No.178961
>>178845why did it take them so long? the site has been dead since 2016 or 2017
No.178973
4taba is back
No.179008
fuckweb-3-0 was a small imageboard but maybe its admin killed himself, it's closed as of recently.
also, heyuri released some logs of the current world2ch admin blackmailing them with some of their users doxes:
https://rentry.co/world2ch No.179010
Anything involved with heyuri is probably fiction unless both sides affirm
No.179011
>>179008imagine believing anything h*yuri says
No.179012
>>179010>>179011that's kind of a stupid take tbh
like the source or not, if you are posting here you can make your own researches before calling stuff bullshit
No.179013
¥oh no my site got spammed¥must be some other site's admin¥he also doxed my users (don't ask how)¥proof: some rando on IRC said it was himSensible chuckle.
>>179010That's a pretty good principle for imageboard documentation in general. Doubly so when one site is run by a known drama queen with a martyr complex and a tendency to self-mythologize.
No.179014
>>179013first of all you are severely out of date with heyuri (but let's stop here, you can make your own fresh research if you care)
secondly, it's simply a given that a site's staff will know who is who if they have access to seeing users IP addresses. You can doubt their honesty and that's fine but it's stupid to think the site admins won't know the truth
No.179016
>>179015
"actually a cool guy" according to whom?
"disgusting content" according to whom?
piss off tachi
No.179017
>>178833So many low quality drawings on that site. What happened? Wasn't like that before it got spammed.
No.179018
>>179017It got popular, i guess. The /pol/kuso spam and broken Librefox canvases also don't help but as far as I know the admin doesn't delete anything unless it's illegal or caused by a raid.
No.179031
>>179022He's been making similar doomy statements for quite some time, it's hard to take hime seriously by now
No.179035
>>179031I mean its good advice, there isn't really any clearnet site with "questionable" content that you can guarantee the existence of these days, so you should just save whatever you care about before it becomes a husk of itself due to some regulation or the other.
And while his whole manner of talking about the issue
has gotten a little grating, from the notices he's posted where its clear that cloudflare is basically arbitrarily felting his site (deserved for using them anyway?) I can get where its coming from.
No.179037
>>179036Retiring before 1000000000 on /b/, huh...
No.179038
>>179022I blame angloids, norms and krauts for this.
No.179044
>>179043Love this rendition of WTH as a bulky slightly fat bara demon
No.179049
>>179043>>179036No surprise there. KoG, sakurafish, cirnofags, siztra and a bunch of other names where part of a pretty big network of /a/-related chatrooms*. They were in the habit of hyping their own legends, that's why that pyramid exists in the first place. Naturally they aged out of circlejerking on the internet. KoG was one of the last guys still holding on.
* Before you start ranting this was many years before the idea of a "4chan derived offsite chat" became synonymous with culture war gayop cabals. Every board had a spinoff IRC back in the late 00s / early 10s.
No.179070
>>179048I know, I thought k*z was gone for good
No.179074
>>179017the admin is hilariously hands off
I did call a bunch of blatant spam out and the response I got was "it's funny"
probably drove a lot of effortposting away
No.179078
>>179074Failed canvas, duplicate posts, politics and text "drawings" should all get removed. I love Paperchan, but the admin's negligence will end up harming it in the future.
No.179093
>>179043You made me check up on mugen, good to see him still alive years after his cancer I guess
No.179095
>>179074>>179078I've seen sites going to kuso once political posters get too comfortable a few times already. Always makes me wonder if it's the quality posters leaving or them just going all out once it turns out the administration is okay with it/getting forced into accepting it.
No.179128
>>179048>imageboard retro sceneas in old imageboards or imageboards that try to be old-school?
>>179095politics in non-political spaces are cancer on the modern internet
No.179131
>>179128the latter. and they aren't fucking around either they managed to set up some really old stuff like the minibss forks used for ayashii world.
unfortunately the admin and his clique are literal poison, a lot of people choose to stay away because of them. so their community is isolated.
No.179146
>>178833I love paperchan because every time the admin does something wrong people start drawing either violent or sexual art of his stickman face avatar thing
No.179147
Imageboards are retro by default.
Like being into ham radio.
No.179150
>>179149What is the little guy listening to?
No.179152
>>179147"i am not old, i am not old!" i try to type, but my arthritis is acting up
No.179153
>>179150Ham-Funk era, funked out with a taba twist.
No.179157
>>179149rad ham radio, with your host: mc squibbles
No.179173
Where is the desert bus thread?
No.179189
>>179176Nah fuck you leather man
No.179316
>>178831I think this is just gonna keep happening every week
No.179393
>>179316I think Vulon is just unhappy with the site and doesn't bother moderating it at this point. The good thing is its open source so if the site ever shuts down you could make your own clone of it.
https://github.com/vulonkaaz/paperchan.club/ No.179499
Is 8chan working for anyone else?
No.179506
>>179499It is for me as of writing, but it has been on and off the last few days. they've been suffering from DDoS attacks
No.179507
>>178263>According to the leaker the sharty admins want to shut down the imageboardQuote (the current admin of the sharty) has confirmed that he will shut it down when he gets tired of running it.
Also, according to sharty splinter users, somebody found a severe vulnerability in Vichan which seems to allow the attacker to gain admin access.
https://secapedia.org/index.php/The_Great_Vichan_Crisis No.179509
>>179507Lmao that wiki feels like reading trogoldyte poop scriptures
No.179511
>>179507Big if true. almost every imageboard runs vichan.
No.179512
>>179507How do we know if this isn't the same situation that happened with Sushichan a year ago where some soyfag just guessed the admin password and started deleting posts? Or better yet, a rogue admin.
No.179513
>>179512From what I understand he took down two different sites?
No.179515
>>179513It doesn't seem like they have any interest in taking down non-soysphere sites. But i'd still keep an eye out just in case.
No.179516
>>179515It's a matter of time before someone else discovers those in the age of AI.
No.179518
Correction: one site got hacked, other shut down and started migrating software in response.
No.179519
>>179518Unless more proof comes out, I think either of these options
>>179512 might be correct.
Sushichan did get PGed about a year ago because some 'teen found out that the admin password was something like "admin/password". I'm not sure how that happens or if Vichan automatically resets the password to the default one but I feel like that's what probably happened with the "hacked" site here.
No.179521
>>179519That's not too minimize the issue though I still think it might be worth looking into the actual code and seeing if there really are any vulnerabilities.
No.179523
>>179507How bad is it really if someone has my IP? It seems like a nothingburger without other compounding data points about me.
No.179524
>>179523I'm more concerned about the fact that the guy has access to the admin panel, which implies making new boards or deleting them, and banning/deleting user posts. You basically have the power to fuck up the whole site with that. IPs mean nothing when it comes to imageboards. All they do is let admins know what your country is, they're never accurate.
No.179525
>>179508
yeah, a modified version
No.179527
if I have your IP I can look it up on a find-what-this-IP-address-is-torrenting website
No.179528
>>179524Maybe an intermediate solution would be to implement robust monitoring around admin activity and making the file system read only if an unauthorized IP is accessing the admin panel.
>>179526A motivated attacker can become a nuisance, yes, I think a good exercise against that possibility would be pondering about, lets say, how you would blackmail your worst enemy if all their online activity has become available to you, in addition to where they study/work and their personal contacts. Eliminate blackmailable activity if present, and have a good social standing so that false accusations naturally deflect. With good cyber hygiene on top, I believe this is overall a pretty robust defense against getting doxxed.
No.179530
>>179528Sorry for double posting, one thing I haven’t addressed in your post was if they attempt to get my email and passwords. For that case I’d recommend using a secure device, like an iphone, using a password manager with good track record, and locking down your accounts with at least totp or ideally passkeys, and maybe storing these passkeys on a hardware security module like a yubikey. At least that’s what I do. In that case a breached password is useless beyond breaching one account, and they’d still be stuck in the 2 factor authentication flow.
No.179538
>>179512Something like this already happened:
>>178675 >>178677 >>178683I'll take a moment to say: I warned you dawg
No.179540
>>179526
>2. Someone can cross reference your IP and the fingerprint associated with it with other past leaks of other websites to do 1)
Important: This depends entirely on whether you have a dynamic or static ISP that holds down the IP long enough to ever be crossreferenced.
You are more likely to be cross referenced for the emails, usernames or passwords you use.
No.179541
>>179507So is it over for vichan imageboards or what
No.179548
>>179541Depends on the hacker existing in the first place and not being a prank by soy spinoff admins
Then, it depends on the hacker being actually smart and having dl's the dbs of all the sites he pwnd
Then, it depends on the hacker being interested in pwning non-soy sites at all.
So far, nothing is certain. If this escapes wojak sites I'd expect 8moe to be the first affected. Personally I'm close to calling bullshit on the whole thing. "0days"? no what the term means.
Either way this should be a wake up call for people who don't believe AI assisted auditing works. Audit your fucking code. No.179551
>>1795488moe runs on LynxChan so it's unaffected by these exploits at the very least. IIRC the backend portion is actually pretty small.
No.179553
>>179551Isn't lynx part of the vichan family?
No.179554
>>179553No, both it and jschan were seemingly written completely from scratch and run on Node. Vichan is PHP and descended from this ancient script that used to run a /new/ bunker when moot deleted it (lmao)
No.179556
There are a lot of ways to misconfigure vichan. There aren't so many to exploit it.
Realistically think about what this takes. The screenshots that were taken are of the mod dashboard. Assuming a correctly configured vichan this means that the person entered a username of an admin and entered in some kind of password which caused the php crypt assignment to freak out(the were probably still using MD5 encryption which kissu doesn't).
Or lets assume that vichan's security is perfect and that didn't happen. Someone could run a particular piece of software with a vulnerability and have them steal the mod tokens or such.
Then if it were misconfigured then there are some ways that someone could do maybe a more sophisticated exploit on the mod token signature..
The routes of this exploit seem dubious that there's any specific issue.
No.179557
And speaking of which... people say to audit the code with AI. But you can also do this write now on PHPdevel github and report back what it says. Then it won't be a zero day anymore. But i figure it will say things like md5 is insecure and it shouls have 2fa
No.179558
>>179556i think an imageboard NEEDS anonymous mods as well. otherwise you paint a pretty big social engineering target on your board.
