ways than plastering the site with template images designed to be displeasing to the eye and going "this is what you look like!" I honestly feels like they're false flags with how they make the poster look worse than the person they're insulting.


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This is what you look like!


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When you have Roman graffiti saying the equivalent of "look at me I suck dicks" you know the straw man comic format isn't going to go anywhere.
I'll join you in hoping the wojack era art gets dropped from the format, though.


4chan is down again


Seems like a similar error to earlier this year? I wonder what's going on


It's somewhat different. Threads and the catalog are loading just fine, but you can't get captchas and the refresh thread button doesn't work. The site in general is slow too.


4chan is already back, if anyone cares.


Shoutouts to what's left of ghost. Surprising lack of posters this close to Christmas.


NTA but I remember posting in OG /qa/ and getting my IP blocked (like, my specific address; NOT a range). It's because I was reporting the schizo wojak spam (the one where they greentext EVERYTHING over and over again). I guess I shouldn't have bothered.


If you run afoul of a mod on any board there they'll just make shit up to ban you. It has been four years now and I'm still unable to post on /g/ from any IP within 100 miles of my old residence. They got so tired of me pointing out that the mods were shitting the board up on purpose that they range banned an entire city. From time to time I check and it's still there. I'm guessing someone near the area tries to post on /g/ from time to time and they assume it's me.

I didn't even do anything wrong. I just got tired of the constant "LOL you don't have bidet" threads from Google employees and the constant troon bait. The mods were doing this thing where they'd post some thread vaguely related to technology that they could shift into /lgbt/ type discussion. When they were called out about this they'd write essays for hours in those threads. Then they'd purge most every good post that wasn't one of theirs (meaning the other half of the argument), call it "trolling outside of /b/", ban everyone, archive the thread and then re-post a similar one. This went on for nearly 2 years on /g/ before a bunch of anons bullied the schizo pre-op abomination of 3DPD (his words not mine) into leaving. I'm sure the new batch isn't any better.

/g/ is moderated by a combination of feds, big /tech/ employees and lonely kids confused about their gender doing it for free. It's why the quality of the board is so bad compared to even 5 years ago. They chased out everyone that stayed after the exodus to 8ch/tech/ which took the vast majority of anyone that could into coding. Even /tech/ was lost before 8ch died to a group of skids. Most everyone ended up on various /prog/ boards and threads on hobby boards.

We all know the mods have always been fags. But the faggotry going on today is much worse than the old days. They don't just try to censor the place they actively post propaganda and hate the userbase. It only continues to exist because they don't feel like going through the trouble of baiting everyone into another honeypot. It's why any alt-chan with more than 10 active posters instantly gets targeted and spammed with pizza+ddos'ed+deplatformed. It's always blamed on some random group of discord troons but in reality it's directed by the intelligence community. It's why there aren't any fun memes or organic movements through the internet anymore. They own and control all the platforms. Hell 4chan itself is hosting out of a military base now.

I think it's interesting that they ended up with a Japanese as the face of the west's biggest imageboard while Jim Watkins is the face of Japan's. Really funny how they did that and left both userbases with no actual contact with the admins. You'll notice that both of these people do not even interact with the community at all. The userbase doesn't even bother to complain because they know no one is listening. This is very different from the old days when the admins got yelled at everyday for little bugs and dumb decisions.

I really should sit down and write about the history of the web and its culture between about 2002 and 2023 before the real story is lost to time. No one trying to be honest has sat down and attempted to document it all. All the archive sites and wikis are filled with lies made up by newfags attempting to fit-in. Or straight lies by oldfags trying to bury something embarrassing from their past. It's no coincidence that websites like ED and KF were run/ran by the exact people that shouldn't be hosting anything. KF's owner (not typing name to avoid sending him google alert) only runs his website to prevent the story of his past being posted online. He got tired of being made fun of by most of the internet everyday. Instead of changing his ways he buried all mentions of himself and now he controls the flow of information about people like Chris-chan. He even stole thousands of dollars from anons during the 8ch pig farm days. But no one talks about it and if you dare mention it anywhere on the internet the users of his forum will show up to attack whatever platform it's being hosted on.


Theories about 4chan/internet/etc being controlled by [disliked group of the moment] is best left for somewhere else. This thread is for happenings


Yeah, that's why most technology talk has been shuffled to other protocols, be it IRC or Matrix or Slack etc. (usually the latter two these days, though XMPP seems to being have a resurgence in popularity).


I thought everyone liked big tech employees and just hated those big bad suits


It IS a happening though. It's the biggest happening in the last 6-8 years. If you haven't noticed the shift everywhere you're not paying attention.

But I take your point and will respect it.

XMPP and IRC are the only real options. Everything else has central control server. The reality is they managed to fragment everyone in the middle of 2019 and no one was able to establish the next big place. So everyone ended up getting split into various discord and telegram channels. Where the content can be controlled, monitored and deleted forever if need be (can't effectively mass archive any of that stuff). While the web itself was tard wrangled and everyone was forced back into places like twitter, reddit, 4chan and instagram. All of which require RealID already excluding 4chan which just doxes you based on IP or the pass system.

I find it very odd that the one big happening since 2019 (well two) are the exact subjects that are always labeled
>we don't talk about this in comfy thread take it to uncomfy thread/site
I understand why it's that way: It invites the drama and gets the place attacked and taken down. But this attitude is the reason why nothing related to that topic is archived. Which allows people to make shit up about what really happened and use it as justification for even more censorship.

I for one have faith in people not to wander "off-topic" for very long. No one should care that "off-topic" discussion is happening somewhere as long as it doesn't totally derail the thread or attempt to exclude other conversations happening in said thread.

Do not get me started on what's really going on. It's a sad depressing story. I went down this rabbit hole in 2020 and discovered a lot of bad things. I've been trying to warn everyone about what I've found since then. I've been banned more times than I can count and the bots follow me around like I'm made of pure energy. My power level has risen way over 9,000. I even know what keywords to avoid to be able to talk about this without luring them in now.

You must excuse the length of my posts. I have autism you see. I type 200wpm. I have a lot to say. Feel free to call me a faggot if you want.


I hate them because they made fun of me in an interview once.


I hate them because they made tiktaks bragging about not doing anything at work and then cried about being laid off (and then went to work at the NSA)


Tell the story plz


I like the ideas you have as far as documenting the internet, culture surrounding it, etc. Definitely sounds like a group effort that needs more collaboration. If something gets started, I wouldn't mind writing a few pieces towards it. I've been involved with a lot of it ranging from geocities in late 90s to all sorts of various forums between 1997 - 2003, Newgrounds in the early 2000s, and 4chan as early as mid 2004. I agree with a lot of your statements, especially regarding /g/. Not too mention how bad the bot posts have become there as well. 4chan as a whole seems so inorganic and has been truly stale even well before moot left. I still visit there from time to time and just get sad on top of being annoyed with how devolved the next wave of anons are over there. I guess it's really not a lot of their faults as they didn't have the same chances to discover better online "avenues" as the previous generations. I see from time to time that people really want an "old web revival" as well. I wonder what that would really look like if there was a large enough collab among web enthusiasts. I'll admit I enjoy seeing webrings on neocities even though I know it's not even remotely the same as well as some of the faults surrounding all of that. Either way things need to make a shift and soon before all of us lose in the end. The web as we all came to know and love is on life support while tptb are on their way to the building to pull the plug once and for all.


I'm sick of every imageboard that manages to avoid pol9k-ification devolving into people bitching about how the internet sucks now and we live in a dystopia and so-on and so-forth.

Like, I get it: corporations are evil, the government enables them, and both are spying on you. But I already know that; it's why I'm here. Kissu's an escapist site about escapist subject matter. I use it to get away from the stressful bullshit of the rest of the internet, in the same way I used to come to the internet in general to get away from the stressful bullshit of real life.

And to be clear, I'm not going to throw a shitfit just because someone said something negative about the modern internet, or modern life in general. What I take issue with is the doom-and-gloom everything is terrible attitude; not because it's wrong, but because it's fucking exhausting.


The happenings thread is a treated as an embassy thread of sorts; posts that would get deleted elsewhere are able to stay here because we expect (and hope) people that primarily use other sites will make use of it or contribute. That's not to say that trolling or otherwise purposely causing trouble will be tolerated, however.




The kissu secret police on happening gheto patrol


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Seems like the new board isn't working either? Also /azu/'s archive (>>104745) is dead too.
This is what appears on the main page for the new board:
>/azu/ wiill be back soon, in november!
So we'll see what happens until November ends, I guess.

I've been thinking about /azu/ again, specifically about the PHP galleries that were hosted on the site, as seen on this snapshot: https://archive.li/eyOGE . If someone from the /azu/ discord is reading this please let me know if these pictures have been archived, I remember there were a lot of great old-school azuma/barasui pictures there.


don't think ill be reading a ``history of the web'' written by a severely autismal 35 year old senpai no matter how """"authentic"""" you think it is


kono gaki.... you should listen to your senpai, you know?


Ota died


guess that means the spammer will be back on the rest of the circle now


It's gone down suddenly before and returned, although this time it's had illegal spam sitting on it for weeks (and apparently some freak trying to kill it by bumping all of it repeatedly) so it might be serious this time. Presumably the gathering place for them would be gnfos as every other ota-adjacent spinoff is dead.


rest in piss




the most relevant meta thread on it


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>So we'll see what happens until November ends, I guess.
It'll be back up this month, promise! Your post gave me the kick in the butt I needed to finally restore it. I've just been super busy IRL and haven't gotten around to it. Apologies for the downtime.
>I've been thinking about /azu/ again, specifically about the PHP galleries that were hosted on the site
I sadly do not have anything from the "galleries" tab of the old imageboard archived, and not much of the site either. I've asked on the Discord and no one else there does either. Pic related is the status of all the site/image archives, which are now back online at https://azu.nfshost.com/archive/



Does anyone know where my ota friends moved to?
(Besides gnfos)


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Kind died, what died, bun died, nen's hanging on by a thread. You know where.


Unfortunately, I don't think you've missed any sort of exodus and that's probably the place with the highest concentration. You could make a thread here like some nen people did when it died, if you want. Looking at gnfos it seems like buttmin might bring back /what/, but obviously it wouldn't be the same thing.


They went to the far beyond lands of a place called IRL.


hope he brings back /butt/


I really miss Dreamchan.


Me too...


I dont know where


Does anyone know where there's a good wrestling board other than /pw/? I don't have any interest in ever returning to 4chan.


4chan /g/ never recovered from the text boards being deleted. Now it's 80% made up of all the terrible imageboard versions of the old /prog/ and /tech/ threads.


Strangely of all 420chan had a quite successful one from what I heard. Unfortunately do note the "had" and not "has" since that place is still dead with a "soon" placeholder starting page.
I checked the webring and there's a /wooo/ (which I think was the 420 board?) but it seems like it's a lot slower than the original: https://tvch.moe/wooo/
They might have gone to a different place, but I don't personally know.


Isn't tvch a pol9k place?


smuglo.li has a /wooo/ too, but I don't know which of the two is more active.


tvch is pretty much not worth using because it's 4-6 moderators that have done everything in their power to chase away users for the last several years. Whenever someone calls them out for their actions they blame it on some troll that hasn't been around in years. Most of them sit in a discord chat all day attempting to latch on to failed e-celebs in an attempt to gain internet fame. It's really that bad.

tvch and vch (8/v/) both attempted to kill off the webring in the early days. They tried to force users back into 8kun when it re-launched. When it was discovered Mark was on payroll and had control over who did and didn't get BO access to popular boards people lost faith and never came back. The moderators of tvch then spent the next year or so doing everything they could to kill off all of the rest of the boards in the webring. For whatever reason they really hate smuglo.li and 8/a/. They were also against /cow/'s board because it hosted threads about tvch's owner and Mark (who were friends IRL). All that stupid drama and pizza spam spawned from the discord channel the tvch jannys use. They went on an autistic crusade against any board that allowed you to post anime. The TLDR is they're cancer.

I'm not sure where the users of /wooo/ went after the attempt to migrate to smug. The tvch people used to try to host streams of wrestling events but they chased away everyone outside of their little clique with their usual antics. There isn't a board in the entire webring that they haven't openly attacked. They've even doxed multiple admins over the years for the simple crime of allowing content they didn't like. They forced several boards like /jp/ to migrate from board-to-board without a proper home. Then would dox anyone that gave them shelter. I've lost count of how many people have closed up shop and left forever because of this small group of people.

