No.174451
>>174441>this site is technically part of a small webring.No it doesn't.
No.174456
>>174442Do they all run Lynxchan?
No.174460
>>174441The Webring is more an idea similar to the twitter clone mastadon(I think) where everyone shares a similar structure and interface with one another though shared infrastructure.
What you're describing is more of a /jp/ sphere where you can find similar interests and different ways to approach it.
The old sphere was ota, what-ch, gnfos and kakashi-nenpo.
Nowadays it's more like us and the various "friend" websites that are listed.
No.174466
You now remember ii/wakachan
No.174480
>>174460>The Webring is more an idea similar to the twitter clone mastadon(I think) where everyone shares a similar structure and interface with one another though shared infrastructure.Not even that. The technology behind the webring is pretty much a fancy version of an affiliate sites page. The webring IBs use a plugin that keeps a board list featuring the boards of every site that has the plugin installed AND is connected to at least another IB in the group. Every site in the webring is owned by completely different people and uses a multitude of IB frameworks. The only things they have in common is that some of the admins come from 8chan.
No.174487
>>174466Still disappointed that the only attempt at making a "new" iichan was that dead clone by some domain squatter that popped up for a few days then died in less than a week
No.174526
Apologies if off-topic but can't think of a better place to ask, anyone recall a sketchy /g/ general sometimes in the 2020s that eventually got banned? Trying to remember what was it about.
No.174527
>>174526This seems like an extremely disingenuous and suspicious post if you know the subject matter involves "sketchy" things. What is your goal of bringing it up?
No.174529
>>174527Trying to remember what was it about, like I said. I get random flashes of memory like that and then I'm curious. ADHD thing, I'm guessing.
No.174531
>>174529Some tech talk about acquiring/organizing masturbation material that morphed into a bunch of bad stuff that then lead into even worse stuff which lead into illegal stuff and now 4chan has heavy fingerprinting of IPs in an attempt to limit the heavy damage from those creatures. Not much else needs to be said.
Also there's a 4chan happenings thread FYI
>>167154 No.174532
>>174531Thank you anon, yes that's it. Wasn't aware about the other thread, had this one bookmarked.
To keep it short, I remembered joining a Matrix server advertised on /g/ with a strange atmosphere back then, then I remembered that thread. Not sure if they were related. Creepy.
No.174535
Does anybody know what happened to that 711chan clone that was made like a year ago?
>>174526Pic related
No.174537
why would someone make a 711chan clone?
the circumstances of its creation no longer exist.
No.174542
5ch blocking gaijins now?
No.174543
Is there a board without /jp/ centrism and strict moderation, but at the same time without /pol/tards (I don't mind conspiracy theorists, as long as they aren't banal Nazis)?
No.174550
>>174537No idea but it did exist for a while and the owner quit due to CSEM spam, leaving the site to three other dudes
https://archive.is/I1semI'd rather have a wakachan clone honestly.
No.174555
>>174543no those are pretty much the only two families of english imageboards left
you need to learn other languages if out want out of those networks
No.174557
>>174543there aren't many in that case
forums or textboards are probably your best bet
maybe petrachan if you're into /lit/ content but that's inactive from my memory
there's the homestuck imageboard and one on trains, i wish there was a language learning or humanities board though
i assimilated to /jp/ culture over time since there are barely other alternatives
>>174555other language boards usually either get shut down or get flooded in /pol/tards sadly
No.174560
>>174543There's sportschan, but at some point the sports board seemed to have morphed into /int/ with the two most active/recent threads being about war and a general /pol/-flavored news thread.
You're kind of limited here. If you don't have strict moderation all imageboards will eventually have one culture and subject and it's conveniently also the one favored by clickbait algorithms since anger is the easiest emotion to exploit. The internet when people are left to be guided by the machinations of outrage porn is a very predictable one.
The Imageboard ecosystem is such that it's where two groups of people go:
1: Old nerds (and people drawn to their outdated culture)
2. People banned elsewhere
Both are shrinking since the first group sheds users to real life obligations, changing interests or actual RL death (the joys of getting older) and the second group now competes with the monetization of outrage on social media or youtube. Well, I guess the first group loses people to that, too, but I imagine most people on imageboards in 2026 have an aversion to social media to some degree if they're still choosing to stick it out on imageboards.
No.174562
>>174543Almost all the boards that were dedicated to minimal moderation have long sailed into the sunset or sunk beneath the waves.
No.174565
>>174555>you need to learn other languages if out want out of those networksI think it's like that everywhere because of globalization. I only know one Russian-speaking place that is relatively good.
>>174560>sportschanCan't post there.
No.174612
>>174543>but at the same time without /pol/tardsEvery community without strict rules on what should be discussed degrades into politics eventually.
No.174648
>>174434>The webring(s) have always been extremely gayIt's the younger generations, some of their ideas have been extremely bad unfortunately. There is an implicit disconnect between the mentalities the old guard and those raised on Discord
No.174654
>>174543>>174560My Megidochan began as /co/ refugess, not a /jp/ splinter group, so the flavor is rather in-house. Touhou is still ubiquitous, of course, imageboards being what they are (the default theme is a Kazami Yuuka tribute, too >:D)
Furthermore, I'm an apathetic, aloof asshole who hates taking moderator action! This does allow the local rambling /pol/sperg to run rampant sometimes, but other users are usually quick with calling him a retard.
>>174560>people on imageboards in 2026 have an aversion to social media to some degree if they're still choosing to stick it out on imageboards.Exactly. Decades of being IB-exclusive breeds a reclusive ethic where calling attention to yourself on a platform like xitter feels oafish and rude. Discord presents problems too, even if you set your online status to Invisible, it introduces a subtle feeling of duplicity to everything
With anon boards, even small pseudo-anonymous ones, you can slip in and out of the mists more freely.
No.174681
>>174543>as they aren't banal NazisWhat you're looking for is free speech but only for yourself. It's selfish.
No.174693
>>174456No, and that's arguably its biggest technical problem. They don't interoperate very well.
No.174694
>>174681There's a bit of a tolerance paradox issue here. Constant hatred drives other people out. It's better to remove people on the grounds of their behavior rather than their ideology, but there's no denying the behavior and ideology are linked.
No.174698
>>174681Nazis (not the buzzword definition) don't value free speech either.
No.174699
>>174698No they value it until they're in charge, then they kill it :^)
No.174723
>>174663>Not really, but if the first class of boards gets big enough they'll evolve past being a /jp/ bunker.has any trve jp spinoff done that?
I'd say kissu is the most diverse topic-wise and likely most diverse of the entire genealogic tree, and its still firmly jp centric
No.174724
Being against freedom of expression and freedom of speech while using imageboards have got to be the dumbest thing ever. We get that you're butthurt leftists but the difference between someone like me and someone like you is that i dont get butthurt seeing leftist kuso. Why do you think nazism is so prevalent on imageboards? Because every other place censors that sort of speech. And now here you are, mad that free speech exists. My point is that you are being hypocritical. If you said something along the lines of that you dont like politics derailibg discussions then i would have agreed with you but every time someone cries about politics on imageboards its always the same kuso. You are simply going to have to learn that free speech includes speech that you will not like.
No.174725
>>174723Wapchan to some extent
No.174726
>>174724Kissu exists because people wanted a hobbyist imageboard without real life bullshit.
If you want to talk about that, 4chan and other like minded sites exist.
No.174727
>>174724>Being against freedom of expression and freedom of speech while using imageboards have got to be the dumbest thing ever.It was you Westerners who misconceived imageboards as platforms driven primarily by free speech rather than as places focused on discussing hobbies, and do not forget that even the largest Western imageboard was modeled after this:
https://www.2chan.net/kiyaku.htm>On Futaba Channel, the following actions are generally prohibited.>Regarding text posts and image uploads:> Defamation, insults, and damage to reputation> Threats and promotion of suicide> Personal information and privacy violations> Stalking and harassment> Repeated posting, server load increase, meaningless spam-like listings> Advertising and spam> Prostitution and compensated dating> Infringement and obstruction> Posting in the wrong board (off-topic)> Trolling, harassment, or causing disruption> Political, religious, or ethnic content>For secondary (2D) images:> Graphic/gory images> Obscene or uncensored images>For real-life (3D) images:> Graphic/gory images> Pornographic images> Child pornography> Obscene or uncensored images No.174728
>>174724Free speech always had limits even on imageboards. Compared to the mainstream yes 4chan was always a bit edgier, but anything more than that was logged and handed over to the authorities. What you're really talking about here is not free speech but differing preferences in discussion topics
No.174729
>>174727> you Westerners who misconceived imageboards as platforms driven primarily by free speechThe West (USA) values freedom of speech to a religious degree. An authentic Western imageboard will preserve this cultural value. It was inevitable that any imageboard made in the West, particularly the USA would be assumed to allow freedom of speech. It's just an assumed part of communication.
No.174730
>>174729Kissu has a board for that but it's hidden. I'm not even sure how far you can take it on that board but it's definitely not for /all/. No one really posts there. I think we all like taking it easy for the most part.