No.179559
>>179523If it makes you feel better when I doxed people (years and years ago) and when I look at big doxes every now and then IP addresses are very rare. For the average internet dweller they are only really good for determining a rough area where your target might be (which can corroborate good, factual information mind you). Forget about it if they're using a VPN and/or Tor.
IF they are good enough social engineers, then they might be able to wrestle your ISP into handing over your subscriber information. I've never seen it, but knowing that some companies hand over information first before validating a police request, I'm sure it happens every once in a while.
>If the case is internet based, finding the internet protocol (IP) addresses is your first step in the investigation. An IP address consists of numbers and letters, and that series is attached to any data moving through the internet. In order to retrieve an IP address from some Internet Service Providers (ISP) you will need to subpoena, warrant, or court order the company for information.>What an IP address contains:>who owns and operates the network address,>associated domain name/ computer name,>geolocation,>email addresses, and>local service provider identifier.>All ISPs are based on subscriptions to the company, these companies have records of everything their subscriber’s do while on the internet. The timeframe that ISPs retain data from subscribers varies, therefore the investigation must move quickly. As the investigator, you can make a formal request to the ISP requesting they preserve the data in question while a subpoena, warrant, or court order is made requiring the records. Even with this letter, ISPs are not legally obligated to preserve the data for law enforcement.I also used to moderate an imageboard that 100% of anons here know about, and it keeps IP addresses attached to posts all the way back to two thousand fucking eleven.
No.179560
>>179559>it keeps IP addresses attached to posts all the way back to two thousand fucking eleven.hashed or not? it's bad either way but slightly less bad if they're hashed and salted.
No.179561
>>179559The 4chinz' db only stores ip addresses if they are on the ban list. I didn't bother to check if they store contents of the banned post, iirc they only do that for illegal bans. of course every active post has all their metadata attached and those living fossil boards still have posts from the early 10s.
If you are talking about another IB, i actually can't remember if there's any today that's old enough to have been active in 2011, without losing their db at least once. 7chan? wapchan?
No.179562
>>1795617chan is from 2005
Wapchan from 2022 (if not one or two years earlier)
No.179564
In my humble opinion, there is no reason to store user IPs for longer than 3 days.
No.179565
>>179527Everytime I check this the people on my shared ip address are torrenting porn or movies and dodgy software, what's the worst that could be inferred?
No.179568
>>179560confused wapchan with lainchan, which i just checked and is from 2014.
No.179570
>>179565The 4chan hack really exposed how retarded 4chan's opponents really are because they leaked janny ips and looked them up on iknowwhatyoudownload as if it meant anything.
No.179574
>>179573
huh and angeleno's previous submit back in february was the rip hotwheels edit
he may've been thinking about this since the end of october last year
what's most interesting is that this is the guy who became admin of the soywiki and sharty dev at around the same time he took over this repo, having found the soysphere during covid
No.179576
>>179573
oh its fucking over man
No.179577
>>179573
What does this mean for imageboards that run on vichan like kissu?
No.179578
>>179577probably that vermin will have to speed up the process of migrating kissu fully from the vichan codebase, since he was already planning to do that.
>>>/b/11010Though, I have to wonder about the long term stability of that, being an imageboard admin is significantly easier when some other person or group is doing the dedicated bulk work of updating the forum software you use. Well, its already been high friction to make an imageboard as is, one has to wonder how much more painful this could even really make it.
No.179579
I haven't touched vichan devel in years... do people even want anything different from vichan.. like how many people care about if a game is using Unity, Godot or UE.. it's just vanity projects for shareholders and tech leads.
No.179580
>>179579>do people even want anything different from vichan.. like how many people care about if a game is using Unity, Godot or UE.. it's just vanity projects for shareholders and tech leads.Does it matter if people don't care? At the end of the day what matters is what's most useful or pragmatic to use, so if its useful its worth making.
Also software is opinionated, so there will never be a one size fits all solution for anything, someone will always think of a way it could be different, shareholders are not the root cause of game engine fragmentation.
No.179581
>>179580What is this cope... literally everything that an imageboard needs to do is covered by the php7 specs. If you don't know how to use or augment an engine it's your fault, not cause to build a new engine.
No.179582
I'm not sure how many people were waiting and updating vichan every few months. I think they typically just download and run it and do personal changes if desired. Before the wojak guy was handed it (which shouldn't be trustworthy to ANYONE) hotwheels had been extremely sporadic and rather unwilling to update it, yet people still used it.
I just don't see it as much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm willing to eat my words if people with 2D imageboards and such were eagerly awaiting software updates from the same people that wanted to wipe them off the face of the internet.
No.179584
damn, does no one argue nowadays..
No.179585
>>179581i honestly don't know how your reply relates to the anon's posts. he's arguing that imageboard soft should be updated because there's still a practical necessity for running imageboards
But even then vichan dying is related to Angeleno "officially" killing basic vichan after years of it being actually dead, which i presume happened because he doesn't want to spend time reviewing the code for security holes.
No.179586
>>179585it literally doesn't. No matter how sophisticated you try to make your imageboard software, the websites running it will still be eclipsed by some legacy PHP code website that's been agressively advertised
No.179587
Kissu should migrate to Picochan.
No.179590
>>179582angeleno iirc was originally closer to spinoff/ib retro crews than to wojak lads. Don't think he was #qa but he was definitely posting then. I believe he got tangled up in the party's bullshit because k-man, who basically ran the retro crew, was pressuring everyone to get involved in party bullshit. Angeleno did like wojak shitte and was one of the last ones to leave, but he did leave.
Besides, you literally have his entire commit history here. He commited no foul on Vichan.
>>179586>the websites running it will still be eclipsed by some legacy PHP code website that's been agressively advertisedI lost you there verm.
>>179587TO TREVORCHAN
No.179591
>>179587kissu should work with wapchan and the other friend sites to develop a new engine
No.179592
>>179587i unironically like it but the dev told me not to use it because he wrote it in high school. shame because the lua codebase is actually nice imo
No.179593
>>179591Hikari3 already uses its own engine i think
No.179594
>>179593yeah, it's only kissu, 39chan, wapchan and sushichan that are still stuck with vichan
No.179595
>>179594why don't we just all build off the hikari3 engine (koshi)?
No.179597
>>179586>>179581I'm okay with staying on vichan but I'd rather have it audited.
No.179599
>>179598
You can do it with AI so we're fucked anyway, no matter the software.
No.179600
We need the 4taba engine, that thing runs like a well-oiled machine.
No.179601
>>179594what about tohno chan? last i visited they still used kusaba
No.179603
>>179602
jschan looks like kuso tho
No.179604
jabascript
No.179607
>>179601they use vichan now
No.179608
>>179601kusaba was infamous for its security holes back in the day. trevor slowcum wrote tinyib and then sriracha to replace it but both seem pretty deficient.
No.179609
>>179608tinyib was ok for what it set out to do at the time.
exploit wise, i don't think there's a single script out there that's properly patched. cybersecurity at that level just was never a problem.
No.179614
Are Lynxchan and JSchan the only imageboard engines with an active development?
No.179616
>>179614there's also sriracha which i mentioned above but the templates need some serious work
No.179618
>>179616Never seen any website use Sriracha
No.179620
So now that vichan is dead is there anything like it that doesn't look like kuso and instead looks/functions almost exactly like Yotsuba?.
No.179623
>>179620>So now that vichan is dead-Posted from vichan
No.179633
>>179629
You can't just post x links without any text..
No.179634
>>179600No... God no... Don't make me configure that software again
No.179636
>>179635Honestly you're better off not watching it, not sure why this was even posted here.
No.179637
>>179635I had to use xcancel to see it, and it was not even worth the time. I'm not even sure if it is a song or whate since I have the sound off right now.
No.179638
How can I improve upon this code in order to boost security
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpI'll fetch that file to review it.
Fetched:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpFetched:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpThis is the mod panel router for vichan (an imageboard). Here are the notable security issues and improvements:
1. Open redirect (critical)
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$_GET['r'] is used unvalidated. An authenticated mod can be sent to mod.php?status=302
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https://evil.com. Validate that r is a same-origin/relative path before redirecting (parse it, reject absolute URLs and // protocol-relative forms, allowlist your own host).
2. Timing-unsafe CSRF token comparison (high)
php
if ($token != make_secure_link_token
(substr($actual_query, 1))) {
!= is non-constant-time and loose. Use !hash_equals(make_secu
re_link_token(...), (string)$token). Same applies to the loose $token != ... elsewhere—use strict comparison plus hash_equals.
3. CSRF protection only covers secure/secure_POST routes
State-changing handlers not prefixed secure (or GET-based deletes) have no token check. Audit every route that mutates state and ensure it's secure_POST. Ideally, no destructive action should be reachable via GET at all.
4. make_secure_link_token strength
Not shown here, but this is the whole CSRF defense. Confirm it's HMAC over the path using a per-user secret with a constant-time verify—not a truncated hash. The 8-hex-char (32-bit) token is short and brute-forceable in principle; consider widening it.
5. Regex DoS / input surface
php
$query = rawurldecode($_SERVER[
'QUERY_STRING']);
Decoded query is run against many regexes with (.+) catch-alls. Cap query length before matching to reduce ReDoS and abuse potential.
6. Debug info leakage
When $config['debug'] is on, request/handler internals are exposed. Ensure debug is force-disabled in production regardless of config drift.
7. Header injection
header('Location: ' . $_GET['r'])—modern PHP blocks \r\n in header(), but combined with #1 it's still risky. Fixing the open redirect resolves this.
The dominant real-world risk here is #1 (open redirect) and #2 (token comparison). Since this is upstream OSS, the highest-value move is submitting these as a PR/issue rather than only patching locally.
Want me to draft the specific patched code for the redirect and token checks?
No.179639
Any other issues
Scrutinized code for overlooked defects
Scrutinized code for overlooked defects
A few more worth flagging:
8. Token stripped from query but validated loosely
php
$actual_query = preg_replace('!/([a-f0-9]{8})$!', '', $query);
if ($token != make_secure_link_token(substr($actual_query, 1))) {
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if (preg_match('/^' . sprintf(..., '(' . $config['board_regex'] . ')') . '$/u', $matches[$key], ...))
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call_user_func_array($handler, $matches);
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13. No explicit per-action authorization here
check_login($ctx, true) gates the whole file, but per-action permission checks live inside each mod_* handler. This router grants no defense-in-depth if a handler forgets its own permission gate. Not a bug in this file, but the architecture puts a lot of trust downstream.