Aside from smug most of the webring hasn't been worth lurking for a long time. I go months between visits and nothing much changes. The same threads from years ago are still in the catalog and it's always the same handful of people posting the the endless generals. You haven't missed any kind of exodus. There simply isn't anywhere left to go outside of the chat applications that require you to dox yourself for access. I think we're finally seeing the death of the web itself. It has been replaced with stuff like telegram and discord. It's very lonely now if you don't want to dox yourself for access to chat rooms filled with power tripping moderators and admins.


Most open source protocols can be done anonymously, and a lot of the users there are into nerd shit.
There's also cagematch if you can tolerate the smarks but its not really a forum


Also I wouldn't call them a /pol/ / /rk9/ place. One of the first things they did during the early webring days is shut down any discussion related to politics and current events. Everyone was fear mongering that if we didn't censor ourselves we'd get deplatformed. Then they turned right around and posted that type of content on unrelated boards and emailed hosting providers to deplatform boards within the webring they didn't like. Most of which only committed the crime of talking about /a/ and /v/ type hobbies. In other words they're hypocrites.

It'd be more correct to say that they're the absolute worse type of anon from late-era /cow/. When that board when from documenting the antics of strange people on the internet to following the day-to-day drama of youtubers and related e-celebs. They even showed up here at one point attempting to dox the owner because they thought the /jp/ board was related to someone they were having autism wars with on tvch at the time. There was some guy that liked 2hu that started poking fun at them a few years ago. I can't remember all of the details but they got at least 3 imageboards shut down over the course of like 2 months simply because they thought that person was posting on them.

I'm honestly convinced a few of them were being paid to prevent any 8chan-type imageboard from building up a user base in the wake of 8chan getting taken down due to the antics of /pol/. Instead of a proper exodus we ended up having a lot of people getting forced back into 4chan because it was the only imageboard with an active community. None of the established smaller alt-chans wanted to take in that mass of users. The ones that popped up to take on those users were all deplatformed one way or the other by the same small group.

I am not really that familiar with /wooo/ content because I stopped following wrestling when it got boring circa-1999/2000. I'm just saying that there really isn't a place you can go to talk about it as anon anymore. I'm sure it's true small communities for it exist but most of them seem to be centered around youtubers and more mainstream sources of content. It isn't like pre-2020 imageboards where boards for this stuff exists that you can lurk as a casual fan. Star Trek community suffers the same issue. When we lost /strek/ on 8ch nothing ever showed up to fill that gap despite it being a very active board with a close-nit community.


Last time I checked smugloli it was just a general chit-chat thread more than anything


True but if you want to talk about seasonal anime it isn't that bad. 8/a/ managed to survive due to having a good plan and established bunker. Most hobby boards did not.


I was familiar with /wooo/ on 420chan. They were more centered around Japanese wrestling and indie promotions which I very rarely even bother with. I still browsed it for a bit early into AEW starting then after just stopped getting on there until one day I found out that it had died. I do get on tvch and smug's /wooo/ boards which it doesn't bother me getting on slow boards but they are literally dead crawls missing out on so much active discussion that could be had. I've honestly thought about seeking out a few forums that may be active at least on a week by week basis.

At this rate looking back in retrospect, it's almost seeming like 8chan truly caused more harm than good by ever even being created in the first place. Makes one wonder what the state of imageboards would look like if it never were created. I also don't really understand why board politics has become so aggressive in recent years which ultimately has ended up messing up so much potential that 'altchans' really could have had.


In my opinion 8chan was fine outside of the larger boards in its last year. There were so many small active communities there that minded their own business and avoided the attention the larger boards like /pol/ drew in from outsiders. The concept of being able to quickly make a new board and being able to moderate it mostly outside of the control of the administration was a good thing (save a handful of global rules to prevent the entire place getting nuked).

The problem when it died was a lot of outside forces organized together to ensure nothing like it would take off again. Everyone was too terrified to allow the users to moderate themselves. The one host that did take in anyone no questions asked was quickly over run with people seeking global positions that did everything in their power to discourage people from using the place. It only took them a month or two to chase away all the users. Now they sit in an echo chamber with like 8 active users (all jannys of course) blaming everyone else for the lack of activity. They claim what they did was a good thing. They burned it all to the ground just so they didn't have to see anime on the catalogs and overboards. The thought of simply not lurking such places never crossed their minds.

As I said before I'm convinced most of these people were paid off to do this. There is absolutely no way in hell someone could be so stupid. At one point you had a global mod throwing hissy fits about lolis and instagram models on a mexican board being pedophilia. All the while the same person was camping a board where pedophilia was being posted on the daily. But it was okay for them to participate in it because it was e-celeb drama and they were seeking fame. Killing off the momentum and chasing all the boards/users away wasn't good enough for them though. They had to organize with a handful of other jannys and dox and harass every other board in the webring. They couldn't allow people to move to another host and moderate themselves. It all made sense when it came out that the same people moderating that host were the jannys on tvch.

They killed off the only viable 8chan clone because they were mad that people wouldn't use their imageboard. I don't know why people get involved in such petty drama. It's sad to see it. Every year or so I go back and lurk and the same 6 or 7 jannys are still there posting in one thread everyday. Blaming everyone but themselves for the lack of activity and OC.


Stop using that fuckugly word. And you're not even pluralizing it right!

>As I said before I'm convinced most of these people were paid off to do this. There is absolutely no way in hell someone could be so stupid.
You'd be surprised. Anyone who's had a j*b for any length of time can tell you that there's a disconcerting number of people that are basically high-functioning retards; people who are exactly smart enough to get themselves into a position where they can then fuck everything up for everyone else.

My impression of the tvch guys, having dealt with people like them before, is that they're just bullies, hence their obsession with dipshit e-celeb drama. They're not attacking other people with any sort of agenda in mind; they're attacking because it makes they feel superior.

Aside from all that, I'm glad 8ch failed. It attempted to do for imageboards what Reddit did for forums and Discord did for chatrooms. Centralization of services that could and should exist standalone is always a bad thing, even if it's in the name of "democratizing" the web.


I saw the deleted post.


8chan was a terrible idea for an imageboard even discounting their aggressive attempts to recruit radical political obsessives. moot was right when he said creating too many boards subdivides the community and removes opportunities for novel interactions. 4chan itself suffered from this during that time period when it made boards like /sci/ and /diy/ which led to a braindrain on /b/ that caused even the dumb and silly threads to lose a lot of potential, and that problem has only grown as boards and even individual threads increasingly isolate themselves from the site as a whole. I understand why people gravitate towards that kind of set-up, but good moderation should counterbalance this by forcing everyone to coexist. That's not possible when everyone can set up their own mini-community to exclude whatever group or opinion they don't want to deal with anymore. You end up with an environment where the people with extreme views set up echo chambers that make them more extreme and the people who want to take it easy huddle up in tiny groups homogeneous enough to ensure no disagreement or evolution ever occurs. Those aren't environments where interesting things happen.


moot was unequivocally wrong about board subcultures and the hatchet he took to /a/ before leaving should be applied to his forehead.


The first year of 8chan was fun and did have intra-board interactions (considering a gay male board and a furry board were extremely popular it wasnt just a political echochamber) and it had a very active IRC channel.


I miss 8chan.


I'm glad it's gone.


I just checked and it's back


be yourself, retard


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Words to live by.


still find it hilarious that people keep saging a thread with autoage
sage does nothing, sure, sure


Views don't need to be political to be extreme. "All shounen should be banned from /a/" is not a political view, but it is an extremist one and one that has been continually reinforced by separation between the concerned parties.


I haven't found a community I'm interested in since 8chan was around. I can't relate to imageboard related topics at all anymore. I check up on imageboards because I grew up with them and they're the only way of communicating online that I'm comfortable with. It's more comfortable to stay off the internet.


Was this archive of the old axypb.net /azu/ board saved?


kohlchan /int/ is pretty decent


What happened to wapchan?


I went there yesterday and saw that cheese pizza had been up for 6 days, I think the admin had become inactive and it was taken down


I don't believe so. You could maybe ask on heyuri, or was that someone else?

It's so depressing to see how many imageboards die because of that vile garbage. I hate it so much. I hope the users had a meeting place in mind somewhere for such a situation. If not, this is another reminder to people to have something set up ahead of time for any community you're a part of.


If kissue dies lets all meet up on v's threads


I mean, Kissu has Sageru #qa, and Rizon #qa and #kissu. I like to think at least most people would be able to coordinate a new site if worst were ever to come.


It was a joke


The admin is rolling back from vichan to lynxchan since his update failed. I think the site is going back up soon


If Kissu dies then I die too


>You could maybe ask on heyuri, or was that someone else?
Unfortunately the archivers were the "soyjack party" trolls and that site has died, no way to contact whoever had hosted it.


That seems inconvenient.


/v/ has Doom CSS to celebrate it's 30th birthday


Site's back up, the admin's just not a NEET so he couldn't fix it immediately


What's going on with wirechan? Just late getting their certs back up? Or something more?


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Seems like 4channel.org is kill, well except for the homepage which still exists. But now all boards redirect to 4chan.org.


Oh, I was wondering why my theme reset. Guess Hiro finally realized that the loose separation wasn't attracting any more advertisers than there already were?


I use uBlock on PC but whenever I use 4chan on my android I notice most ads were either crypto scams or "advertise on this site" type of banners.


someone needs to compile a grand list of imageboards again. Seems like 50% of them have died since the covid years


I thought about it and even made a thread about it here somewhere, but the thing is that the sites really need active moderation before they should be listed. Not so much for general raiding (which is quite rare these days) but for the illegal spam which is an unfortunate reality of having an imageboard and especially one that is on a list that gets passed around. Unfortunately, not many of them have said moderation and the stuff can sit there for days which will invariably get them yanked by the host.
Permission could be asked ahead of time so any possible negative repercussions are, uhh.. consensual? (how else do I say this)
I don't know, this just seems like an iffy thing to do, but it probably would be beneficial.


maybe the best thing is just for them to be found naturally in that case


fuck off m8


Why are you so upset?


The idea of "naturally" finding something is such a misnomer that it's basically impossible not to get angry at people who think discovering something through an affiliate, advertisement or search engine is anything different from finding it by being friends with another person who advertises in place of the organization


Not exactly happening, but today I found out both my home ISP and my cellphone carrier's IP range has been blacklisted by 4chan because of "abuse". I tried VPN, but that quickly gets detected and perma-banned/blacklisted. Looks like Hiromooot doesn't want people posting there without paying.


He's raking in the cash by allowing shills free access to the boards while banning all the real users. If you buy the pass you're basically paying them to advertise to you.


The 4chan captcha seems to have gotten updated again, though my auto-solver still works most of the time. It puts a big circle somewhere in the middle that makes each captcha look like the Japanese flag.


When Hiro first was announced I remember reading a handful of reaction threads on 2ch/an. One of the things that got echoed a lot on 2chan was this, Hiro liked to hand out range bans on 2ch to drive account sales.


It's amusing how the main English imageboard ended up being run by the tyrant of Japanese imageboards. Meanwhile the tyrant of 8chan ended up running the largest Japanese imageboard.

How do they keep getting away with it?


According to open2ch they did it on purpose to use the language barrier as an excuse


That's my opinion on the matter as well. Any complaints can be written off as
>so sorry I can't understand you
Jim Watkins was very shady pre-8chan even. But after he showed up in front of the US Congress and nothing was ever said again about it I'm unwilling to go anywhere near any IP range he owns.

The only reason he can bully people is the fact that he bought a block of IPv4 addresses way way back in the day. If he didn't have that no one would have ever bothered doing business with him.

I wish I would have purchased a block of IPv4 addresses and gotten a bunch of free 2-3 letter .coms back then. At one point you could get those .coms for free.


Check out chan.city


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I don't remember this was there before.


So is it new?


I have never seen it until now, and I don’t recall it being in the image files listed out in the past in some older /qa/ /s4s/ threads.


What are some of the longest ritual posts/threads out there?