No.174731
>>174729>The West (USA) values freedom of speech to a religious degreeHilariously wrong
No.174732
>>174730I just checked and it's been really active lately.
No.174733
People are entitled to their free speech imageboards, but you can't expect every imageboard to subscribe to that belief.
Such places typically reward negative behavior as the people that spam the most or are the most aggressive are those that set the culture. If Johnny Spamboy says you're not allowed to talk about Video Game A then he will do everything in his power to block discussion of it, and the site will reward him for it as thousands of people that would want to talk about it are overruled by one lone crusader. It gives the worst people the most power. This gives these sites a lower lifespan than most other places, unless people are united in their outrage- which tends to involve tribal politics.
Even the most "chaotic" people want order in their life, like the /intl/ people that preached chaos on imageboards, but would retreat to their steam chats and discords and other rule-bound places to have calm, orderly discussion protected from outsiders so they could have what they denied to others.
No.174736
>>174734Ehh, it's imageboard meta talk. It's the lifeblood of these threads when there aren't any imageboard happenings going on.
No.174744
>>174730By the way has that board always been intended for pol stuff?
Or is just that everything's allowed on there?
No.174745
>>174744>Or is just that everything's allowed on there?More the latter.
No.174782
>>174727Free speech isn't a driver of discussion but it is one of the values underpinning the West therefore it should be expressed in Western imageboards. However I can count with my hands how many times there was an imageboard that actually respected this value.
>>174731The West enshrines ideas like free speech because they claim heritage from philosophers who were slain by tyrants and mobs for expressing their ideas, and here we are in the big 2026 and this is still happening. History repeats itself.
No.174784
Western values are a meaningless term.
No.174788
On 4taba we used to have a chair circle every Monday to talk about our weekend activities and only the anon who currently held the golden idol in his hands was allowed to speak. Arts and crafts time typically came right after to ease any potential tension.
No.174793
Please don't bring up 4taba. I still feel its loss.
No.174797
>>174784Here's an impression of me exercising my freedom of speech as a response to this post if it were made on 4chan:
>You are brown. No.174801
>>174723Not yet, userbases on altchans are too small but IMO kissu is well on its way to becoming its own thing divorced from 4teens.
>>174724¥Achktually you are all leftists¥It's just freedom of expression goyimanon¥Why won't you let me spam my political blogposts??¥You will simply have to tolerate my agendaposting :^)Politics are not hobbies, 4teen rapefugee. Personally I think that you people have become identical to the funny hats with how dishonest your team has become, but this isn't the place to discuss that.
No.174806
Only Libertarian Hoppean discourse should be allowed on me imeorgbords!
No.174837
>>174809Censoring should be censored!
No.174839
>>174809There's no way the Tene knows what that object in front of her is even supposed to be!
No.174854
>>174543Leftypol, if you don't mind posting on a communist imageboard. Their rules are pretty relaxed contrary to what one would think, Nazis don't even get banned on sight technically (but leftypol doesn't tolerate trolling or wrecking as they call it so Nazis tend to naturally get banned). Of course, a communist imageboard is a depressing place to be, because communists tend to be depressed people. So it goes. Politics are generally contained to the /leftypol/ board itself, there are multiple non-political boards.
No.174855
Does anyone know what are the most active /tg/ communities outside of 4/tg/ itself?
No.174856
>>174855Like /tg/ proper or any of the spinoff generals that made their own board?
No.174857
>>174856/tg/ proper, not into the spinoff stuff, mainly TRPGs and TCGs.
No.174936
So which imageboards had an April Fools event this year? Aside from 4chan and over here I noticed Tohno-chan gives you a fake "Site not found" screen before it slowly fades away.
No.174942
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>>174936Wapchan renamed itself to うぐぅちゃん and every post had ayu images and うぐぅ
No.174951
>>174839y-you baka! tene is among the smartest fairies!
No.174962
>>1749368moe's /v/ board enabled flags for all posts
The /gacha/ board also enabled flags but made it so that every single flag showed up as Mongolia
No.175011
>>174948>probably not him?Almost certainly not him. I admit that it would be funny if the real 0037 came back just for April Fools but the tripcode he used on /lounge/ and another thread on DQN don't match with his last known sighting. (
https://archives.4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1197147558/l50) No.175028
>>174724I don't care about the free speech aspect of imageboards. I care about being able to post anonymously. Every single hobbyist community outside imageboards allows anyone to look up your post history. If something like an anonymous twitter or forums existed I would not use imageboards.
>If you said something along the lines of that you dont like politics derailibg discussions then i would have agreed with you but every time someone cries about politics on imageboards its always the same kusoEvery time I complain about politics derailing discussion I get labeled as what is perceived an enemy by politically invested users or just called typical slurs, works both ways. I just want you to shut the fuck up and focus on the subject matter, if you feel like you're being censored that's on you.
No.175064
Any anons here try hosting their own board?
No.175067
yeah. Started in 2021 with a site called kissu.moe
No.175068
>>175064I want to try hosting one of my own soon but I don't know if it'll be expensive
No.175069
>>175068and i have no idea about how i'd be able to grow a userbase either
or how to keep my info private
No.175088
>>175068It won't be expensive unless you're unrealistically successful in attracting users.
>>175069https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_privacy No.175093
>>175064I'm technically hosting one now, but it is locked and hasn't really been advertised. I also hosted another site for a period, but ultimately decided I didn't care for the board as much as I used to and moved on.
Vichan is very easy to set up.
No.175155
>>175064i run an unsuccessful 8moe board, does that count? we don't really like the site but i don't know if i want to take the risk of hosting my own stuff.
No.175163
>>174654Your site looks cool
No.175188
>>174654>My Megidochan began as /co/ refugesfancy meeting you here
I never quite understood how the hsg survivors operated
weren't there like 4 different threads spread around trash, aco, megido and more? did they interact or hang out in some discord?
No.175221
>>174936hikari did not have an april fools this year, although i think one was planned but didn't get implemented in time. kinda sad, i liked their previous one.
No.175223
>>175221What was their previous one?
No.175260
>>175259San Francisco is the world's capital of degeneracy. And I don't think an imageboard should relate to it, is not something that goes with imageboard culture. Also, even less on an event which is a a revindication of vandalism.
No.175272
>>175259That’s some kuso art right there.
No.175279
>>175259is this a representation of what those sites have become? Jesus...
No.175283
>>175064Two years strong, this May.
I should probably do something for it...
No.175285
>>175279Wap hasn't been really active lately
No.175300
>>175259This might be the worst thing I've seen all year
No.175311
>>175279I don't see what's so weird about it. Wap and 39 basically did the same thing for wplace, it's a way to represent icons of the site easily.
No.175319
>>175311This. Not sure what's with the exaggerated reactions ITT, we did this exact thing a year ago with the same sites and Hikari.
No.175325
>>175259When does it end? Some of the stuff is kinda cringe and astroturfed but I don't think it would hurt to put something kissu related on there.
>>175260larp post
No.175327
>>175325>cringe>larpWhere did you come from?
No.175331
>>175327This thread and the 4chan happenings threads have both blatantly been full of 4chan refugees ever since the hack.
No.175336
>>175259I don't see anything wrong with this picture.
No.175345
>>175279>>175300Kissu and Wapchan did wplace TOGETHER less than a year ago, this is pretty much the same thing with the exception that it'll be put in some random alley. What are these double standards?.
Why are we acting like Wapchan now sucks just because they're putting a single image of Lum in a pixel art canvas?. It's not even anything offensive or grotesque like what comes out of soy sites.
No.175347
>>175331this, the holier than thou attitude is a dead giveaway
No.175350
>>175347>holier than thouthis is churchphobic language reinforced by church bad nimes and highly offensive to churchselves please dont use it anymore ``kudasai''
No.175351
>>175327...I don't browse 4teens.
>>175331Yeah it's a shame but at least these threads serve as containment.
No.175394
>>175163Thank you. Though, that impression is inevitably short-lived since it's a conspiracy-minded jilted-ex homestuck board
>>175188In my telling of it, the schism began in June 2014 when Homestuck Generals were banned off /co/ by mod fiat. The community (lol) of the time bounced to [s4s], then a short-lived private imageboard, before then finally settling on 8chan for a good half decade. Nothing "noteworthy" was produced, and it was anon blog/shitposting/drama hive right until 2019 when 8chan got taken down in the wake of the Tarrant/Crusius mass shootings.
From there, an oldfag hosted a new megidochan.moe, but turned out to be a very inactive admin. It was anemically slow and the CSAM spammer would never get cleaned, so a good half of the remaining users packed up for Discord servers at that point.
Can't speak much for the 4chan side, since I knew not to stick around where I was regarded as a nuisance. The /aco/ threads seem stable (those types were around to post porn as much as socialize) and the obedient clingers left behind on 4/co/ were content to create discussion threads when so allowed by dripfeed updates of content.
Further splinters (or more likely fresh shoots) have probably emerged in the decade plus that has passed, born of tiktok newgens or post-Tumblr smallweb girls or what-have-you. Whenever I check the /co/ threads these days, the average age-of-poster still feels like it's hovering around 16, and I'm hit with a wave of arrested development anxiety.