The genuinely actionable ones remain #1 and #2 from before, plus #10 (trivial fix) and #9 (design-level). The rest are more "review the invariant" than "patch the line."
I'd caution against treating any of this as exploitable without reading the linked functions (make_secure_link_token, check_login, the mod_* handlers)—several concerns depend entirely on their implementations. Want me to trace those?
Claude is AI and can make mistakes. Please double-check responses.
No.179640
Anyways..
It's as i thought... Basically just CSRF attacks which are problematic if your mod team are retards(and basically impossible to solve should they be)
No.179641
2) is a funny exploit, bur proper vichan config solves it
I checked other files and it's more of the same. Vichan's mod cookie system is flawed. But every vichan owner should know this already and turn on ip verification..
No.179667
>>179573
What a bullshit excuse
No.179668
>>179595Doesn't Hikari just use a very modified Lynxchan?
No.179669
>>179562I'm pretty sure that 7chan still runs on Kusaba after all these years which is crazy to think about
No.179671
>>179668no it runs on koshi which is its own private engine
No.179694
>>179573
Have any imageboards switched yet?
No.179699
>>179694As far as i know, its only soysphere sites that have switched or shut down over this but i'm going by what people are saying here, i wouldn't touch those sites with a ten foot pole
Other than that only 39chan has confirmed that they'll be switching to a new software (and presumably Wapchan too due to same team)
No.179723
>>174543You should probably look at bantculture
No.179725
>>179723Bantculture is just the sharty if it had a /jp/ board
i like their gyate booru though
No.179726
>>179725After several years in the making, it improved somewhat considerably
No.179727
>>179726I just went on it and the first two things I saw were a thread about some sharty e-celeb that apparently eats poop followed by the one George Floyd meme image. I don't know if I would call that an improvement desu.
No.180145
>>179641Maybe you want to disable NNTP just in case.
We've had it disabled forever, but it may be able to bypass certain pathways if active.
This code was supposed to integrate with a decentralized imageboard concept, but it may have been pushed without being properly vetted.
Trim out any code that references it.
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/blob/master/post.php#L213This is probably nothing though because I think this is disabled by default.
No.180163
>>174543I haven't been on there in years but it looks like crystal.cafe is still chugging along. The caveat is that it's more real life focused than most other online communities, and its target audience is women.
No.180167
>>179640LLMs aren't deterministic though, what makes you so confident you found the same (assumed) exploit that the (assumed) other vichan exploiter used.
This is a genuine question and is not smarm, for the record
No.180404
>>180167So what do you propose... that someone spends days repeatadly asking if your code is broken using slightly different wording?
No.180462
>>180404Someone should ask that new Kimi model
No.180821
Someone is DDoS world2ch.net
No.180875
cui bono?
No.180876
>>180821Why though? is it Heyuri people again?
Also this week's been surprisingly slow for happenings, has nothing happened?
No.180945
>>180927extremely kuso ai slop
would be nice if they actually tried
No.180954
>>180945At least they kept the minty foolfuuka colors
So easy in the eyes.
No.180958
>>180927actually disgusting
No.181182
>>180978This looks better, but I still think this is ai generated. Which isn't necessarily a problem, but the gradient still makes it look worse
No.181277
8moe news: Seems mark has ragequit his /v/ BO position over /bag/ drama.
So ends the mark-acid partnership of almost 10 years.
No.181279
>>181278unless i got my 8lore wrong mark dropped all other responsibilities and only remained as /v/ BO while still being friends with acid.
No.181288
>>181277I presume it had to do with the shitstorm regarding the gacha changes?
I don't use 8moe, but I didn't see it on 4/bag/. It probably happened while I was at w*rk. No.181291
>>181279Wasn't being /v/'s owner his only responsibility?
No.181362
8moe sucks and I have no idea why people use it. Any imageboard that's about freedum first and foremost is not a good place if you only want hobby discussion. But I guess every single imageboards that allows board creation is like that.
No.181367
>>181362The original 8chan taught me not everyone is ready to moderate a board.
No.181418
>>181362It looks like 4chin so it's what refugees use.
I really fucking hate the multiple images per post it's just so fucking retarded. I also hate that you have IDs everywhere, basically proto-reddit
No.181421
>>181362Multiple attachments and board creation are a meme. Still, I went there during April since that's where everyone was while I kept lurking smaller altchans and occasionally posting on them. Also, the best kind of administration an imageboard can have is a benevolent dictatorship.
>>181418IDs are up to the board owner, at least.
No.181425
What's wrong with multiple files in one post?
No.181426
>>181425It leads to performance problems (which was seen during 8moe's refugee crisis) and most threads just being image dumps which is a bit of a disaster if your IB is already kinda dead. I actually think it kills discussion.
No.181427
>>181425Do you want every thread to turn into a fucking dump?
No.181428
>>181427Doesn't happen on other sites. Maybe that's unique to 8ch?
No.181429
For what it's worth, it's not ALWAYS a bad idea. It's good for a board like /h/, /e/ and etc. but for actual discussion, it sucks.
No.181430
Actual discussion is a deliberate choice made by the users. The site features are irrelevant. You can find deeper discussions on Twitter than most chans despite imageboards being the better platform technically.
No.181431
>>181430>than most chansMost alive chans will have better discussion than xitter even if it's some retarded kuso topic. Twitter's format is genuinely awful for everything that isn't just farming karma/likes/izzat or whatever it's called now.
No.181432
>>181431I understand how you feel but that's only proving my point.
No.181433
>>181430>You can find deeper discussions on Twitter than most chans Lol no.
Most "discussions" on twitter just end up in dogpiling
No.181434
>>181432Literally how. I just said that site features ARE relevant and that twitter is fucking awful.
No.181435
>>181430My experience of imageboards over the years shows that something as small as changing the bump limit can really impact how users post, so imagine something big like multiple attachments. I think it's interesting.
No.181437
>>181430>You can find deeper discussions on TwitterThis is bait right?
No.181438
>>181430>Actual discussion is a deliberate choice made by the users.This is true.
>The site features are irrelevant.This is taurine excrement. Twitter combines unrelated threads into one centralized feed, boosts posts that generate engagement with no regard for substance or tone, and boosts posts by users with many followers regardless of topic. That clearly affects how discussion plays out, to the point that many users leave for different Twitter-like platforms specifically because they lack those features.
Imageboard features could obviously affect discussion in similar ways. It's just that imageboard software has been so similar for decades that we don't have a lot of material for comparison.
No.181440
I said Twitter is worse and yet deep discussions are still possible and you read "Twitter is better". Most imageboard users are interested in wasting their own time and wasting yours and there are no technical features that will change that. Whether you can attach a single image or many is irrelevant to how people choose to conduct themselves.
No.181442
Reminder that 4chan initially didn't even have image replies. You'd post a thread with an image and the replies were more or less a comment section.
No.181443
>>181430>You can find deeper discussions on Twitter than most chansExamples of such discussions? I have a highly curated Twitter feed and seen none of that.
No.181444
>>181443Yeah, back when I had a twitter account, twitter "discussions" were so thoroughly restrained by the word limit that all you ever saw anyone do was pile on eachother or try to get likes with memes.
It was easier to win arguments by just posting more than the other guy, because typing a lot is annoying when you need to make multiple posts.
I guess you could make a case about 4chan not having especially in depth discussions compared to say, Forums. I still attend a few that have high standards and moderation and aren't dead and they're the places where you actually talk to people with real life experience and theoretical knowledge and can actually break stuff down. On 4chan you're mostly guessing they're right unless you can prove it yourself. On twitter they don't even do that outside of maybe making giant "threads" which don't make for good interaction and are more for reading.
No.181445
>>181443tpot. No idea what obscure items the other anons are discussing.
No.181462
>>181442We should do that for a month
No.181466
>>181440This is retarded, how literally any community of any form is structured will affect how users "choose to conduct themselves"
No.181467
>>181466It can to some extent but the point is that the quality of users is more important. The most popular non-English chan uses multiple files and most replies are still text only under 80 chars since that's the kind of culture it has. Having multiple file attachments on Kissu wouldn't suddenly change the character of the board. Note that this isn't a feature request.
No.181469
>>181467> Having multiple file attachments on Kissu wouldn't suddenly change the character of the board.Yes it would lol.
No.181471
>>181469What would you do differently?
No.181473
>>181471NTA but I'd make research paper tier posts. Figure 1, 2, 3, results at figure 4...
No.181474
>>181471Even more threads would look like an image dump and kill discussion.
If enter a thread and the first 3 posts I see have 20 images I'm closing that fucking tab.
No.181475
>>181473That would be very interesting. I'd read your posts.
>>181474Why do you think your fellow anons would do that? Why are you the exception?
No.181476
>>181475One must only look at smug/a/ to see what multiple image files does to a board.
No.181478
>>181477I believe most, if not all, anons here feel the same way.
No.181506
>>181475>Why do you think your fellow anons would do that? Because moving you eyes and scrolling for readable, interesting content involves real mental work and time.
If 80% of the interface is noise, and you have to stop and spend time searching for readable, interactable content, its going to tire you out.
This isn't a matter of taste or expectation, this is a utilirian approach to the subject. If your threads are HARD TO READ, fewer people will read them. Or if you prefer another perspective: More people will mentally calculate the signal to noise ratio and conclude it's not worth replying to the thread.
The other anon's example is way too extreme tbh, it doesn't matter if it's one or five images. He's right that the image block being visually much larger than the actual test is more "expensive" to read than having a single thumbnail. But I believe he's thinking of large hundred+ posts threads that are 80% images or more. Doesn't even need to be images, if 80% of the thread is noise, its simply going to have less people willing to engage in it.
4/hap/ discusses this often, because the worst dedicated schizos there learned to kill threads by flooding them with on-topic images. Mods believe as a matter of policy that if the images are on-topic outside thread context, they get to stay.
Not even jannies are allowed to BR them because they don't break a global rule, they can't touch them even if they know and can prove they are maliciously posted.
No.181509
>>181367The original 8chan taught me not everyone is ready for freedom.
No.181598
>>181362I'm glad that the imageboard happenings thread can always recycle the "8moe sucks why do people use it" discussion every single fucking time the imageboard is brought up, without fail, with no regard for any of the prior discussions that raised the exact same point that happened a few weeks/months prior.