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4chan is nesting captchas now, placing their own native captcha behind cloudfare's verification. This is likely being done to combat the ubiquitous use of captcha solvers on mobile apps and more speculatively, to combat bots. This comes after the in house captcha has been updated at least twice in the last month, updates that proved insufficient to combat the solvers.
From my personal experience the public captcha solvers on 4chan have a success rate of around 95%.


I remember there being a screenshot from 2003 (or maybe 2004) of a "me on the left" post. It might predate 4chan even, but I think it's one of the funniest long-lasting stock replies.



It’s for the better that 4chan did that honestly.
(It’s been forever since I visited 4chan other than visiting the site once to look around one time last year.)


Fortunately it doesn't do this every time. It was freezing up my captcha solver at first, but once I turned it off and clicked through the CF one once I was able to turn it back on and continue posting without solving that stupid fucking puzzle. I swear the solvers have better success rates than I do.


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Going to put this here instead of making a thread since it's about 4chan. There are two odd things I've noticed about 4chan over the last few years and I was wondering if they'd happened to anyone else.

1) 4chan works even if you don't pay ISP bill.

At least with my local ISP it does. I've forgotten to pay my bill on time 3-4 times in the last few years. Every time I was able to continue using 4chan even days after my service had been shut off. The only thing that happens is the speed is reduced to be on-par with old ISDN speeds. Meaning images load very slowly. But I can still post and get updates for threads pretty quickly. It continues to work even when websites like google, amazon and the other big websites that maintain local cache servers at my ISP's head end do not.

2) 4chan continues to function when all other websites are down due to mass outages

I've seen this happened twice in the last few years. I can't remember the exact date off the top of my head but it was around the time of the 2020 election in America. There was a mass outage at 12am-4am EDT one night. Everything was offline from cloudflare to youtube and even google's search. It was so odd that I was checking every large website I could think of to verify their status.

4chan continued to work. Well 4/g/ continued to work as I was lurking it at the time. The strange thing was it only seemed to be a handful of us that could get messages through. I ended up in a thread with 4 or 5 other people talking about the outage and relaying information. I thought it would be big news the next day because it was the largest outage of internet services I had seen since about 2002 or so. But the next morning there wasn't a peep about it on any tech websites or in the media. A couple of us tried to post threads on 4/g/ the next day in an attempt to figure out what had happened. But they would get instantly deleted by moderation.

I still wonder if it was some kind of cyber attack.


Check your basement, you may be living with a CIA server room.


AI and Cloudflare: two of my least favorite things, helping each other make life worse.


nonsense, there is no such server room


Anon.cafe is shutting down.


A two months advanced notice is really good. Practically unheard of, really. A shame for the loss, but that's a lot of time to make plans, exchange info, register domains, and so on. If only every imageboard disappearance had such a grace period we'd be able to fight off entropy just a little bit better.
I hope they can all find a place they enjoy. (and I guess it's a good time for people to extend welcomes to any related boards)


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Is /cutieromance/ kissu related?


I can tell you why, at the very least, the PC building general thread on /g/ was being spammed ad nauseam with misspelled words from archived posts by some angry autist with a captcha solver and the mods and janitors couldn't ban his proxies well enough. There could've been similar threads elsewhere but I only knew because I got banned wrongfully because I posted inside one of the threads to give advice.
My first appeal was rejected probably because I used a throwaway email account from cock.li and they ignored my well written appeal about how my IP was not a bot. I had to burn my alternative Github account to show I was a real person with a public private key combo on a Gist for my 2nd appeal which is a bit cringe and probably not why they unbanned me. But they did it on December 17-18 or so which was probably an indication they had decided to use Cloudflare to tackle the issue at that point.

Anyways, it was honestly a good thing because I got to actually browse altchans which I haven't done since before the pandemic in 2018 and see how things have shaken out. I haven't posted in many even before that point since I was a relatively late 4chan poster starting in 2009 or so but I decided I wanted to take a shot to do more on seeing better change and thinking how 4chan has changed for the worst after seeing you guys here and Henyuri and wanting to keep some of that alive today. I didn't feel comfortable posting until I lurked more though which is why you are only seeing this now. I will probably still browse 4chan but hoping to switch that over more to altchans if possible for deeper thoughts and discussions.


if you last browsed altchans in 2018 I wonder if you browsed 8chan before it was shut down. remember when the autistic furfag Bui spammed all of 8chan with short posts of random characters? I wonder if it was the same guy here. If not him then maybe that 'ecker guy from 2chen.


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tshit got owned so hard in monhun that he deleted gn and sold the domain and deleted his twitch account


absolute pwnage


Went to ota to see the aftermath and saw 2 cp threads on the front page great job as always shitmin


Oh, wow. His Twich's still there though, see the last VOD:
>killing the dinosaurs then killing my babysitter gig
He decides to do it right at 2:36:00.
lol'd@that nick


he does this every other month


he apparently has to offboard as an affiliate before he can delete the channel


I did but it was shit in my opinion because they clearly aimed and targeted and encouraged the worst posters to move. I rechecked out 420chan and 7chan but they didn't appeal that much to me because they focused more to the normal oldfags. That furfag poster does sound like one of those vile people that would move over to 8chan but I don't think it was him or the other person mentioned that spammed on /g/. He was just some autist or underage with money that didn't like the thread maker for the general or had something against that thread only. It didn't leak elsewhere but it was annoying especially since I got banned.


>spammed ad nauseam with misspelled words from archived posts by some angry autist
>ban his proxies
That's the accelespammer script Or rather how it worked. Pulls posts from the archive to blend in while avoiding regex filtering, and posts using multiple proxies so even if the mods do ban a single post all the others were made on different IPs stay up.
4mods really can't stand not being able to hit two buttons to make all the posts go away. Hunting down 12 proxies making 80 posts makes them mad and sloppy because they just want to go back to pressing two buttons.


It was probably a variant since captcha did kill the script. But captcha solving has gotten really good and just using experimental ML models that do OCR from like 5 years ago is enough to achieve human-level accuracy. That's why for a while, reCaptcha changed to the whole identify traffic and etc. to train Google's internal vision model for driving. Google jacking up the price and introducing v3 which used more heuristics instead probably prompted 4chan to move away from it.
Really, the new capchas weren't bad. But the thing that made the whole spamming semi-possible was the usage of specialized models just to solve the new captchas as a userscript even with the sliders which was introduced by Automatic1111 who also made the stable-diffusion-webui everyone basically uses now to generate images. For the longest time after he started the latter project and he stopped updating the solver script, you could not say his name on /g/ due to his userscript until he stopped hosting it.
In any case, the new captchas with the whole black white section with sliders only help a little bit but the captcha solvers already have enough information to solve them. I would say that Cloudflare's captcha and backend services are doing more here to stop scripts than the change to the captchas themselves based on that. We'll see how long the pricing holds out to help out small websites but it sucks that CF is now basically a cartel because of this shit. It shouldn't need to be a given when you run a website that you need DDOS protection and have to pay protection money once you hit a certain size. Modern society sucks.


I find ti kind of hard to believe that a casino/gambling spam site came up with a logo for GNFOS, but it's definitely a unique spin on his normal gag, either true or false.


>This is likely being done to combat the ubiquitous use of captcha solvers on mobile apps and more speculatively, to combat bots. This comes after the in house captcha has been updated at least twice in the last month, updates that proved insufficient to combat the solvers.
There has been a cloudflare check before loading captcha ever since recaptcha (or whatever google calls it now, since it has nothing do do with reading anymore) was discontinued with the 4chan slider captcha in its place. It's just that now the cloudflare check is (slightly) more aggressive.

Also it has no effect on using captcha solvers



>no effect
They're trying to use the cloudfare js blobs to check for solvers. They've gone through multiple iterations already and briefly broke the site for regular users.
It's not nothing.


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The iconic Longcat photo turned 20.


How does this work? Some sort of telemetry?


https://developers.cloudflare.com/bots/reference/javascript-detections/ no idea what an invisible javascript snippet is, but I suppose they're using this tooling


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And Yotsuba&! turned 21 yesterday.


Yotsuba&! is one of those weird things that feels like it's always existed at some non-determinant point in time, never becoming an "old" manga while obviously not being new.


I feel like people have a tendency to associate the age of a manga with when it got an anime adaptation, so something like Yotsubato which never got one feels comparatively timeless. For example, I feel like most people would struggle to pin a manga like Uzumaki down to even the correct decade, would not think of Vinland Saga as at all old despite it having started nearly 20 years ago, and are surprised by how 'classic' series like Black Lagoon and Ichigo Mashimaro are still ongoing.


>Black Lagoon and Ichigo Mashimaro are still ongoing
Only by pure technicality.


Did Black Lagoon become shit? I heard one of the recent arcs was badm but I haven't kept up with up in a long time.


It just didn't release for a long time, then gave an okay arc, then seems to have stopped again. I guess it's better than Ichigo, but it's hard to consider them current manga when they're barely releasing new chapters.

Another example would be HxH, which is technically more current than, say, Kimetsu even though the latter started and ended without the former releasing a single chapter.


You might as well say the same about Yotsuba&, which has only released four volumes since the start of 2013 (the same as Black Lagoon and one more than Ichigo Mashimaro). HxH has released five in that time, but I'd consider that way worse, considering it is supposed to be a weekly series, whereas the others were only ever monthly.
>then seems to have stopped again.
The latest volume released just last month. There's also a 7+ volume spin-off that started in 2020 and a 3+ volume one that started in 2022, both of which are getting regular releases, although I have no idea if they're any good.
>Another example would be HxH, which is technically more current than, say, Kimetsu even though the latter started and ended without the former releasing a single chapter.
No? HxH released 40 chapters while KY was running. HxH did have a 4 year hiatus, but that didn't begin until halfway through KY's run.


Hidamari Sketch too, last I checked.


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Great news, now they only need to let the punishment fit the crime.


I spent a bit of time the other day arguing with all the bloodthirsty X users talking about it that the arsonist was basically already burnt to death; the doctors had to go to great efforts to keep him from dying of severe burns thanks to the way he just sloppily tossed gasoline everywhere.


im thirster i thirst


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drink thirster


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I had one of those when I was in Japan. Pretty overrated if you ask me.


Yeah, may as well finish the job now that he's been served due process.




bloodthirsty shab just bit me


Interesting thread about the malicious CP bots that have been targeting imageboards and related communities for years.


probably fanfiction. I'm pretty sure I already know what they're about but I'll check their donut steel.


From my observations over the years the OP has no inaccuracies, which I am honestly surprised by because I've become accustomed to conspiracy theories about this stuff. The later part of that thread is what I've come to expect and it is actively detrimental to actual beneficial discussion, unfortunately making boards more susceptible to it. If OP is still in that thread after it was destroyed so utterly I would be surprised. The neocities site seems really useful!
The guy really does know what he's talking about.

-Eastern Europe/Russian in origin: Yes
-Hits the top post in index or top board on the side/top alphabetically: Yes
-Done manually: Yes
-Profit-driven: Seems that way
-Patterns from different individuals at different times, seemingly replaced over time: Yes
-Multiple imageboards at the same time: Yes

Illegal content is indeed something that had been weaponized among the 8chan remnant sites, but I don't consider that stuff to be spam in the traditional sense so I consider it unrelated to this.


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/b/ started falling below the levels of activity it had in 2007. It's crazy to think it was so active back in 2008-2009. It had DOUBLE /pol/'s current activity.


Who is the audience for /b/ these days aside from lolicon


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I took a quick look at it for research purposes and it's basically the 3DPD version of /trash/ aside from the loli and shota threads, with some sprinkles of /pol/shit and blogposting here and there. /trash/ by contrast is stable/rising in activity over the years. 4chan as a whole is going down in activity however.


It pisses me off that someone scooped up the name "trashchan" for a site that has nothing to do with /trash/. Out of all the boards that don't have a prominent spinoff, /trash/ is probably the one that needs it the most.


/trash/ is like /vg/, a miniature imageboard where each general is its own mini-board that operates independently from the rest. A spin-off of /trash/ would be a topicless imageboard with open board creation.
Besides, most of /trash/'s generals are spin-offs of communities originated from another part of 4chan or already have a Discord (often advertised in the OP of the generals), forum or imageboard dedicated to their topic.


/trash/ is a board for ERP. Pretty much all the liveposting boards have spaces for this. And that shit doesn't belong on imageboards anyway, it only took root on 4chan after Hiro created a board specifically for all the shitposting that had been successfully repressed by users for a decade.