Anyway, since Andrew Hussie shat the bed halfway through with Homestuck, my interest in the property naturally waned. But, since those 2011~2014 rolling General threads were where I hung out online during high school, I'm overinvested in the remaining anons.
No.175413
>>175394> since I knew not to stick around where I was regarded as a nuisance. But why would you be regarded as a nuisance?
I reember that for most of the 10s there were stealth HS threads that would make it to 300-500 posts in a few hours before getting jannied. I never really understood where those guys come from.
The few times I saw megiddo mentioned, it was always derisive. That's when i started to wonder just how many "former hsg" groups were around.
The new kids have been surprisingly decent at keeping nu HSG clean. That said its almost a year old general now and its starting to show signs of degradation -
but with rapeape's new pro general policy i don't know how that will end up.
No.175446
denpa-chan has been down with the message DENPA-CHAN WILL RETURN since at least yesterday...
goddammit
No.175461
>>175260As much as I disdain San Fransisco's lack of civic virtue and rules based order, I really don't think chalking up an alleyway is that same energy.
No.175466
>>175446Who is denpa-chan, tho? Whenever I go to this ib I’m confused because it’s not about the sub genre but some youtuber?…
No.175532
>>175466honestly, I don't care about the YouTuber and neither does a lot of the userbase (I don't know if I would say most of it, but a lot of users don't care)
I'd say lurk more to see if you'd like it or not, but it's still down lol
No.175536
>>175259aaaand we missed it
No.175544
>>175532they're up again, but seem to have dropped being an anonymous textboard and have become a forum
guess that's the end of that, real shame
kinda lame
kinda dunno why they did this, although there was the occasional spambot issue
No.175691
>>175466denpa-chan is run by a musician/youtuber/blogger/schizo, who is part of a self-created "denpa webring" (its pretty small). Not much else to it, I like his blog posts personally desu, and the textboard is decent enough
>>175544Looking at the archives, the shutdown seemed to be preceded by some extreme form of CP spam, from the singular thread existing that's vaguely complaining about it. I'm guessing n0 just canned the anon board and decided to enforce pseudoanonymity to combat abuse, which is lame, but whatever CP spam seems to be the new norm for every alternative bulletin board now.
No.175692
what are the requirements for becoming part of the denpa webring?
No.175694
>>175692I'd say, but I feel like shilling websites that are non-IB adjacent is a bit out of the scope of the thread. If you're really curious you'll find his personal site somewhere on the denpachan website somehow, he mentions the recs there.
No.175695
>>175694if we're not going to talk about webrings, then why even talk about it websites in the firstplace
No.175786
warosu down?
No.175866
https://catbox.moe/>Anonymous uploads are temporarily disabled due to agentic AI abuse and other various issues currently plaguing file hosts like Catbox.>I wish to make it abundantly clear that Catbox is not to be used in any agentic AI workflows, commercial or otherwise. You are flooding the platform with junk data that eats hundreds of gigabytes of storage per day.This sucks, but it's understandable. Truly a blight upon the internet. I don't know how else you'd get around this apart from adding a captcha, so maybe that's coming soon.
No.175867
>>175866maybe he'll also run an adversarial thingamajig or autoban abusive ips
but just a captcha is more likely
No.175868
>>175866Keep in mind that agentic AI isn't the same thing as generative AI.
...with that said, how the hell would agentic AI even interact with catbox? What is there for it to even do?
No.175869
>>175868Some genius vibecode script probably hallucinated a step to upload a file there and then fetch it again because of a confusing instruction by the prompter
No.175871
zzz is acting up tonight.
No.175877
Witchan is killed. It was the only active non-gossip IB for girls.
No.175878
>>175877we still have kissu
No.175885
>>175878Do women actually post on kissu?
that's wild.
No.175892
>>175885Not women, little girls
No.175895
>>175885>"""""women"""""lol
No.175896
any experiencing extreme slow-down with the captcha after the maintenance? I can barely post.
No.175897
>>175877I only posted there for the first week I thought the site was down for maintenance today
>>175892Everyone on the internet is a little girl!
No.176007
>>175902Why do you have a picture of yourself getting molested?
No.176009
a certain ib admin literally slit his wrists because his 4090 died and he can't replace it
are these admins really under so much pressure a gpu makes them flip
No.176011
>>176009It takes a certain kind of mentally unstable individual to be an imageboard admin. Don't you know this?
No.176014
>>176009Depends on the culture and whether you're doing it alone or not.
Many boards have an adversarial relationship between staff and users so being an admin/mod is a thankless, stressful job with little reward and obviously no monetary compensation. If you're alone then the isolation will eat away at you over time since there's an "me vs them" thing going on.
I wouldn't recommend it.
No.176015
>>176009I can't believe Hiro is fucking dead.
No.176017
>>176016Hotwheels died awhile ago.
No.176019
>>176009everyone knows its the guilt he feels over cheating his nuzlocke
No.176020
>>176009We don't deserve Big T
No.176021
>>176020I never understood the gnfos thing. Haven't watched any of his streams. Why the following?
No.176024
>>176021People just follow him to laugh at him like DSP.
No.176026
>>176021Some people view Something Awful's ironic shitposting thing as a plague that largely wiped out sincerity on 4chan and then the wider internet with its corrosive template humor that openly attacked people that admitted to enjoying things or made contributions. Others find it to be hilarious and a comforting blanket where your true opinions or feelings can never be challenged through the chaotic mess of competitive apathy.
gnfos exemplifies the latter culture, kind of a time capsule to 2010s irony if you were one of the people that saw value in that instead of the beginning of the end.
No.176031
>>176021free babysitting services
No.176032
>>176021He is one of the og /jp/ shitposters, so the younger /jp/ shitposters look up to him. Also he is very open about his family and personal life, so some people got really invested in his life story.
No.176033
>>176026The whole thing with Trevor is that he integrated it into his real life making the other ironylords of yore look fake and uncommitted. That's why the talented ones of them moved onto Twitter grifting, making Elonbucks off normies to whom the culture finally caught up to
No.176034
>>176032I just remember the "I drive" memes on /jp/ not sure if they were related.
No.176037
His gf found his stream and started messaging him live and confronting him about blocking her and being mean tonher mom. So he had to delete his stream. Im sure this is another one of his arcs to distract from his girlfriend. You know the one he went to japan to visit and share a hotel with...
No.176052
>>176034That's the guy who ran meguca, his name is Lat.
No.176056
>>176037i think he just got catfished and now she won't let him go because he's way out of her league
this sadly happened to me before and it was awful, women are psychos
No.176059
>>176056>3dpdfuck around and find out
anyway this is not r9k thread
No.176065
>>176056No kuso, this is why Maidenless memes are bullshit. Women are way worse when it comes to stalking, and he only made an okcupid on stream as a Joke like 3 years avo
No.176066
>>176052I thought it was Josh?
No.176112
>>176009It might just be me, but there was always a miserable atmosphere in most altchans
No.176143
>>1761124chan was stolen by people with really low IQ so they could post their numbers on /soc/
No.176148
>>176143What's that supposed to mean?
No.176152
>>176112That really depends on why the altchan exists in the first place.
No.176163
>>176112Inherent flaw of a lot of them inviting in people not looking for an alternative or something new, but rather "a place that isn't chan-they-do-not-like"
.
Hard to make a fun community when the only thing uniting people together is that everyone hates 4chan or something.
No.176183
guys we need to stop being miserable RIGHT NOW
No.176184
lainchan is fixed apparently. i can access it on clearnet now.
No.176185
Kissu is a jolly altchan!
No.176195
I think of kissu as a spinoff which I classify differently from an altchan
No.176196
thats a lot of buzzwords just to say imageboard
No.176197
there exist degrees and differentiation within imageboard
No.176198
Not exactly an imageboard, but I think this is the best place to ask. I've noticed that Danbooru is progressively changing collection pools to tags. After digging through their forum I learned that this is concentrated effort due to evazion's (Danbooru's current owner) decision to get rid of collection pools. But I still can't find any post that provided what was the rationale behind this decision. Does anybody here knows? Or at least recall when this topic arose?
No.176203
>>176198idk but pools are kinda janky in shimmie2, which is what i run locally
No.176305
I know that pretty much every imageboard out there owes its existence to 4chan but is there such thing as an imageboard that's mostly if not completely detached from what we call "imageboard culture"?
No.176309
>>176305I think the girl boards are pretty much their own thing.
No.176314
>>176184>lainchanWhat's the deal with that one? It seems pretty much dead to me
No.176321
>>176314people who like the lain "aesthetic" but don't give a kuso about technology
No.176322
>>176314It's the only anon drugs board left. Talking about weed and jenkem was really big in the late 2000s chans.
No.176326
>>176309Yeah they have more in common with KF from what my sister has said. Very gay and boring stuff.
No.176333
>>176305Cy-x/Cyberix Network is not entirely detached from imageboard culture but is pretty much its own thing and the userbase overlaps with other tech related sites.