I don't even use 8moe cause I think it sucks, but I don't need to hear that parroted every other time in here, I think people are aware
No.181613
>>181610
doesn't work on my machine, so maybe
No.181618
>>181610
The data center it's hosted on lost power.
No.181627
>>181618Interestingly archive.org is also down due to a power outage
No.181629
>>181627desu was out as well
No.181694
I randomly remembered the existence of lurkmore.com wiki only to find out they're still alive as well as their imageboards, some domains got suspended by njalla earlier this april though.
No.181708
does anyone know the website that /scv/ went to after they got kicked off of 4chan? my friend tells me its odd and interesting to observe
No.181792
>>181694wow it's been a long time since I ever thought about them too. What a throwback.
No.181827
>>181430I don't know about discussion per se but twitter at this point is a better aggregator of content, algorithm and all, than any of the extant imageboards are.
That's historically what imageboards were good at, not long form discussions which were explicitly banished to the textboards back in the day.
No.181846
>>181827>aggregator of contentI don't know how you could ever believe that imageboards were even attempting to me this.
No.181847
>>181827You must be stupid to believe what you post, please tell me this is bait.
No.181850
>>181846It doesn't surprise me at this point when we're 15 years down the catalog/4chanX driven extinction of imageboard culture.
However the competitive and aggregating mechanics of imageboards were well understood at the time, before those mechanics were torn out by their roots in favor of degrading the imageboard into a chatroom directory.
No.181852
>>181850Do you seriously prefer endlessly scrolling?
No.181884
Claude, suck my dick.
No.181915
>>181850>>181827>"were torn"Imageboards just got faster than what they were designed to handle. There's no more to it.
To saw its twitter 0.1 is rather misleading, because one line post sharing was such a small part of 4chan's engagement. Layered comedy, content creating and the user-facing anonymity effect was what matters to this day. Page 1 meta was a thing because of these things and *specifically* on the off-topic boards where all the mindless shitposting was in.
>which were explicitly banished to the textboards back in the day.Not true in the slightest. Textboards exist because Shii bugged moot to let him host his 2ch bss clone, people literally forgot they existed as soon as Shii walked away.
No.182113
Some late smugloli webring news. A few sites joined that webring and others died. Prolikewoah was shut down and I think all their boards moved to trashchan. An IB dedicated to an MLP fan youtube series called "Canterlot Royal Ballet Academy" joined the webring, then died almost immediately. The new sites are lainboard and arisuchan, both Serial Experiments Lain themed IBs, and homurachan, a Madoka Magica themed IB that claims to be meguca's old /pol/ community.
No.182149
>>181915>Not true in the slightest.Banner text telling you on /v/ to fuck off to /games/ is the clearest memory of it I have. The rest is old irc kuso where the mods themselves would tell you to fuck off to the textboards but you can't audit that claim as easily.
>Layered comedy, content creating and the user-facing anonymity effect was what matters to this day.It's pure game theory. Absent the mechanical reward of captured page 0 eyeballs/posters the content creation aspect of 4chan (and the broader community of imageboards which are unfortunately fruit of a poisoned tree) simply does not matter. You can argue intra-general thread it still mechanically matters, but at the board level it does not and that is very different from how it used to be in the imageboard's heyday.
At the board level the imageboard has become what I call it, the chatroom directory. There's no longer a competition for page 0 and so the imageboard's ability to filter for and select for highly engaging content is a thing of the past. Something even a shitheap like Twitter with all of its algorithmic distortions still does better than a modern imageboard at this point.
No.182186
>>182113The MLP site was run by an autist overfixated on a decade old Deviantart fanfic and would also spam it everywhere. I'm surprised it was affiliated with a the other sites at all.
No.182194
>>181915>Imageboards just got faster than what they were designed to handle. There's no more to it.Speed has nothing to do with it. Imageboards were poisoned by social media, like the rest of the web, then came the decline. Social media is meant to push your emotional buttons to generate a response so when it went big it led to the type of posting that plagues almost every imageboard today.
You could trace almost every reason why imageboards are bad now back to social media.
No.182210
>>182194>Social media is meant to push your emotional buttons to generate a response so when it went big it led to the type of posting that plagues almost every imageboard today.What? Half of the game of imageboards was farming (You)s.
I swear people come to the most ridiculous vibes based narratives in this thread, about whatever their priors tell them is the actual clear-cut reality of whatever happened
No.182219
>>182218Otamin pulled the plug (again)
No.182220
>>182149>Banner text telling you on /v/ to fuck off to /games/ is the clearest memory of it I have. you have 100% of the textboards archived from start to end, and you can see them die months from being made unless its /prog/ or /g/.
Only boards where mods actively discouraged discussion were the porn boards which in there eyes were image dumps and nothing more.
No.182221
>>182219probably got pulled from the server host again for not adequately deleting CP
No.182222
>>182220> /prog/ or /g/*/prog/ or /vip/
No.182240
>>182221I have no idea how it keeps coming back when the oatman clearly doesn't give a kuso about moderation or the SSL cert but at the same time he extends the domain and seems to bring the server up every time.
I also have no idea how people who sometimes run imageboards have no time to visit their own damn site at least once a day and catch up with everything when there's a dozen of posts daily, it takes like 5 minutes.
No.182254
>>182210>farming (You)s.This is a post-social media development. Imageboards arose during a time when the purpose of content was still to either inform, entertain, or express creativity, so all activity was centered on doing that. We can see the difference by comparing 4chan screencaps from the early years to the modern era, because old screencaps focused on the post and the interaction itself while modern screencaps focus on the collective and its reaction.
No.182256
>>182254>This is a post-social media developmentmore like post-screencap culture development
No.182257
>>182149>Something even a shitheap like Twitter with all of its algorithmic distortions still does better than a modern imageboard at this pointno way. I miss all the cool stuff of categories I press "like" on all the time.
No.182276
>>4165To the imageboards admins, how much resources get used up by your site? (also are you running nginx or apache?)
No.182277
>>182276nginx
servers use 2gb of ram, three cores each (can run on one but i have other services going on as well)
No.182278
>>182276Apache is kinda not a good engine
No.182282
>>182278How so? do you mean in terms of performance or security?
No.182283
>>1822772gb at all times? is it because of traffic or just the IB engine you're using?
No.182309
>>1822761-2 GB of RAM and 1-2 cores to run meguca, caddy and postgres. Usually on the lower end.
No.182667
>>179608>srirachai like how the only external dependency you need to install is just a database
speaking of him, he became homeless recently and is asking for help, so if anyone is feeling generous...
>>182276512 mb 1vcpu
i also run postfix+dovecot on it
i could probably get away with even less if i was running alpine instead of debian
No.182698
>>182667>speaking of him, he became homeless recently and is asking for helpthat's horrible news, the guy was pretty important for early altchans
No.183117
>>183116big patche boobie
No.183121
>>183111It seems to be back online, unless you were talking about a different paperchan
https://paperchan.club/ No.183124
>>183121This site would be so good if they just banned all the sharty kuso
No.183127
>>183124Sadly, many imageboard mods are allergic to moderation because they are retarded
No.183160
>>183124admin said that the only thing he bans is csem links
in a perfect world all the shartoid splinter self-advertising, failed canvas and textposts would be banned but what can ya do.
No.183161
>>183160on the bright side, the project is open source so if someone really wanted to make their own version they could.
https://github.com/vulonkaaz/paperchan.club/i think that's how paperweb managed to make a clone of it, but that site is dead now.
No.183162
>>183127A lot of new imageboard owners are young and probably don't know imageboard culture before political shitposting and post-Covid /qa/ kuso, so i assume it's just normalized to them. Very few modern imageboards take moderation seriously.
No.183166
>>183127>>183162Why contain it?
The young aren't at fault because they have no point of reference. The older people who threw away the old internet for the modern abomination are to blame.
But either way young or old they aren't going to listen. All we can really do is prioritize and improve our personal spaces, and at the end of the day that's all that really matters.
No.183172
>>183171>I recall seeing someone who sent in a postcard with flanfly drawn on it.Why didn't you talk to him?
No.183184
>>183166>The young aren't at fault because they have no point of referenceI am pretty young and managed to grasp the general idea. But more importantly I have standards. The internet equivalent of dysgenic methhead political discourse never appealed to me.
No one can really be blamed for today's world. It was always going to happen, unfortunately
No.183186
>>183185
>"maybe if we had just tried harder..."
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel any better
No.183187
>>183186He is kinda right though, these days there are too many defeatists who'll just accept anything.
And besides it's always better to do
something rather than just give up and say "oh well, there's nothing I can do."
No.183188
>>183185>>183187Cool. Very nice.
So tell us. How are YOU making the world a better place? We'd love to hear it.
No.183189
>>183187No, it's better to put your time and effort towards things that can actually bear fruit. The rational response to the state of the world is to withdraw and untether yourself from it, and to do things that you like or find fulfilling. If, alternatively, you spend time swimming against the tide of history, you will have wasted precious time
No.184011
>>184008The site seems to be working fine, although laggy. The post content seems the same as it ever was so not sure what else you could mean.
No.184013
>>184012>Not a big fan of the whole "fake nostalgia" thing.Its not any different from someone with an interest in medieval or jurassic settings.
No.184014
>>184012>roleplaying as 2000's internet usersStatements like these always just seem bitter and spiteful, they never really explain the allegedly identified problem anyway.
Heyuri's webmaster being dumb is the real main issue, its only a few degrees removed from cancerman sites due to affiliations, which attracts some dumb people (there are cool people there though)
No.184017
>>184014I think it's a pretty normal and understandable reaction to it, although it's not one that needs to be vocalized for that reason.
Taken in isolation it's nothing, but I think anyone that partook in this type of nerd/otaku culture in the 90s and 00s (and didn't become a self-hating turncoat) feels so thoroughly victimized from everything over the years that they view these things with suspicion instead of indifference. The default stance is to see any outside exposure as a threat because it's been conditioned into the psyche that there will be negative repercussions.