I never had a moment where I stamped my feet and decided 'that's it the cancer won' with /b/. It's just the thread churn rate was so insane it wasn't worth posting anymore when that thread would be gone in two minutes.
At least that's the way I remember it. Now I cry about general threads not really being threads. It all comes full circle.


/b/ was ultimately done in by board splitting. Everything that was actually interesting on /b/ eventually either given its own dedicated board as with /tg/, or was siphoned off to another, lower traffic general purpose board like /r9k/ where it had more room to breath.

There really hasn't been any good reason to post anything to /b/ since the mid-2010s. It survived off of inertia for a while, with newfags coming in who knew 4chan solely because of /b/, but that inertia started to wear off a while ago.


That was always the appeal of /b/ for me. You could just refresh page 0 and it would be something completely different than it was five minutes ago. I miss the feeling of jumping into the unknown and reading about some topic I never expected to find discussion of. It was like the perfect place for satisfying that "I'm bored, let's talk about something" feeling. /v/ is probably the only board on any chan that even comes close to that, but it's still a far cry from old /b/. The decline into an irrelevant porn board for people too dumb to post on the proper board is depressing and probably at the source of a lot of 4chan's current culture problems.


I think what really killed the inertia in the end was that it was overtaken as the site's entryway by /pol/ during the election.
/b/ of course had some oldfags, but more than any other board it ran on newcomers discovering how the site operated.


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>/v/ is probably the only board on any chan that even comes close to that, but it's still a far cry from old /b/
This might be the remnants of the era where people indeed treated /v/ like it was the new /b/, back in 2011-2012 I believe. It had little moderation and was full of random off-topic threads during that time. I have no idea how /v/ is right now though, haven't used that board in over a decade.


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this isn't a happening at all but there's no /nah/ - not a happening thread up and I don't think this deserves its own thread.

I got my IP address range blocked for evading once lol


Outside of the handful of designated threads like this one and the blog thread Kissu is very anti-general. If you think your post doesn't belong in an existing thread, by all means make a new thread for it, no matter how simple it may be.


I wonder how "large" the IP range is and how many mobile posters I fucked over with my stunt. I kinda regret it now, since it probably affected other people...
I feel bad for making a new thread for what's essentially a shitpost. I miss when /nah/ was a thing. maybe I'll make a thread for it next time.


/nah/ doesn't really need to exist when the blog thread exists


fair enough. I guess I will post there from on. thanks.


I have never had a region ban, but region blocks can be circumvented by buying a pass. (I guess that region bans cannot)
I too got a bunch of bans for ban evading. When I told the moderation team that I wasn't in fact ban-evading (and the 3-day-wait was a pretty convincing argument), they often unbanned me and region blocked me instead.

But ever since Hiro took over, I have refused to buy passes.


I once got my IP blocked in the original /qa/ for reporting legitimate spam. if you can evade, I say go for it.


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Wow. That's really unexpected.


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Of course there are threads in spanish.


/dbs/CHADS rule this board



fucking ainz wank...


It's just shitposting. If somebody were honestly trying to advertise the super isekai MC powerlevel, they'd go with somebody like Yogiri, or Ruphas Maphal, or some cultivator.
I speculate that originally, it was just meant to mock powerlevel discussions within the context of Overlord. But the way it's being spammed nowadays, I doubt it has any purpose beyond annoyance.


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I don't know how long it's been like this, but warosu is currently down at the host level.




4chan removed the IP counter at the thread stats


You don't actually really even need the feature if you have a good culture in the first place but 4chan has not had that in some time for most boards. What it was useful for was being able to assess the quality of a thread somewhat quickly through reading a post and checking to see if it was worth engaging but people misused it as the only indication of thread quality. Now you have to do it the old fashioned way without that. This bodes really badly for post quality, I expect it to further decline with a lot of samefag posting and for shilling/marketing to increase a lot on boards with heavy traffic.
Some of the speculation seems to be revolving around people paying Hiromoot to disable it but I find that highly unlikely since it would be cheaper to advertise the proper way with ads. The other one is a possible selling of the website and disabling unique IDs is one way to juice metrics by not having up to date data. That sounds more likely to me but historical data for something like this is still a strong metric.


>Some of the speculation seems to be revolving around people paying Hiromoot to disable it but I find that highly unlikely since it would be cheaper to advertise the proper way with ads.
Anyone who seriously wants to hide samefagging actually has an easier time of it with the IP counter than without. Getting fresh IPs is easy. I have seen anons who got a new IP with every single post they made in an active discussion.
That's actually a pretty good reason to remove the feature.


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Thinking about it a bit more deeply, I don't think it's necessarily easier, per say, but you can get people who leaned on it too much to engage with the thread. People also were starting to game the metric like you said and it has been used too much to derail or put attention to the wrong thing in the thread too. Its usefulness was waning but it was still nice to have for people who could use it effectively and I think it will be a net negative in the short term. Also, from IRC, it seems like the change is final and the staff will never divulge why it happened.


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>staff will never divulge why it happened
How shocking.


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It does seem odd for them to just remove it out of the blue with no explanation. The possibility of Hiro preparing to sell the site is certainly more likely now. He's clearly trying to distance himself from it and thinks it's too much of a burden, specially after he was asked to attend in court over stuff related to /pol/.


What I am surprised at is how Hiro wasn't bothered until now about this and how he managed to escape court appearances up ever since the Fappening, you would think it would be more common especially after 2016. It is probably true though that he has most likely not been too pleased with the website not generating the profit he envisioned when he brought it off moot but he has been very hands off since he brought it and his initial involvement 1-2 years after the sale. But apathy sometimes is better than malicious involvement and I am not ruling out the latter if the website gets sold again.


Back then he at least tried to communicate with the userbase, mostly through /qa/. Now he's pretty much a ghost.

>What I am surprised at is how Hiro wasn't bothered until now about this and how he managed to escape court appearances up ever since the Fappening
Just like how he avoided court in Japan; by moving to another country. The last time I heard about him he was living in France. Not sure if he still does.


>It does seem odd for them to just remove it out of the blue with no explanation.
Most of the team has been under a gag order for a long time now, and after his initial introduction, Hiro too quickly turned quiet.
I think he was trying to evade responsibility that way.
>But apathy sometimes is better than malicious involvement
While that is theoretically true, I would describe this as malicious apathy. I don't think he was genuinely uninvolved, but rather actively tried to raise the click-rate. Twitter and facebook taught the world that angry people spend a lot of time with the stuff that makes them angry.
The claim that everything is politicized now and you can't escape it, that is so often brought up, is, in light of the fact, that the controversy is literally in the financial interest of community owners, highly suspect.
I believe of moot that he honestly (and incompetently) opposed its spillover. Of Hiro, I suspect the opposite.


Yeah, it was only ever good for calling out OPs who samefaged their own threads, but the shills and shitposting autists who do that all have mobile IPs anyway and on boards like /a/ they just shamelessly self-bump because nobody is going to stop them and you'll be forced to use their general thread if you want to talk about the subject at all. I guess it makes it even more obvious when a thread is a massive circlejerk, but again there's no benefit to knowing that when they have mod protection.

This. The malware ads, the rangebans, the board splits, the changes in moderator behavior, they're all ways for Hiro to wring more money out of the site. It's not just political stuff, it's anything that generates lots of activity that gets encouraged. If it were just apathy he'd still allow mods to communicate with the users to explain what's going on and help guide the community in a less shitposty direction. He keeps them quiet because he has them acting against the interest of the users. In this regard, being openly malicious would be better since it would drive people to leave for places run by people who actually give a fuck about having a healthy community.


>In this regard, being openly malicious would be better since it would drive people to leave for places run by people who actually give a fuck about having a healthy community.
do you think that'd even happen?
do you really think those guys would leave?
they never will


4chan moderation transparency is just abysmal and sometimes on the rare occasions they do act they do it haphazardly. My experience is just with /jp/ though. Vtubers hit board culture really hard and you can't speak out about it because mods hand out warnings and bans, then there's a handful of crossboarder generals that make up the rest of the fast paced threads on what otherwise would be a slow board. 3DPD is also an issue but that's more a personal gripe. If it wasn't for Touhou and a couple good gem threads like the guy or two hosting games or GTA:SA twice a year I would've left it completely. I just don't see how removing features that help users self moderate is supposed to help, and I'm inclined to believe you when you say it's deliberate to act against the interest of users.


>4chan moderation transparency is just abysmal
It comes down to moot's idea to make moderators anonymous and then moot positioned himself as the avenue of public comment. One of the last things moot did before leaving was to take away every mod's capcode. Every time you see "Anonymous ##mod" post it's either one of 4chan's actual sysadmins, or a moderator that has received a special one time use capcode from those sysadmins.

Once moot left 4chan lost its frontman so all that's leftover is the policy of the anonymous opaque moderators. No public face.


Proofs? I'm fairly sure mods still posted with some regularity after moot left. There wasn't even an admin for almost a year in between. The radio silence policy only came on after Hiro had time to implement the transition to a behind-the-scenes, (nominally) rules-based moderation system.


I'd have to dig it up but the info comes from A-San's /qa/ and /a/ rant in 2016 when he was fired for the last time.


The capcode thing is news to me, but I'm pretty sure I remember moot talking about making the moderation team invisible in one of his 4chan updates. I can't find it, but I am pretty sure that he forbade them from even identifying themselves as mods within a post body.
That's why modcat sent out messages via warnings, and that's why he got banned.


One of the things I remember A-san saying in the end is that mods were tiered. You needed very strong seniority to post with a capcode. Essentially you had to be promoted after years of moderation the way a janitor would become a mod, leading to a clique within a clique within a clique. (The other thing he pointed out is that the camaraderie was largely missing when he returned in 2016)
/pol/ has the most mod posts by a large margin within the past 8 or so years, which makes sense when you consider swaglord and rapeape are both keenly interested in the board. I think /g/ has fission that occasionally posts as a mod and does CSS stuff while ABIB does similarly on /v/. Mod stuff seems significantly more rare elsewhere apart from grandfather'd /a/ stuff and famous deaths.
Of course all these names are only known because of IRC. It could be other people are involved, but we'd never know.


/sp/ also got a number of fun things during World Cup, but I'm not sure how much of that is present for less important tournaments/games. At least one mod listens to r/a/dio and did CSS shenanigans a couple years ago, but I sort of feel like he's one of the guys who comes back just for that because all the other mod activity there is very minimal and often belated. Christmas Carol being a rolling sticky was so retarded you have to think the guy who did it had no idea what he was stickying.


Honestly, I think that /a/ (and to a lesser degree, other boards as well) at this point can only die a slow death anymore.
Newcomers will recognize that the site is mechanically not supportive of its functionality and go elsewhere instead. As the board loses relevance in the overall anime scene, even oldfags will first browse secondary communities before switching main and secondary community.
I can imagine a few of the more incestuous sub-communities holding out for much longer. But they can't realistically recruit new members when the board around them is a wasteland.


Some new kuso documentary about 4chan is coming out soon


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3 seconds in and I am already laughing.


That is fucking embarrassing holy shit


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o i'm laffin


I have no words.
I tried to, but I don't.


Yep we're redpilling normies hard with this one! Praise Kek!


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Of course, it HAD to start with that infamous CNN line.


It really sounds like a bunch of newfags that were drawn to 4chan by politics, masturbating over how influential they are now that they are Anonymous.


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It's a shame they didn't include the exploding van.


I don't think it's that bad... It looks kinda ironic to me? You know, it's deliberately using lines from infamous reports on 4chan. Not to say that it will be perfect, but it does seem well-researched. They've got some guys from the 2000s chanosphere like Kirtaner apparently? Can't be that bad.


It's just the trailer. You can still hold out hope for the full documentary.


Kirtlaner is there and I think I hear hotwheels which means they at least reached out to people tangentially involved instead of the usual "culture consultants" or whatever you call those internet experts who don't actually know anything. Although those are two people that love to hear themselves talk and will make things sound extremely dramatic to make themselves sound important.
Also that MIGHT be snacks with the blurred face and the hat, but I don't really know what he looks like now.

It's going to suck, but probably less than people expect it to since they did the bare minimum.


you're supposed to just instinctively hate it because imageboards are simultaneous not important and worth a lot of time investment.


