No.151340
>>151335You mean best case.
No.151345
>>151339Now it seems like random threads got deleted. A bit of a dick move.
No.151348
>>151276>he reports exploits on an anonymous imageboard>he does it for freeSeriously, why would anyone report to get their name on this page nobody will ever look at when they could exploit it and throw the entire IB sphere into chaos earning them a spot in internet history?
No.151352
>>151154>Why do some chan users want nested replies?I like the system 4chan has, or maybe it's a feature of 4chan-x, I dunno. Where you can click on a reply and it will get nested within the post you're reading, and you can do this for replies to that reply and so on. On Kissu you can only view the replies to the post you're reading, and on some imageboards you can't even see the replies made to the posts at all.
No.151355
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/278109778Made this, it doesn't appear in the catalog yet. Or maybe never?
No.151358
All threads are disappearing..
No.151362
This is so fucked, I'm convinced the devs added multiple bugs and it's simply shitting itself hard.
No.151367
/g/ turned into /a/ somehow
and no it's not only the OP pics
No.151370
We finally getting the april fools we deserved!
No.151371
>>151367>/g/ turned into /a/Finally we fixed nu/g/!
No.151374
Anyone knows where the gochi thread went?
No.151376
>All boards except /a/ get deleted
Finally...
No.151377
>>151367The Penguindrum just flew over my house!
No.151378
I can't post but other people seem to be able to
No.151380
See you soon!
No.151383
See you soon!
No.151386
Well, guess I'll go bike a little.
No.151389
Are those able to post using p.4chan?
No.151392
this was an entertaining shitshow
No.151393
How can they be so incompetent?
Why would they not at least test if everything worked before going back online?
No.151394
what's a sandbox for if not to let tards play in it?
No.151395
>>151348Why not? Nothing malicious about it.
No.151397
>>151391Beautiful.
Now I wouldn't be mad if 4chan will truly be dead.
No.151399
>>151393why would they have put in any effort?
that's just how 4chan has been run for the last years
it was funnier this way too
No.151400
How can some people post?
No.151401
>>151393I think this was the test
No.151402
>>151398Also some threads were left locked.
What an amazing shitshow.
No.151413
>>151405Please don't be real.
No.151415
https://boards.4chan.org/lgbt/thread/39505747#p39505747First post on /lgbt/ since the haxxx
>reality was hard and im going through severe fagslop withdrawal after the outage, please supply me your fagslop No.151419
So from the limited time the website was back up, this was the list of changes I could see.
>New captcha, breaks associated userscripts people used for solving them easier.>Removed pdf uploads from /po/ and /gd/. Should be obvious since this was what was exploited as claimed and seems like this confirms it.>/qa/ which was brought back from its vegetative state during the hack has now been entirely nuked off the website and the associated vandalism on multiple boards has also been deleted.>/f/ is effectively static and dead, uploads of swf files are disabled>They added https://www.4chan.org/security for cybersecurity reporting. Better late than never but the rewards are frankly kinda shit so I doubt anyone would report unless they loved the website that much.Dunno if I missed anything but this is a pretty short list of changes and definitely not worth the 11 days we were down.
No.151420
>>151413how do I move threads?
I have a lot of stuff that I want out of /jp/ for... reasons.
No.151423
>>151419Didn't the bug bounty thing always exist? It was just never used. I recall there being people's names on it a few years back.
No.151425
>>151423It seems like it from the usernames reported so I was wrong about that item, scratch that. Guess it was entirely ineffective because of the shit rewards.
No.151427
>>151419>>151423Yes it's old. Almost nobody knew that it existed.
No.151428
THE SITE DIED JUST WHEN I WAS TELLING /cm/ ANONS TO USE KISSU'S /ec/ AND 8CHAN'S /cutemale/ AS BUNKERS FOR FUTURE DOWNTIMES
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
No.151429
>>151420Out of the 6 new threads that popped up on /jp/ just now, 2 of them were vtumor threads lol.
No.151432
Honestly I'm starting to realize I was never performing masculinity right, because my reaction to learning about p*rnstars when I was younger wasn't "ew they're run through"
It was, holy shit, these beautiful women are having a ton of sex, sex is cool right?
No.151435
Seeing anime next to all the frogs on /g/ is a bit of a culture shock desu
No.151437
>>151428Kissu provided you refuge and this is what you do in return?
No.151442
>>151419If Newgrounds can have working SWF files why can't 4chan?
No.151445
>>151442They just don't care.
No.151446
>>151250Some anons will choose to stay. I plan to.
No.151449
>>151435/a/ seems to be raising /g/ for their incompetence
No.151451
What are they doing on /test/?
No.151453
>>151451Unspeakable forms of ERP beyond human comprehension.
No.151455
>>151303fucking be yourself faggot
>>151428your post went through, don't worry
No.151458
Is it just me or is 4chan throwing "connection errors" based off of certain images or something? I can't post some images even when I throw them fresh out of editing software, but throw in anything else and it just shows up instantly.
No.151463
>>151458Some blocked images caused this.
No.151465
>>151463>some blockedmy images are literally who though
is it just a filter going haywire?
No.151467
>>151465It seems to be random. Maybe still fucked.
No.151483
>>151481Scary
Glad they're still at their game though.
No.151484
>>151481pretty obvious he experienced it through hearsay and not firsthand
No.151487
>>151250It's not the posts per minutes that count, but the quality.
There was nothing left for me there months ago when I exiled myself, and I don't expect it to be now.
No.151488
Anyone have some screencaps from /g/ turning into /a/? I forgot to make one and would like to remember this historic event
No.151489
>>151488Aw shit, I also forgot.
No.151490
Captcha is shitting itself again
No.151494
>>151490It's not captcha, it's sys.
>>151491This is one of the moved threads.
No.151496
>>1514914chan is not loading for me, can someone post that Akarin pic?
No.151497
When I sort threads by creation dates in the 4chan catalog, they're sorted by OP post number, not date. It looks like even old threads got new post numbers. Fascinating.
No.151500
>>151497Same things happens here when a thread is moved
No.151503
>>151497I bet they used AI
No.151507
>>151503I really hope so, it would be really funny if they needed 2 more weeks of downtime.
No.151511
>>151489>>151509Modern hero, I appreciate it!
No.151512
>>151509>Maki thread on /g/Not sure if /a/ or not..
No.151559
Various pinned threads were moved to the test board.
No.151571
>>151559How do you know this? /test/ is not public.
No.151572
There's a 2 minutes timer for every post, at least it's not 15 like it used to.
No.151574
>>151571nta but you can see on the archive
No.151576
>>151572>every postI'm posting without any issue
No.151580
>>151576An anon in a thread said that he had a 2 min timer too but it went up to 5.
No.151583
>>151580Might have something to do with cookies
No.151585
>>151572They probably reset all state, so instead of letting all anons wait 15 minutes, they reduced it to 2 minutes. Also there was a bug too where I had to wait multiple times if I clicked get captcha in other threads. Now I'm posting without waiting, but I almost never had to wait 15 minutes on old 4chan either.
No.151592
>>151580They're probably still adjusting the timers.
It was 2 minutes per post when it first went up, but I think it's back to 60 seconds now.
No.151599
>>1515922 minute post timer is gone for me now.
No.151610
>>151276lmao, they aren't even offering money for vuln reports, hilarious shit, they deserve to get hacked every chance they get.
No.151613
>>151610How else is Hiro supposed to pay for his frog legs?
No.151618
>>151276FOR A WHOPPING 20 DOLLARY DOOS OF VALUE!
No.151619
>>151613He could just put out.
No.151640
>>151635I bet nobody in the IRC had the guts to call them fags who don't have any passion upon hearing that.
No.151649
>>151647Newfags, spammers, and botters probably haven't noticed yet
No.151650
>>151647I actually wouldn't be surprised if a large majority of them did migrate back to twitter and reddit.
No.151658
>>151653Surprises no longer happen.
Everything is exactly as planned.
It's just that sensible people aren't invited into the room where the plans are made.
No.151659
>>151658I'd like the maggots who went to reddit to stay in reddit and Twitter.
No.151664
>>151660>cut activity cut by 50% or moreDo you really think it'd be that high a percentage? I think most people will still use it since it fills a niche very few other places online do, even if the execution of filling said niche is dogshit. The amount of people that care enough to use altchans now that it's back probably number less than 0.5% of 4chan's overall userbase.
No.151666
>>151660That list doesn't show many bans. I've been banned dozens of times for various rules and it has never showed up there. It specifically says it's not a comprehensive list as well.
No.151667
>>151660>/trash/>lolikonNever change fagmods.
No.151670
>>151668Some of the users may not have even registered that they were down given how little activity those boards can get.
No.151672
>>151668>like /po/ or /3/ or /diy/Ah, yeah, I agree then. Plenty of other places that are more active to discuss those. I doubt most of the active posters on those boards cared a great deal about the perceived benefits imageboards bring.
No.151677
>>151660I'm glad the site is back, but I will never stop hating the 4chan mods.
No.151678
The sticky is still locked. Nobody seems to care.
No.151681
>>151678No one who matter does.
The ones who care don't have enough established credentials to say "this site is dying, where should we move?", which is all the evidence we needed that evidence wasn't needed to prove that the truth needn't proving.
All I'm saying is, "It's over".
No.151686
>>151668I hope at least the people on /diy/mcg/ come back, forums have their own toxicity that comes with accounts and the AVR forum especially can be quite rude. None of the alt boards had an alternative to it either.
No.151691
>>151311One of the mods thinks it's a "template thread" and deletes them on site, he probably thought this was the only possible way to stop lots of them.
Meanwhile generals rules the board with impunity.
No.151693
>>151691Is a general not a template thread?
No.151704
>>151419They should just open source it. moot's ancient argument about not wanting to expose his spaghetti code to the world is moot, we've all seen 4chan hang dong.
No.151715
>>151704They can't expose all their schizo heuristics and captcha bullshit.
No.151726
>>151668the regular users probably go through days of zero posts anyways. It's the midsized boards, even /jp/ which could see actual competition.
No.151727
>>151724>"As many have suspected, until that time 4chan had been running on a set of servers purchased second-hand by moot a few weeks before his final Q&A, as prior to then we simply were not in a financial position to consider such a large purchase."As far as excuses go, it's as close to believable as we're likely to get outside of them coming out and confirming they're also lazy bastards. Still funny to think Hiro had not lifted a finger since taking over and was using what moot left behind for him.
No.151729
>>151727Nah this was the statement for me.
>The free time that 4chan’s development team had available to dedicate to 4chan was insufficient to update our software and infrastructure fast enough, and our luck ran out.>free timeNot all of you were paid but we know the guy that was important enough to oversee it was. If you couldn't even communicate to us you needed to update shit and downtime was inevitable, you deserved this. Also
>Money is always tight for us, and few companies were willing to sell us servers, so actually buying the hardware wasn’t a trivial problem.What the actual fuck? You can go on Ebay and get them second hand like moot did. I swear, the incompetence.
No.151732
>>151724>PDF exploitDid they get this from the attacker, or did they actually confirm this?
No.151734
>>151732They confirmed it but the attacker revealed it and the idea wasn't even new, some details about this was first posted on a /g/ thread over 8 years ago looking at the first leak of code.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/58851338/#58856080The only reason 4chan didn't go down sooner at the time was because the guy was just being tech focused and fooling around and wasn't actually malicious. It was just a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.
No.151749
>>1517154chan's long standing policy of opacity attracts and creates schizo posters.
No.151777
>>151772The donation begging is extra funny when they put zero effort into protecting pass users data.
Also the implication that you it costs them anything but a bit of time to update the distro.
No.151786
>>151772Definitely, the wording "pressured by activists" gives it up, it is someone in the gamergate-successor circles.
No.151788
>>151772They're just trying to earn cheap points by lumping themselves in with DLsite and the like. Too bad all the people who would jump at the mention of (((activists))) already hates the mod team for siding with them and their agenda constantly over the years.
No.151789
>>151724They should halve the salary of the entire moderation team involved in this incident.
No.151792
>>151789How do you halve zero dollars? Eat half of their hot pockets?
No.151809
>>151772Shouldn't assume, the team loves to add 40 mods and then tell you nothing about them or their policies and then laugh at users for blaming one or two known quantities.
No.151811
If you want to save money for developer man hours, fire Rapeape.
No.151824
>>151724>its a tumblr blogThis is just surreal in so many ways
No.151825
>>151734>the PHP code directly calls C binaries for PDF and JPG metadata parsing>JPG metadata parsing>Now I'm making a small tool to easily embed the exploit in pictures w/ configurable memory/CPU useHmm. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Let's see them disable jpg uploads.
No.151833
>>150960>It's a bizarre image because it copied stuff from other boards to fill it out to make it not 100% wojaks.I'll let you in on a secret: Not every poster on late /qa/ was a shartfag. /qa/ was basically /b/ 4.0 in it's final years. Half the non-jak refs there were ritual/daily /qa/ threads.
jakkids resurrected /qa/ but did not own it. But pretend they did and managed to get it frozen and killed like Kain drowned Raziel and then his entire clan
No.151834
>>151013trash has been growing non stop since the turn of the decade. actually the only off-topic board that did not shrivel up and practically die
For some reason a bunch of large discords got really attached to it. Likely because they cant discuss they shit anywhere else.