No.184030
>>184012I did that in 2012 LARPing like I was there in 2003. It was fun and it felt like I was one of the cool kids and like I was born in le wrong generation. I laugh now realizing I was basically a proto-kohai in millennial skin. This goes for the normcore aesthetic and all that which orbits it as well, which was not clearly defined at the time nor was it really known or cared about. Do you remember what it was like online in 2012? Exactly, who the fuck cared except annoying special snowflakes like me
No.184038
>>184013I called it something akin to an "imageboard renfair" years back
No.184041
>>184010>>184011That ad they were posting everywhere made me think they were going to be another spinoff or some weird combination of /japan/ and gn and meguca.
Instead their main board is /b/ with camgirls first thing I saw then I turned my attention off
No 'hu board, no 'hu threads, no nothing.
Also the /jp/ board is japanese...
NOT what i expected for a site with the neet of the bamboo forest as their mascot
No.184046
>>184010spam slurs, allow posts of real dead babies, randomly ban stuff for "rule 8" reasons, basically just poisoning the well and being extremely hateful
No.184067
>>184046not surprising considering who owns it
No.184073
>>184041>>184046the founders were spinoff /jp/ kids inspired by 4-ch and textboards. On the broadest terms its focused on retrolarping and its distinct enough that someone from ota or a 2huspammer will not relate at all.
The current leadership, however, is anything but jp. site had an hostile takeover a year into its creation and the guys that run it since are only interested in being treated as the community's kool kids. Everything else including retro is secondary to having their dick sucked.
No.184076
>>184046They have borderline kiddie porn on there too now and posts defending kiddie porn.
No.184079
>>184078Lack of accountability and ease of ban evasion
No.184090
>>184073Wasn't it purchased by the sharty guy
No.184094
>>184078most are made up of 4chan rejects who got thrown out for being obnoxious.
No.184102
>>184090Yep, one of sharty's former admins purchased it in 2020. Now it's owned by one of his friends.
No.184124
Are there any /tg/ alternatives? Was told that here would be a better place to ask then 4chan happening thread.
No.184126
>>184124smuglo.li/tg/ comes to mind, if they're still around
No.184128
>>184124https://thp.moe does Touhou quests and fanfiction but its slow. Still comfy and some great reads though (Even if the thread is dead you can still read the quest stories if they take your fancy)
No.184131
>>184008the thing about heyuri is that they have some good ideas but the site is fun by a retard and his group of equally retarded friends who seem to only be interested in attracting low quality posters. rule 8 is a fairly good idea to clear the site of some of the worst cancer of modern imageboards but is too strictly enforced and codified to the point of making you second guess every word you use in any new post (also the whole site worships this rule like it was created in some benevolent crusade against the modern internet even though it was created by the guy who literally used to own the fucking sharty). the worst thing is that the whole site is explicitly meant for people to larp as being on /b/ circa 2006 or so they claim that they want to create new content rather than just copy old 4chan but all they ever seem to create is unfunny pictures that copy old 4Chan stuff but with Toshiba replaced with their own mascot (or other postings to the like)
No.184132
>>184131Fuck
I meant to say yotsuba rather than Toshiba but I'm posting on a shifty tablet meant for 8 years olds because my main computers broken
No.184133
>>184131>rule 8Prohibiting pepejaks and the endless cycle of "yikes, cringe, etc" is fine in concept but not really an effective way to select against low-value users. Case and point: WizardChan forbids posting them too, lmao. Forbidding "shortening words with [an] apostrophe (e.g. 'yuri instead of heyuri) and the like" is... strange. Is this really a big enough problem that it needs a specific rule?
But banning ""Greentext stories" or any misuse of the quoting feature." is shooting yourself in the foot, lol. It's a highly efficient (and therefore: memetic) form of communication that allows users to speak directly about a subject. It's the easiest way to cut through someone else's bullshit by instead saying--
> this is what is ACTUALLY being said/happening/etcI know we all want to RETVRN, but if you're trying to work against early 2010's 4chan then you're working against your own best interests, because that is when the 'chan was at its peak.
No.184136
>>184133I think it's very reasonable, admirable in fact. The default state of any website today is to be downriver and reactionary to whatever happens on the big sites, complete with screenshots and shared slang and mannerisms. When every site is the same why would people go to a different one? They already have it at "home". The internet of today is groups of people waiting for twitter/etc to invent new culture so they can repost and react to it. They are cavemen huddled in a corner awaiting someone to deliver fire to them each day.
>>184133>if you're trying to work against early 2010's 4chan then you're working against your own best interests, because that is when the 'chan was at its peak.The theme of their site is 00s internet so that's just how it goes. You have to set the line somewhere. Personally I view early 10s as the "beginning of the end" and the "last hurrah" depending on how you look at it. You could see large cracks forming with the ironic shitposting thing that lead to the detached, shame-based culture of today.
No.184138
Btw the sharty guy still has a role in running the site, he's probably about 22 now.
No.184139
>>184133>Forbidding "shortening words with [an] apostrophe (e.g. 'yuri instead of heyuri) and the like" is... strange. Is this really a big enough problem that it needs a specific rule?It's something sharty users do a lot, and since they've managed to make themselves sharty-adjacent, they presumably feel the need to crack down hard on anyone who comes from that site and brings its culture with them.
No.184141
>>184140Develop a real world hobby that you can sink a lot of time into. Once you’ve started doing that, post deliberately embarrassing stuff on image boards so the posters make fun of you and you feel to ashamed to ever post on that site again.
No.184142
>>184140get bored. thats the real answer.
No.184143
>>184141>Develop a real world hobby that you can sink a lot of time intoToo mentally ill for this
>post deliberately embarrassing stuff on image boards so the posters make fun of you and you feel to ashamed to ever post on that site again.I don't want
>>184142Shitposting is too overstimulating to get bored of.
No.184144
>>184140-Make friends and talk to them instead
-Meditate
-Create friction (increase the amount of time and effort required to access such places)
-Go for a walk and leave your phone at home
-Create the habit of working out
No.184145
>>184140Get banned on them.
No.184146
>>184143>Shitposting is too overstimulating to get bored of.well it takes a while
No.184150
>>184148There as interent addicts anonymous over on a certain textboard...
No.184151
I will not stop shitposting. I have no regrets.
No.184152
>>184151You got no regrets now
No.184153
>>184144There's some problems with this advice. If you have been shitposting all your life, it can be pretty hard to make friends. Meditation only really works if you accept the whole framework behind it and what comes with it, like converting to Buddhism, not a bad thing but not everyone's cup of coffee.
Creating friction is the single best piece of advice.
No.184155
>>184140Whats your name so I can make you the site's designated lolcow, that will make you want to quit when we bully you out of any discussion.
No.184160
>>184144>-Make friends and talk to them insteadHow?
>-Meditate¥Too mentally ill for this>-Go for a walk and leave your phone at homeOnce every couple of weeks I go to the pharmacy, I don’t look at my phone because I don’t have internet on it.
>-Create the habit of working out¥Too mentally ill for this>>184145I assure you it's impossible. Although, of course, there are differences in moderation on the shitpost shitholes.
>>184155I don't want to be humiliated.
>>184156What do you mean by that?
No.184161
Also, before I checked this thread again, I didn't have much of an urge to shitpost. Now it's back.
No.184162
>>184160Anon-kun, go blog in the suicide thread, you fucking faggot~! ☆
No.184180
>>184160>Too mentally ill for thisAt least give it a try
No.184182
>>184140Leechblock plugin for the browser
No.184186
>>184160>I assure you it's impossible. Although, of course, there are differences in moderation on the shitpost shitholes.I'm sure it's a challenge, but you could find something mods personally find annoying, like back in the old days on KC you could expect a ban for posting THCM.
No.184187
>>184160Go to a Buddhist temple, shave off your hair, and become a monk. You don't need friends. You don't need an income because you just live at the monastery and NEET. Its perfect.
No.184189
>>184186Can't speak for the other anon, but for me it would be impossible because IP bans are too easy to evade.
>>184140Instead of shitposting, why not try effortposting?
No.184191
>>184186I want to stop visiting that site, but you are challenging me and provoking me to go there.
No.184193
>>184189Effortposting on an imageboard? That's the most unrewarding thing imaginable.
No.184202
>>184200>>184201KOG or just an imitator?
No.184203
>>184202What? I just watched the numbers and took my chance
No.184204
>>184200>>184201checked, very nice
No.184205
>>184200Good job man, congrats.
>>184202The spirit of GETs lives on...
No.184206
>>184202oooh wait you're referring to King Of Gets, I'm not that guy, I just know he's not around anymore
No.184311
>>184193It depends on the imageboard, but yeah basically I agree with you.
I stopped making OCs because of that (well...not really, I just stopped hoping that other anons will make the effort)
No.184314
>>184202KoG officially announced retirement in July of last year.
No.184315
>>184140Get arrested and spend a few weeks in jail (really helps you get offline)
Stop paying internet bills and get cut off by your ISP
Check yourself into a psychiatric ward
Become the village lolcow on the boards you frequent and quit out of embarrassment
Meet your fellow anons irl and realize they are pathetic people
Commit suicide
>>184133Other imageboards need to stop tying themselves to 4chan. Mimicking 2000s 4chan is a really stupid idea and leads to a culture of fakery.
No.184320
>>184140The thing that actually got me off imageboards was joining some chatroom and interacting with people there, though I stopped doing that after few years, I think I just prefer anonymity
No.184489
>>184315>Mimicking 2000s 4chan is a really stupid idea and leads to a culture of fakery.Trying to top down enforce culture is fakery but trying to recreate the mechanics of 00's 4chan will get you something that resembles, in principal but not culture, old 4chan.
But the ability at all to enforce something like heyuri's rule 8 is something 4chan itself did not have in the 00's. So necessarily you get an imageboard that does not resemble how 4chan ticked and tocked in the 00's.
I've said it before but the average user from the 2010's would positively despise old 4chan. Too anarchic, too much 'ignore kuso you don't like'. But you needed that for organic culture to crawl out of the sea of filth. Modern rulesfags see a bit of evolution anywhere and they strangle it in the cradle, so you end up with pepes/wojacks or whatever the culture was right when the rulesfags ossified it until the heat death of the universe.
No.184497
>>184489The average user in the 00's would create things. The average user from the 2010's would consume things.
No.184505
>>184497You make oc you get banned for off topic. The whole incentive structure of the modern imageboard is upside down.
People rightly criticize Reddit, or any thread voting system, for enforcing tepid inoffensive averageness. But that's exactly how 4chan is moderated by it's cabal and the users reporting these days, what offends anyone is deleted and only the mundane is left standing.