>imageboards are [] not important
And to me this is a critical problem with the trailer. It attempts to paint 4chan as very important, and describes the rest of the internet as being 4channified.


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I'm calling you a hypocrite for hating on the concept of reporting and documentary.

what's this refering to


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What? Is this recent? Where did you get it from? I knew he was asked to testify in court but this seems different.


notararies are informal lawyers who handle civil record taking for clients. It's not a court thing. But from the looks of things he's doing an on record statement for court relating to something he's not showing up for


the tops shooting lawsuit
4chan, and a ton of other social media companies were denied dismissal from a product liability lawsuit
so hiro testify
and they requested a ton of information, and they'll likely get it, through 'discovery'
then probably more requests


I see
>The suit is a test of the limits of Section 230, a law that has long shielded internet platforms from lawsuits over content posted by their users. The plaintiffs are 25 survivors of the shooting, who are represented by the legal group Everytown Law, which specializes in gun safety litigation.
Axe this kuso section already. It does no good for society


would be funny if the next yanitor leak is from the lawsuit
>as requested, janiteamlogz.txt


It does a lot of good for the internet as we know it. If it did not exist, platforms would be held liable for the content posted on it, the same I'm sure as vermin must contend with obeying Canadian law.


That's kind of the whole reason they've roped in Hiro, apparently. They want to hold 4chan liable for the posts on it, and extract damages or otherwise shut down the website for the content posted on it. The internet as we know it would look very different without Section 230. If you hate the pandering websites already must do to appease advertisers, I hate to imagine what the internet would look like if, suppose PeTA could harass some website into shutting down through continual lawsuits, for example.


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lmao, they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfags. Have they never seen pics of a meetup? I guess the reality of the site wouldn't help push their obvious political agenda, though.

Just because it would tear down the big sites overnight doesn't mean it wouldn't impact small ones too. Do you want every post you make on any site to get held for review before a mod decides it's safe to let through? Where they make those decisions in a state of fear for their livelihoods?


Section 230 is what allows websites like Kissu to exist in the first place. Smaller imageboards do not have the same resources to defend themselves against legal challenges that larger websites have. What you are doing is proposing a world in which only larger websites exist because smaller ones do not have the capital to defend themselves with no legal mechanism to protect them.

Deleting particular content and deleting illegal content are very different things. One is an ethical consideration and the other is a legal consideration. I do not think that websites should be bullied by the threat of litigation on the sheer basis of having reprehensible content.

Section 230 has no qualifications on size of platform. By definition, repealing or weakening it would disproportionately affect smaller sites.


Section 230 does not exist in Canada or for Canadian run websites.


>hating on the concept of reporting and documentary.
Not sure what gave you the impression.


Contrarianism is the foundation of imageboard culture.


>they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfags
That's what they look like, or rather one form they can take. People on the internet in the 90s and early 00s were huge dorks. Stuff people associate with tumblr or reddit often started before those sites even existed. To say those people look like tumblr is like saying people on 2005 4chan talk like redditors. You have to flip it around.

I think getting people that want to talk about this on TV naturally selects a certain type of person, though. Kirt probably tells his dentist that he personally created Anonymous while his mouth is full and hotwheels has a severe case of troll's remorse, so they're not exactly everyday users. Coincidentally the former gave/sold 420chan to the latter and it's still dead.


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>they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfags
>That's what they look like, or rather one form they can take.
Snacks looks a fair bit like them I suppose (guy on the right). But he's also a DJ a DJs tend to look more 'alternative'.

I've been using 4chan since late 2007 and I don't really look like this though. I'm just a pale hikki of average height and weight with longish hair. I don't consider myself 'oldfag' though, just thought it could be relevant since someone in that video said "fifteen years ago".


There's a difference between huge dorks who want everyone to know how much of a huge dork they are and huge dorks who don't want to stand out. Anonymity has always been more attractive to the type of person who prefers to hide their powerlevel, even if some fail to do so well.


4chan posters are and have always been tryhards


I am pretty sure this is just sample bias.
In order to feature in a documentary, you have to volunteer for the job. (Probably) after being reached out to, because you are a well-known entity in the scene.


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I guess so, but who the hell is that woman with blue hair and septum-piercing? The dude with the faggy multicolored hair is apparently Kirtainer (the 420chan founder). He looks like those twitch streamers like ninja or something. They also do this thing of dyeing their hair in weird colors. Makes sense since he's a drugnorm. I had never cared about 420chan and I only saw a photo of him when he was younger, so I had no idea what he looked like now. The 'alternative' imageboard I browsed back then was 7chan instead. I sure hope no one related to it is in that stupid documentary. I don't know much about their founders.


>and they'll likely get it, through 'discovery'
Thought that had already happened. Or was another case responsible for the wired article screeching about good smile?


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Has anyone noticed that there was a happenings thread moved to 4/qa/ recently? I wonder if this is a sign of them getting ready to unlock the board to discuss stuff related to Hiro/4chan. It would need to be heavily moderated if they don't want it to turn to chaos again.


if you check the thread you'll notice that it was just some mild silliness. Don't think /qa/ is coming back any time soon.


As per unofficial happenings thread rules, people can have their pointless bickering but it gets removed after a few days have passed so the thread is more focused on happenings.


it seems as if the activity levels of a lot of boards are dropping. is this a good thing? are the chinz finally dead?


Good thing because 4chan is better off dead than in its sorry state right now. Bad thing because altchans such as this one will also suffer.


Wtf the options field bugged or something. I'm not copypasting anything there.


If 4chan dies, alts will get a lot of new users and through them become more culturally distinct from each other, which is a good thing.


The team camaraderie is pretty much dead. There is no mod tiering, but capcode posts need to be approved before they are made. Using a capcode to speak individually is strongly discouraged, as is anything other than youtube embeds. The handful of mods that use the embeds often are kind of viewed as morons anyway.


Wapchan has deployed "the great firewall", blocking all datacenter and VPN traffic in an effort to stop the spread of CP on the site. It seems to be working.


They want to be even more dead? Why not simply moderate the site better? This likely won't solve the issue anyway. I see those cp bots on 4chan all the time now and nearly all VPNs are blocked there.


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People should just adopt the freebie mindset.
It wasn't your fault you saw it.
No crime committed.
It was a freebie.


That's difficult to do when the law is written and enforced by old fogeys who don't understand the internet.
The saucenao guy got into trouble because an anti CP organization uploaded CP imagery to his website and then found the CP imagery they had just uploaded.
If the survival of your site depends on you answering accusations in time and explaining "no, that wasn't me. And it's gone now!" then you want a second layer of protection.


Can you stop going on about this crazy and unsubstantiated rumour. and the people writting internet legislation are average at it nowadays. Not good not bad. Maybe malicious though


Those bots have moved on to using residential IP addresses. There are a few VPN services that offer them. Impossible to control without banning most of your real users.

The only solution is changing the laws concerning data. All data should be treated like speech and be free.


where the april fools


22chan for whatever reason deleted all boards and set up a joke /pol/ board for april fools


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4chan's April Fools this year seems to be a heavily /biz/ focused one, with a pseudo-stock market and it's pretty neat. Better than the last one.



It was like there was no april fools at all on any of the other boards with people barely even using the tickers for post effects, but on /biz/ you can't even see the normal /biz/ threads because it's pretty much all Yotsuba Stock Exchange shitposting. As a /biz/ regular this has been a weird day. I decided to just read manga instead of participate. I get a bigger kick out of shitcoins with real money.



I'm 100% sure it's not possible to post even with 1 millon $CHAD based on there being basically no posts. Meidos manipulating the Yotsuba Stock Exchange to profit off of the uneducated masses. Shocking.
I'd be surprised if they don't just leave it there after the event as a small memory to mess with people.


It's probably possible, but you can only buy 1000 of a stock at a time, and even then you can only fill an order once every 10 seconds. Assuming you have infinite funds you'd need to spend 3 hours alone just filling out orders to buy enough to post.


so practically nobody but mods are able to do it


The thread? Probably as long as the other threads there. It's probably a severe vulnerability to allow this thing to bypass moderation controls like that so it will only remain a silly moved thread with a mod post.


It's impossible, I tested.


you had 1million chad? how long did you spend attaining it?


The thread was moved. it's a heat-of-the-moment prank
get pranked nerds


It's fine but it's also like 4 years too late at this point to be relevant.


not really, crypto's been having somewhat of a resurgence after something happened with the ftc or whatever


/v/ has had a fair number of threads playing off the joke and /a/ has a couple Ayaya ones + a meta "how shit is this" one. I don't think it's very good to begin with, but the whole "turn off ublock and 4chanX or you can't participate" pretty much ensures the majority wouldn't engage with it even if it were better integrated into the actual boards. It's probably just incompetence, but I don't trust Hiro to not use every opportunity to profit off of users.


The majority of modern 4chan doesn't even know about adblockers.
And when you bring up 4chanX in threads, people respond with real fear of 3rd party applications.


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It's amazing how /v/ always finds a way to turn april fool's events into a form of gay/loli roleplay: https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/672049481



not long enough for me to see what it was




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not only was gnfos sold off to a turkish gambling site
but apparently it was then seized by the turkish government or something and now redirects to a page about legal turkish gambling sites
what a hilarious end


heheh that's pretty good


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A joke that went too far.


Frenschan seemingly ran out of money and shut down. Good riddance.


It's out now. Lots of people have netflix and it's probably already uploaded somewhere by now.


Not dignifying netflix or the team that made this with my time for what i know will be some half truths and outright lies woven together just to force their desired viewpoint onto me.


keep your echo chamber and idealized version of reality then


Would probably be watchable in a stream format where we can rip on it if it's bad.


¥using the phrase echo chamber in 2024


holier than thou?


>their list of friends are 5 honeypot sites made in wordpress, 2 honeypot telegram channels, two telegram channels owned by them and the fucking soytard site
oh wow


So it was some /pol/tard site then? So yeah, it makes sense that it closed because /pol/ keeps losing more and more influence on 4chan and the web in general.


>it was some /pol/tard site then?
Yes. It was almost exclusively targeted at /pol/tards:


>/pol/ keeps losing more and more influence on 4chan and the web in general.
Are you sure about that?
It feels like /a/ has more politically flavored threads than ever. They are just subversive. It's not Trump in the OP, it's discussions on the medium getting "pozzed" or censored to death or that we need to discuss the new gender roles because Fern insulted Stark in this one panel, or what the "recent" inclusion of dark-skinned characters into anime means for us as a society...
At the same time, there is a surge in people telling "pedophiles" to kill themselves (in threads dedicated to series with girls in the 14+ age range). If it's all in jest, the joke is lost on me.


What have they done to warrant any other response


We didn't start the fire.


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I don't use that shithole for anything besides some manga threads (due to lack of better options). It doesn't really matter anyway because 4/a/ is also dying (even harder than /pol/ in fact) and bleeding users every day despite anime becoming more popular. It is a testament to modern 4chan failing to capture a younger audience and the older users slowly abandoning the board over time.


That doesn't sound very new, there's been fearmongering about this forever
>At the same time, there is a surge in people telling "pedophiles" to kill themselves (in threads dedicated to series with girls in the 14+ age range).

Really, political threads are the least of /a/'s issues and are often a nice break from the monotony of generals


I didn't say it was new. I said there was an unusual amount of it.

It's not even about capturing a younger audience. It's about failing to hold itself together. It's the loss of the oldfags that really hurts the board because without their culture, there's no appeal to the community.


>an unusual amount of it
Well, the last time I checked out /a/ I told a blacked poster to go away and got warned for being "off-topic" while the post I was responding to got to stay up until the thread died, so I'm going to chalk this up to the mods actively trying to kill the board like usual. If you give zero-effort trolling a pass while simultaneously cracking down on gatekeeping, it's obvious what the end result will be.


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>that we need to discuss the new gender roles because Fern insulted Stark in this one panel
A similar thing happened during DitF and Konosuba, this is to bait posters with the traits into replying. But I haven't used /a/ since then.
Personally I've seen an equal number of discussions about whether her making comments like that is fat fetish fuel or not


Honestly there's almost no point to be on 4/a/ anymore unless your thing is just, just, popular enough to get a thread or two without instantly getting bumped off page 10. Because if I like something like Frieren then it just gets a god awful 24/7 general spun up for it and I would rather watch the show by myself at that point than breathe the same air as the people who camp out in threads like that for 6 months.