No.151847
>>151834chatroom board for the chatroom age
No.151848
>>151847>chatroom board for the chatroom ageSir? You AIM messenger has been pinging, you haven't read your last messages. it says september 2001 and something about towers
No.151896
>>151847*buzzes/pokes you*
No.151999
>>151724money being so tight explains why they allow schizos that haunt generals for years and turn the general into the schizo show (probably to raise engagement)
No.152000
>>1519994chan doesn't get paid by the post and people don't link schizos having mental episodes to their friends either. They allow that because banning someone from a website without robust account verification is impossible.
No.152003
>>152000It actually isn't. All it takes is dedication and good enough pattern recognition. A NEET with enough pattern recognition skills can detect schizos and ban evaders miles away.
No.152004
>>151999It's ironic that you complain about it while using a word that was forced by the same types of people you're complaining about. Far too many 'memes' that are nothing more than mass spammed bot posts from 2015-2020 era.
No.152005
>>152000doesn't higher engagement lead to higher possible advertiser yield
No.152006
>>152004>It's ironic that you complain about it while using a word that was forced by the same types of people you're complaining about.Its the word shit combined with twitter its not exactly original. I'm personally a fan of slop as a suffix as well
No.152008
>>152006wait I confused with a different thread when I saw my notif oops. Yeah I'm also a fan of the word schizo its fun and whimsical
No.152009
>>152003It doesn't really matter if you can spot them and keep banning them, they can still evade it. The schizos outrank you in their dedication. A new phone IP takes less than a minute to get and cookies do nothing and while rangebans are just slightly more of a nuisance to get around, if you start using those liberally (which 4chan used to do a couple years ago) people are going to get mad about it and telling them to buy a pass to get around it isn't going to help.
>>152005They're not going to be paying 4chan out based on how many posts they get, it's going to be based on ad impressions.
No.152010
>>152000I'll give you a hint: They ban the actual effort posters to make it appear the 'schizos' are the actual users. They aren't making money on advertising either. I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand what's been going on with 4chan since about 2009. But I suppose many are too young to remember what actual users and boards are like.
>>152006>Its the word shit combined with twitter"schizo" is 100% a forced meme along with many others. In fact, you can probably pin-point the exact date they unleashed it through the bot spam networks if you bother to look in the archives. It's just one of many. Its only purpose is to shut down discussion of actual topics, divide people and discourage people that put in effort for continuing to participate.
There is a good reason why boards like /g/ went from people that actually knew about technology to
>lol tech workers general!>systemd isn't spyware you schizo!>blah blah blah I don't even know HTML but I'm a front-end developer>guys let's all talk about today's ragebait here is a twitter screencapetc.
No.152012
>>152010>I'll give you a hint: They ban the actual effort posters to make it appear the 'schizos' are the actual users.It literally doesn't matter who they ban. Bans might as well not exist on 4chan considering how easy they are to avoid. They're a complete non-entity.
No.152013
>>152012The vast majority of people can't get a dynamic IP anymore and don't know how to avoid cookies. The 900 second timer makes it annoying to by-pass them anyway. tor nodes are range banned. Common VPNs are range banned. Real users are fingerprinted via their browser. The website has malicious javascript running in your browser at all times. Mods and admins follow around certain users (the ones that put in effort) and do everything they can to silence them. Even the archives are purged of certain posts. Oh and don't forget the board freezing.
Despite all of that the so-called 'schizos' have free reign for years and years and years. The same topics posted on repeat everyday with no original posts in them. Known bots are allowed to run free. It's obvious what's going on.
But just try and make a post about it and watch a bunch of people like you come out of the woodwork to contribute nothing of value and call them names. You can't mention things like the military run pods with armies of bot farms behind them and endless IP addresses. Even though anyone that pays attention has known about these things since the 2010s (and before).
Or how about posting a thread with proof of such things only to watch every other thread on the board get bumped and filled with new bot posts. Despite it being 3am and the mods being 'asleep' along with most of the 'shitposters'.
It's a honeypot and you're not only participating in it and feeding it. You've actually fallen for the lies it propagates.
No.152015
>>152013This is the ramblings of a complete lunatic who's afraid that the 4chan janitors are gangstalking him
No.152016
>>152010Are you implying the 4chan admins have given up and are now just nihilistically torturing people for some sort of benefit
>>152013>But just try and make a post about it and watch a bunch of people like you come out of the woodwork to contribute nothing of value and call them names. You can't mention things like the military run pods with armies of bot farms behind them and endless IP addresses. Even though anyone that pays attention has known about these things since the 2010s (and before).oh are you saying its some sort of social engineering experiment or propaganda
No.152020
>>152018This must be why there are posters that annoy me on /vg/
No.152021
>>152019
You see that pdf file in the post above yours? Read it. Then read it again. Fun fact: It clearly explains why shit like pepe the frog and wojaks became so popular instead of remixes of popular content. Since they are not allowed to break copyright laws while they're shitting the place up.
No.152022
If you guys seriously want to get political then take it to
>>>/secret/, don't need talk about US Government officials on /all/...
No.152024
>>151623Unsung heroes much like Janitors ?
No.152025
>>151653Most of those were robots just to be clear.
No.152027
>>151668Theyll return. Part of the crew part of the ship.
No.152029
>>152021The document is vague, but I think those are guidelines for public relations of the military. Not a guideline for online covert ops.
No.152034
>>151824Tumblr at its current state is somewhat neat I guess.
No.152037
Schizophrenia isn't a happening
No.152038
>>151834Elsewhere? You got reddit for the seggs tumblr and blue burd for the toxic fandom culture (/co/ and /a/ adjacent wise).
No.152039
>>151772I don't doubt that they've been fucked about by payment processors and coward advertisers but I have no idea why they're using that as a deflection for why they failed to update their server software and code
Paying people to update their software should not be a huge drain on money, it should be normal
Hell even paying security experts/hackers for hire to find vulnerabilities should be normal and something a site of it's size should do every once in a while
I can't help but read it as them gearing up for another begging session for hiro and trying to make it seem like the mods were blameless (when everyone knows that simply isn't the case)
No.152040
>>152004Just because it got shit on it does not mean its not useful shit to describe that shit e.g. enshittification
No.152041
>>152038>You got reddit for the seggs tumblrI use bdsmlr its pretty good
No.152044
>>152010Desu is a force maymay if you think about itm
No.152045
>>152022If you seriously can't handle a link to a pdf file and explanation for where the bot farms are coming from perhaps you should keep your opinion to yourself. It isn't "political" to link to a document that proves the point I was trying to make. How do you expect anyone to talk about "what happened to the board quality" when you can't even mention the Government? Are we supposed to pretend it isn't happening? Would you have preferred if I mentioned any of the hundred of private organizations that employee people for this purpose? Which *surprise* have the Government as their main client?
Again; you've been trained to have this knee jerk reaction. The same people that ruined discussion on the internet trained you not to point out that they're ruining the internet. It's almost like the psychological operation operation was a massive success! Why are you even mentioning the sekrit board in the most active thread on this entire website in the first place?
>>152029Read it again. It clearly explains what the program is about. It's vague on purpose. Since the day-to-day operations of what's happening are classified. It is just one of many operations happening all over the world. I am not kidding when I tell you there are buildings staffed 24/7 with people that have no other job to monitor discussion and send in bots to shit the discussion up. Even on websites that aren't honeypots they run directly (which 4chan is).
The document I linked even explains why every popular youtuber has a "PR guy" and why they all parrot the same content and release it at the same time. I am trying to prove to you just how much things are controlled and why the internet suddenly changed in the mid-2000s. Please note the date of that document. Read it three times if you need to before it sinks in.
This used to be well known information. We used to talk about it all of the time. We used to name multiple groups that were known to be doing it (and fight back against it). But at some point around the early-mid 2010s they shut down discussion about it. Which again was my point: You can't even have a damn discussion about it without a bunch of people calling you a loon now and the moderator having a knee jerk reaction. Like I'm suddenly going to start going off on tangents like the bots posting on 4/pol/ and making jokes about muh Hitler and Da J00s. Which again is the point of all of this: Instead of reading the contents of my posts and having a friendly discussion people are trained now to tune out and blame all the problems on the few people that actually want to get to the heart of the issue. Instead of having a frank discussion about actual problems you want 500+ more posts about "the jannys!" and "the schizos!" and the same BS we've all read 100 times since yesterday. At some point it became impossible to have open and friendly dialog. Just because we might not agree doesn't mean I'm trying to convert you to some cause or 'shit the place up'.
The knee jerking moderators that are young and don't remember the before times are by far the worse effect of all of this. They think they're doing the place a service by shutting down so-called 'political discussion'. But then they'll turn right around and rant about their own 'politics'. Then when challenged they start issuing bans for 'politics'.
Which is exactly the same thing the 4chan mods have been doing to certain people for years. Tons of threads on a board like /g/ or /a/ where entire groups of people are slandered. But if one person from those groups throws a shot back or even makes a joke they're suddenly 'racists' or 'off-topic' or any of the other catch-all rules that are only ever used to used down discussion. There is a clear agenda and it's mainly being used to DIVIDE PEOPLE.
Seriously, if you can't see that 75%+ of 'discussion' happening on large websites like 4chan and social media are bot farms I don't know what anyone can do to convince you of the truth. They claim they make money on advertising and driving engagement. But they're FAKING the engagement. They don't want real people posting at all these days. They just want you endlessly scrolling and maybe clicking the like button.
If you don't believe me here is a simple test for you. Take that pdf file and post it on the 'political' board or /g/ where it's certainly 100% on-topic. See how long it takes for you to get a 3-day vacation. It won't take long. There are many many bits of information like the pdf file (and the name of the program listed in it) that are not 'on-topic' anywhere on the entire internet. Furthermore, no matter where you post them someone is always instantly alerted that they've been posted and the flood of bots soon follow. Since they've got a google alerts type system running that greps through the entire web looking for keywords, files, and people's names.
Of course. If one were to explain this and lay it out in a way that is easy to understand he's always banned, shouted over, told to take it elsewhere or flooded out. Along with being called all sorts of mean names. Even though it's all easy to prove. A few have even gotten bullets to the head for attempting to expose it just in the last few years.
No.152047
>>152039>I can't help but read it as them gearing up for another begging session for hiroThey better reserve the begging for venture capitalists because 4chan users have neither the will or the capability to fund the site at this point. Hiro needs to somehow convince Goodsmile to pump in another couple million into his pet project and frankly I don't know how he did it the first time.
No.152049
Can we get a check to see if this post was written by an AI
No.152050
>>152045I was more talking about the shitposting with names of politicians. Also I’m pretty fair in my moderation of what is and isn’t politics, consider that I didn’t moderate you just the person who brought up politicians.
No.152053
But also /secret/ is more an open /secret/ as a place where people can talk without disturbing the peace on /all/. It’s an opt-in board rather than in your face.
No.152211
>>152010> They ban the actual effort postersThey do, just like they banned all the culture posters. But what you're seeing happening is a selection effect where
>>152009 says
>The schizos outrank you in their dedicationSo the culture posters eventually throw in the towel after the mods abuses. The funposters eventually throw in the towel. The effort posters throw in the towel. All who's left, who's been selected for by team4chan themselves, are the absolutely maniacally dedicated schizo posters.
The mods have done this to themselves. It's like wiping out a patients bowels of any good bacteria and wondering why they're suddenly infected with salmonella. You wiped out the niche and the schizos flooded in, you created the cultureless wasteland ripe for colonization.
The whole problem with this is the mods don't really feel the sting for how bad they've made 4chan. That's what the disposable labor of the janitors is for. They suffer attrition, the mods sit back and make pronouncements and handle ban requests.
No.152215
>>152045>>152010>>152013>>>/maho/3220Love this LARP
When's the SciADV fan game coming out?
No.152220
>>152044I thought Desu came from Rozen Maiden
No.152221
>>152220Desu has been a meme in Japan for over 1000 years.
No.152225
>>152044Memes used to forced by a few dedicated posters, powered only by the sheer sacred power of their neetdom.
Now memes are decided by the what the algo thinks will get ad views.
How far we have fallen.....Very sad
No.152242
>>152221Memes used to forced by a few dedicated Nipponese courtiers, powered only by the sheer sacred power of their cultural refinement.
Now memes are decided by the what the corporations think will get 海外企業 investment. Cue modern linguistic crimes against humanity (e.g wasei eigo)
How far we have fallen.....残念
No.152249
>>152235I'm pretty sure this is a spike from everybody coming back and talking about the downtime, so it could be misrepresenting things. Or it could be people stopped checking every day and it'll grow in the next few days as people check back in.
Either way, the most important thing is that a few altchans retain more users so 4chan doesn't look so much like the only option.
No.152250
>>152225Algos are still rudimentary though.
No.152251
>>152249Give it six months and theyll be obscure again.