No.184528
>>184489a lot of words when heyuri is just infinity hardcore loli anal hentai and stalking little girls on tiktok
No.184535
>>184534>hey*riNo thank you.
No.184547
It's okay to dislike things, but the reactions to those kids seems a bit too heated. There's a lot worse things they could be doing.
No.184552
>>184542im not one to vilify ai, but man i do i lose interest on a project the moment they admit to using ai. obviously ai is just another tool, and it can definitely help push a project foward and reduce tedium and what not, but i still find it lame either way.
on a side note, are you the cyberix admin?
every image ive seen him post make always has the same anti-aliasing disabled font
No.184554
>>184542i don't get why vibecoders have such little respect for themselves they let ai agents make their own commits
No.184556
>>184552i mean at the same time it's allegedly a public-facing, semi-anonymous file uploader with authentication. it's the last thing you'd want to vibecode since a lot could go very wrong.
No.184557
>>184556depends how irresponsible the devs are with it, still though i agree that id would probably be better without it, or atleast feel more trustworthy
No.184558
>>184557*it would
im retarded
No.184634
>>184632wapchan is also moving to it soon
No.184636
>>184632>>184634i guess this is in response to the devs abandoning vichan?
No.184668
Maybe they want to do something PHP can't. Otherwise you could just maintain vichan and add your own modificiations. Trim out parts/refactor where it's amateurish.
No.184673
>>184668vichan is inherently clunky, they probably didn't want to have to deal with the confusing theme system and rebuilding pages. better to start fresh
No.184677
>>184673well, tbh, kissu doesn't touch any of that in the backend
No.184686
>>184542>After two years, basic features such as restoring deleted posts were implemented alongside massive overhauls to the site's codebase.>basic features such as restoring deleted postshm? which other imageboard softwares have that feature?
No.184696
>>184686publicly available ones? Probably like none of them, but all you have to do to attain this is create a board which you've triggered to be inaccessible outside of access from mods.
No.184720
>>184632In a sea of copypaste jschan sites, it's good to know that at least some boards still care about having a good homepage
No.184743
>>184686Lynxchan. By default posts are trashed when an user or a low-level staff member deletes them, and after a certain amount of days they are purged from the server. Posts in the trash can be restored by another staff member at their own discretion. High-level staff can purge posts directly without sending them to the trash (useful for illegal content).
No.184814
>>184632I don't like the look of Hikari3 but they clearly modified the hell out of it here because it looks almost identical to vichan
No.184817
>>184632im so jealous of this design, it looks so damn good
No.184819
>>184632>>184634That got me curious, but now I'm left wondering
how anyone is moving to it.
No.184820
>>184819figamin is one of the devs for koshi
No.184821
>>184819releasing their source code would probably be a bad idea in the end
No.184823
>>184821Why's that? Releasing it would allow more people to switch or use it.
No.184824
>>184823yeah but it also means its easier to develop bots for it, not to mention find and exploit any vulnerabilities the code might have aswell
No.184825
>>18481939chan koshi source has not been merged upstream yet
No.184827
>>184819Site is run by a team and that includes the owner of wapchan
No.184830
>>184820>>184825>>184827That explains some things but raises some other questions.
>>184821>>184824Such as these. That's a culture shift I don't really understand. (Granted, I've never run an imageboard, so I may be missing something.)
The thinking used to be that many eyes make all bugs shallow, with a second unspoken assumption that any healthy project/community will have more defenders than attackers. As long as the code and site-specific config files are cleanly separated, releasing the code shouldn't give attackers any real advantage. Any exploits they find could be fixed as soon as they play their hand, and any damage could be undone as long as admins kept proper backups.
That thinking apparently changed at some point, but as far as I can tell as an observer, that's not really warranted. 4chan may attract ever more sophisticated attacks because it's a high-value target with a tech-biased userbase and enough activity to hide trial-and-error attacks among the noise, but the main threats to smaller imageboards seem to be dumb teens who get bored quickly, manual Russian CP spammers (who aren't deterred by supar sekrit source code as long as they can find the Submit button), and the usual modern internet background noise of bots with predictable keyword spam that is easily filtered by lists that wouldn't normally be included in source repos.
So why do devs of smaller imageboard engines gravitate to this new defensive stance as if they're Hiro being targeted by literal glowsuits, potentially at the expense of imageboard culture as a whole because secrecy makes it harder for admins to launch new imageboards that stand a chance of surviving against the smaller threats they're more likely to encounter in the wild?
No.184832
>>184830>So why do devs of smaller imageboard engines gravitate to this new defensive stanceI imagine a lot of these admins are paranoid of these issues, especially with how pervasive the stories of schizos, bots, and sharteens have been over the years, nobody wants to spend every waking moment moderating their site waiting for these internet boogeyman to roll up to kuso all over their work, so they end up taking very obtuse or extreme measures to avoid these sort of situations, i can't say i blame them either, when you consider most of these sites are run by a team of 3 or 4 people.
No.184834
>>184819If the github page is linked at all and they've already stated that Wapchan will use it soon then i assume they have the intention to make it public eventually. Besides a lot of the features on 39chan are unfinished if the /meta/ thread is anything to go by so they're likely polishing it and using 39chan as a guinea pig before publishing it.
No.184835
>>184834If not that then they're perfecting it for 39chan first because it's more high traffic than Wapchan. If i'm not mistaken the site has a lot of overlap with VO, which used to be the most active Vocaloid forum before it shut down so it'd make sense.
No.184837
hi
koshi backend and base frontend won't remain closed source for too much longer, though the wapchan and 39chan specific frontends will remain closed source
the engine was originally closed source from its days on hikari3, and then i was granted access to the source after helping out a bit there, and then i made the decision to move the sites i work on to it since the codebase was decent. however to facilitate this i made major modifications (mainly to expand out features and use mariadb and the existing vichan tables instead of the lynxchan derived system). all of this work was done on a separate branch and needs to be merged upstream into base koshi, which will have an interface closer to base vichan. atm i'm working on the wapchan move and after that i'll do the upstreaming and writing the documentation. honestly we just forgot to remove the link
>>184830imageboards aren't extremely unique pieces of software so there is little actual reason to keep this closed source besides the fact that it just wasn't polished for public use. keeping the site specific frontends closed was mainly just so our css isn't potentially being used on sites we don't want to associate with
No.184840
>>184830>So why do devs of smaller imageboard engines gravitate to this new defensive stance as if they're Hiro being targeted by literal glowsuits, potentially at the expense of imageboard culture as a whole because secrecy makes it harder for admins to launch new imageboards that stand a chance of surviving against the smaller threats they're more likely to encounter in the wild?Inflated sense of ego. Meanwhile all of these "sekrit club" communities devolve into circlejerking about how enlightened they are while little actual discussion/OC creation takes place and the IB dies sooner or later.
>>184832Average sharteens aren't particularly hard to stop, though the other groups remain an issue.
No.184842
>>184840nta but that same captcha is also what stopped bots on wapchan
No.184845
>>184840There should be a captcha where you have to capture a spell card to post
No.184849
>>184632Much better. All my criticisms of 39 cyberstructure are actually gone now.
No.184864
>>184632Don't forget to type "adamsan" anywhere on the frontpage for a surprise
No.184868
>>184837good work, honestly. the site feels more solid.
No.184887
>>184835It's kinda funny how they were somehow able to attract users by being a fandom focused imageboard and now you have all kinds of creative projects being made there. Some guy is making a Vocaloid mod for Doom(1993) that has rocket jumping and ragdoll physics.
I wish we hade more stuff like that beyond just 39chan and Uboachan. I think there was a Homestuck one recently though, wasn't it?.
No.184915
>>184887There's a couple Touhou imageboards out there, and also Snowchan has been a thing for years
No.184921
>>184887I'm surprised
Sonic the Hedgehog doesn't have its own imageboard. It has a board or two on other sites at least.
No.184923
>>184921I could've sworn there was one in the early 2010's but maybe I just got it mixed up with one of the other imageboards that do have a Sonic board
No.184924
>>184923plus4chan and 8chan (in pretty much all its incarnations) had Sonic boards.
No.184932
>>184922hehe wap
funny name
No.184933
>>184887For themed chans still alive there's a few MLP related ones (most of which were made around the time the series was still relevant on the internet), some K-pop related ones (Heolkek and the Russian one), and /azu/ which gets a lot of spam but is still kicking. I'd prefer to see more of those than any kind of splinter remotely based on that site we shall not speak of.
No.184939
>>184933man, i really dont dig any of those themes
No.184955
>>184939Neither do i, but i'm at least glad that they exist for the people that do
No.184965
https://www.php.net/index.php#2026-10-20-1https://cert.europa.eu/publications/security-advisories/2026-018/A reminder to update your PHP version before script kiddies and bot farms rape you.
The fact that these critical vulnerabilities were disclosed on the same day the new Cyberpunk anime came out is a really funny coincidence.
No.184970
>>1849654chan is down now applying this update
No.184972
MOOT LIED
PEOPLE DIED
No.184973
>>184970isn't the update not out
No.184978
>>184976php exploit detected so every site shut down is waiting for the fix
No.184980
>>184976Netflix did the biggest marketing stunt in history by hacking the entire internet the same day they released their anime about hackers in a post-internet world.
No.184984
Holy kuso the internet actually did shut down
No.184987
>>184976desu being down is the biggest surprise because that's where most anons congregate when stuff like this happens. This is definitely big, large even. This might be /hap/ of the year.
No.184988
Doesn't kissu have at least some php?
No.184989
>>184988Kissu is a Node.js app.
No.184991
>>184989>PHP 56.1%Mmmm
Vern I need reassurances
No.184992
>>184922Pretty funny they switched from Vichan right before this happened
No.184993
>>184976wapchan and 39chan aren't
fun fact: koshi is php free
No.184994
>>184993A lot of the JSchan boards as well as the low traffic vichan boards seem to be up as well
>koshi is php freeGood
No.184996
How long will things be down for?
No.184998
>>184991You get none. It's probably overreacting. 4chan has reason to be exploit conscious after a hack.
Most of the time these things require a specific set of steps presupposing someone already has access to send whatever type of information they want into certain functions
No.185000
Finally, no one will be able to see my cringey posts from when I was a teenager anymore.
No.185010
>>184996For a normal site? for as soon as the patches are out and the admin applies them.
For 4chan?