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It's only useful for manga because the alternatives are simply too slow to have proper manga discussion/dumps. And the only non-imageboard alternative for that seems to be reddit and that's just... no for me.


Yeah but very few manga get talked about on 4/a/ so I just stick with the mangadex forum for what it's worth


Mangadex doesn't have much 'discussion' though. It's mostly just people asking "where the hell is the translation", "when is the next chapter coming out" "what happened to the scan group", etc.


Very late but the entirety of the website seems to be that way at this point, it's not a problem exclusive towards /a/. I went on there for mango as well but the general "twitter" user mindset of newer anons truly got under my skin when I was feeling way too emotional that day, even for someone who rarely goes on there at all.
I wonder if the dead discussions on bakaupdates are any better lol.


dumb twittards


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A meido on /biz/ is attempting to enforce email verification to post on 4chan.

Users of the board are not happy with this and see it for the transparent bullshit that it is.
Although it may not be a success and potentially reverted if even implemented in the first place, it's extremely indicative of the kind of people that run the site now that they see no issue with this in the first place and go to a "trust, but verify" board and expect people to "trust" that they will not store the email long term as per their own claims which cannot be verified and are obviously bullshit.
If this goes through and is deemed a success by the meidos, expect other boards to get similar treatments in the future, potentially even a sitewide measure.
This to me feels like a pivotal moment in 4chan history with a possible point of no return if they don't change course. User registration will be a thing down the line, they're dipping their toes in the water.


4chan is testing out an email verification system on /biz/ soon:
https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/58388587 / https://warosu.org/biz/thread/58388587
I can't claim to have any experience with it, but my assumption is that you can't separate all the chicanery and spam from a board about crypto and ARGH THAT GUY JUST BEAT ME TO THE POST HERE


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So will we get:
a) a completely dead board as everybody just makes /biz/ threads on /b/ and also every other board with traffic.
b) a board where no real users are willing to jump through the hoops for and all that's left is shills shilling to shills.
c) the dawn of the new 4chan mods have dreamed of where every poster has to verify their phone number to post, bans actually do something, and every ounce of the site's culture and ideology are washed away by the tide of twitterification and the site can finally join the modern internet. Hiro buys a new yacht with all the pass (and purged email address) sales.

Personally, I'm looking forward to a future where I have to explain to teens that 4chan didn't always have accounts. People accepted the existence of /vip/ and from4chanpass even though they blatantly go against the ideals of the community and with "spam" being the reason they can easily apply this to every other board once people accept it here. The sooner they kill the site off the better.


/biz/ is full of scammers trying to sell pump and dumps.
I wouldn't exactly be shocked if 4chan was getting letters or advice from lawyers about potential issues with the SEC soon


/biz/ is my main board. The scammers are not that big of an issue, they are blatantly obvious and a lot of us actually like making fun of them and telling them to get fucked. This will only result in less posters on an already dying board. We already risk being banned just for talking about crypto, that is a far bigger issue than any spam there. It's ridiculous. We even had tourist meidos come in and shit on us during the last cycle. Most of the people moderating /biz/ aren't even /biz/fags, they're just meidos for other boards forced to interact with /biz/ which results in the most ridiculous bans.

This entire thing is just a bullshit excuse to do something they always wanted to do.


there's no way that 4chan would do something unless they were told to


"something" as in get the devs to implement a feature of email verifications... because mods can do random things


What anons here are saying is that this is a monetizing feature.


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So in a relatively short timespan they:
- Got rid of 4channel and merged it back into 4chan
- Got rid of the IP counter
- And now this

They're trying to cook something, but I can't quite tell what it is yet. Perhaps Hiro is preparing to sell the site and is making all of these changes beforehand?


¥ Conspiracy
It's always about trying to cut costs/time investment/risk.


Unrelated, but /biz/ has the worst catalog in all of 4chan, holy shit. It's nothing but frogs and cancerman. Seems nothing changed the last time I looked at it.


My strategy is to open every single thread with an anime picture in the OP and ignore everything else. We get a few threads a day to look at. Everything is garbage, but it's our garbage.


These large image boards are businesses. Hiro took up a major loan from multiple investors in order to buy it. Cutting costs/reducing risks is fine. But for a business to make sense, it must make profit.


>/biz/ is my main board
that just sounds thoroughly awful man, sorry


le smuggé girlé

Oh boy.......
Here we go again.............

They will never break my /qa/ spirit!


heh, got my e-mail right here for them ¬‿¬


It made me a wealthy neet in 2021. The anime picture strategy makes it somewhat worthwhile, though I do scan for news as well. I spend more time talking about anime and lolis than crypto. I like being a misfit who is hated by most of the board. It brings all us anime underdogs together.


>I spend more time talking about anime and lolis
Honestly the best way to use pretty much any board.


Generally not very alarmist but this is the first time since moot left it's looking pretty bad, between the lawsuits and what appears to be the reaction to them.


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This is certainly going through, and looking at other 4chan boards the flareup over it is inexpressibly mild compared to the absolute nothingburger that was the split. People are pointing at the "some" in the new page as if it were ultimate proof that it'll be used on multiple boards but not all of them, but there's no reason to trust anything they say. At the same time, others were fearmongering they'll apply it to /pol/ too but it'd be such a massive shitfest that I doubt they'll bother.
A lot of folks also seem to be taking the Indians claim at face value and saying that rather than instituting this filter they should just rangeban the country, which really misses the point of the whole thing.
(forgot to post this nine hours ago but i think it's still accurate)


If this is a late April fool's joke it would be pretty good.


you're being silly. If they wanted to make money they would just expand the features in the pass system.


4chan makes money anyways. It's costs are just the colocation of some PHP servers and some cloudflare services... compared to Reddit which hires employees to maintain a good and friendly media presence.


>you're being silly.
>If they wanted to make money
You can believe about this incident whatever you want. But to assume that Hiro paid for this site for any other reason than to make money would be wildly naive.


No... You're ignoring that they have a perfectly established system for payments in place already and assuming there's some big reason when the mods are likely misreading the problem


You are arguing that a for-profit company just decides that they don't want more money.
I am not even talking about this case of email verification. This is what you are saying. And it's silly.


I'm arguing that you're pushing a theory based on too many assumptions


I am not pushing a theory. I am pointing out that you made a silly claim.


You're responding to soyjak faggots copypasta.


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Are you talking about >>122742 No it's not, I was the one who wrote that.


Don't you realize that >>123069 is 6 months from the future? She's searching for the man who is destined to rape her lover, and God knows what she will do to him once he falls into her hands.


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My main issue is the fact that they want to have their cake and eat it too. There's no imageboard principles from the founding of the website or from Futaba Hiro and the rest of the staff won't overturn for money and I won't rehash the discussion on how trash it is or how it can spread to other boards. But economically, if the obvious solution of hiring more people to look at /biz/ was not viable is to cut losses and delete the board altogether. But doing this preserves the workforce to not need to as heavily moderate the board and allow for Hiro to keep making money.
Even if 300 bans a week or rounding up, 2 bans an hour, from /biz/ was as onerous as the staff claims it is, the board is slow compared to other boards. We're talking right now it's not even in the top 10 fastest boards on 4chan even at its peak of 12 posts a minute. /vg/ not even at peak hours is 90 posts a minute. The disparity is staggering and 12 posts an hour at peak is almost nothing.
The most baffling thing though that this is implying is that the older tools of moderation the staff uses has stopped scaling and there has been no consideration to start using solutions out there that have been there for a while for automated spam/marketing detection that have been in place for email systems for decades. I'm not even expecting the fancy machine learning moderation tools that are out there now but if the board staff can't even have the tools to do their job effectively except keep browsing the catalog and marking posts manually for deletion at this point, I don't know if 4chan is even going to survive for long once the current crop of AI software matures enough to effortlessly spam shit everywhere.


it could also just be them hedging their bets in case it ever comes into play that adult social websites have to have a registration mechanism or risk being illegal in states like Texas


4chan does a few petabytes in traffic a month. that's easily $10k-15k a month for cloudflare alone


I'd say 10k is a good ballpark for hosting and services... 120k / yr
Just as a point of reference for what Truth Social pulls in, they get 4.9million from their operations(I won't discuss the losses because the company's expenses are a scam). If 4chan gets 1% of that they're paying this off.
> It revealed an operating loss of $15.96 million and around $40 million in interest.

With their pass, 120k/yr is 6_000 subscribers per year. Which seems very doable, then they've got their meager advertising stream which can cover the rest


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The Stock Market General immediately moved to /bant/ (probably because it has IDs and the country flags /biz/raelis have requested for years) after the verification system was implemented, and is one of /bant/'s most active threads.


Hopefully that'll spice things up.


I get the yurobaiting, but how the fuck is bible spam getting that many replies? And why is AI shit even on that board, did /g/ get verification too? I thought /bant/ was the Cirno spam board.


The christian thread was moved from /pol/. The AI thread exists because every single board needs to have one, apparently.


I don't think anyone is arguing that 4chan is currently making a loss.


i'm not sure what the comment I'm responding to is trying to say then


I'll confess that I am confused by that post too. I was too shy to ask directly.


>I was too shy to ask directly.


>But economically, if the obvious solution of hiring more people to look at /biz/
What do you mean? I hate using this phrase, but they literally do it for free.
They have no excuse other than wanting to implement this.


There is a limited pool of people who hate 4chan enough to cut it as janitors/mods. It's entirely plausible that they have trouble recruiting more willing slaves.


When was the last time they did a recruitment drive?


>But to assume that Hiro paid for this site for any other reason than to make money would be wildly naive.
4chan is not a profit engine, it's a good month if it barely pays for itself


Are you really going to argue that Hiro just loves the community of 4chan that much?


That may have been true 10 years ago when moot was running a site he made to have fun with a community he was part of, there is absolutely no reason to think it's true today when it's run by a guy who has never engaged with the community in a meaningful way and who consistently makes decisions aimed at increasing revenue through ads and pass sales.


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ferminion post


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minion post


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mini mion minion


I really really like this image


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Although some might think the intial drop of activity by 66% would recover as people start verifying, the opposite is happening. Activity dropped so even people who are verified are posting even less a week after the change than the day of the change.

/biz/ was straight up murdered.


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Holy SHIT. It's the same speed as /m/ now. Down to 1/10 of its previous activity. Is this what's gonna happen to the rest of 4chan in the future as well? It does put into perspective that convenience is a big reason why people use imageboards. Take that away and there's not much reason to not use social media over them.




though i suppose we'd have to ask the /biz/ anonymous about it since as a stranger at least it's hard for me to tell what the impact was beyond speed


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Most /biz/raelis simply moved to /bant/.


Barely, and at the same time as /biz/ posts are going down, so are /bant/. /biz/ on /bant/ is going to be a short lived phenomena outside of maybe 4 generals that might stick around for a while. /bant/ doesn't even have that much /biz/ posts anymore. Most of them are just gonna start posting about non-/biz/ stuff instead and likely go to some other board eventually.


Won't they undo the change if it's clearly so unpopular?


rest in piss /biz/
*pours out lukewarm steel reserve mixed with spit on the grave*


If they cared what the users wanted, they wouldn't have done it in the first place.


The question here not being what the users want, but what keeps the number of users high, which is (presumably) what Hiro wants.


What he wants (presumably) is money and ad-blocking, non-pass-buying users are a drain on resources you only accept because they help attract paying customers. If the board went from 20% pass users at 100% total users to 100% pass users at 30% total users then that's a net profit for him. That might hurt long-term prospects, but he might not need to worry about the long-term.


But this is 10% users, and it is not clear to me that they are all pass payers or turning their adblock off for 4chan.
In fact, it's doubtful that even these guys will stay there, given how dead the board is now.

This is assuming that the lost posters were 100% genuine human beings, and not bots that were ruining the board for everybody. I can't judge that. I haven't used /biz/ except for a few short weeks after its creation.




Secret /jp/? No idea what that could mean. If you mean the one associated with a guy that avatarfagged as Aya then it's on zzzchan.xyz


Just lie until that lie becomes the fact.
Truth is a matter of perspective.


Reddit offers more valuable insights and whatnot.
Why the dispreference?