No.152252
>>152242the intermix of languages is inevitable
accept your fate or perish
No.152254
>>152249I think it's important to remember that 4chan too was small and slow. If speed is the primary factor, you probably aren't much of an imageboard user. The comment to the youtube video.
No.152255
>>152225>>152242If we combine our posts we get the whole truth.
The best memes were either japanese or strongly japanophilic (see early 4chan), hence it's the dedication japanese neets, armed with their cultural refinement, that made them possible
The chase for 海外企業 investment is predicated upon pleasing the algos, and the dominance of western internet/tech platforms (and their algorithms) in general intensifies the aberration of wasei e*go (
>>146204 )
No.152259
>>152250I would say they are rudimentary in that they are in essence misaligned dumb AI systems to the effect of a paperclip maximizer, and don't really understand what they are doing.
However, they are
very much effective at their reward function...Which of course isn't to give you things you want to see, but to maximize ad views/engagement.
Example: why are you recommended political garbage even though you never clicked on it? Because they have long realized the small percentage that do become very good, maybe the best, engagement metric/ad view cattle. (this is what humans call "pipelines") It's worth trying out showing you that stuff repeatedly even if there's only 0.1% chance you'll click on it, because eventually something might trigger you enough to click. You can generalize this to everything else...
why is the music they give you generic? Because in fact they don't care about tailoring your specific taste actually, despite the "personalization algorithm" moniker, what they care about is ads. So they give you something that is a "safe bet" and you won't click away from, rather than more personalized recommendations. Because all they are doing is hacking the engagement metric.
The two examples I gave are NOT contradictory by the way - they calculate where to take risks (example: political brain damage makes you life long ad cattle), where to not take risks (example: music, most people just wanna put something on. You have to put something they actively shut off, not something they will truly enjoy), in a nightmarish cold sterile walled garden.
No.152260
>>152259Correction:
>You have to put something they won't actively shut off No.152310
>>152259What is to be truly enjoy in the context of media. Who are you to state what is the enjoyment of some?
No.152328
>>152327Right here. It'll always be right here.
No.152330
>>152328Also I'm betting the mods probably are killing it as one of the last vestiges of /qa/ culture on the site.
No.152331
Is a state really worth fighting for if it has to break you as a human being to make you a soldier?
No.152333
>>152327/bant/ is the de facto thread
>>152330actually they use those threads for their activities
No.152371
>>152310You misunderstand, the word 「truly」was meant as an intensifier. 「truly enjoy」here means something that is very tailored to (Your) tastes specifically. I was not implying fake enjoyment, whatever that would mean.
The algos only goal is maximizing ad views, all they care about is you not clicking off - for it, an ok piece of media or a life-changing piece of media are valued roughly the same. Maximizing ad viewing is the only thing that matters, a clear misalignment problem for the user.
No.152373
>>152310Don't use the
>who are you to...line of argument by the way, it's a very annoying thought terminating cliche
No.152384
>>152373Junior, you dare? Who are you to tell your senior what he can and cannot say? He is of the eight stage Heavenly Body Reinforcement and you are but a third stage Telestial Body Initiate. Even if you kowtow ten thousand times it will not be enough to erase the stain of presumptiveness.
No.152417
>>152330>Also I'm betting the mods probably are killing it as one of the last vestiges of /qa/ culture on the site.We have... protection.
No.152430
>>151734its hard to believe it remained unexploited so long. theres literally automated bots out there attempting easy stuff like this and theres plenty of people upset enough to do it too
No.152435
File:11.png (653.61 KB,1005x1059)
I never understood why the metaposters or the frogjakschizos or all the other rabble laid claim to /qa] when they never had anything to begin with.
The only ones to develop a distinct identity and culture were the 2D/Random posters made up of various boards on the site like /jp/, [s4s], /a/, /g/, and more.
The rest was useless meta discussion on a board the mods never read, truthfully not even metaphorically. Even 8chan /operate/ was better at getting your ideas read by and that was an abyss of wasted energy.
That or it was /r9k/ or /soc/ blogposts or crap.
Take for example the soyteens.
Whereas /qa] was focused on the board and community they dedicated themselves to attacking a supposed bogeyman that was ruining the board.
Ironically while some may claim they were influenced by /int*/ I think they had much more in common with hotwheels and 8chan and their paranoia and obsession. On the other hand /qa] was willing to regularly wipe the board with spam and managed to maintain cohesion despite everything.
Ultimately I feel that the conflict was the modern 4chan culture attempting to attack the sudden appearance of an existential threat. Ideas and zeigeists at some point take a life of their own and people are turned into unwitting carriers and propagators instead of generators.
If the /qa] was allowed to live in peace as the board at the center crossroads its influence and ethos could spread across the site potentially leading to users on other boards banding together and taking matters into their own hands. Which would lead to a revolution or an exodus 2.0 and things would never be the same.
Or something along the lines of that. It was too much trouble from too many for too small a board for too long.
No.152436
>>152009i bet plenty of people are addicted enough to buy the pass if asked to
No.152438
>>152014but does the site owner care? they get activity and ad impressions either way and if the average user is a retard they wont even notice that good posters are missing
No.152439
>>152436Not sure about it. There's a massive "You will own all the games and pay nothing" crowd there, if that says anything.
No.152444
>>152439i hope so but im not so sure. on /g/ its not uncommon to see those piracy and even ad blocking is stealing threads and buy a pass is a common meme many times even posted with the badge
No.152445
>>152444Most of those sound like contrarians or trolls, but that's how I perceive it rather than whatever the truth is.
I paid 10$ for a Something Awful account a long long time ago just to post and read without restrictions, but at least there was some good content there to justify it despite Lowtax being a PoS. And he was despised on a level maybe bigger than rapeape. 4chan has been lacking quality content for sometime, so if hiro put there one of the old Something awful banners that read "Give us all your money", 99% people would leave.
Just my opinion, anyways.
No.152447
>>152445Forgot to mention, the "10$ to post, 10 more to unban yourself" thing only worked when there were no alternatives to SA. In the moment social media and reddit happened, they began bleeding money. I think something similar would happen if 4chan was suddenly paywalled
No.152448
SomethingAwful has diehard fans that will contribute to keeping the site up especially now that it's run by a guy who goons find a lot more likable than lowtax.
No.152453
>>152447perhaps it would work with an more affordable amount. you know like all those microtransactions that are so trendy nowdays. $0.99 so you can call that annoying asshole a nigger? many might bite.
No.152463
>>152444those are all bots and shills and trolls
or so you would think
the first most do with any computer knowledge is immediately piracy unless they follow digital laws for some reason
limewire showed as much
No.152486
>>152484
>More significant, 4chan has simply been affected by the passage of time, consistently losing users to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022.
I wonder if the imageboard format will simply be something only people of a certain generation will burn a candle for in the future. I've spoken to people only a few years younger than me before about the value of anonymity on the internet, for example, and they look at me as if I'm speaking a foreign language.
No.152487
>>152484
That's really thorough work! Good job!
Disappointing news, but I guess it's to be expected. 4chan's massive numbers mean even a small decrease can mean a proportionately huge gain elsewhere, though, so I still think it's a beneficial thing that will be felt across various sites.
No.152488
>>152486The anonymity is one thing, but just the rather simple layout itself is what I like about it. And everyone is more or less put on the same level, even outside of the anonymity aspect, where each thread is a just a single string of posts. I actually don't mind discord, and that's still better than the bigger social media sites like Facebook for any kind of discussion. At least in the way I use it, which is probably ignoring a lot of its features. Twitter has useful functions as well but there's no way in hell I'd used it for any kind of serious discussion and it's crazy to me that it and Facebook have become the center of discussion in politics/on the news about how people interact on them.
And yeah, seeing how younger people use the internet is bizarre.
No.152489
>>152484
>More significant, 4chan has simply been affected by the passage of time, consistently losing users to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022.
Hmmm it’s almost like if the hostile and incompetent administration was running the site into the ground by attriting the userbase with their malicious actions...
No.152493
Imageboards are reclining.
No.152494
>>152484
Thank you for putting this together, it's very interesting to see hard data visualized like this. We're not yet at the point of death meditation.
No.152500
>>152486>>152487>>152489>>152494Ano... eto... My fellow qaeers, I may have screwed the pooch. I used 4stats as a source and I didn't realize that their day count is off by one. So...
My conclusions were wrong!! orzHere's the ACTUAL data.
Headline number:
post-hack 4chan has decreased by 153K PPD.In terms of raw PPD change, the boards affected most are:
/vg/: -29741 PPD | -25% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 90695
/pol/: -24741 PPD | -30% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 58797
/vt/: -22428 PPD | -32% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 48331
/v/: -16765 PPD | -21% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 63250
/a/: -7332 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 30871
/int/: -6752 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 28884
/mu/: -6664 PPD | -46% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 7914
/tv/: -5309 PPD | -19% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 21925
/biz/: -4124 PPD | -58% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 2928
/bant/: -3828 PPD | -45% Pre-hack Activity | Current PPD: 4767
In terms of activity level change, the boards affected most are:
/w/: -82% Pre-hack Activity | -90 PPD | Current PPD: 20
/biz/: -58% Pre-hack Activity | -4124 PPD | Current PPD: 2928
/news/: -48% Pre-hack Activity | -159 PPD | Current PPD: 169
/mu/: -46% Pre-hack Activity | -6664 PPD | Current PPD: 7914
/bant/: -45% Pre-hack Activity | -3828 PPD | Current PPD: 4767
/x/: -44% Pre-hack Activity | -3009 PPD | Current PPD: 3814
/cm/: -43% Pre-hack Activity | -90 PPD | Current PPD: 119
/vmg/: -38% Pre-hack Activity | -262 PPD | Current PPD: 430
/n/: -37% Pre-hack Activity | -33 PPD | Current PPD: 56
/an/: -32% Pre-hack Activity | -182 PPD | Current PPD: 379
The top 25 boards by retention rates are:
/vip/: +430% Post-hack Activity
/po/: +383% Post-hack Activity
/wg/: +175% Post-hack Activity
/xs/: +55% Post-hack Activity
/wsr/: +35% Post-hack Activity
/y/: +27% Post-hack Activity
/u/: +27% Post-hack Activity
/c/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/3/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/cgl/: +25% Post-hack Activity
/out/: +24% Post-hack Activity
/gd/: +20% Post-hack Activity
/s/: +17% Post-hack Activity
/trv/: +16% Post-hack Activity
/m/: +15% Post-hack Activity
/gif/: +8% Post-hack Activity
/aco/: +6% Post-hack Activity
/hr/: +5% Post-hack Activity
/i/: +5% Post-hack Activity
/wsg/: +4% Post-hack Activity
/mlp/: 0% (No change)
/hm/: 0% (No change)
/toy/: 0% (No change)
/g/: -1% Post-hack Activity
/soc/: -4% Post-hack Activity
Takeaways:
The 4chan hack had a SIGNIFICANT affect on the overall state of 4chan. 4chan has been consistently losing users each year since 2022 to the tune of total sitewide PPD decreasing by ~100K each year since 2022. Post-hack 4chan has decreased by 153K PPD, down to 561878 PPD, which if long-term trends of user loss continue, would have naturally occurred by approximately 2030.
Spreadsheet for anyone who wants to look at the data themselves:
https://files.catbox.moe/9pajru.ods No.152503
Well the good news is that the site's going to be cheaper to operate now and they can put those extra funds into hiring a real developer
No.152504
>>152503Hiro needs his new ferrari please understand.
No.152514
>>152500nice. much like predicted days of downtime is a disaster for todays social media platforms
No.152515
also wow the paywalled board has highest activity??
No.152519
>>151618>>151276I only just realized this but passes are actually $30 dollarydoos now right? This is just yet another thing that is neglected and out of date.
No.152522
>>152486>>152488I personally feel like as if imageboards, as a format, already died in the early 2010s at the latest. I think younger people nowadays don't really care about the format on its own, but rather about the "culture" of infamous adopters like 4chan, which has to be most people's first experience with an imageboard in the first place. If someone first goes there now, because they're intrigued by 4chan's premise, I assume they must already feel perfectly content with constant shitflinging and drama, meaning there would be no reason to even think about looking for any alternatives. That is unless their favorite board gets nuked either directly or indirectly and they want to regroup elsewhere.
In short: I think the influx of people who are entirely new to imageboards would immediately stop if 4chan were to die and the only people still hanging around on altchans will be former 4channers.
No.152523
>>152503Surely they will make changes to better prepare for the future and it will no be down again in less than a year without any sort of staff response
No.152530
>>152373Who are you to state such madness you feeble anonymous!
No.152531
altchans ??
No.152532
>>152430Do not underestimate the sheer laziness of your fellow 4kanker
No.152533
>>152439>massivethose are loud minorities
No.152535
If I got extra money I will pay for Reddit Premium
If I got extra money I will pay for 4chan pass
if I got extra money I will not pay for Kissu-VIP (no special lounge no special tag)
No.152541
>>152486Anonymity is a myth if your enemy is the state itself.
>>152522Wanna know why the alternative tend to always suck? Its because they act as a piss poor mockery rather than to be unique of its own. It answers why non eng IBs thrive without the 'chanesque' crap or whatever bs you call that.