39chan started as an offshoot of the /jp/ generals but there's a strong overlap with forums like Vocaverse, Utaforum and the now defunct VocaloidOtaku.
A lot of the foreign imageboards like Dollchan, Rozed, Futaba Channel also have their own culture and inside jokes.
No.176334
>>176032speaking of meguca where did they go
No.176335
>>176334One of their members did a mass shooting so they had to shut down
No.176336
>>176335it came back but then it died again and the site went up another some new domain and i can't remember what its called now
No.176338
>>176337its called something that isnt meguca now
No.176339
>>176337I can't remember the url, but it's something with 'shamiko' like shamiko.ooo and I think they had a couple other domains with different characters all pointing to the same site. It still has the rapid-fire blog general format that many imageboard communities collapse into if they're unable to resist entropy.
No.176341
>>176340Seems like it, yeah.
No.176342
>>176340dankudanku thats it
No.176369
how come there aren't more types of discussionboards
imageboards
textboards
php forums
bbs forums
xenforo forums
algorithmic social media
it feels very lacking honestly
No.176370
>>176369What more do you need?
No.176371
>>176369You forgot usenet
No.176373
>>176339>It still has the rapid-fire blog general format that many imageboard communities collapse into if they're unable to resist entropy.With a small number of users this is the only viable format.
No.176375
>>176369End of the day there's only so much "innovation" you can do before it becomes ridiculous or non-topic oriented like masdoon/pleorma.
>how come there aren't more types of discussionboardsThere is Lemmy, but IMO federated aggregators don't really make sense and I struggle to find active instances with their own distinct feel besides being full of reddit types.
No.176415
>>176369>textboardsWhy didn't they take off in the west? I actually rather like the structure of Ayashii, where it's just one big ass thread.
No.176436
>>176369It's more about the rules than the format. You can have an imageboard that bans shitposting, memes and reaction images and it's going to be a completely different experience from the other ones.
No.176438
>>176369there should be a friendboard
No.176453
>>176438we are friends already!
No.176491
Sharty attempts to raid kissu, gives up after 15 minutes. Otaku win again!
No.176496
>>176494How is it that I've never managed to encounter the Kissu captcha
No.176497
>>176496Kissu has captcha?
No.176498
>>176496This captcha is from Wapchan.
No.176503
>>176496I think I've only seen it active during the 2025 hack.
No.176504
>>176496even now, I just lurk or post things occasionally, I never see the captcha
No.176505
>>176491Surprised they didn't try sooner
>>176494LMAO
No.176507
>>176491They're so embarrassed they deleted the thread, rofl
No.176518
>>>176491I'm surprised they even try raiding imageboards at all considering their imageboard raids have been ineffective for years now. They'll spam iFunny tier memes for about 5 minutes, get banned and then fuck off for months.
No.176543
>>176491What time did this happen in?
No.176544
>>176496Literally only see it when I post screenshots from game sessions (as I tend to post like 5 of them in a row)
No.176557
>>176494i'll never forget that tweet i saw where they tried taunting figamin by posting the html source of his captcha
No.176558
Does anybody know if Paperchan shut down? Its been down for like 3 days now. It was an oekaki imageboard where all the posts were drawings instead of text/images and you had a limited color palette.
No.176559
>>176558The link to it was
https://paperchan.club/ but its dead right now
No.176561
>>176559The server is running, probably with the website owner, but the website is crashed
No.176562
crashed or taken down I mean
No.176586
I was browsing catalog.neet.tv by curiosity (it's a mirror of 4chan's catalog, I found it on /g/ guide to cool websites), and there is a strange post that in the catalog that goes by "What the fuck is this?" that links to a thread in bbs.neet.tv with strange posts "I'm [...] -ecker, etc". This catalog thread image is a pic from a thread the current /a/ catalog on 4chan, butbthe content is not the same.
I'm just scared I might have browsed a dead website that got hijacked and is some cookie stealers or javascript fuckery.
Virustotal says the website is clean, but I'm not sure...
No.176589
>>176586neet.tv is a very old site so I'm surprised it's still up. I'm sure it's just sitting there without any maintenance long after people used it, riddled with bugs after 4chan updates changed how stuff works.
What you said might be possible, maybe (I'm not a tech guy), but at the same time I have trouble thinking anyone would bother with such a relic. I'd assume it's just broken because it's a site made for the 4chan software of 15 years ago when it was probably last updated.
No.176592
>>176589Oh, I know it's very old, I was very curious since it was labelled as "original catalog" on the link list.
The post is spammed twice on every thread in bbs.neet.tv and are all timedstamped to today.
It mention a path like UsrPsw/.../ and that they are from
No.176601
>>176586>>176589iirc there are some 4chan archives that do "ghost posting" or something like that, which is basically letting people post on their archived version of the thread. so you get two versions of the same thread, one real and one on the archive. i might remember wrongly though.
also ecker is the guy that posts pics of his benis on his steam deck and has a website to let people post on 4chan with proxies
No.176607
>>176586neet.tv just scrapes 4chan's catalog. I saw that same post on /a/.
The -ecker guy is a spammer from an old general that got banned from /g/ for embedding illegal material in images and started his own imageboard dedicated to raiding 4chan.
He probably posted that on the textboard section of neet.tv because it's barely moderated and then linked it on 4chan to taunt its staff. He's not the person who runs neet.tv, and that site is primitive enough that there's not much he could do to hijack your browser.
No.176608
>>176607Okay, so I was just browsing it at the same time this happened, hehe
Found the thread
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/287697012/#q287697012 No.176609
>>176608But what if my visit to the website triggered it?
No.176612
>>176607>He probably posted that on the textboard section of neet.tv because it's barely moderated and then linked it on 4chan to taunt its staff.i think he's tauting the server admin and probably sole programmer specifically. looking at last year hack logs, desuwa is the only committer on their 4chan git repo for the past 15 years, and is the admin account on their freebsd server that shut it down.
No.176683
>>176586>>176612it's just the /cumg/ people acting like they're invincible, which is why they have to post on a dead board instead of 4chan itself obviously
No.176698
>>176586catalog.neet.tv predates 4chan's native catalog. It was made by desuwa who joined 4chan and made the native catalog and native extension.
No.176807
>>176806Yeah, unfortunately every site needs to set up protection against such things as every force in the universe unites to push people towards the corporate mega sites like twitter or discord.
Shout out once again to mods on 4chan for birthing and nurturing this destructive force that seeks to eliminate all anonymous discussion online.
No.176808
>>176806I can't remember the name, but another similar kind of oekaki site met an end like this. It's sad, I like these kinds of sites.
No.176812
>>176806Not surprised sadly. These people are the internet equivalent to parasites. They went after an indie art website a few weeks ago causing it to go down for like two weeks before it returned.
No.176813
>>176806Did swinyfail really lose??? My nigga swiny can't catch a break
No.176819
>>176806Site's back online with all the spam deleted
No.176820
>>176819People are spamming it again...
No.176821
such sites should work on schedules like /tea/
No.176829
So...does no one at all really know what happened to 22chan? I'd have at least expected some refugees posting here, but maybe it was just a ghost board past its era that decided to pull the plug
No.176831
>>176821/tea/ works because that's the site's gimmick but on any other imageboard it's a terrible idea.
No.176832
>>176815Idk I was just being silly
No.176846
>>174370here
>>176829no idea but there will be nothing like it ever again
No.176870
>>176829There was a post on the allchans page for 22chan about it coming back again.
No.176871
>>176870It's probably unofficial. I don't know why people feel the need to revive things from the old internet days. They all make attempts at doing do and the end result always turns out to be disappointing. You have to accept that the majority of the old web will never come back because the people that made them what they are are no longer around. The people leading them today have NO idea what those places were like and insist on bringing their current internet kuso along with them. Sad.
No.176872
>>17687122han isn't a nostalgafag website though...
No.176875
>>176871not the same river not the same man yeah
we really need to be forward looking and build future instead of dwelling in the past
No.176882
4chon is kill
No.176883
>>176882Huh it had a /qa/ page? Think I vaguely remember the name but where did it start from?
No.176894
>>176871Like the other anon said (
>>176872), I never understood why people thought it was suppose to be a nostalgiafag website.
It's clearly there to continue a culture, where there was netiquette and a website ruled by, and for the otakus, with a proper variety of threads that aren't just spamming the same thing but in a different thread or slightly different context (ex. 4chan's /jp/ with the thread dedicated to their Touhou character or VTuber of choice); contrast that with 4chan and you cannot discern it from Reddit/Twitter/Discord (highly likely due to mainstream reporting on the website and a ton of shorts and video essays over the infamy of the site).
There's no concerted effort to de-homogenize the internet.
No.176895
>>176894Did I visit a different incarnation? Because the few times I stopped by 22chan, it looked like an 18 year old's impression of what they imagined early 4chan culture must have looked like, as divined from selective archive snapshots and 7chan past its prime. What I saw didn't look like an otaku site at all.
Did the domain change owners at some point?