Not that anon, but any forum that comes with up- and downvotes is a no-go for me.


Is GNFOS gone for good?
I'm starting to think that turning it into a gambling site isn't just one of T's "gags".
Feels bad man..
It's probably my fault GNFOS died. I kept laughing at him whenever he failed a quest in MonHun.
I should've played with him / carried him into MR.


Nah fuck him, let him be a bitch and lick his wounds for a year or two, it'll come back.


I don't see how he gets the domain back after this, so maybe.


I think more than that him focusing on his new job was what pushed him to sell it. He finally normed out


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It's Cinco de Maho today.


The jurisdiction of this site is a democratic state.
Regardless the content is still there for you to see.
You are freely able to sort by any way you wish for.


I am not sure what you are trying to say. Please clarify.


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Since we have a couple of weeks of data and nearing the one month mark since the change by this point, we can see now that the board's activity is completely down for good and >>123579 was right about most of what he said although I disagree that the /biz/ on /bant/ is not going strong, /smg/ was one of the fastest general threads there and the stock market is always dynamic so I don't see it changing, it's going to continue existing. /bant/ itself though barely budged upwards, all that traffic /biz/ had is just lost completely forever. It may be a good thing since most of that was crypto after all, and they have refocused to post and advertise grassroots elsewhere. I think that the concerns about who was exactly lost may have been overblown in that case. But it isn't clear if that actually impacted Hiro's bottom line here. Given that he hasn't rolled it back immediately, he may not care at this point, and there is a real danger I would say he may be considering it on other boards.


Hmm, looking at April /bant/ there it does seem to have reached the activity levels of say, January-February /biz/, with its hovering around 10k which is actually a fair big bigger than the last several months that were closer to 5k~7k, and it may be that the last couple days' decrease is just a regular fluctuation, but it is undeniable that /biz/ is turbomegadead by comparison. Still can't comment on the board's contents though, maybe that one /biz/raeli here can chime in once more.


Huh, I just noticed that /biz/ used to have the opposite cycle from /a/, with activity dropping over the weekend rather than rising.
Meanwhile, /s4s/ didn't seem to have a real weekend pattern at all, until /biz/ exploded.
I wonder if /s4s/ was just an amalgamation of other boards' random excess traffic and thus unable to express any real patterns. But then, its speed is way too consistent to be just a result of incidental activity bursts. So, I guess that means that the board has more NEETs than other boards.


Makes sense since the stock market and other market activities are only open on weekdays. Only crypto is 24/7. But yeah, that is now affecting those boards for better or worse.


NTA but maybe he's referring to using any sub you want? which is not the best idea bc the whole site is just ironic and unfunny, or at least 80 percent of plebbit is. if you're lucky to find a (very)smaller one then it's decent i guess(??) if you manage to weed out underage/stupid people on your own. still not good for general discussion though.
wait /s4s/ is faster now?


>NTA but maybe he's referring to using any sub you want?
How would that be a sensible response to somebody who rejects some key functionality of the site?
I didn't even say that I disliked any particular subreddit or community there.


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I took a look and no, for [s4s], the difference seems like it is margin of error but it is in one of its upcycles and it has more traffic than /biz/ now.


uh why is gnfos a turkish sports betting casino now


Read up in the thread, dummy. Well, no one really has an answer since you know what everyone else does, I.E nothing: >>122595 >>124064


Trevor sold it to a turkish gambling company after he got owned by an Elder Dragon on MHW while streaming and laughed at for it.


Yeah it really is just this: >>124217


that logic tracks, i also sell my property to turks when i lose in video games


I think he just set it up for sale, I remember it being vacant for a bit before the Turk showed up, but I may be remembering it wrong and I don't know how this stuff works.


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shadow wilchan died today


What was it and why did it die?


An original tinyboard version of polish imageboard wilchan.org before they switched to custom software in 2019. It was almost 10 year old. Terminated because of possible vulnerabilities of tinyboard. Now redirects to main page.


someone's brought it up, but they're always these hypothetical ideas that the tinyboard chain of imboards have issues, but no one exploits them. it's not a great software for many reasons, but security has been at it for a while, and just prevent any buffer overflows and the worst that they find is some sort of bug


the dall-E 3 thread on /v/ got moved to /b/



AI is kind of a reverse video game, where you give the computer a task and then evaluate its performance.

Maybe the thread belongs on /^/.


nvm I thought they banned it because they got tired of it on /v/ but it seems like the mod didn't recognize tracer because the OP image was in a different style


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The /biz/ idiot meido has realized that losing 80% of traffic was not great. You can now post without an email if you wait 15 minutes for the first time you post. Truthfully there was still spam threads and still bots in threads doing the same obvious bot posting. There was just way less activity.


Unfortunately I think a lot of the activity loss will be permanent. A lot of people moved on. On the 11th of May there was almost less than one thousand posts on the board the whole day.


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>1 minute ago


Credit goes to my friend who opened the catalog at the time it got posted then messaged it to me so fast that it still said 1 minute by the time I took the screenshot.
This happened exactly 30 days since >>123030. I wonder why they didn't cave sooner, or why they didn't just trial the 15 minute wait time in the beginning. There would probably be almost no backlash to waiting on posting from a new IP. They really messed up.


That's true, but at least it's a cultural victory for anonimity in imageboards. Had this succeeded, who knows if it wouldn't have been expanded to other boards and adopted by other websites. At least it was a quick defeat for a retarded idea.


still possible that the "caving" was planned and the intent was to get a benchmark of how much activity would be lost and what sort of users would actually verify emails


With a company like facebook, I'd believe that instantly.
4chan doesn't have the knowhow to meaningfully evaluate the data, I'd reckon. But they might team up with somebody else. That's the sort of accusation that people have been raising against Hiro from the beginning, anyway.


People may return because of the Gamestop short squeeze is back


It doesn't make much sense though. /biz/ is one of the most expensive boards to advertise on because shitcoins have high competition.

That's not a good thing. We want them to leave.


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It's already happening


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Dead cat bounce. Just kidding, but I love that /biz/ posting history looks like a dead shitcoin that finally got rugged.


i don't see how this was a win. it was a pretty minor thing & i doubt they were going to expand it to other boards.
it's plausible but
can't they just check 4stats?
why wouldn't they monitor their site activity?


>can't they just check 4stats?
They can do that, sure. And the archive too. But directly reading raw data does not give you the wealth of meta information that I thought >>124375 was referring to.



Best guess: he's a smug loli


No clue, doesn't seem to reply to anyone anywhere. Might as well be a bot.


Actually, it seems they made at least a few replies in that junku thread. Not just 5357, but also 5320 and 5169, 5166, then around 5459 more exchanges about the community over there and how "literally only us 3 know about [some other dude]." But I stopped reading around that point with how mindnumbingly boring and inconsequential it is, and I really can't tell if that's actually all just one guy or multiple people posting the same things, in any case it's the most teablogger replies I've seen yet.


You guys are forgetting about what the Japanese anons tried to warn us of when Hiro took over. Mainly, that he's been caught selling user data multiple times to the highest bidder. We know multiple boards are run by the American Government and moderated by the American alphabets. We know they are analyzing all the metadata they collect from users on there everyday. We know they use bot swarms and paid posters to push agendas and it's obvious those bots/people are all pass users (or at least have the same access) because they're never banned and allowed to run rampant. They are what's killed one board after another. Heck most of the boards are just straight ads now disguised as threads.

I'm not saying you can't find one or two good threads and a few real good people there. I'm just saying it's a business run like any other social media website. They're studying the users every way possible. The embedded javascript probably tracks you mouse movements and everything. I know of a few "underground" websites/forums that do exactly what.

For the most part I don't post on 4chan at all anymore. Maybe once a month on /a/ to post an update about something I'm working on and try to get feedback.

Moot sold us out to Google. Hiro is just a face for who's really running things. I'm sure he's paid well to be that face and take the blame should anything really bad happen. Moderation is insufferable even on boards like /a/ now. Doesn't matter if you're civil or not. You say the wrong thing and you're going and I'm not talking about low effort /pol/ stuff either.

In fact, I would highly advise you use it as little as possible. I've noticed it has started setting even more cookies lately for no reason. One of these days I'll take a good look at the javascript that's basically required to lurk now.


he has replied to me twice, be nice.


it seems im one of the few who dont mind his presence, im only curious not malicious.


The Frog Pond site which was spammed everywhere (including here) is down


The usual reaction is that if you're going out of your way to blog about the most meaningless stuff and copypasting it across a couple dozen sites while hardly replying to anyone then that's either trolling or attention whoring, I think it makes sense for people to dislike it. Ate banana on an industrial scale. It's interesting that he put it up on /secret/, but even there it feels like the only objective is to take up space.
Last time I checked they had a thread where one guy made a parody edit of the /qa/ train pic. It was rather interesting to see.


he's like whatmin except his posts are maginally less inane


ritualposting can be annoying depending on how eerie and botlike it is but I like some of the images he posts and he was nice >.<. I agree with you, overall.


don't mind the tea guy personally


Notably, he's not ritualposting. He's keeping a tea-diary, with some humor (and multiple copies).


A diary would have more information. He intentionally makes posts that are as banal as possible. It's shitposting any way you slice it.


I think its a sane assumption to presume he's from /tea/. Tea? /jp/ shit? Blogging? All fit /tea/ to a T.


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seems so


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So, uhh, does/did anyone here use tohno-chan? It was brought up a recent discussion and I decided to go look at it, but... https://tohno-chan.com/
Maybe this happens now and then and I'm unaware of something, but it could also be bad news. I think it has a twitter account, but that stuff is locked away to me since nitter died.


Works on my end, maybe you need to remove the s since it's throwing me a security risk though.


Oh, huh. It does work for me in a different browser (firefox) as long as I manually type in the url without the S, yeah. Huh. Pretty strange. Can't say I've ever seen such an error before with the host seemingly denying that the site exists at all.


If the certs are broken and they're using MitM/anti-ddos then you're probably getting that error message from the MitM server. The site is still there but https traffic isn't getting through to it. But http is.


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Doge is kill. Gone to join longcat.


I heard at least a year ago that it's been overdue with quite a low quality of life due to greatly deteriorating health. It's for the best.
There's plenty of new cat celebrities, but I'm not aware of any dog ones.


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I didn't like him that much as a meme in the Western web, but it's not his fault that Westerners are retarded I guess. I hope he went to Shinto doggy heaven or something.


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Kabosu/Doge had already fallen ill with leukaemia, lost her sight, much of her hearing and the ability to walk by the time she died.


reminds me of the mortality of my dog...


It's been resurrected under a different name and now redirects to the new site.


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I posted this in a blog thread here, but I got blocked due to "spam" (blog thread abuse?). it's not a happening but I don't what other thread to talk about this (and I don't think it's worth making a new thread for). can someone explain what the fuck pic related means?
>Moderation is insufferable even on boards like /a/ now. Doesn't matter if you're civil or not. You say the wrong thing and you're going and I'm not talking about low effort /pol/ stuff either.
it really seems like that right now


Mods can make mistakes too. Come back when your appeal is denied. (and take their advice to heart - even if they have wrongfully banned you, insulting them won't do you any good)

As a side note, I am surprised you can already see the appeal form. The way I remember it, it should be locked for the first 3 days of your ban and only become available after 72 hours.


i think it's a confusion that bans under three days don't ever get it.


I've gotten a bunch of lengthy bans over the years, and I distinctly remember having to wait to make my case - usually that they wrongfully accused me of ban-evasion, which the already passed waiting period itself proved wrong.
So, I'm pretty sure that I do not remember wrong.


I appealed earlier today; I didn't insult anyone. anyway, I think I will post about 4chan stuff here from now on. I really miss having /nah/ threads on the original /qa/ for stuff like this.


He probably thought you were trying to summon barneyfag, who is somehow still doing his thing 10 years after its had any relevancy. And, while mods are garbage and ruining the site, considering you were on /s4s/ and typing like a retard, I'm not confident that's not exactly what you were trying to do.


The moderation on 4chan is so insufferable now I don't even bother to appeal. I reset my router+modem to get a fresh IP by spoofing the MAC address on the router and go about my business. I don't think they even check posts anymore. If you send enough reports you can get banned for anything.