No.152542
>>152514Yet it will still persist until bankruptcy.
No.152543
>>152538
I assume you're all bad at reading because you don't read so you don't enjoy it because it's too slow for you. I can read tenfolds faster than any video can give me any sort of information. If I want to watch a video I will watch a movie or a show, not some guy talking about something I could read in two seconds.
No.152563
>>152500>/pol/ down 30%>/po/ up 383%They won.
Also losing a quarter of /vg/ probably hurts, those are the posters with the least incentive to go back once they've successfully migrated and they made up a huge chunk of the total.
No.152570
You should probably look at the numbers a month, half a year, or a year from now. You've got like three days worth of data points here. Altchans have a 20 year long habit of dying down.
No.152584
>>152577
I can listen to music just fine without videos telling me what to listen to, I can even do other things at the same time..? I did say if I would watch a video I would rather watch a movie or a show, not some 5x sped up video of a guy masturbating with a severed off fishhead for a five seconds laugh.
No.152585
>>152500I think it's funny that when you look at places like Twitter through Xcancel there are people who still think 4chan is shut down forever. Some people are just incapable of keeping up.
No.152587
>>152585There are still people asking "wasn't silk road shut down?" every single time there's news about darknet drugs. It's been like 15+ years, and it wasn't even the first or the last of its kind.
No.152588
>>152573Seems like it's related to the massive happening at the Iberian Peninsula where the power has gone out nation-wide in both Spain and Portugal.
No.152589
>>152500what day is this based on
No.152591
>>1525892019: April ~28th
2020: April ~28th
2025 (Pre-Hack): April 12, 2025
2025 (Post-Hack): April 26, 2025
No.152594
>>152503I suspect it took the dev half a day to get 4chan back. The other 10 days he was doing nothing out of protect. Hiro's uncaring greed won.
No.152595
>>152588It's been a mess. Power is still unstable, so I can't boot the PC. My final message hours ago pretty much got lost when the power failed before I could hit "submit".
Even the two-way radio has been useless once the repeater ran out of juice.
No.152600
>>152500Thanks for this. Even though I agree with
>>152570 it's still interesting to see the immediate consequences. April 2026 data's going to be depressing from the looks of it.
No.152625
>>152624Hacker known as 4CHAN gets his revenge after all...
No.152626
>>152625Actually it was the hacker known as soy jack
No.152627
>>152624Uboachan is also down (owned by the same person)
No.152628
>>152626Aided by all the energy gained through his all-soy diet.
No.152629
Does vichan have any unknown vulnerabilities we should worry about? Most IBs use vichan
No.152633
>>152629no the sushi admin just had the default admin account with the password "password"
No.152634
>>152633well that's facepalmworthy
No.152635
they put on the footer 2024 vichan-dev while we have 2018. But I take it there's some reliable source that they didn't change the admin pass?
No.152636
>>152635it's the sharty
i don't want to link it but if you go on there you can find it easy
No.152637
>>152636not 100% reliable unless both parties confirm, but I guess it's probably possible
No.152641
>>152635seems like that's the case
sushichan has been around for more than 10 years hasn't it? i'd be shocked if they left the owner account with the default credentials for this long
No.152643
>>152641in the sushi discord
seems like it was a mistake after a database migration
however whoever pulled off this "raid" was an idiot and dumped nothing besides the public discord chatlog
No.152649
>>152541>Wanna know why the alternative tend to always suck? Its because they act as a piss poor mockery rather than to be unique of its own. It answers why non eng IBs thrive without the 'chanesque' crap or whatever bs you call that.Same reason why every /pol/ board is doomed to become yet aNOTher 4/pol/ knockoff.
Or why legacy boards in general tend to repeat the mistakes of the 4chan boards.
No.152652
>>152651it's kinda wild that wapchan has emerged as a relatively strong site when they had no community transplants in the early days and grew very slowly for years
No.152653
>>152620At least I get to catch up with this thread while waiting for public transport.
The sharty at it again? I hope people will finally learn to harden security after this.
No.152657
>>152626Saw someone on /m/ share a screencap collection that points out they literally run a bunch of scripts that "aggressively" fingerprint the shit out of you even if you're lurking
So if they're taking down altchans this is concerning but predictable. They want to corner the imageboard market to do data harvesting
No.152661
>>152657Seesh. Guess from now on I will have to use Librewolf for everything but Kissu. And if it was still possible, I would disable the JavaScript checkbox (impossible to do with 4chan ever since they put cloudflare on the gates)
No.152663
>>152657I think it's mostly just about curbing spam, and how the team4chan is completely obsessed with enforcing their top down vision of the boards but lacks the manpower and tools to do it.
No.152668
>>152667
There won't be any naming/promotion of a site used to post cp on 4chan here.
No.152669
New or untrusted IPs still have to wait 120 seconds before posting on 4chan. And if they have waited and made a post, but want to make another post in a different thread, they have to wait 120 seconds again. Just requesting the captcha in another thread resets the timer.
It's like they want to lose users. Or they're dumb enough that they think this bullshit will generate pass sales.
No.152670
This is literally 1984.
No.152673
whoops, i had no idea
No.152679
>>152600I do wonder that if 4chan dies it takes the appeal of imageboards with it, such that few migrate to alts and were left with a handful of scattered sites.
No.152680
>>152679Yeah. It would be like that. rebuilding it's public reputation is impossible. Unless imageboards are destined for notoriety which they could be.
No.152683
>>152680I mean in more of the sense that the entire chansphere would die as what remained on the alts wouldn't be able to hold on.
No.152684
>>152683Advertising small chans would definetly be harder
No.152685
>>152683I refuse to be fucking herded into those niggercattle sites like X or whatever alt for microblogging bullshit there is, fuck that.
No.152686
>>152685I know we don't, but I wonder if a lot of people will just throw up their hands and go to xitter rather than find an altchan
No.152687
>>152686They do, and that's what most are doing and that fucking sucks.
I don't know what the future for imageboards are, I'm scared for it because this is all I known, I grew up with this shit since I was
13 No.152689
>>152687Same though I've been on my fair share of forums too though I wish I hadn't given how much of an absolute turd I was and the fact that the username associated with that forum account will forever be tied to my identity if I use it again
No.152690
>>152687I have spent my whole adult life on imageboards, they're my home and I have strong feelings for them that people often find cringe.
No.152691
>>152686I think 4chan is serving more as the holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter what time we're in. But also that market is locked to 4chan because of that immense notoriety pull which garners it all the attention it has in the first place. As we saw recently plenty of people are happy to jump ship to alts if it dies but if 4chan is alive then they'll begrudgingly still use it because of the addiction it's built in them.
No.152692
>>152585Oh come on its not even a month after the damn incident.
No.152693
>>152651Sleep deprivation is not good for you.
No.152694
>>152691>holdout for people still interested in the web outside of huge social media sites, and there will always be that market no matter whatI certainly hope so
No.152695
>>152657How aggressive exactly?
>>152661You are way too paranoid about this privacy nonsense.
Just use plain FF and blend in with the crowd.
No.152696
>>152669>it will reset the timer if you make another request on a different threadBollocks! That only occurs if its from a different board (i.e. make a captcha request on a red board then on a blue board vice versa).
No.152697
>>152685This post reeks of tryhardism
No.152698
>>152686Or maybe the userbase of terminally online freaks overlap each platform from the start.
No.152699
>>1526914chan is categorically classed as a huge social media platform though. Stop lying its not funny :(
No.152700
>>152697>>152698>>152699Jesus christ just make one post instead of three you dumbass.
No.152702
>>152696Nope, it's per thread now. It's new since the hack.
No.152703
I'm sure pre hack this thread would have been deleted immediately for low quality
https://boards.4chan.org/c/thread/4406515 No.152711
>>152709>>152710Is the joke that cloudflare and every social media site do worse things?
The only suspicious thing is that they have such a way to inject javascript through websockets. They could just run any javascript they want by putting it on their website (like integrity.wasm itself), but that they have such a direrced method makes me think it's to run special javascript payloads for certain known users. Possibly even zeroday exploits. Imagine the top soyjak (who is admin and literally looks like the ugliest drawings on their site) getting offended by a user who posted a loli vampire, and he goes all LE PEDO MENACE MUST DESTROY, and runs a zeroday (which he purchased on the blackmarket for thousands of dollars) specifically on that user's browser to "own" him.
No.152718
>>152709>>152710If this happened 4 years ago, Soot (site's original creator) would've gotten raped to death.
No.152719
>>152709>>152710Kinda funny how sites can just abuse users at a certain level of momentum and they'll just take it like bitches
No.152730
>>152719Kids these days plaster their real name and face online anyway, I doubt they care about their favorite site knowing all about them, if they even know it does that.
No.152742
>>152500>since 2022 any particular reason it happened then
No.152743
>>152742Government covid policies started winding down
No.152744
>>152743was the site dying until covid
No.152748
>>152739I'm going to delete all of your files.
No.152749
/j/ now leads to a 404, the board seems to have been either deleted or moved.
No.152750
>>152749They probably renamed it or did something with the access rights. But the cynical worse case scenario is probably that it has served its purpose and got shut down so now everyone is going to use the internal moderation Discord.
No.152778
>>152749>>152750Yet another imageboard that degraded into a discord channel, just literally now instead of de facto.
No.152802
rottingangels is dead? when the fuck did that happen?
No.152838
>>152808thanks, i didn't really go there but it felt very unique, shame it's gone now. RIP
No.152942
>>152570>You should probably look at the numbers a month, half a year, or a year from now.The PPH trend looks to be fairly stable. It's been nearly a week. I think it's safe to assume that there aren't going to be any spikes from people suddenly finding out 4chan is back. If anything, the lack of gradual increase over the course of a week tells me that the difference Pre- and Post-hack reflects the attachment level users had to 4chan, meaning that the remainder who have yet to return are unlikely to return at all and have likely found alternative outlets for discussion that they might have used 4chan for.
>Altchans have a 20 year long habit of dying down.Nowhere did I mention non-4chan imageboards. We're exclusively talking about 4chan here.
No.152970
>>152942I was actually sorta posting on 4chan again before the hack but it going down and seeing the potential for other imageboards made me quit completely.
No.153054
>>152748It's okay anon i don't post there, i just lurk
>>152808Sucks to see, that site had potential and a forum/imageboard hybrid is something i have not seen anyone else do
No.153435
>>152500Is 4chin kill for good this time? On a serious note, I feel like the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.
No.153594
>>153435>Is 4chin kill for good this time?No.
>the quality of imageboards in general has just plummeted since the beginning of the soy invasion.There's a reason why a lot of new altchans ban their shit. They are the internet equivalent to cockroaches.
No.153610
I cannot access [s4s]. whenever I go to the catalog: a giant video of kirby opens up. is this some epic new meme?
No.153622
>>153610I only see a stickied thread with an enlarged frog image.
Maybe 4chan really shouldn't have come back.
No.153630
>>153610Yeah it's not just you
No.153642
I see kirby with 4chan X and the frog without
No.153646
wow even [s4s] dislikes the reddit frog
No.153656
God, I hate s4s so fucking much
No.153659
>>153656We need to make a Shit Kissu Says
No.153660
>>153659isn't that just jp?
No.153662
you're saying it right now
No.153666
>>153610Go to
https://boards.4chan.org/s4s/thread/12228561then zoom out and block the element with something like UBO.
No.153669
>>153659We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard culture; it can't come back any more than lolcat macros or rageface can.
No.153670
>>153663You were always the problem, and now the problem grew even larger than you.
No.153673
tumblring down...
tumblring down...
No.153675
>>153670>You were always the problemPlease elaborate.
No.153681
>>153669>We've moved out of the post-irony phase of imageboard cultureI'm not so sure about that frogs and wojacks are still everywhere
No.153782
So far it seems that kissu stabilized into a regular posting cycle. Going off of the recent posts tab as a metric, it seems like the last 60 posts rarely exceeds past the 3 hour mark.
No.153810
4chan has seemingly implemented a shadowban system where certain users are able to "post" and don't show up as banned but none of their messages actually get put on the site
No.153811
>>153810That's not a shadowban and it already exists in the leaked source code. The purpose is to confuse bots.
A real shadowban would show the posts only to the poster's IP which isn't really meaningful for a website not hard gated behind a login.
No.153812
>>153810>>153811Yes, it's old. Under what circumstances does it happen? It used to happen to me all the time when I misentered the captcha, but it suddenly went away and I have no seen it for months.
No.153824
>>153823Don't worry /pol/ schizos are contained in their own board.
No.153825
We have a /pol/ board too and it doesn't even contain the 'zos. we can't throw stones from our glass house ...
No.153826
>>153825What are you talking about?
No.153827
Why is berun like that?
No.153828
Bleh, I dislike allowing any drive-by promotion, especially of Tor boards that will probably become massive CP spam hubs, but he did do what another mod said to do so I can't really blame him.
No.153829
8chan seems to be holding some kind of meme event with a vtumor lol
No.153830
>>153828I'm just trying to attract some touhou posters on my board, sorry if this bothers you. By the way CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worry.