No.176897
>>176895There was a lot of information, mainly from people obsessed with history and deconstructing what made old phenomenon special. It helped to learn what made it what it was, and then take lessons from that to carry onto the future, especially for archival and education purposes. This was on the 3.0 incarnation of the site, by the way. It likely was far different in 1.0 and 2.0, but I wasn't there to experience that.
No.176919
>>176883The one you probably remember is STI's 4chon, from a long time ago. I doubt the one that just died had anything to do with it.
No.176920
>>176895>Did the domain change owners at some point?Yeah the first owner was a German dude. I remember he was super reckless and easy to doxx, I know because I was bored one day and it took me 10 minutes to find his real name and face. I'm not malicious so of course I just forgot about it. Years later the owner steps back and someone else takes his place, that's maybe the otaku 22chan that guy is talking about.
No.177037
>>176895>>176894>What I saw didn't look like an otaku site at all.Neither was old 4chan doe.
Old 4chan was dominated by content creators and draw artists idling on the off-topic boards. Hobbyists and Otakus at the time where a minority. A welcome one that populated the slowest boards, but a minority in the end.
You have to see /b/ implode and /a/+/co/+/tg/ rise to prominence for hobby people to start dominating. Then /v/ more or less ate the site.
No.177112
>>176871>The people leading them today have NO idea what those places were like and insist on bringing their current internet kuso along with them. Sad.It's even worse, if you could bring back all the exact people who made up all these old websites in the past it would never feel the same because they changed as individuals. Ever had that one friend who dropped out of your mutual interests one day, years pass, he comes back all employed, adult and married? Yeah.
No.177185
>>17630539chan seems to be big within its niche and some of the users there have never used 4chan. But its culture and some of the lingo they use does have /jp/ roots, and after the 4chan hack there's been more overlap in 39 and /jp/ users.
No.177188
>>176305I'd have figured Ylilauta was still relatively divorced from 4chan culture, really any non english imageboard in general
No.177189
Ylilauta is something that needs to be done in the west. Anonymous social media site with registration. It could work.
No.177206
why did the last post get deleted...?
No.177208
>>177206Only the poster himself could tell you since he's the one that deleted it.
No.177215
>>177188> really any non english imageboard in generalThere's some IB international families that have 0 relationship to 4chan, but that's a post 2020 thing.
All the old ones, ylilauta included, had their posting culture start as more or less a copy of 00s /b/. Spurdo Spadre was literally kuvalauta oldfags having a meltie over a bunch of newbies flocking to their site.
No.177216
honestly, why talk with a web forum when you could be talking with an AI avatar on Discord
No.177218
>>177189I have been thinking about this for ages. An anonymous social media site with agressive monetization. If only I knew how to put such a place together.
No.177220
>>177216you can't recreate something like kissu with an AI chat, since we don't just do 1:1 conversation, many threads are about actively participating and/or creating, we have the streams, game servers threads etc.
what you can recreate is that single online dude you never saw, you continue to chat with and have no intention of ever meeting in real life or do something with together that's not just chatting.
>>177189gatekept communities with paid registration existed since the usenet days and they still do exist (they're mostly over 40 yr old people now), as for the anonymous part, well your nick used to be someone else unrelated to yourself, in fact sharing your real name or info was frowned upon.
by the way, no one liked when ylilauta became a paid service. i don't really see a point in anonymous paid IBs when no one has recognition of you in the community and you lose absolutely nothing compared to a new user if they revoke your pass after years of posting.
No.177222
>>177220>you continue to chat with and have no intention of ever meeting in real life or do something with together that's not just chatting.To be fair that is most of the interaction anyway (apart from those threads that you've mentioned but it's not like they are a particularly big part considering that most don't attend).
And it's not like it's common for people from imageboards to meetup IRL anyway.
No.177230
Owner of Wapchan will be at Mikuexpo apparently
No.177231
Owner of Wapchan will be at his toilet apparently
No.177232
>>177220>sharing your real name or info was frowned upon.I'll never understand how this went from being basic internet etiquette to being basically non existent in today's internet. Hell, that was kinda the point of Nicknames/Usernames in the first place, to have an identity not linked to your real life one.
No.177241
>>177232i can't even fault smartphones or facebook because myspace was a thing before that (even though they greatly exaggerated the issue). i guess the newer generation of teens that grew up in the late 90s and early 2000s saw the internet as mainly a social thing linked to real life while the earlier generations mainly got in for work/study, were into IT or programming to an extent and had a different conception of it. they were surely another kind of folk.
i'm not sure though. i'm really curious about what you guys think, maybe there's someone older who knows better.
No.177242
>>177241My guess is because of Facebook. It targeted old people that would willingly buy into its convention of using your real name on your profile. I don't think most people used their real name on Myspace.
No.177243
>>177232Companies like Facebook and Google found out that there was money in collecting as much data as possible as possible from you, in a moment when many people with no tech background were using internet for the first time. The people who knew about the risks of exposing your date on internet were shunned as weirdos by the new generation of clueless normies that believed sharing everything was perfectly safe.
And now we find ourselves of the final stage of all this: The aggressive push to legally kill your right to be anonymous: Enforced age verification, mandatory use of your real name... Except that this time the governments, rather than big tech, are behind it. And now facial recognition and smartglasses everywhere. No privacy on internet, no privacy IRL.
No.177244
>>177243>picrelit's funny how youtube actually put a disclaimer on accounts telling people NOT to put personal name or any personal info in the channel before this happened
No.177245
>>177244There was one TV programme that was like one of those hidden camera pranks. A guy is offered a session by a psychic and the phony guy, after pondering the crystal ball tells the guy all of his past, what he ate, who he's married to...
>"How the fuck did you do that?">A curtain is pulled and a screen shows his facebook profileIf I remember correctly, the facebook profiles would even ask you to write every important event in your life, which relationship you had to people... Then, remember when other people would upload group photos and tag you without your consent, get angry when you told them that was not ok and start spouting self justifying preachy kuso they got out of their arse to paint you as an evil antisocial bad guy?
And that's why I never appear on group photos unless I own the (film) camera. Those ones go directly to my physical photo album, never to internet.
I miss wearing a facemask during the covid. Not to not get sick, but for the increased sense of privacy.
No.177250
>>177241this is not a generation thing this is a web business thing
if you can find your friends by their irl names on websites then you can attract more users more ads served more money and so on that was the bussness proposition of all these facebooks and their clones rest is a slippery slope
No.177253
>>177243From what I have read, its facebook and google pushing governments and other services to do id verification so they can consolidate the identity profiles of the user without having to do costly profiling and estimations, rather they can guarentee its you with less work. This makes it easier for them to do targeted ads and whatnot, making easier to model your behavior patterns and lead you to purchasing and behaving the way they want you to.
No.177255
>>177244Steam used to do something like this as well before they updated the chat
No.177256
>>177242Facebook didn't specifically target old people. I remember having friends my age who made their accounts there around 2010-2011.
The reason it became a retirement home is because most millennials and old gen z moved to other SNS like Instagram and Twitter.
No.177257
>>177256Also it depends on the country.
IMC most Kohais still use Facebook.
No.177262
>>177230going to seduce my way into imageboard adminship
wish me luck!
No.177267
>>177257Where I live its mostly used by senpais, gen x and a minority of millennials (its mostly the older millennials that stuck around, younger ones are on IG/TWT)
No.177288
>>177252Does that Lum meme originate from there? I've been seeing it more and more on other imageboards. Feels a bit like 'jaks but less repulsive to look at.
No.177289
>>177288It does. I think it was made to replace generic pepe images.
No.177299
>>177288>>177289>>177297Mmmm. I recognize that angle, this is a descendant of Glegle.
Made during weird days in r9k where a bunch of drawfags got together and got the idea of replacing pepe on their heads
They made a handful of mascots that got varying levels of creativity. GleGle being female was, naturally, the only one that took off.
extended lore says that apparently a kind-of-liberal (their words not mine) discord circlejerk adopted glegle or even came up with her for said "pepe replacement project", then they made a gazillion variants and somehow convinced /bant/ to induct her into their mascot repertoire. That circlejerk moved off-site where they made a bant-leaning glegle imageboard with some nice looking, alternative design (died a few years ago). The circlejerk disappeared but /bant/ and /trash/ still gleglepost to this day.
Seems that somewhere in the path Glegle was found herself in the far east and got /jp/ified.
No.177305
>>177299The Lum isn't based on Glegle tho it comes from a panel in the manga.
No.177307
>>177189Finland isn't the "West"?
anyways, ylilauta is owned by gambling sites in monaco
No.177312
>>177305post it pls
now i'm curious if Gle may have been inspired from there too
No.177341
>>177314Mmmm can't say I see a Gle relation
Well the mystery of that pic shall continue.
Tangentially related: Does wapchan (and related IBs) here have boorus?
No.177342
>>177341There's
https://qa.booru.org/ that's tangentially related to kissu but it doesn't really get uploads anymore.
No.177343
>>177341Wapchan had a Rumiko Takahashi wiki but it got spammed by bots, the "buy our chinese sex courses" type bots not soyteens. But it never had a booru.