Technically, it is against the rules. But I try really hard to stay within their unjust rules when I do post there (maybe once a month now). Even then I frequently catch a ban because someone wants to argue. Then they dog pile from what I assume are discord servers. I've noticed I'll get banned for the exact same thing the other side of the argument is doing but they're never punished.

It's obvious there is a mod club and if you aren't in it or friendly with it you get banned for 3 days - months. Same thing they used to do on IRC. It's just on discord now.

I honestly don't find much value. The small boards are starting to get as bad as the large boards got a few years ago. Of course everything after about 2007 isn't that great.


I agree but I can’t evade, apparently. leaving my router disconnected all night won’t reset the IP address. I remember it used to work with just 10-15 minutes of being disconnected. I also have gotten banned multiple times due to someone else mass-reporting, and just bullshit reasons in general.


I feel like every decision the mod team makes (incognito removed, IP count removed, 50 captchas, etc.) is meant to cater towards little kids who have the time to wait through just to make the site worse. I wish I could hear it straight from their mouths that they really want that kind of awful crowd.
man what the hell? fucking feds I wish they'd leave the damn 20 year olds alone.


>incognito removed
>50 captchas
Elaborate? I haven't used 4chan recently.

>IP count removed
As far as I am concerned, they should never have introduced the IP counter. It only worked to reveal the laziest of samefags, the ones that aren't even malicious, such as OPs trying to give their threads a little kickstart.


>4 posts getting deleted for criticizing koreans/calling them "gooks" on /a/
really weird change in moderation. I've used that term all the time up until now. I wonder if "chinks" is taboo now too.


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Isn't like 1/5 of /a/ about manhwa and webtoons now?


I only really use one thread but yeah, it is so in that particular thread


such freedom of speech restrictions that you're not allowed to talk about japanese politics on /a/


Do you spoof the MAC address of your PC or router connected to your modem? A lot of ISPs are getting very restrictive now. They recently replaced the modem/router combo of a family member here. I can't even get into the admin panel of it. They want you to call them and tech support logs in remotely. A large security hole waiting to happen.

They claim you can configure it yourself from their cell phone app. But I don't have a cell phone anymore. Logging in from the local ip ( just redirects you to a support page that tells you to call them or download the cell phone app. I'm not letting them replace my modem if I can help it.

I've been thinking about buying my own modem. There is a list of like 3 you can use on the ISPs network. But it's a pain to get them to approve the use of them.

Half the mod team of /a/ are gooks now that use the
>no racism outside of /b/
rule to unjustly ban people. That rule and another are use as justification to ban people everywhere these days. The mods don't play fair on 4chan. If you aren't in the clique you'll catch a ban for doing exactly the same thing they're doing in threads. You can always tell a mod is lurking when a heated debate is happening. They'll delete one sides posts that make up half of the thread and issue 3 day - 3 month bans to silence them.

In other words. You aren't allowed to joke about anything anymore. One side can throw around racist and vulgar insults and the other can't. You can complain about certain people (e.g. whites, straights, Americans, Japanese, senpais) but if you joke about others (e.g. gays, transexuals, blacks, Koreans, Jews) you'll eat the ban.

The only people that apply for mod positions now are the exact types you don't want to have access to mod tools.


kohais must learn to respect their senpais if they are to post


unfortunately I am tech illiterate so I don’t know about that spoofing/MAC address stuff. I just remember evading used to be easy but my folks have changed their internet provider from time to time and I think that may have changed something. and from my experience, 99% of bans are 3 days so it’s just short enough to deny the right to appeal. I remember getting banned for commenting about another user (the official reason was “off-topic” although I did use a racial slur). strangely enough, that user in particular CONSTANTLY blogposts about his life and blatantly off-topic shit like his affairs and his ruined marriages (he is attention-starved); he’s never once had his posts deleted from my time in those threads. He once remarked that the moderation team likes him, and in hindsight, I think he was a janny.
that’s a very strange filter to have on kissu. I wonder what it was.
test: spic


He probably was a janitor or even a mod. They have an in-group and let people in that group break the rules constantly.

Spoofing a MAC address isn't that hard depending on what kind of router you have. Most of them have an option to change the MAC address somewhere in the settings. After you change it you simply reboot the ISP's modem. Usually by unplugged it from a power source and waiting about 10 seconds to plug it back in. When it reboots it'll see the device connected to it has a different MAC address. This will force the ISP's network to assign your modem a new IP address.

My local ISP has two ranges (e.g. 165.x.x.x and 89.x.x.x). It's sometimes useful to keep resetting the modem until I get an address in the range I want. Since they do not allow you to run servers on home connections and block them if you're in the same range as other people. But if you're on a different range than your clients it works for whatever reason. I have to ensure I'm not in the same range as friends and family that access my media server and locally hosted website.

I don't have to reset mine much for 4chan unless I catch an unjust ban on /a/. Which I only post on at most twice a month now whenever I announce something I've created is up for download. I learned a few years ago that it was useless to post on most of the boards. /g/ in particular is really bad now. Almost anything of value to be discussed is an instant ban and the mods are lurking it all of the time. Which is why the board has mostly become a place to shill products. When I tried to announce and get help for my fork of Gentoo I was banned for 3 days constantly.

You're right. They abuse the 3-day ban because you can't appeal it. This way the admins never see complaints (not that they care). Mods use a lot of underhanded methods like that. On some smaller alt-chans they'll ban you and claim you posted pizza. Since the admins don't want to verify and look at such posts to see if they were really pizza they take the mods word for it. Most of the time they couldn't verify it anyway. As such posts are purged from the database instantly. Since everyone is paranoid about having pizza on the server at all (with good reason).

Finding honest moderation is really hard. The people you want doing it are the last that'll apply for the position because they don't want the headache. The people you don't want doing it are the first to apply because they want the power. Now a days a lot of mods are paid anyway. Since it's a great way to subvert or kill a board. Most people are not interested in real discussion anymore. The owners are interested in turning a profit and faking user stats. They bow to advertisers because they're making bank off the adds and the shill posts. This has been a long standing problem going all the way back to when people first started embedding google ads into web pages. Since they didn't want to get kicked out of google's network they started implementing rules against free speech. Back in the early-mid 2000s some forum admins were making upwards to $10k a month just off google ads alone. Even smaller forums were making several hundred-thousands of dollars if they embedded google ads. Some forums were being auctioned off for $20k+ because people knew they could make it back off ad money in just a few months. I knew several people that owned 20-50 forums all running google ads. Some of them were making over $250k a year in ad money alone until google blacklisted all the forums and started re-directing people to social media websites like reddit, facebook and the others.


>that’s a very strange filter to have on kissu. I wonder what it was.
I would tell you but I've already forgotten.


alright, I guess if my appeal gets denied: I’ll look into changing the MAC address. my WiFi is used by a lot of people so I’d rather not tamper with it too much to avoid fucking something up and ruining it for everyone. not surprising that everything ends up being about money. I could go on about unfair bans but it would never end.


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>MAC address


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It's the 'oom' and 'oon' words that all the kids are crazy about these days. "Kouhai" is the filter for the Z word used by older users to talk about people they dislike and "senpai" is the filter for the B word that younger people use to talk about people they dislike. Theoretically it's possible to make a good post with these words in them, but it's statistically insignificant.


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and these posts did not have any racial slurs, nor did they mention koreans (they seemed to be talking about FMA). it seems like moderation is becoming aggressive for some reason. truly bizarre.


All that will happen is your users will think the internet is down for about 2 minutes or so. Once the modem reboots and fetches a new IP everything will just werk as always.

Ah of course. I only used it as an example. But it is hating on an entire group of people. So I included it as an example of a group that's a-okay to hate.

Some anons were complaining about this in some threads I was lurking a few months ago. I can't remember what thread they were posting in now. But they were basically saying that anyone that criticized Korea was getting the old mod treatment. They were claiming censorship.

It was probably for that Korean anime that aired back in the winter. I know some anons that were laughing about its ratings got banned for no reason.


Racism being persecuted is not exactly new.
What is new is that the moderation is so selective that it feels out of place.

You can really tell what the mods don't care about, what discussions mods want to shut down and what threads mods have turned into their personal strongholds.
The rules at this point are little more than tools to achieve the desired purpose.


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Anonymous.... this wasn't a mod deletion, it was someone remaking their post because they accidentally deleted the last number from their quotelink, making them quote a thread from fifteen years ago:
None of the old posts were actually deleted either, that's a 4chanX problem.
Anyways, as slow as the happenings thread is nowadays, I don't think using it to complain about random moderation on 4chan is anything worthwhile. There's nothing new to say about it.


my bad, didnt think a chain of deleted replies would be because of some typo


I posted on it once and my post was removed.


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Update on this roughly a month on. The board recovered somewhat but is still missing 33% of users and the increased traffic in /bant/ has stayed. The threads that were the most high quality on the board like the stock market, commodities, and precious metals threads with traditional assets and not crypto is completely dead on /biz/ and commodities didn't come back. The threads would go through multiple OPs a day before the change and now will go an entire week before the thread dies. The counterparts on /bant/ are still mirroring the old behavior meaning people didn't come back and are staying there. My prediction is that the crypto scammers are eventually going to come back and shill and that seems to be where most of the traffic increase going back up is from so would not be surprised if this doesn't stop the problem regardless. The other worrying trend is /pol/ using it as an outpost and posting about dumb stuff like financial sanctions and GME. Sad that the board had to die like this, I used it infrequently but people had good insights in the non-crypto threads and now I can't browse it at work unfortunately to my detriment.


what did you even post to get it removed
I’ve never been a /biz/ user but I’m sorry it happened to a board you cared about. Now I really haven’t touched the site in a while, wonder if they’ll ever rollback half the bullshit the mods have decided to take so people can come back.


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NicoNico's doing a large scale reconstruction and upgrade to itself after a massive cyber attack took it down a few days ago.


>what did you even post to get it removed
I dont know. It was a year or so i posted on there. I just posted something along with a picture and it was removed.


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A recent update puts the estimation time to repair at over a month. It was never a very efficient site and it ran like semi-frozen molasses, so maybe it was extra vulnerable to attack. Just the usual China or Russia thing I'm guessing.


What kind of attack was it?


your classic hiroyuki attack


Long overdue tbh. They put timeshift and all this membership bs but wont even update their damn infrastructure.


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no idea if you care but here’s the update: I checked my email a few days after appealing and no reply, so naturally I think I’m still banned. I’ve accidentally tried to post only to be met with the ban message but never clicked it again because I already saw the reason the first time. Turns out they “changed” the reason for the ban (not the rule, but the phrasing in the ban message) and the length. I’ve been unbanned these past few days and didn’t realize it.


I once had the opposite happen to me. Came back after a 3 day ban, only to be met with the appeal page, for a 30 day ban.
I was so mad that I just wrote a long and angry rant. Didn't really work out for me.

Good for you, though.


Old mods understood the difference between using casual racism as a shibboleth and full on rants.
Literally "shibboleth" was the word A-San would throw around in irc.


Kadokawa didn't pay the ransom so they're releasing the data.



That sucks... I guess? Will it affect anything or is it just embarrassing to some executives? I imagine Japanese IT security stuff is even worse than Western IT security stuff so these Russians could simply disable the entirety of the Japanese media industry if they wanted to, but with Kadokawa and presumably NND refusing to comply then maybe they'll aim somewhere else? Fuck those guys.



Do you have anything to say about your twitter link? Let's not turn into the 4chan twitter-links-instead-of-discussion thing...


So it's a imageboard but with some NFT crypto trash attached? Yuck


I guess this is how you win at life these days, just make get rich quick scams and sell the means for other people to scam each other.


It seems when you do the captcha, it resends the message? Or perhaps, I double clicked the submit button and that caused the captcha for the second message.


From what I can gather it reminds me of systemspace (the cult-like nature), agora road (faux nostalgia from people that weren't alive for it) and some general r9k/biz stuff, although that just might be general internet culture at the point. Since money is involved and it's closed off then it's safe to say the numbers are fabricated as there is a monetary incentive to do so.

It's weird to think of how much of this iconography exists because some guy decided to make a fumo mod for roblox or something and it exposed kids everywhere to something they otherwise never would have seen.


Seems like everyone involved (on twitter, at least) is all crypto web3 people, bleh


Ah, a place with posting requirements more convoluted than Kohlchan finally appears.

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