No.153831
>>153830>CP is banned on Aoichan so don't worryI'll try and be as nice as possible since you don't seem that malicious a person but Tor boards don't really work unless you're a free speech absolutist with that goal in mind because you can't ban anyone and anyone you moderate will just hop on another IP to spam 5 seconds later because it's trivially easy to. Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activism.
No.153832
this disaster just disasted me
No.153833
>>153822Doesn't look bad but it's a bit aimless, no? Like what's the theme? Isn't it just 4chan on Tor?
No.153834
>>153831VPN users can do the same thing here, minus the /pol/ part.
>Having any /pol/ board under that condition is a recipe for disaster and real life coordination/activismWho cares? Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.
No.153835
>>153834Not with as much ease, we've mostly killed a good bit of VPN ASNs.
No.153836
>>153834>Who cares?When your site raids real life, real life raids it back. That, and imageboards only ever attract the resentment-driven type of activism whose only aim is sadistic spectacle.
>Don't look at that board if you don't want to see politics.Politics never stay on their designated shitting board because those boards become breeding grounds for nutjobs who believe it's their mission in life to spread the demons in their head everywhere.
No.153837
who sages
No.153838
>>153837All my homies sage
No.153845
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153848
>>153836real life can't raid back if it's an onion-only site lol, unless the owner is a retard that logs into his gmail over tor or puts third party scripts on his site or something
No.153850
>>153845DDoSing the raspberry pi in your parent's basement is still a raid.
Overwhelming your site through sheer numbers and derailing all discussion to be about things you hate is still a raid.
But more realistically, you will take the site offline in a few months because you got bored of nothing ever happening.
>>153848Dumb torposter.
No.153853
>>153852
Yes! YES!
No.153860
>>153830It's a nice sentiment, but I don't use Tor for the reason
>>153831 stated. For my purposes of being a 2hufag I got what I need already, there's nothing that an onion site offers me that I want out of it.
No.153891
>>153646Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated from? I remember pepes were seen as the spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thing.
No.153894
>>153891>isn't [s4s] where the term "dumb frogposter" originated fromYes, it came from them
>spammy cancer polluting imageboards before jaks were even a thingWell pepe and wojak were fairly contemporary, its just that pepes became popular with normalfags and tourists before wojaks did
No.153900
>>153894I'm aware. I was specifically referring to the soyjaks spammed on /qa/ around 2020. The original wojak alongside the one that was made to mock soyboys circa 2017 have become normalfag memes on their own and thus has faded into obscurity for the most part. What i was saying is that before that pepes were the closest thing.
No.153906
I never understood how the wojak overtook the frog because I stopped looking at 4chan around the time they transitioned
No.153908
>>153824>/pol/ schizosYou may have schizos, but I don't see the poster specifically known as /pol/ schizo on your board. If he was there your overboard would be 90% threads about how everyone he doesn't like is a psychopath and we ought to do national defense which means covertly kill them and their kids. Has he tried to post there?
>>153828>>153830Spam is more of a problem on Tor boards than CP in practice. Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?
No.153931
>>153906mental illness and a lot of free time
No.154071
is 8chan's captcha not working for anybody else on firefox? even tried creating a new profile with the default setting and still, nothing happens when i click the verification button. no issues on Edge apparently
No.154075
>>153908>Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?honestly i don't know how they manage that. it's insane how l+js is still alive with every post having at least 10 markov chain replies. fagmin is really committed to his job job fed or not, i only have respect for the mod team.
>>154071doesn't work on ungoogled chromium too, i asked in some other imageboard and apparently you need some kind of web worker shit which is very likely disabled if you have some custom setup.
No.154076
>>154075>doesn't work on ungoogled chromium too, i asked in some other imageboard and apparently you need some kind of web worker shit which is very likely disabled if you have some custom setup.damn it. they must have just implemented this because yesterday i posted there via firefox no problems. thanks for confirming it isn't just a problem on my end
No.154078
>>154076mmh, i think i tried posting on it about a year ago on tor and it still didn't work. we're talking about 8kun.moe or .se right?
i'm using umatrix with only html+css+cookies and their cookie system (when they ask you to accept their TOA) does not work. that's what i mean when i said they need some web worker crap
anyway it's not that big of an issue imo, the only somewhat active board is /v/
No.154083
>>154071I must shit and i have no posts. Stopped working for me a few weeks ago when halfchan came back. Im using chromium as well (Brave)
No.154086
>>154070Pretty damn impressive, even if the average post is 4 words long. Truly a massive cultural phenomenon. I really don't like vtubers much at all, but it's nice that a hobby board become so massive in such a short amount of time. This happens like twice a decade so it's a big deal.
No.154087
>>154086>that a hobby boardOn one hand you'd think this is the case, but /vt/ is more 90% drama and very little to do with the actual hobby, if it can really be called that, if memory serves correct.
No.154092
>>154087It's basically the streaming community hiding behind anime avatars. There is a small portion of the board that does look at the hobby and etc. but by and large the people this attracted is why some people have not been back from the bunkers.
No.154093
>>154075>aidschan killing itself even harderGood.
No.154243
>>153908>Have you given any thought to how you'd handle the sort of Markov chain bot spam lambdaplusjs has been getting?if you set up a piece of software that uses ip addresses as the way of user identification on a network where ip addresses are meaningless then you obviously need to bring on an application layer method of user identification
for instance, kohlchan allows tor/i2p posting. if you crack an argon2d hash, you get a session. then you can post freely. if you misbehave your session is revoked and you'll have to crack another hash. since argon2d is designed to be painfully slow for cracking, it essentially works as a PoW solution that guarantees the user's anonymity while making it a hassle for troublemakers
of course it won't deter the most egregious spammers but ip bans won't either
No.154335
please enable sage in happening threads.
not all posts are worth a bump.
>>153906some retard on 4/qa/ said that a well-placed wojak would make him laugh uncontrollably. honestly, it's probably impossible for us to understand the minds of 13-year-olds who laugh so hard at wojaks that it brings them to brink of pissing themselves with laughter.
No.154336
>>154335>not all posts are worth a bump.are you referring to the forced sage of the blog and 404 threads?
currently, the opposite mechanic is in effect, and all posts in this thread take it to the top of /qa/
it's bugged in /all/ weirdly enough, the two don't sync
No.154358
>>154335>not all posts are worth a bump.May yours don't, but all my posts are extremely important.
No.154361
>>154335the posters here from a year ago lost the right to sage this thread forever
No.154363
>>154361when will sage jesus come and deliver us from this predicament
No.154464
>>154335>some retard on 4/qa/ said that a well-placed wojak would make him laugh uncontrollably. honestly, it's probably impossible for us to understand the minds of 13-year-olds who laugh so hard at wojaks that it brings them to brink of pissing themselves with laughter.it's honestly adorable
No.154516
I figured since it has been a bit over a month, we should see what has happened to 4chan since he downtime. It seems like overall, 4chan has recovered some pre-hack traffic bu it is still missing around 5000 posts/day of activity and it has plateaued. Looking around at some of the boards, it seems like most has recovered and in fact, some boards have grown. However, if you look at the top four losers from
>>152500, although there has been some recovery, /vg/, /pol/, /vt/ and /a/ have all still declined and have not gotten back the users from pre-hack. Only when you get to /a/ do you see traffic is back to normal largely. Not sure how long this situation will last and if it is because summer is starting but I will keep an eye out for when autumn hits.
No.154522
On the Tor boards, lambdaplusjs has temporarily shut down posting for everyone but the moderators and is brainstorming ways to open back up, possibly less anonymously, without the constant spam.
http://lambdaplusjs35padjaiz4
jw2fugdoeutse262phqr72
uf634s2wdbqd.onion/meta/180863
Some posters have taken refuge at aoichan which was mentioned at
>>153822.
http://i57jbsj7eainn7yzg3vgx2
xjj7nwkbpgvrtxcq5lmcjd
sja23pydfbqd.onion/b/554
Unfortunately the refugees also include the unwanted (by the lambdaplusjs admin) poster known as "/pol/ schizo" (see
>>153908) who has already posted long rants on multiple boards about killing his enemies and their kids. Fortunately, the spammer hasn't followed. In related news, aoichan has merged their /pol/ and /zoo/ boards into "/poo/".
No.154586
>>154464no, it's not. some drooling retard from 4/qa/ said he ate most of a container of multivitamin gummies because they tasted good. that place was a breeding ground for underaged retards still in middle school. (wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were younger though.)
No.154669
>>154586i'm sure those multivitamin gummies tasted great that's why he ate most of the container. the collagen powder i ordered was out so on a whim i bought some collagen gummies and they're delicious. whenever i ate 2 of them i had wanted to eat the rest of them cause the taste was addictive. i actually ordered some other gummies but they aren't even as good.
tl;dr: the vitamin/collagen gummies can taste better than actual gummies.
No.154706
how long has heyuri been deleted for? did the spammer win?
No.154707
>>154706they had trouble with their domain registrar (epik)
they're trying to get it transferred to a different one
No.154711
kissu wins yet another bloodless battle
No.154712
>>154709thats pretty funny. 2d is what actually did them in
No.154743
>>154709ngl they really got better with the LARP, almost makes me nostalgic
>>154518gacha is still pretty active at moe, likely because they don't get wristslapped every 5 threads
No.154744
>posters: 8
>pph: 0
And it's finally dying. There goes my country's old 8ch revival board, we tried our best, but autism was stronger and everyone ended genuinely hated each other by the end. Maybe it will pick back up, but it's getting exponentially slower each week.
No.154745
>>154744How long did it last, or was it just for 4chan's brief death?
No.154748
>>154745the original was one of fullchan's OGs. Died with the site. The revival was made in 2023 and somehow gathered everyone left from there.
But the BO had weird moderation. It just became normal to go cry to him to remove someone was annoying you. Whoever cried more won. And of course, he never moderated politics threads.
No.154752
>>154518I just realized I was dumb and was missing a zero from my first post, I meant 50000 but it's more like 70-80k.
>>154743A lot of more longstanding threads or threads that would get wiped out by the faster speeds are still there and moving a bit. /vyt/ too is pretty active as mentioned but everyone abandoned the /v/ offshoots for the most part from what I have checked.
No.154758
>>154709okay, it's back, assuming the altered DNS entries have propagated for you
new registrar secured
No.154760
>>154744Good. Fuck that reddit place.
No.154761
>>154758yeah, from the front page
>Two days ago, our previous registrar (Epik.com) permanently suspended our domain and banned my account, citing a violation of Code 1466A (a law concerning "obscene" visual representations involving minors, ie. loli pr0nz) - all without any prior notice or warning. They initially intended to permanently seize heyuri.net, and stated their decision was final. However, after some persistence - and citing Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition - I managed to persuade them to allow a domain transfer to a new registrar. Thus Heyuri survives yet another near-death situation. Onward! No.154795
>>154794I wonder where that hat originally came from
No.154796
>>154669Dangerous life hack: take whatever dose of tasteless vitamin pills is right for your lifestyle (but no more), and then treat yourself to a nutritionless snack to reinforce the habit.
No.154797
>>154761>our previous registrar (Epik.com)That's two long, painful falls down the sharp cliffs of the hosting landscape, but let's keep tumbelin' down and see what happens.
No.155352
>>154522Update: Lambdaplusjs re-opened and has been trying various changes to fight the spam, most of which have had limited success. In particular, harsher cooldowns and captchas led to the spammer posting nearly 24/7 while few other people were able or willing (depending on whether cooldowns or captchas were the limiting factor) to post. At the moment, the site is using an improved version of the old /pending/ system. When posts come at an unusually high rate, the posts are collapsed to a stub in threads and don't show up at all in the index, until a moderator reviews them. There has also been an increase in moderator activity, presumably because the mods don't want to see the site forced into going account-only.
About 90% of the posts on Aoichan are now being made by one race-obsessed poster known to others as "/pol/ schizo". Although he makes most of his posts on /poo/, he is not contained there, and fills up the other boards with posts that are not always political but feature similar levels of stupidity and delusion.
No.155374
Seems like 8moe is down due to a DDoS
No.155375
>>155374Nice, I hope these assholes burn.
No.155381
>>155375assblasted
>>155380but do they use the ceremonial marisa hijak pic?
No.155382
>>155381>but do they use the ceremonial marisa hijak pic?Of course not. They're just doing their usual discordniggery nonsense botlike spam, these mouthbreathing retarded subhumans posses not even the illusion of intelligence. One could consider /v/hu to be an """""anime""""" flavored sharty.
No.155400
>>155399The worst feeling in the world is finding a thread on /v/ which has an interesting premise, replying to it seriously, then after scrolling 5 posts realizing it's yet another /v/hu stealth thread.
Every time it happens my hatred grows exponentially.
No.155430
I used to go on /jp/ for the Vocaloid threads but they have become awful over the years.
In other news Sushichan/Sushigirl is down, any clue what happened to it?
No.155431
>>155400I guess I am not the only one. There is genuinely nothing more degrading than walking into a thread that actually asks a good question only to find out it was a /v/hu shitposting thread. I am fucking sick of those people.