Uboachan has had two boorus. http://yume.booru.org/ being the old one and
https://yumeboo.ru/ being the current one.
No.177346
>>177342were are we saving the kissu OC thread stuff then?
No.177347
>>177342You can't register new accounts on it either.
(pic is the first upload)
No.177348
>>177347That's not the booru creator's fault, it's the booru project's. See
>>>/maho/6935 No.177358
>>177341¥Mmmm can't say I see a Gle relationWhat? Its...right there, in the bottom left corner. Its the same face and hair and art and everything. Was this satire?
No.177414
>>177307By west I meant a site in english.
No.177491
>>177299>a bant-leaning glegle imageboard with some nice looking, alternative design (died a few years ago)What, libpol? I think that still exists.
No.177493
39chan stickied a tribute to EZFG who died of cancer on /leek/. Did any other imageboard get an EZFG sticky?.
No.177494
>>177493I'd need to know his hits first
No.177495
>>177494"Hurting for a Very Hurtful Pain" was his most popular song, but the guy was very influential in his community and even collaborated with Utaites such as REOL.
No.177605
>>176321It has three (four) entire boards dedicated to technology, this is a nonsensical assertion
No.177606
>>177346Mods are hard at work getting the kissu archive up and running, please wait warmly.
No.177612
>>177605i think anon is referring to the pinterest/tiktok women that cosplay lain and have lain pfp's because muh aesthetic and never watched the show
No.177618
U.S.A.G.I., formerly known as The Uboachan / Sushichan Associated Gamejam Initiative, is announcing a new season of it's USAGI Game Jam! This year, we are inviting you alongside a few other
comfy boards to partake in a celebration on everything creative.
From
June 29th to [b]23:59 August 23th GMT[b], work alone, grab your friends, or recruit other fellow anons to show us your dreams and visions in a videogame form.
Visit
https://sushigirl.cafe/usagi to learn more!
PS: AI slop is not allowed, read the rules before submitting.
No.177748
>>177299glegle has no relation to unelum. It is heavily inspired by pepe and pepe related humor.
>GleGle being female was, naturally, the only one that took off.glegle is non-binary, this was even stated by the creator of the meme themselves.
>Made during weird days in r9k where a bunch of drawfags got together and got the idea of replacing pepe on their headsIt was created only by one dude. Most of the variations that you see of glegle come from one thread (all of which were made by the same guy in question).
Link to the first EVER appearance of glegle:
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/66070596/#66070596Very early glegle posts (days after it was posted on /r9k/).
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/glegle/type/op/order/asc/Its source is really easy to find since it was forced upon users on its first day.
No.177749
>>177748>glegle is non-binaryLet's not bring gender-niggerty into this, it looks like a woman, for all intent and purposes its drawn like a woman, so it's fair to assume that it is a woman.
No.177750
>>177749Don't shoot the messenger, the guy who created it intended it to be that way (which is why it's only ever posted on /lgbt/ and libpol lmfao) Lum is the first TRUE female meme.
No.177753
>>177750>Lum is the first TRUE female meme.Well, not the first at all. I don't know why I even worded that.
>>177752I could honestly care less.
No.177754
>>177753>I could honestly care lessThis makes me wonder what made you care to a degree that you were capable of caring less than your current non-insubstantial level of caring, but I didnt even see the post that made you care so moderately!
No.177918
Did you all see the new feature gnfosmin added to his site? Kissmin should copy it
No.177919
>>177918why does it take so long for the votes to apply?
No.177927
What the heck why hikari3 is down.
No.177928
>>177494Cyber Thunder Cider
No.177932
>>177493damnit
why do the cool ones have to be the unhealthy ones
No.177933
>>177314The original definitely betrays the latter derivative meme ugliness.
No.177949
>>177918as much as i hate reddit and upvotes i actually like that i can just glance to see which posts might be worth reading
it also says a lot that 95% of the posts on there are heavily downvoted, when you enable the option to hide kuso posters almost the entire board disappears
No.177953
>>177949Reddit is absolutely trash, just search any thread with the OP asking for help and the top 3 comments will be
¥hurr durrr <insert ironic condescending faggotry>¥how about you do this completely unrelated thing instead¥HOW DARE YOU ASK FOR HELP (btw the rules say this is a "serious sub")Whenever I do find helpful comments I look at the date and they're all 13 year old posts, I wonder why...
No.177958
>>177953the tree structure of reddit is its biggest flaw along with the upvotes imo
No.177959
>>177953this and also
¥ [Deleted]¥Kute Kissu Kawaii Kurwa Killer Kunt - This post was removed with Redacted. No.177962
>>177953Somehow not reading the Wiki is like a grave offense to them. If you want a dead subreddit just say so.
No.177963
>>177953A couple years back, I asked Reddit a question regarding an earlier version of a game that I had interest in.
The game was basically the retail CD/pre-steam version of Half-Life (titled Half-Life WON) that received support from the modding community until the mid-late 2000s when modders dropped it for the constantly-changing steam version.
My question to the half life "fans" on Reddit was that I wanted to know "where I could find mods for Half-Life WON", basically asking for sources that host them. No answers, thread gets downvoted, and I get two people thinking that I'm stupid for running an older version of the game. I was left without an answer from this so-called Half-Life fandom. I browse the subreddit, and majority of content on there were mostly just low-quality memes that were re-hashed over a million times and also lots of gay furry art.
Deleted my account and never came back.
No.177964
>>177963This is similar to my experience. I made a single post trying to rally people in my city to push for a few small changes to things we already do. For example we close down a street downtown during summer and put tables and chairs and such so people have more outdoors space. I just wanted to extend this to earlier and later in the year.
Anyways every reply was essentially people saying my ideas were stupid, everything is good as is, and changing anything is ill-advised.
I was baffled.
No.177965
>>177949>as much as i hate reddit and upvotes i actually like that i can just glance to see which posts might be worth readingyet it's not even half as useful as it could be, because controversial posts are hidden behind a ratio. eg -98+100 and -0+2 are both displayed as +2
No.178026
>>177953The fact you give ephemeral vagueposts about your gripes with
some threads on there don't really give me the most good faith interpretation of the point you're making here, even if its agreeable in some way.
On the other hand though, people should probably be ribbed a little more often for asking dumb questions tbhdesu, I can recall too many scenarios where people ask the exact same redundant question that hundreds of people have asked prior on the exact same subreddit, you've got to encourage critical thinking *some* way
>>177958Honestly, tree vs <i can't remember the name for bulletin boards> style of comments does make me appreciate the latter a lot more, since its more likely to make people take into account the entire thread. Conversely it is nice to have people sequester their beef into their own little silos that you can be allowed to ignore, every post reflecting on the entire thread is both a positive and a negative.
Upvotes are more along the lines of just being completely objectively terrible. Possibly the worst social media invention in my opinion.
No.178043
>>178026>good faithMy "faith" has been long dead.
No.178045
>>177953I often see people recommending others to join the reddit's discord for answers and help rather than just answering the question.
No.178050
>>178026><i can't remember the name for bulletin boards> style of commentsThreaded
No.178092
>>177748Correct and factual, but its missing later years' context. But tha's besides what I was thinking of when I wrote the posts
The point i'm trying to make is that this... "neutral expression on a 3/4s angle" archetype is an aesthetic very unique to 4chan, and I felt like there's a genealogy of remixing to trace, ergo my now disproven glegle-unelum's relation hypothesis.
No.178095
>>177297Honestly feels like the Lum meme is bigger than Wapchan itself sometimes
No.178127
>>176807This is genuinely not a rhetorically question, but does anyone know why they can't see the irony? They too also seem to be able to grasp the corporate greed and the Internet being overrun by bots and thirdies, yet deliberately act in a way that discourages anyone from starting something new that diverts away from that.
No.178152
>>178127They're like 12 years old so probably not
No.178169
>>178092You're not completely wrong on that. That angle is very very apparent.
No.178172
>>178127I have a conspiracy theory regarding this but I don't think it belongs on this board
>>178170Probably all the schizo spam they've had to deal with lately, i don't blame them
No.178176
>>176870Allchans already marked it as dead...
I wonder where 22chbros went
No.178185
Is 22chan actually confirmed dead
No.178194
>>178176>>178177>>178179Remarkably, the entire user base is present... all 3 of them!
>>178185at this point it's probably hopeless that it will come back in the same state as when it went down so might as well be. we should open a refugee thread here and freeload for a while
No.178196
>>178194That sucks. I'm glad it was at least partially archived over the years even if its not the entire site.
No.178201
>>178194>all 3 of them!Count me in too! There's
four of us now!
No.178202
>>178200it was kacey tier
No.178212
>>178172>I have a conspiracy theory regarding thisPlease do share. I'm curious to hear it, even if it sounds somewhat outlandish.
No.178213
>>178200it will come back and it will be even worse than before
No.178232
>>178231I hope their culture dies.