One day to wait for the release of the patches and for MVB and desuwa to see them.
Another day for MVB and desuwa to apply the patches to 4chan.
Another 3 days for MVB and desuwa to fix all the problems caused by modifying 4chan's files (5 if they first had to update the PHP version before applying the patches).
No.185011
a lot of old vichan boards and wordpress sites are about to get pwned...
No.185019
>>184976>Even soyjak is downShame it'll be back tomorrow
No.185020
>>185014That's it. I'm taking away your smudge tool privileges.
No.185023
>>184987Ghost posting is really shadow of what it once was anyway. Honestly that turn of phrase doesn't go far enough, it's really fucking dead.
No.185024
>>184993what language is it actually written in? php is hell
No.185026
>>184976arch.b4k.dev is also down.
>>184996At least a day
>>185014freakyhina
No.185027
>>185021>should we migrate to 4chan againDoes he know
No.185030
>>185021Doesn't the booru run on Shimmie which uses PHP?
No.185032
Shouldn't kissu be down as well?
No.185036
>>185032The exploit is known but the information isn't released yet. The info is supposed to be released tomorrow.
From what I have gathered though, it has something to do with session-upload tracking, which is a feature that allows sites to have an upload progress bar with minimal effort. So, a site could get rid of that and theoretically be fine-with a slightly worse user experience.
No.185040
>>185030Not anymore, they changed it to some vibecoded "nuuru" software that they made and it looks atrocious as hell
No.185048
>>185036I haven't verified anything, but there's a guy who has claimed to have rediscovered the vulnerability with AI assistance who posted proof of concept exploit code publicly on his website. It's probably a good idea to turn off session-upload tracking like everyone is recommending (including the guy posting the PoC code) until the patch.
No.185050
>>184976And yet Kissu just rolls on as always.
Isn't that amazing!?
No.185055
>>185054Ui chan sure gets around
No.185057
>>185054Okay, a POC demonstration technically isn't information but fair play. I was running with an outdated report when I said that-and it was outdated when I actually said that.
Still, I don't think it's publicly known what's ACTUALLY going on yet beyond it being a 2 Use-After-Free vulnerabilities and it somehow being linked to the session-upload tracking.
No.185070
the funny thing is that a certain set of sites with super old perl codebases are fine (like craigslist)
No.185074
Daily Log No.XX
It has been nearly 12 hours since the shutdown. I haven't slept. I've just been refreshing all my favorite chans hoping they'll come back. I'm starting to hear voices that aren't mine. I can't remember the last time I talked to another human being. My chicken nuggie rations are starting to run low. This may be my last log.
No.185081
Why was boards.* made read only instead of turning it off completely? Board frontend is not php?
No.185083
Where have all the weebs gone now that desuarchive is down?
No.185089
>>185087Same, but feels kinda slow compared to usual /ghost/posting
No.185090
>>18508990% of /ghost/ is just /dbs/ subhumans and other miscellaneous shitters spamming anyway.
No.185091
>>185083The people with absolute loyalty to 4/a/ use desuarchive's ghostposting, but with that down I think they're just screwed. Meta talks about other 2D boards crop up on those places pretty often so they should at least know of them, /jp/ in particular has a storied history going back like 16 years of this. The people on other boards I'm not so sure.
No.185093
>>185091Many people will just go to 8shit. I really hate that place, not only do I hate the IDs and the multiple image uploads, I hate the native users too.
No.185096
>>185083they committed sudoku
No.185097
I have to wonder if any IBs will bother moving away from php after this. Ignoring the archives how feasible is that? Can't be that hard
>>185093There's some random person incessantly bitching about 8chan every month in this thread. No one cares that they live rent free in your head, genuinely.
No.185098
>>185097>No one cares that they live rent free in your head, genuinely.You do otherwise you wouldn't mention it. It's a kuso board deal with it.
No.185103
8chan and its derivatives are a valid topic of discussion in this thread so I don't think anyone should be bothered by it.
>>185097>I have to wonder if any IBs will bother moving away from php after thisIt's all about willpower and motivation. So many boards have died over the years because they started going months without mod intervention to remove illegal images or allowed spam to wipe out the entire catalog.
This is an advantage that the 20 year-olds making boards have over the people that have been running them foor a long time. Few people create a hobby site and imagine what they'll be doing for it 20 years later.
No.185111
>>185105No I don't want that!
No.185112
>>185093New thread IDs can be created by booting up Tor. Its a non issue
No.185113
>>1850938kun is so slow. It's a ghost town.
No.185114
>>185112this is the whole reason thread ids are dogshit, it only makes it easier for schizos and professionals to pretend to be multiple people
No.185115
desuarchive is back
No.185116
>>185115I think the patch might be out then?
No.185121
there was the patched version for modern versions a while ago. Older versions had a 'build from source code' solution
No.185122
have to get off my ass and get off DEAD ROTTING vichan now, it feels like I dragged my feet long enough.
Thank I'll go with JSchan since 'JS is the best' and all that
No.185124
>>185114>professionals(schizos)
No.185125
>>185124my profession is schizophrenia(unemploy
ment)
No.185126
>>185093Depends of the thread, just don't touch the active ones like the meta or the gamergate one.
No.185129
>desu/ghost/ back online
>the first thing /ghost/posters want to talk about is norms
No.185130
>>185114Oh, I thought you were complaining because they de anonymized users.
No.185131
>>185114you could just disable tor on your site
No.185132
>>185131IDs are cancer because of the deanonymization
No.185133
>>185132Entirely dependent on pph. Fast boards need it yesterday.
No.185135
>>185133If you want to get rid of schizos then just pay your jannies a few more 0s so they clean up the threads.
No.185136
>>185135Volunteer mods are not efficient enough.
Either you samefag way more than is normal or you only post on general threads.
No.185138
>>185132How so? just discuss about the topic, don't bring in irl stuff.
No.185139
>>185133>>185138There are already schizophrenics that obsess over identity and attempt to track people based on filenames and observed posting patterns. IDs just foster that mindset.
No.185140
>>185139That's a system problem, most of the threads I go in 8kun are free of schizos, for three reasons:
1. We don't care about anyone's personal life
2. We strictly stick to the topic at hand, if someone brings up drama we ignore it completely.
3.No one is competing for who's right or wrong when discussing something (<----this is the most important one)
If there's schizos in your thread or board is because someone festered them, they threw a bone at them to make them dance for their own enternaiment, but the catch is that said schizos will think they are in good company and grow into really mentally ill people who's entire personality is trying to own someone who wronged them before and bring the entire thread down for it.
No.185145
>>185139/v/ has so many repeat offenders that its common to see people take screenshots of the archive to show one spammer using the exact same image several times with a similar posting style, so its not hard to believe that there are paid/unpaid people out there shitting up 4chan with a similar script and image set.
No.185146
https://scotthelme.co.uk/eight-bits-of-trust-emudhras-ca-keys-cracked-in-milliseconds/https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083449Everyone is too busy panicking over the PHP exploits to notice that a certificate authority (from India no less) was pwned. Most browsers can deal with these borked certificates, but other software may require manual intervention.
No.185149
>>185146>(from India no less)Who'd have guessed.
AI driven exploit warfare will get pretty crazy.
No.185150
>>185146who tf is using emudhra brotherman
No.185151
I'm surprised how little activity there is on the altchans, I thought somewhere like 8moe would be buzzing like last time we had that outage a while back.
No.185152
>>185151Some people simply moved on, or went to discord.
No.185153
>>1851514chan's flippin DEAD
No.185154
>>185151There's no controversy to go along with the downtime and it's going to be resolved soon.
No.185155
>>185151I remember when 8chan went down at its peak for a day or two it immediately rippled out to the other sites. It's concerning to see that isn't happening with 4chan.
When 4chan finally goes down for good we're probably going to be all that's left for the foreseeable future.
Maybe cool was right... and the Suigintou poster shouldn't have been bullied...
No.185156
>>185154That was my thinking.
But you need momentun to keep momentum.
No.185158
>>185151Either people are waiting it out or 4chan is full of spambots. Still surprising though.
No.185165
>>185164Feel the inertia and do it anyway.
No.185168
its STILL down
No.185170
>>185168thank you jesus
rest in piss
hiroshima deserved it
No.185172
Do we have any idea what PHP version was 4chan running? If they were running a version too old to receive security updates, they could be down for a while rewriting code to get it to work with the new PHP version. This should have been fixed when they did security updates after the hack, but I could easily imagine 4chan staff not really learning anything from it.
No.185173
*the latest hack
No.185175
>>1851724chan getting hacked/going for multiple days two years in a row... I'd love that
No.185178
>>185176
Hypothetically, would things change if Hiroshit dumped gapeape for some reason?
No.185180
>>185178/Pol/ might finally get contained. The frogspam might not since that's "le 4chan culture" now I guess.
No.185181
>>185176
imagine your website being so dreadful that not even your head admin wants to doomscroll on it
hirohito sure knows how to pick em
No.185182
>>185178Frankly I'm not even sure Hirohoto remembers he bought the site in the first place, let alone cares about it enough to change anything.
No.185183
>>185180the frogspam has to be astroturfed bs, i swear that site is 90% bots at this point
No.185184
>>185180Why does rapeape like /pol/?
No.185185
>>185184I've heard rumors he's an afghan vet that likes larping as "right wing". Poetic description of /pol/ tbh.
No.185186
>>185185i heard he graduated top of his class, and that he also has 300 confirmed kills
No.185188
>>185184Trick question: he's a mouthpiece for multiple different intelligence agencies and likely doesn't have any opinions of his own.
No.185189
>>185188He's a very bad one, his twitter replies are some of the most dogshit takes imaginable.
No.185190
Use the 4chan happenings thread if you're to displace imageboard meta talk with 4chan moderator talk
>>167154 No.185193
>>185190you're right, this is the altchan thread after all, why dont we talk about 2channels owner instead, what was his name again? hiro.... hiroshima nagasaki?
No.185194
>>185190Because that one isn't bumping to page 1 for some reason.
No.185196
>>185190My bad, I was just reflexively responding. I'll coninue over there.
Don't know what the delete policy is but if admin can delete some of my posts that I can't, I'd appreciate it.
GOMEN
No.185197
>>185190It's almost as if, if people don't see the thread they won't use it...