No.155473
Seems fags on /bant/ guessed the new 4chan secure tripcode salt.
https://archived.moe/_/search/tripcode/%21%21LuIpev7S7J6/start/2025-04-01/order/asc/Has it leaked somewhere?
No.155474
>>155473I figure its in the documents
No.155475
>>155474Documents? If you mean the hack leaks, the salt got changed after that
No.155476
>>155473>>155474>>155475slight correction: That guy was using a tripcode rolling script to confuse people.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/75488152The real culprit of salt guessing is this guy
https://archive.palanq.win/bant/thread/22757327/#22757990>!!Brock86qeJC>!!cp3TgHlR0QW>!!xHTACKeC+SG>!!Two2A473E5S>!!catxuCNlwYClaims he rolled all this manually, in the span of may. 3 chars I could believe. 4 and 5?
>!!A/NTZmpXRhsThe guy rolling the script also has this unique script.
No.155486
>>155473>>155476There's a reason why everyone is warning against using md5 for security related applications since 20 years ago or so.
No.155492
>>155487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5#SecurityIn the history section above that they mention that other hash functions were recommended over md5 as early as 1996. That it's so easy to crack tripcodes, even "secure" ones, is a practical demonstration of the weaknesses of md5.
No.155493
dumb securitards
No.155497
>>155486>>155492Tripcodes on 4chan do not use MD5. Ordinary tripcodes use DES crypt and the salted ones use SHA-1.
No.155660
>>155380I think they will burn out, sometime soon. On 4/v/ they are hunted down and executed with ever increasing brutal efficiency, while the complete lack of adversity on 4/jp/ should take away part of the charm they yearn for. They are already squabbling between themselves on 4/jp/ and lack of unifying enemy might be the death sentence.
No.155664
>>155660>They are already squabbling between themselves on 4/jp/ and lack of unifying enemy might be the death sentence.you are assuming they aren't just hanging out on some chatroom only making threads when they want to forum games
No.155666
>>155665I believe this is it
>>153744 No.155730
>>155693don't think about it
No.156034
>>155665What will she do with the copper?
I didn't even know you could get it from ponds.
No.156057
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse
According to ma analysis, this is a fake message that happens if you change the geoip region. Your cookie gets flagged as bad and you can't post anymore. Is this correct?
No.156068
>>156057Yes. The leaked source code revealed that 4chan has a system for giving false range bans and shadowbans.
No.156080
>>155380Did you guys saw the last thread before the one that's still up?
What a mess
No.156092
>>156068Using the geoip region (at least I suspect it does) is new.
No.156100
>>156034Pickaxe and hammer are basic tools you need if you want to start with mining and smithing in Vintage Story. Next tool is a prospecting pick that will help you find ore veins that are deeper in the ground and do not have small pieces on the surface to indicate their position.
No.156113
>type only the first 6 characters
Another recent captcha addition?
No.156114
>>156113Also saw "last 5 characters"
I don't know what they want to achieve by this.
No.156239
>>155400>>155431they make stealth threads because mods personally hate anything Touhou related so they even delete actual on topic non-rule breaking posts threads about Touhou vidya. stealth threads are the only way to have even a small chance at discussing Touhou vidya on that board, it's either that or the other shmups threads that also don't want Touhou their because it's a "fake shmup"
No.156395
>>156239¥/v/hu was kicked out of 109 boards, but it was never their fault!You retards literally killed touhou discussion, your threads are garbage even for /v/ standards.
No.156399
I have zero clue why the mods would hate 2hu this side of, say 2014 when every single board is in a general thread chokehold fucking up at least a third of the catalog.
I get disliking hijacks way back in the day for being threads that were really about the threads themselves. At this point though? It's ludicrous to claim be mad on that account when you're letting 33 other generals completely alone to fester in perpetuity.
No.156402
>>156401damn, they've been calling utawarerumono underwater ray romano since kuon was born
No.156403
>>156395>but it was never their fault!>You retards literally killed touhou discussionwhen mods go to the lengths to delete actual on topic threads that aren't breaking rules, then no, it's not exactly their fault. even if you want to point the finger at ritual posters, ecelebfags, etc., it's still not an excuse to go scorched earth. even with all its current problems, at least several people still make an effort to discuss Touhou video games. in fact, there was a thread where somebody held a contest for EoSD to get the lowest score possible on stage 3. non lazy mods would delete the garbage ritual posting and let and on topic posting stay, but they don't because they're lazy and they personally hate anything Touhou and like what this anon said
>>156399, they let numerous other threads with the same problems go unscathed. if touhou threads getting purged from /v/ really was because "generals shouldn't be here", then the other generals would also get purged too, but they don't because mods don't care about being fair and enforcing rules properly, they're power tripping assholes that delete the things that they personally dislike and hurt their feelings and that's it.
No.156406
>Trump involving the USA in yet another war with a country that most burgers couldn't find on a map
How is 4/pol/ taking it?
No.156407
>>156403Aren't those threads 80% eceleb discussion and 20% touhou discussion? I get that touhou is vidya but I don't see anything salvageable from that place
No.156408
>>156406up the butt (didn't visit but I can guess)
No.156409
>>156112It sure as hell counts
No.156415
>>156406They will respond like bots as usual, from everyone else is warmongers to uhm actually it was a good thing america is boss again this is good for oil this is good for america and iran totally had WMD's just like iraq did.
They are not sentient human beings, they await orders from their masters and will parrot it no matter how many times they contradict themselves in a lifetime. Truth does not matter to people to tribalists.
No.156422
Did 4chan stop publishing random bans on /bans?
No.156451
>>156403literal /trash/ general, be yourself cutie
No.156457
>>156422Yes. Mods removed the details of public bans, essentially making the page useless. This change killed 4bans as well.
No.156469
>>156457>This change killed 4bans as well.That's how I noticed. What a dishonest change.
No.156470
>>156457What's the point of keeping that page now? I'm not sure if it ever worked as intended (making you learn what is unacceptable quality by showing examples), but now it doesn't serve even that purpose.
No.156471
>>156470The page was created to make moderation more transparent to the users.
If they just removed the page, it would be like telling the users that they gave up on transparency.
So they made the dishonest decision to keep it in a dysfunctional, useless state. Might have been a compromise between the absolutely dishonest mods, who didn't want the users to see how they bend the rules to ban users they don't like, and mods who don't want to change the status quo because their brains are petrified too far.
No.156491
^ if anyone doesnt believe me about them "scrubbing the site", try to even make a joke about this and the mods remove it within 2 minutes
No.156547
>>156543That's a weird lineup
4-ch is ancient and culturally different to all of those, 39chan is literally a Vocaloid forum, and Fukuoka is...? never heard of that one
No.156562
>>156457Within days of this happening I started getting banned for posting in random threads while breaking no rules. I also stumbled upon some new words that are instant bans. If you attempt posting them you get a 3+ day ban. One of them is a link to an art site where a guy is a critic of modern artists and publishes papers about science stuff. There is absolutely no reason for it to exist on whatever list this is (I assume it's the one for filtering out pizza. Only thing I can think of that would be that harsh). Normally, when I stumble upon random words they've filtered it just doesn't let you post and says it's "spam".
Anyway, it seems I've angered moderation on the two boards I've been poking for the last week. I thought moderation was more lax since the hack because I wasn't getting bothered at all even when posting stuff I knew the moderators disliked but wasn't technically against the rules. But now one is following me around and obviously issuing 3-day bans for things that angered him in other threads. I knew I was arguing with one yesterday because I recognized his typing habits.
I went to the IRC to report the obvious error with that URL and basically got told to fuck off because "this isn't the place to appeal bans". Whenever they don't want to admit to shady shit they just act retarded.
No.156566
>>156562>Within days of this happening I started getting banned for posting in random threads while breaking no rules.That existed before, but now we have to rely on hearsay.
Anyway, the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or something. I have been on 4crap since 2007 or so, but never before have I felt that the moderation is as corrupt as it is now. I stopped defending mods and take every opportunity to point out their kuso behavior.
4chan is literally dead. I don't even know why they brought it back.
No.156568
>>156566>That existed before, but now we have to rely on hearsay.Yes I understand. I'm just saying it wasn't happening as often as before over about the last 2 weeks. I haven't really used it since the hack and I am in a totally new IP range(s) now. Perhaps they just didn't catch on quickly that the same guy was back and fucking around with them again.
>Anyway, the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or something. Indeed.
>I have been on 4crap since 2007 or so, but never before have I felt that the moderation is as corrupt as it is now.Every year is worse than the last. I pine for the days of when it was just /a/ and maybe /a/ and /b/. I miss that sense of freedom and being able to say whatever the fuck you wanted. I don't care if people disagree. I just hate being silenced for speaking my mind because "wrong opinion". Then watching some other guy spew his nonsense all over the place that just happens to have the right opinion. So he's never punished.
To be fair. This isn't exclusively a problem there. It's just more prevalent because there are more eyes on it. Doesn't really matter where you go. There is always some champion of discussion lurking around thinking that everyone else is the real cancer.
If your arguments can't stand without censorship then they aren't worth much at all in my opinion. It isn't hard to simply ignore posts you don't like. Mods shouldn't do anything but delete pizza. Let the users police themselves. This worked fine for decades.
No.156615
>>156614What am I supposed to look at? Bunch of threads with low reply count? Frogs? What's the difference from normal /int/?
No.156616
>>156614The same as every board on 4chan.
No.156617
>>156615I think anon complains that there are women in half of threads op pictures, because int used to be maidenless hangout, how there femoids be there, reee this makes the frog green
No.156619
>>156614What's different? I guess it's lacking a prominent forced meme, but those don't come around very often these days. The last thing I remember them forcing was when 4/qa/ was still around and they were spamming that black and white Chad image. I'm glad that never took off...
Apart from that, it just looks like it suffers from 'generic internet community' syndrome. That could be any board, imageboard, discord or twitter or or whatever. There just aren't many subcultures on the internet these days.
No.156623
I don't use /int/ much but that kind of reminds me of what happened to /k/ a few years ago. /k/ was pretty bad for years but when that Russian war started it was like the board changed over night. Suddenly non-gun political threads were allowed and being posted without any moderation. After like 3 days the board was basically /pol/. It's how that vatnik forced meme got started. The threads about the war were really strange and non-/k/. Instead of people talking about tanks and small arms and drones it was all off topic stuff unrelated to weapons or strategy of war.
I saw the same thing happen to /x/ around the same time. Combination of /pol/ threads and huge uptick in blog posting.
It all reads like the same types of people that changed /pol/'s culture around 2018 or so. Same kind of strategy behind the obvious off-topic BS threads. Flood of bots along with people you could tell hadn't lurked for more than 2 minutes before jumping in to turbo post. Most had to either be jannys or at the very least pass users. Since they were never banned and could by-pass cool down timers. Same kind of things happening in threads as well. They always either replied with rage bait or they would just go off on unrelated tangent. You could tell they were sticking to a script and they always refuse to engage with anything that wasn't on the script.
I'm convinced there are very few real people left on the main boards these days. From time to time the bot farms will stop posting for a bit and when they do the place feels like a ghost town. I'd wager for every real user there are at least 10-30 bots or paid posters now. It's really obvious when they flood in and start posting the same thing over and over again right as a story is breaking in MSM or "going viral" elsewhere. People claim 4chan is now downstream from places like twitter but I don't believe that is really true. Twitter and the other social networks have been around for almost 20 years now. It wasn't until the last couple of years of the 2010s that 4chan was "downstream" from anything. It used to be 24-48 hours ahead of such places. MSM used to be behind and forced to respond to things organically happening on the internet. Now it feels like things are inverted and they're ahead of the internet.
This is my TL:DR way of saying most of the threads on that board at any given time probably aren't real. I imagine anyone that was really into /int/ fucked off to somewhere else long ago.
No.156627
>>156623I miss when /k/ didn't have a dumb war to pick sides on and we could talk about small arms and tanks and shit without someone bringing up stuff on the other side of the planet. I liked sharing my guns and fumo pics with them sometimes.
No.156629
>>156627/k/ and /x/ used to be comfy even after 2014 because they kept the bad stuff to one-two generals. There were tons of tripfags but they kept to their threads.
I knew /k/ was going to get bad when that war started because the flood of outsiders was almost instant. I haven't looked in awhile now but I imagine it never recovered. I know /x/ hasn't.
That seems to be the pattern as of late. Any board that managed to hold together a sense of community gets flooded out one-by-one. I hear the same thing is happening to /toy/ right now. At least I've seen more than a few people complaining about it on other boards.
No.156632
>>156629>>15662320 years ago no one foreseen how vulnerable to misinformation from paid bad faith actors imageboards will be
I'm just happy kissu is kinda maybe slightly holding but the age of anonymous imageboards seems definitely over
No.156633
>>156632It's mainly big online media where this all takes place. You don't really see anything besides typical trolling on alts since it's probably not worth it to the big bot farms or paid bad faith actors to tackle smaller communities. Especially since they can be sniffed out a lot easier without a sea of posters they can hide themselves in.