No.178235
>>178232Doubtful (honestly on both fronts, the current admin could probably keep it going for 5+ more years since in his own words it "costs nothing" to run, but also people hate him for being a furry sympathizer or something stupid so idk), it's already splintered and formed imageboard spheres of its own (notably shown in some older posts in here that I assume are credited to them like with some of the comments in response to
>>176806, from the image it was actually done by some other popular splinter of theirs), in the event of actual site death people would just move to the alternatives/spin up a new one (or scarier: go back to posting on actual non-soysphere imageboards)
>>178127There's a difference between knowing something and caring about it. Its not so surprising to see a community steeped completely in irony not care about those things.
No.178240
>>178235So many of them already don't make it past a month but then another one pops up and the cycle ends up repeating itself. But yeah even if the main site dies I think soyspheres are here to stay for a couple more years.
As for the "culture", I'd argue its on life support. It has already been stolen and adopted by social media normies on Twitter and TikTok (Hell, even the White House of all things has reposted Soy memes before). And their influence has arguably diminished over the years, especially after the 4chan hack. They no longer pull off successful raids anymore and at best they might post a couple spammy images before getting b& or leaving like they sometimes do here. They quite literally failed to take down WapChan and ended up getting humiliated by Twitter of all places.
They used to be worse, way worse. Nowadays they're just the internet equivalent to cockroaches.
No.178241
>>178232Same.
>>178235What I gleaned from one of the wikis posted in the [s4s] thread, the plan is to shut down the sharty and turn the booru website into some social media thing.
>>178240>ended up getting humiliated by Twitter of all places.qrd?
No.178242
>>178240¥It has already been stolen and adopted by social media normies on Twitter and TikTok (Hell, even the White House of all things has reposted Soy memes before).See, I agree with your assessment here, but I don't understand how this would be evidence of their "culture" dying. This is more so a normalization of all of it no? All of these disassociated people on twitter and the like similarly spreading these memes and their attached rhetoric is their ideal scenario, where they become so commonplace that a site that is persona non-grata to them (this one as an example) is seen as a cultural oddity instead of normalcy.
I say this in part because I believe the "culture" that is spoken of is more so an increasingly exhibited human condition/trait that you can find elsewhere, that being a high level of revulsion regarding sincerity and maintaining a continuous veil of detached irony when dealing with it (usually negatively). With both of those things continuing to be prevalent across the internet I don't believe that the conditions that bring about such behaviour will go away or die, people will just spread it on other websites and make it a defacto way of thinking (in such a hypothetical scenario anyway). I could say more but I suppose these ideas are a bit out of scope of the thread now.
No.178243
>>178241>qrd?It's been discussed to death here but basically Sharty tried to raid Wapchan and they struggled to get past the anime captcha, then figamin (owner of Wapchan) made a tweet about it that got a lot of attention. I believe they tried to dox him for this but i don't know if they were successful in doing so. And if they did then it doesn't seem like it affected him at all. After that he made the captcha harder and implemented Anubis on both Wapchan and 39chan (which figamin doesn't actually own but is associated with).
>turn the booru website into some social media thingWhat?
No.178245
>>178242NTA but
>This is more so a normalization of all of it no?This is exactly why it will die, the same way ragecomics died after it became really popular around 2014
Also, no meme lasts forever, something else will eventually replace soyjacks and wojacks, whatever it will be, I just hope to god it is not as abominable as them.
No.178246
>>178242>I don't understand how this would be evidence of their "culture" dying. This is more so a normalization of all of it no? All of these disassociated people on twitter and the like similarly spreading these memes and their attached rhetoric is their ideal scenario, where they become so commonplace that a site that is persona non-grata to them (this one as an example) is seen as a cultural oddity instead of normalcy.The core soysphere doesn't want popularity, it's what older subcultures would call "selling out" to them; soyspeak is intentionally made to look like deranged babble to outsiders. The irony is those that push it so aggressively in other spaces only kill it faster.
No.178248
>>178247Huh, that was one of the most prominent international boards I knew of, wonder where people go now.
No.178249
>>178248>wonder where people go now4chan /int/ is still very active with 25k PPD but i doubt that the average kc poster is willing to put up with forced email verification and all of the bots there
krautchan/orgchan is where people have been fleeing to for a while now due to the sheer amount of 3dpd pedo spam that kc staff ignored/enabled for the purpose of upholding freeze peach and i suspect that said pedos will just migrate to 8moe now that kc is gone
No.178250
>>178235>go back to posting on actual non-soysphere imageboardsThat would end up with them being witch hunted
No.178251
>>178250Good, they deserve to be driven out like rats.
No.178252
>>178251I wish they make that mistake.
No.178253
in other news, anthro.foo (a sharty-adjacent furry imageboard) has "shut down" (changed ownership and will point to a new domain)
https://anthro.foo/anthro/thread/115377.html>Today is that day, and I wish I had more to say but I'm really busy. I'm locking the website until me and the new admin get together and make things happen.>The new domain is https://anthro.boo and is meant to be a perfect sync of Anfoo, although me and the nu admin are very busy atm so it fell behind. Any posts there will be overwritten with one last sync from here tonight and I will have this domain point there. No.178254
>>178253>sharty-adjacent furry imageboardWait, that exists?
No.178255
>>178253That just looks like a regular furry imageboard
No.178256
>>178253The usets are too civilized and the comments are too legible for this to be a sharty-related website.
No.178257
>>178254>>178255>>178256it and it's safe-for-work counterpart averi.foo both spawned as a result of the sharty's unofficial furry board /bp/ being deleted in 2025
averi.foo leans much more heavily into soyjak culture while anthro.foo mainly focused on /trash/ hmofa (human males on female anthros) culture
both are awful, just in different ways. there aren't any active furry image boards out there unless you want to put up with either of those two types of posters
No.178258
Considering just how underage and irony poisoned the average sharteen is, I wonder how many of them are going to regret being part of it once they become adults.
No.178259
>>178257There's flyingdog but it's a bit obscure and doesn't seem to get much activity. I also don't know if there's any relation between it and the ones you mentioned.
No.178260
>>178258yet another wave of something awful-esque regret
No.178261
>>178260You mean lowtaxing themselves or being incredibly faggoty?
No.178262
>>178232its already dead. the original admin was a cringelord weirdo but at least he did it for the love of making OC.
today its a bunch of discord circlejerks puppetting the corpse of the original community around.
>>178235The bigger problem is that the admin is edgesphere-adjacent and the bullshit of that subculture permeates every facet of the community.
he's not a complete psychopath but everyone else in his circle is. the recent leaks showed that Quote's supposed best friend, the dev that wrote their integrity tool was part of some schizo discord group that hanged out in gamin circles doxing little kids for years. And they apparently were also friends with one of the most famous Space Station 13 griefers in history? Just what the fuck.
Quote can't shake the secret cabal mindset, and even if he tried, he'd be dragged right back in because literally every person who is someone in that scene seems to be from this or that cabal and spends their freetime falseflagging csam spam in some gay fucking war with another cabal.
Even if Quote wanted he can't fucking fix the thing. Eventually, one of these cabals is gonna do him in and that will be it. What a cursed fucking site.
>>178242>that being a high level of revulsion regarding sincerity and maintaining a continuous veil of detached irony when dealing with it (usually negatively).I call them "digital street urchins"
>>178258They have nothing to lose for it. What is a kid who lived in poverty all his life and only has a smartphone to their name going to care what the world thinks of him once they enter unskilled work hell?
There's an actual correlation between poverty & bad households and being involved in these groups.
>>178249>will just migrate to 8moe now that kc is gonegod fucking dammit
No.178263
>>178243>It's been discussed to death here but basically Sharty tried to raid Wapchan and they struggled to get past the anime captcha, then figamin (owner of Wapchan) made a tweet about it that got a lot of attention. I believe they tried to dox him for this but i don't know if they were successful in doing so. And if they did then it doesn't seem like it affected him at all. After that he made the captcha harder and implemented Anubis on both Wapchan and 39chan (which figamin doesn't actually own but is associated with).LMAO
>What?According to the leaker the sharty admins want to shut down the imageboard and turn the booru into some ifunny clone.
¥sourceKiwifarms thread iirc, but I have no interest in linking or visiting (info was posted to a wiki that is down right now).
>>178245Imo I think we're in the end of a unified meme culture because the internet is slowly decentralizing again.
No.178264
>>178263>because the internet is slowly decentralizing againhopium...
No.178265
>>178264I wouldn't necessarily say it's decentralizing again.
>>178170Back online now
No.178267
39chan is back up and has a sticky announcing some new changes. They mention they got spammed on other sites but all I've seen is just the one thread that popped up on Kissu and Desu/meta/ and a few other places. They also adjusted the CAPTCHA to add a noise filter.
No.178271
Does anyone have any idea what happened to pro?
I used to go there every once in a blue moon, but the site doesn't seem to work anymore.
No.178272
>>178271He probably killed it. All the generic pages redirect to what's essentially a "site's closed" page
No.178279
This is an odd question, and I'm sorry to introduce an unrelated topic into a thread in which specific conversations are already occurring… but does anybody know where the remainder of /intl/ and /int*/ now congregate? I remember occasionally checking freech and goonsaloon back in the day. Are they completely dispersed and dead or is there somewhere they might be?