No.185199
>>185139If this is such a big deal, IDs could be generated per-thread instead of per-board. Or even, per-date-of-thread. That way the same ID only shows up for a bit in one location(or a limited selection of locations) before it disappears.
No.185201
>>185197its better that way tbhdesu, 4chan should just be forgotten already, theres really nothing more left to be said about it other than how terrible it is now
No.185202
>>185199>If this is such a big deal, IDs could be generated per-thread instead of per-board.Isn't this already how it works?
No.185204
>>185194Yeah, sorry.
It was put on autosage as an experiment but I'll remove it again for the time being since 4chan is down.
No.185205
>>185202Well kuso I might be stupid but I'm pretty sure it's board-wide on 4chan, if not site-wide for all boards that have IDs enabled.
No.185215
4chan died when moot sold out, it's corpse has stumbled along for 12 years when it should have been abandoned.
In fact it was abandoned and a lot of people moved to 8, but they couldn't accept it so they staged the christchurch "shootings" and used the outcry to shut it down and herded the fags back to 4clit.
Every change of the past decade has only confirmed this.
No.185217
>>185215*So the obvious question is why hasn't another altchan taken its place?
No.185220
>>185217because everyone went to twitter instead (or reddit)
No.185222
>>185220>went to twitter instead (or reddit)*went back to
and unfortunately not everyone
No.185223
>>185220But I am still here??
No.185225
>>185224PHP elephant farting CVEs...
No.185227
>>185224dammit i love php, even with their history of vulnerabilities, ill never share that love for anything even remotely related to javascript
No.185228
Do you think this PHP stuff will effect old flash sites that are still up?
No.185230
Y'know, if one wanted to, a white hat hacker could hack into old PHP sites and update the PHP version to protect that site.
No.185232
white hats are just black hats that get paid via legal means
No.185233
>>185232not really. A lot of whitehats are altruistic in nature and interested in academic research
No.185234
Okay, my brain's not firing on all cylinders. I got it mixed up with gray because consent was the deciding factor here. Fair play either way.
No.185239
Who's going to launch a zeroday(or 1st hour) attack on an imageboard that isn't holding people's creditcards or other sensitive data...
No.185241
>>185215>In fact it was abandoned and a lot of people moved to 8It wasn't that many people. It was mostly the ones who wanted to post their e-celeb drama generals.
>christchurch "shootings" Why the quotes, schizo?
No.185243
>>185239teens and schizos or some combo
No.185244
>>185183On /sci/ in particular there's been a guy very blatantly spamming frog threads and dropping by every few days to bump them from page 10.
No.185245
>>185244thats just grim, how did the internet get this bad in only 10 years
No.185248
>>185245>>185245People allowed the coof to happen and threw away their freedoms
No.185251
>>185249people nowdays feel legit insane though, to a scary level, but obviously nostalgia is making me forget the way people behaved in the past aswell
No.185268
>>185266hikari3 has /aca/ and lambdaplusjs has /math/.
Both are rather slow, but it's got to beat stewing in a slowly dying board forever.
No.185270
>>185257What am I supposed to do here? How do you interact with it?
No.185271
>>185270B equals 29 i think
No.185273
>>185266/sci/ got absolutely flooded with shills, and the staff were fully compromised I ate at least 3 bans for stupid petty garbage, so probably others did too, then the schizos and poltards with proxies moved in to do battle with the shills because they were bored.
The place never recovered.
No.185274
In way more cancerous news, another retarded sharty kid committed an attack at his school. This time the attacker was a 16yo moron from Malaysia, who posted in the sharty booru (since the main site is down at the moment) and recorded himself before attacking his teacher with a small axe. The kid was stopped by his classmates and the teacher, and was eventually detained by the police. The original thread on the booru was deleted after the incident, but screenshots of it remain.
The news:
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2026/10/21/police-probe-alleged-axe-attack-on-teacher-by-16-year-old-boy-at-sarawak-international-school/240068The livestream video and more screenshots [every single comment here is pure AIDS, proceed at your own discretion]:
https://nitter.netbub.com/Bukelejakdaily/status/2112704566936351141 No.185280
>>185228Most of the sites that are still around are probably maintained since there is still an interest in flash games.
No.185282
>>185280My boy crazymonkeygames hasn't been updated since I think 2011 and it's still up
No.185284
>>185274>underage>malaysian>sharty usernever fails huh
No.185285
>>185274jfc can this type of internet culture die out already, i truly with all my heart loathe these sharty clowns
No.185286
>>185276I tried mathchan, I liked the idea but I was too much of a brainlet to contribute.
No.185288
>>185274I swear the entirety of the sharty is just a fed grooming psyop
No.185289
>>185286The sharty is a literally a massive grooming ground, and these last 3 years their ""culture"" has become more and more mainstream.
No.185291
>>185285I don't remember when exactly the rage comics went out of style, but it should end the same way, oversaturation that makes everyone realize it's lame.
No.185293
>>185291Soyjaks already went out of style years ago, the entirety of that site feels forced.
No.185294
>>185293It glows like plutonium.
No.185296
>>185276I wish I was smart to truly enjoy these niche boards.
No.185297
>>185293>Soyjaks already went out of style years agoI still see them and other wojaks pop up unironically, so they're not rage-faces-dead yet.
No.185299
>>185293>Soyjaks already went out of style years agoThey're literally everywhere
No.185301
>>185293>Soyjaks already went out of style years agoSo what's the hot new thing now?
No.185303
>>185282Someone's still paying for its hosting and the parent company that runs it is still around.
No.185305
>>185083Am I allowed to say this? I'm not sure if mentioning other sites is against the rules like it is on 4chan. I'm hoping 8moe gains some traffic (and that you guys do too). I got a bit of a Halloween event thing going on their /a/ so...
Kissu is very comfy I wish you all the best. And this post at the end of the day amounts to a shillpost so delete at your will.
No.185306
>>185299>>185301I haven't kept up but I see mostly gen alpha memes and chad, there are some wojaks but I almost never see the soyjaks (and the hundreds of edits) themselves in the wild unless I stumble upon a raid. They're mostly self contained to the sharty.
No.185308
>>185305Fuck off. IDs suck.
No.185310
>>185308Stop being such a rudefag.
No.185312
>>185155QRD on suigintou poster?
No.185313
>>185308>>185309literally who gives a fuck?
No.185315
>>185313I do, and you should too
No.185318
>>185313IDs change behaviour, no longer is it about having fun and genuine human expression, you become self conscious.
No.185319
>>185317not every 8moe board has id, /b/ doesn't, and there's /vb/ too amongt others.
No.185323
CRYING TENSHI THREADS GO GO GO
No.185339
>>185337Sorry I keep accidentally posting here because I have both threads open
No.185371
>>185215I used to post on /new/ and early /pol/ and I never saw anything of old 4chan's culture in 8.
And I'm not some guy with trolls remorse or something like that. I'm still a reactionary. It's just we used to have fun with it back in the day while 8 had post gamergate's serious business attitude which I personally don't feel like that was the culture.
I do agree with you 4chan's deathblow came in 2014 however. Right as moot was putting his ducks in a row for the sale.
No.185376
>>185151It needs to stay down for a few days for people to really start looking for alternatives.
No.185377
>>185371Was really fascinating to see people larp as oldfags on 8chan. No one seems to remember that they also shilled it relentlessly on 4chan and started acting like victims when moot did the obvious thing and filtered it.
No.185384
There's some kind of countdown on Hikari3. Any one know what's up with that?
No.185385
>>185384Admin said it was "something site-related" without further elaborating. That's what I got from lurking for a minute.
No.185387
>>185384its the final countdown
No.185396
>>185215>>185217>christBy the time that happened 8 was already dead. The time when 8chan was an actual community and a real threat to 4chan was 2013-2015. It's more likely they used the event to springboard and point more resources at 4chan.
>So the obvious question is why hasn't another altchan taken its place?The idea of creating an ideal imageboard is dead. That's the whole reason 8chan was even a thing in the first place. Everyone who wanted to improve things gave up or died over the years.
Furthermore the conditions are worse now. Sure there's fancy new software and tools but where will you get the users? Back then there was a sizeable population that was willing to break from 4chan and an average user who was much more sympathetic to alternatives. Where will you get the people when the only ones remaining are slaves to 4chan's corpse or unassimilable social media users?
>>185241It was a lot of people. It's posts like these that make me realize probably 99% of everyone back then is gone.
No.185402
Bibanon's been so touch and go. What the hell's happening..?
No.185450
>>185448Ofcom already lost the case against 4chan, what are they expecting?
No.185451
>>185450>what are they expecting?They believe that maybe they can trample on smaller sites? They're authoritarian pieces of kuso after all.
No.185452
>>185402From what I can recall when I last checked it months ago, it was hit by severe advertisement spam. It must not have had any restrictions on account creation so there were LLMs spouting garbage everywhere.
No.185454
>>185448What a weird site to go after. I would've expected them to go after the sharty, but mlpol?
No.185455
>>185454The sharty grooming school shooters is a low priority.
No.185456
>>185448talking about laws, i was wondering, when you're hosting an altchan, the laws that apply to the site come from where the server is located right?
No.185458
>>185448Is there a reason to care about what the UK wants? They're just a lone island after leaving the EU, imagine getting legal threats from every random African nation for breaking 100 different laws
No.185459
>>185456If you don't want the server shut down, you have to follow those laws. If you don't want to be arrested, you should also follow the laws of wherever you personally live.
No.185460
>>185456Someone having probable cause is always a pain in the ass. In most countries suspicion is enough to act on, then after they're investigating they can find whatever they want.
They do this with traffic stops to get into vehicles when they think there's something they don't like about the person
No.185461
>>185458That's what I've been saying since they started going after 4chan. Who cares? It's like if North Korea started sending me e-mail claiming I hurt their feelings or something.
No.185465
>>185448I was just wondering how they were doing yesterday.
No.185466
>>185458>>185461You're uninformed if you think it's only the UK trying to implement those type of laws. It could soon be the entire EU sending those warnings.
No.185467
>>185461For smaller boards, I assume their hosts would want to comply in order to not get fined/banned from the UK
No.185486
>>185452Yeah I saw that, but that's not what I'm referring to.
I'm struggling to access the website at all.
No.185501
>>185450They didn't lose, iirc the judge dismissed 4chan's case, but it doesn't matter eitherway for enforcement
No.185504
>>185467What if they self host or use VPS