No.156634
>>156632>he thinks /k/ and /x/ posters are paidProofs?
No.156640
>>156623/k/ is completely unfixable without a rule change that limits the purview of the board to "arms" in the historic Anglo-American militia sense. So long as strategic platforms are allowed on the board they'll continue to be used as a wedge to justify "grand strategy" political posts.
No.156683
>>156640you think people who's food depends on their shitposts will care about the rules?
matter of fact /k/ has been exquisitely moderated. The shills just outposts.
Just in case you don't get it:
There's more more shills than organic posters and it been like this since 2022.
No.156687
>>156683What shills? Just because you're a zigger who feels threatened they're not "shills".
No.156689
>>156634Anyone that used /k/ before the great flood of pro-NATO posters knows the truth
No.156703
>>156629>That seems to be the pattern as of late. Any board that managed to hold together a sense of community gets flooded out one-by-one. I hear the same thing is happening to /toy/ right now. At least I've seen more than a few people complaining about it on other boards.Don’t forget the general population trend for the whole site has been decreasing for years now and there have been no great influxes lately ala 2013 or 2016. Therefore it’s unlikely that outsiders like Twitter users are responsible.
Really what we could be seeing is the cannibalism of the remaining userbase by the neo-4chan cult-ure. There’s no one single bogeyman but a collection of various groups and individuals responsible. Ranging from corporate shills to discord groups to government agencies to brainwashed /pol/sharts to the site administration. The one saving grace is there’s no unified front and they all have conflicting interests.
Maybe if the boards managed to band together like /qa/ they could pushback against this.
No.156710
>>156689They were always here. The war only made them speak out.
No.156775
>>156710Probably but that doesn't change the fact that it happened over night. There had been plenty of NATO vs. other countries wars over the years. /k/ mostly just stuck to talking about weapon systems on either side and light banter about which was better. /k/ always had its fans of Soviet era/Russian hardware and even had a somewhat pro-Russian slant during other conflicts. But when this war was announced there was a flood of obviously new people spamming every thread about it. They refused to keep it contained to one thread. Then they refused to keep it contained in just one thread when there was an attempt to force them to co-exist. I'd been using /k/ for a long time and I never saw anything like it on that board ever.
Sure there were annoying tripfags in the AR and AK generals and the attention whores. But they were the kind of tripfag attention whores that showed up to meet-ups dressed in cosplay and cummed in the brownies. They weren't the kind that shit all over their own home.
/k/ changed so quickly that I went from lurking it for over a decade to not visiting it at all within the span of like 5 days. That's how drastic the shift was.
No.156777
>>156775>Then they refused to keep it contained in just one thread when there was an attempt to force them to co-exist.I should be more clear. They refused to co-exist within one general for the war thread. In the past any board would have no allowed what happened on /k/. Where there were two generals for the same topic comprised of people talking about the same thing just rooting for a different 'team'. If this had not been allowed they would have probably burned themselves out and would have been contained within just another general. No doubt new tripfags would have been born as well. But the rest of the board would have been safe as it had been for years. /k/ was always good about containing its cancer.
By allowing both sides to have their own general they not only shit up their own threads but also every other thread. Used to be you could ignore the AR/AK general(s) and use the rest of the board in peace.
Also before anyone says it. No AR/AK generals having their own threads wasn't the same as having two for a war. /k/ never really had generals for wars. War hardware? Yes. War news? Sure. But there was never really a "Talk about the war and spam memes between happenings" thread. When something was blown up or a major offensive happened /k/ would talk about it for awhile. Mostly in a non-political context. Otakus salivating over hardware they'll never own/run and that sort of thing. Or tactics. But never general 'link to MSM and spam memes' threads. In fact, that stuff was expected to be hosted off the board (ideally /pol/) to prevent weapon otaku from being flooded out. Which is exactly what happened.
There is nothing to replace what /k/ was on the internet either. Every other place where you can talk about /k/ stuff is flooded with the type of people you don't want to discuss /k/ stuff with.
No.156778
>>156689>>156629It's just appalling what happened to /k/
And OPchan is long dead too.
No.156783
>calling it a NATO war
You wouldn't complain if /k/ was pro russia. I guarantee it. You dishonest retards are too obvious.
No.156804
Ukraine/Russia war just makes me sad for both sides
No.156805
I don't believe in saging.
No.156832
>>156804This war ruined so many russian speaking online communities, and internet in both Ukraine and Russia became much more divided, with both sides block each other while strengthening own echo bubbles, so I basically can't feel comfortable there.
Not surprised it did damage to other places aswell.
No.156888
>>156800dicks out and masturbate too; I know you want it, anon. It's ok, no one will learn; you don't have to pretend to retain moral high ground.
No.156890
>>156888Maybe you can't take the high ground but I can, projector.
No.156979
>>156689I'm telling you I quit using /k/ in 2011 because it was too Neo-Con.
There's always been some libertarian (mostly over how literally dicks in their ass gay they always were) bent to /k/ but the establishment water carriers were too me absolutely intolerable over a decade ago.
I'm sure it's worse now just simply due to the establishment being itself crazier relative to 2011, and I can see in 4stats /k/ has disproportionately bled users so it's probably created a selection effect where the crazies are even more concentrated as a proportion of the site.
But as far as I'm concerned /k/'s degradation is linear and a longstanding process.
No.157008
>>156979>the establishmentYou act as if evil people with money and political power are a monolith, which is objectively wrong. Le culture war exists in large part
because they aren't a monolith.
No.157018
>>157016>Don't be a fagWords to live by.
No.157019
>Tel_Aviv_University
I've heard stuff like how Epstein was involved in Israeli politics as well.
No.157033
>>157016>username “joebidennnn69” >hebefagkek what a fag
No.157036
>>157020
What does this have to do with imageboards?
No.157044
>>157016Despite my usual low opinion of the 4mods they were wise to get rid of those kik threads finally.
Or, maybe it was only directly because of this case.
No.157059
what happened to ota
No.157060
>>157059not sure what you mean ths site's up
No.157061
cert expired keepin the norms out
No.157063
>>157059Their HTTPS expired but its still accessible
No.157066
>>157065
Why do you think this is something worth posting? Do people really need to read a detailed description of cp in this thread? Christ, get some common sense.
No.157070
>>157066Being right on internet is more important.
No.157481
How realistic is the claim that shitposters get protected or protect themselves by rogue jannies?
No.157482
>>157481Pretty realistic.
No.157483
>>157481i never believe them unless direct proof is posted
unprovable theorizing just makes you go schiz
No.157484
>>157482Elaborate.
>>157483Even some of the widely accepted stuff is unproven.
The recent leak never leaked the entire database, right? It would have shown who banned what.
No.157498
>>157481mods are more likely to do it than jannies, but it's less protect and more "enable in order to spite someone else"
No.157501
>>156775after magaman won in 2016 a LOT, and I mean a LOT of western money was redirected to try and control narratives on the Internet, because that's basically how he won.
They were some 10 to 15 years late, Russians and Chinese were already doing this
However westerners are crippled on this endeavour because it's more or less proven that the only ways to control a narrative is silencing inconvenient speakers, and they can't exactly expropriate reddit, twitter or 4chan.
Ergo all the shilling you see on /k/. All wasted taxpayer money trying to convince people who will never, ever change their opinion.
No.157502
>>156614/int/ was propped up by discovery culture. After they ran out of obscure country trivia to discover, the only things left to do on /int/ were blogging on general or /soc/ / feels posting on the front page.
No.157505
>>157484>Elaborate./dbs/ quite literally exists out of spite. even jannies on /j/ call this out and say they are being made to moderate a general that does nothing but shitpost when doing that gets other threads topic banned very fast.
No.157570
>>157481It has been proven over and over again throughout the years I've been on the internet that mods have been doing this since forever. They did it on BBSs, they did it on USENET, the did it on Fidonet, they did it on forums, they do it on imageboards and it happens on major "platforms" like youtube.
I'm not sure if you even lurked /cow/ but the youtube mafia of "trusted reporters" and whatever they call mods were exposed multiple times. They all hung out together in the same chats/private email lists/boards together and they covered for each other. That's why all the "influencers" covered the same things and released videos about those things within hours of each other. That's why important "influencers" could get away with doing things that would normally get someone small banned. That's why any small channels that exposed such people got insta-banned. That's why "influencers" that got strikes could get them easily overturned and go on like it never happened. Similar leaks happened with twitch, twitter and yes even 4chan and 8ch multiple times in the past. Never mind the things our Japanese friends on their communities have exposed over the years about mods and admins selling out and datamining them.
>>157483No proof is ever good enough for you people. Also if done carefully it's usually impossible to prove most anything. Much can be learned through simple speculation and common sense. All one has to do is see the patterns.
Take /g/ for example. Same shit bait threads posted everyday for years. Mod caught doing it multiple times. But point it out and post the proof. Enjoy your ban and enjoy being called a "schizo".
I've personally been run off both /g/ and /a/ multiple times simply because I tried talking about something the mod or the mod's friend dislikes. These people have google alerts set-up to instantly notify them when certain names and phrases are posted anywhere on the internet. They even have it linked to their private chats so they can dogpile in to "control the narrative". When that fails they just ban anyone that speaks out or flood the place with bots and/or pizza. If admin or mod is involved (usually are) they'll pass along your IP address in an attempt to dox you as well. They'll even go as far as DDOS'ing it to prevent you from using the internet at all.
Just find something they dislike and try to talk about it if you don't believe me. Leave them bread crumbs to faked social media accounts to follow and maybe get yourself a residential IP address that's easy to set-up honeypot behind. I've routed my posts through one before then waited and watched to see what would happen. Next thing you know they're posting the faked social media accounts name/info in the thread in an attempt to scare you and they're running through every script kiddie tool on the planet attempting to pwn what they think is your real PC. It's very sad and pathetic but that's the world we live in.
Don't ask me why people are like this. I will never understand it myself. They have a massive need for attention and they're willing to sell their soul for paper. It's sad and we'd all be better off without them. They are the exact kind of people that shouldn't have been allowed anywhere near a device with internet access. They're the exact kind of people that refused to use the internet until social media became a thing.
If you think they're nasty to anons you should see how they talk about their "fans" and people that send them money. I've sneaked into their private chats before. Trust me. They aren't shy about letting everyone know how they feel about the "idiots" that send them money and make them rich.
No.157576
>>157570>Mod caught doing it multiple times. But point it out and post the proof. Enjoy your ban and enjoy being called a "schizo".You can post it here. Please do so.
>I've personally been run off both /g/ and /a/ multiple times simply because I tried talking about something the mod or the mod's friend dislikes. Like what, on /a/?
No.157579
>>157576>You can post it here. Please do so.I forget the mods name but he was doxed long ago. He basically posts the bait threads about how Linux/FOSS is garbage and Apple is great 20 times a day. If you lurk when he's asleep there is at least one dedicated anon that posts his dox from time to time. But he has to be really creative because there is no fewer than 9,000 filtered versions of the mod's name in the word filters.
There are some other no-no topics you flat out can't discuss as well. But I'm not going to talk about them here right now because if I posted them here it would attract the kind of attention I know the admin doesn't want.
>Like what, on /a/?If you talk about who's running Nyaa/Seadex/private trackers expect a flood of outsiders dogpiling. If you post proof of what they're doing expect at least a 3-day ban. They like 3-day bans because you can't appeal them and the mod can get away with lying around the real reason they banned you.
Again I don't want to go into too much detail. For what it's worth. If you point out the private tracker thing and the seadex/nyaa thing on /g/ they dogpile on you there too. But at least the thread usually gets to 20 posts from what I suspect are real people before the mod comes along and deletes it for being "off-topic".
There is a lot of stuff like that you can't talk about and that different groups of idiots have a tight grip on. For example, the group mentioned above that controls modern "fansubbing" has been making lots of money selling nyaa accounts for years now. At least $100-$500 for an account. Which costs them nothing to create from the admin panel. They claim registration is closed for pizza spam while having at least 25 or more moderators. So wtf are they even doing?
Similarly, these same people have gotten their groups auto-listed in all the *arr software above actual groups. They also run the "private" torrent trackers. Which are somehow "private" despite being promoted on reddit, /g/ and a million other places and discussed openly everyday. If you point out that it's impossible to secure and make the torrent protocol "private" they gaslight and dogpile and accuse you of being some kind of federal agent and/or claim you're "butthurt" because "you can't get in". As if passing an interview on IRC is hard or something. They also really hate it if you point out how easy it is to use USENET/IRC to get the same content faster. Or how anyone can ghost leech off these "private" torrents without them being able to do anything about it.
A few weeks ago I ate a multi-month ban for teaching anons on /g/ how to ghost leech from private trackers. Since they can build ratio easily if they're already members and their friends can download anything from the tracker without an account as long as you share the torrent's hash with them. It isn't even hard information to find. It has been on the installgentoo wiki for years. Which used to be used by a lot of /g/entlemen before this current batch of mods took the place over sometime in the mid-2010s.
Same thing happened when we all fled to /tech/ before the great purge of websites in late 2019. Similar group (probably the same people) weaseled their way into mod positions on that board and shut down open discussion. So we fled again...and again...and again...until eventually there was only like 3 of us left and it became impossible to attract any new blood.
There are a lot of topics like that on different boards that are basically instant ban and/or harassment/flood by dedicated groups. Last week I found yet another link that's on 4chan's instant ban list. No spam warning or anything. Just instant 3-day ban and claim that you were attempting to post cheese pizza. The website is simply some dude's blog where he talks about /sci/ and /art/ stuff.
No.157580
>>156566>the 4chan mods will IP wipe you for the pettiest shit if they don't like you personally or somethingA few days ago I saw a legit poster with 100+ posts get nuked from a thread because he somehow indirectly triggered a scat spamming IP hopping nigger
No.157585
>>157579>But I'm not going to talk about them here right nowSo it's shitposting and you're afraid of getting called out even here, where the mods have no power.
>If you talk about who's running Nyaa/Seadex/private trackersThat just goes into plain doxxing territory, and is an asshole move to begin with. Good work, mods.
>The website is simply some dude's blogWhich you can't post here because...
No.157586
>>157580Sometimes they wipe entire IP sub nets. I know because I annoyed a mod once by resetting my IP at least 10 times. Then I got bored of it and got a new IP one last time, and started posting normally. When they did the range wipe, my recent posts from my new IP got deleted, but I wasn't banned and could continue posting.
No.157587
>>157570> Much can be learned through simple speculation and common sense. All one has to do is see the patterns.tldr it’s all pure speculation and delusion that exists only in your head. You claim to have seen all these proofs and private chats yet you never posted any logs and dodge all requests.
Same goes to your “multimedia OS”. You blog it everywhere including places like frenschan yet nowhere have you posted any demo or screenshots of it. It literally doesn’t exist, just like all of your shizobabblings.
No.157593
>>157585>So it's shitposting and you're afraid of getting called out even here, where the mods have no power.I've explained several times that if you mention certain keywords and link to certain things it draws in people no matter where it's posted on the web. Do you really want me bringing that here just to prove you wrong? (you are wrong by the way)
>That just goes into plain doxxing territory, and is an asshole move to begin with. Good work, mods.First, it's not "doxxing".
Second, posting proof that the people running such places are openly hostile and profiting off things that should be free/done for the love is not "doxing". Posting screenshots of what they openly discuss in public is not "doxing". The mods only ban such things because the exact people that were being shown to do these shady things were posting in the thread much as you are now. Claiming everyone is crazy and lying while openly linking to the thread in their chat room and sending in the dogs to shit the place up. Just like they openly admit to ddos'ing any and all nyaa clones they don't personally control. Like nyaa.pantsu. It's almost like they're doing it for profit and to be a bunch of faggots isn't it?
>Which you can't post here because...Because it's off topic and if you'd bothered to lurk you'd already know what I'm referencing.
>>157586I too have gotten entire regions range banned simply for posting things within the rules that the mod disliked and falsely banned me over. It's particularly annoying when they're throwing around insults left and right then turn around and swing a ban hammer because you quoted them. Once they slide the first unjust ban in they can always claim you're "ban evading" going forward. The rules are never applied fairly and haven't been for many years.
>>157587Ah I see you're the exact kind of person I was talking about. Makes sense. "Everyone I don't like is the same person". Who's delusional now?
It's almost like there are people getting paid to follow someone around the web everywhere isn't it? That or you have no life. Either way you can't argue in good faith so you have to resort to doing stuff like this.
Pro-tip: spazzing out like this doesn't lend you any credibility and you're fooling no one. You'd be better off not responding at all. But you can't help yourself.
No.157596
I choose to believe him
No.157605
>>157596If you want an instant 3 day ban try posting this:
https://mileswmathis.com/or maybe it's the direct link to this:
https://mileswmathis.com/hiller.pdfI haven't tested if it was the entire domain or just the link to that pdf or one of the other 4 I attempted to post in a reply to an anon on /g/ that asked for direct links. I honestly think it was the mod baiting me now.
As to why I was posting such a think on /g/ in the first place: Threads drift off topic and they'd already been going at it for hours by that point.
Friendly reminder that I don't believe everything I read. In fact, I believe little of it.
No.157606
>>157593> Do you really want me bringing that here just to prove you wrong?Please do so. “They” already know about this place and the fact that you post here anyway, if they want to stop you from posting here they would have done it already.
But I doubt you have any proof to provide at all.
> Who's delusional now?It’s fact and I am correct. You are the same person who is posting about OpenBSD, and multiple long posts recently here on /maho/. Otherwise you would have denied directly that you are not that person. You have the chance right now to prove that I’m wrong. Just say you’re not the same person directly.
But the fact that you mentioned
> follow someone around the web everywhereYou admitted it yourself. I am following the person on /g/ OpenBSD thread and the fact that you brought this out of nowhere is the admission of guilt.
And it doesn’t matter what kind of person I am. It doesn’t make my points wrong. You can’t refute what I have said regarding proofs.
No.157607
>>157606You are annoying and obvious. Please go away.
No.157608
>>157607> Please go away.No.
And yes I am annoying to you. So what? You’re the same except to everyone here not interested to your schizo posting.
No.157610
>>157606So just so we're clear.
You're claiming anon is crazy and there aren't dedicated idiots following people around the web just to annoy people. Your proof is you're a dedicated idiot following someone around the web just to annoy them?
No.157611
>>157610> You're claiming anon is crazyYes because he refuses to provide proofs with lame excuses.
> and there aren't dedicated idiots following people around the web just to annoy people.Don’t put words in my mouth. Read again:
>>157587> Your proof is you're a dedicated idiot following someone around the web just to annoy them?I followed him and gathered evidences, which substantiates my claim that he’s doing the same schizo thing with his “multimedia OS”.
No.157612
>>157605Lame. Everyone already knows there are banned links from the whole /cumg/ exodus. I can do the same right now and get a ban and post banned screenshot.
Put on the real meat. Oh, I forgot you don’t have any to show!
No.157613
>>157484>Elaborate.There's a mod on /tg/ that keeps fucking with the OSR threads because he wants to talk about the V2 version of it or something.
This is all second-hand by the way but I choose to believe it.
No.157614
>>157613look upon this thread and see the fruits of such belief
No.157615
>>157614I don't browse 4chan so I don't really give a shit about the state of /tg/, so why would I need to look above.
I know that it happens, this fucking website is the fruit of mod-fuckery when you think about it.
No.157616
>>157612Anon says the people running private trackers, seadex and nyaa are abusing mod powers to silence people on two boards. You come along and bring up one of the few places that link directly to them by name. Anon says those people attempt to dox and follow people they dislike around. You come along and try to intimate anon by suggesting you've read his posts elsewhere.
Call me crazy. But I'm starting to believe. The truth is out there.
You also seem pretty mad.
No.157618
caught a glimpse of that deletion
No.157619
>>157570>No proof is ever good enough for you people. I believe your conflict of interest claims when there's money involved. quinn and gamejornopros was proofs. But extrapolating this to "EVERY SINGLE CIRCLEJERK ON THE INTERNET IS PLOTTING" is stretching the definition of conflict of interest to the point of retardation.4chan like all forums was created and sustained by a single clique that insisted on it until a fandom formed. 4chan had Raspberry Heaven 22 years ago and even thought there's exactly one (1) person left from that clique still on team 4chan, the culture they fostered is still intrinsically part of site moderation to this day.
This isn't a conspiracy. It's how internet communities work. They don't form spontaneously and there will always be a "first among peers" by design.
No.157621
>>157579>There is a lot of stuff like that you can't talk about and that different groups of idiots have a tight grip on. For example, the group mentioned above that controls modern "fansubbing" has been making lots of money selling nyaa accounts for years now. At least $100-$500 for an account. Which costs them nothing to create from the admin panel. They claim registration is closed for pizza spam while having at least 25 or more moderators. So wtf are they even doing?>Similarly, these same people have gotten their groups auto-listed in all the *arr software above actual groups. They also run the "private" torrent trackers. Which are somehow "private" despite being promoted on reddit, /g/ and a million other places and discussed openly everyday. If you point out that it's impossible to secure and make the torrent protocol "private" they gaslight and dogpile and accuse you of being some kind of federal agent and/or claim you're "butthurt" because "you can't get in". As if passing an interview on IRC is hard or something. They also really hate it if you point out how easy it is to use USENET/IRC to get the same content faster. Or how anyone can ghost leech off these "private" torrents without them being able to do anything about it.Aaah you are part of the torrent hatefandom. makes sense.
having been part of what.cd and currently redacted I've come across a bunch of permahaters like you before. Nothing anyone ever says will satisfy you except the news of the tracker ecosystem just disappearing. Not that you can think of a better replacement or that somehow the people who set up the infrastructure and spent time and money making it work are not justified in trying to make ends meet.
I do concede some of them are disingenous. But your ethical framework and interpretation of what's actually happening is frankly retarded.
>A few weeks ago I ate a multi-month ban for teaching anons on /g/ how to ghost leech from private trackers.Ever considered that you are a known evader and your browser has likely been fingerprinted to track your antics? Because that breaks 0 rules and I could go right now talk about it and not get banned.
No.157622
>>157593>I've explained several times that if you mention certain keywords and link to certain things it draws in people no matter where it's posted on the web.We were talking about 4chan and how the mods abuse their position. There are no 4chan mods in power here, even if they should bother to lurk and post here.
>and profiting off things that should be free/doneWell, they do provide the servers for torrenting or publishing torrents.
>and if you'd bothered to lurk you'd already know what I'm referencing.I'm lurking a lot but don't know what you mean. I know some autobanned sites on 4chan, but they're all fucking cancer. Even if I don't support the mods' general bullshit, I support those autobans.
No.157623
>>157593>I too have gotten entire regions range bannedRegion bans (sub net bans) are not the same as sub net post wipes.
No.157627
>>157605Yeah the first URL leads to "Error: Your post contained banned text." and a 3 day ban for " Error: Your post contained banned text."
No.157643
>>157619>>157621>>157622Thank you for bringing voice of reason to this discussion, anon. Even if there was some truth in his words, it had been severely distorted by his warped perception to the point that it’s better to disregard them completely until some other confirmations appear.
No.157662
>>157643I agree fellow anonymous poster. Everyone is insane but me since I happen to know everything.
No.157667
>>157662Everyone is sane, except you.
No.157763
>>157662I didn't make that post and I was one (1) of the quoted posts.
No.158152
The guy that invented >tfw, aka Wojak, has been forcefully committed.
https://kohlchan.net/int/res/26571100.html No.158153
>>158152I last saw anything from him years ago when he posted vacation photos from Egypt.
Sort of a weird place to go.
No.158154
>>158153Traveling to Egypt is one of those status symbol things.
They don't actually give a damn about the pyramids or contemporary Egyptian history and 1800s culture. Just a thing to cross off on a list of accomplishments.
No.158166
Someone bought kind.moe and 2kind.moe and seems to be creating a /kind/ archive/bunker
No.158205
>>158166The way its worded on the site makes it sound like it's going to be both a /kind/ imageboard and an archive of what was on the original site. If so I wonder if they'll split from Wapchan or keep both running separately.
No.158209
>>158166I'll have to pass along the back up of the previous site.
>>158205It just says it will be a bunker. /kind/ has moved around a lot since the 8chan days, and I think the previous bunker is dead. I do think /kind/ is best as it's own site however.
No.158214
>>158205I wish there was a practical way for admins/community members to establish their identity across domains without doxing themselves, as a quick way to establish trust/reputation in situations like these.
There's GPG, but speaking from experience, most people can't wrap their heads around that no matter how you explain it.
Then again, I wasn't around for the original /kind/, so maybe I'm overskepticizing this and the decision to take up the mantle is proof enough.
No.158216
>>158214>I wish there was a practical way for admins/community members to establish their identity across domains without doxing themselves, as a quick way to establish trust/reputation in situations like these.umm blockchains or something, idk
No.158217
>>158216It's funny because the blockchain meme is easier to explain at face value to the uninitiated, but what it ACTUALLY does in terms of restructuring power relations is even harder to explain than GPG.
No.158220
>>158214As far as i know the creator of the original kind.moe is an admin on Wapchan and knows figamin so both of them are likely aware of it
No.158223
>>158220Best case scenario. Proceed accordingly.
No.158231
>>158214A decent amount of imageboard admins do keep in touch using various means as far as I'm aware (figamin and syrno are both in the kissu steam group after all)
>>158209Maybe but it's hard to say if this new admin can be trusted to actually run the site continuously and not just randomly shut it down like the old sites had. I'd say to let wapkind and kind.moe coexist for the time being.
No.158310
>>158256I don't know all the prerequisite schizolore to make this make sense.
No.158313
>>158310There were two threads about the same anime at the same time. The schizo didn't like one of the threads. The schizo copy pasted two posts from the other thread into this thread and changed them to reflect his opinion. (Notice the added schizo shorthands which barely anyone knows.) 4 minutes later, the original posts got deleted.
It could be a coincidence, but it's very strange timing. They say he's actually a janny, but that doesn't really make sense to me either.