No.178285
>>178264Key word is
slow.
No.178295
>>178279Dispersed afaik. As soon as they tried migrating bui or whoever killed any site they moved to, that is, if the host site did not implode in incredibly stupid pre-2019 altchan vs altchan war. Maybe you can find a veteran in some GG-era irc or discord.
No.178306
>>178295Hmm.
Has anybody bothered to write up a history or at least chronological record of the alt-chans and their interactions? Bibliotheca Anonoma as barely anything even on 8chan, so I have to assume they don't have much on splinter sites.
No.178307
>>178306Have you checked nameless rumia wiki?
No.178308
>>178307>>178306I'm probably the guy who knows the most out of the English IB history and there's still a fuckload of microscenes that escape me. only reason 4chan is as well researched as it is today is the archives.
As for mid 10s 8chansphere - people remember endchan and freech but there were something like 20 other Infinity spinoffs that lasted a few months on average, and spam was frequent. i don't have it on me i've got the bookmark somewhere, there's a couple sites that are still on wayback. what I remember is the high frequency of conspiracy delusions among admins.
No.178309
>>178308Semi unrelated but didn't the original 8chan have an archive back in the day? I stopped using it circa 2018 but I swear I remember it having some sort of archive
No.178312
>>178279>>178306You might get more info from archives.
https://archive.is/32ch.orghttps://archive.is/goonsaloon.prohttps://archive.is/goonsaloon.comDefinitely not a comprehensive list. And archives of freech.net are unavailable due to "a request we received from 'DNPJ OFAC IRU L’Office Anti-Cybercriminalité (OFAC) dnpj-ofac-iru@interieu
r.gouv.fr '".
https://gitgud.io/archiver/has archived threads (text only) from Maki's 64chan when it received a substantial migration of /intl/ users (archive) and from the brief-lived goonsaloon.com (archive2).
No.178313
>>178307Bit disappointed that a lot of "newer" ones are excluded. Kissu isn't there but the MS Paint Anthony Fantano site is.
No.178324
>>178309>I stopped using it circa 2018 but I swear I remember it having some sort of archiveYeah there was. Can't remember the domain either. It had 8/b/ and I THINK 8/pol/. It must have died this or last year as I came across it again by accident early 2025 and I can't find it on google.
After tarrant or buffalo they tried to "hide" it by rewriting the html like it was some sort of social media comment section and changed all anon names to generic names, so it was almost impossible to browse.
No.178336
>>178324That reminds me of how back in the day there was a site that stole 4chan threads and replaced every instance of the word "4chan" with something like "roflforums" (not the exact name).
Either way, trying to make 8chan look like social media isn't really going to do much. It's like trying to put a pink bow on a turd. It's still going to be a turd at the end of the day. I don't know that the point of doing that is.
No.178337
>>178336I thought those kind of sites were trying to get Google Ads money by setting up fake sites that looked active
No.178338
>>178336sheekyforums
>>178337most likely
No.178339
>>178338I'm surprised it still exists. You can't view threads anymore though.
No.178340
>>178338RIP
wonder if we can contact the host and convince him to post his dumps in an archive
No.178345
>>178336Ah, there were a few of those 4chan scrappers, basically for duping advertisers into thinking these were active forums.
>>178338and Veekyforums!
No.178346
>>178308to this day a lot of altchan admins think the CP spam is the government trying to shut them down and not just some low life scumbag in russia trying to make easy money, idgi
No.178349
>>178346How does spamming CP on imageboards make anyone money?
No.178351
>>178349Well they often come with links to sites that I assume offer more content for money.
No.178354
>>178351This is illegal you know.
No.178355
>>178354CP was illegal this whole time and nobody told me??
No.178356
>>178346Conspiracies that have vague motives are much funner than greed
No.178357
>>178346Overwhelming smaller sites with illegal material is an effective method of disrupting them. It's possible it really is just a bunch of assholes trying to make a quick buck illegally, but it overwhelmingly being CP looks like being a nuisance to the site owners is the goal. Where are the ads for hard drugs and paid assassins?
No.178366
>>178357What would they even gain from bothering imageboard owners anyway? especially when they've been doing this for decades?. Not to mention that those bots are easy to beat anyway. Last i heard from the Sharty they had implemented a method where the mods have to manually approve images if they get flagged as NSFW. And Wapchan has proven that they bruteforce captchas, so they can't bypass captchas as specific as theirs where you have to name the anime girl.
No.178367
>>178366>What would they even gain from bothering imageboard owners anyway?Internet consolidation. It's easier to control several large sites than a lot of small ones, so there is an incentive in making running a small site a pain in the ass.
Similarly, I don't think there actually was a conspiracy behind it, but it was pretty convenient that a couple years ago when it came to dealing with DDoS attacks, your only options were Cloudflare or praying you don't draw ire of some random script kiddy.
No.178368
>>178366>What would they even gain from bothering imageboard owners anyway?in addition to the post above me, you severely underestimate how attention-starved certain internet individuals can be. CP is far more disruptive and causes much more of an uproar than any other type of illegal content, thus causing the poster to get much more attention both from supporters and detractors than they would if they posted about hitman services and the like. the only way to win is to starve them of any attention, which requires both a competent moderation team and user base of which next to no sites possess
No.178382
>>178346American thing, it's cultural/religious thing about conspiracies.
There was a video about city guys going to the boonies in the appalachians to interview local hillbillies, and one goes off on a literal thesis where he mixes up the Reptilian sci fi meme with the biblical Nephalim and how they are actually demons in disguise manipulating the powerful as evil spirits.
https://youtu.be/NavFgWpn8tE?t=1414An extreme but it portraits how there's a big subset of the US that has magical, almost superstitious ideas of what the government can do. Like in their eyes the US govt is a trickster spirit that's behind every single inconvenience no matter how nonsensical or impractical it would be for the fed.
A bunch of people like this ended up congregating in 8chan over the culture war and a good chunk of them became obsessed with freedom of speech and tried hosting their own "precure free" 8ch
Now put yourself in the shoes of a schizo freak who just realized they can drop shock content on that other schizo freak's site and they'd go off on a rant about government ops. Irresistible troll bait. And this on top of the well researched slavic csam commercial spam phenomenon
No.178383
Chinese girl thread status here?
No.178384
>>178383There was an attempt a little while back on /jp/. It got locked pretty quickly because it went a bit too far off the rails (even for Chinese girl thread standards) and has since fallen off.
No.178386
>>178384That was me. Sorry about that
No.178389
>>178357>Where are the ads for hard drugs and paid assassins?You see that sort of spam on Tor imageboards.
No.178405
>>178263>the internet is slowly decentralizing againMeh, I'm seeing the contrary, every groups are meeting each other through algorithm timeline. Especially now that everyone is on either twitter, insta or tiktok. The only decentralisation is from discord.
There were might have had a mainstream culture a decade ago, but everyone had their bubble. Whatever is popular in this decade, was a tiny sub group in the 2010's.
No.178427
>>178349the links they post are mostly ad links. you get paid when people watch the ads. that's all it is. apparently when you do get to the "content", it's always on these really sketchy file hosts that want you to pay for a premium subscription to download so they're likely in on it too.
No.178436
>>178405That's decentralization by algo threads. Your bubble is not my bubble, and I won't access yours easily without an account curated in your way.
No.178459
>>178436Everyone were on their bubble without algorithms. No one had the same use of the Internet 15-10 years ago. There were no general timeline, you had to search everything by yourself. The only change now is that everything is served at you on a silver plate.
Why do so much people think that 2010's Internet was a monolith? Globalisation and bubble mixing is more common now than it ever was.
No.178554
>>178389Bit of a weird question since I don't use TOR but how often do those imageboards get CSEM spam compared to clearweb sites? I assume that since they're not accessible through normal means and not on a public listing like AllChans or Imageboards.net means they don't get it too often?.
No.178562
>>178554Commercial child porn spam is less common on Tor imageboards. Pedophiles getting mad at the mods and spamming it in retaliation is more common, as is pedophiles posting it because they mistakenly think it's welcome. There are of course Tor imageboards not to be named which do allow child porn, which are absolutely full of it. Overall, it's pretty rare on the boards that don't allow it. On lambdaplusjs which averages around 40 posts/day excluding spam, the last incident where child porn had to be removed was over two weeks ago.
No.178620
>>178554Yeah, when people post it on a TOR board meant for normal discussions, it's mostly to troll the userbase/owner since they get away with it pretty easily.
>>178357It's simply less caustic to advertise that and it always looks like a LARP. No one gives a kuso about drugs.
No.178664
>>178620I remember nano and picochan... I still have the links bookmarked.
No.178665
>>178663Time to mine kohlcash against
No.178675
meguca xss
[deleted image of undesirable website was attached to original post]
No.178676
>>178675closed source wins again
No.178677
>>178675oh right the pedonigger got bored with 4ch and is raiding the shart and hacking IBs wih AI prompts
No.178682
>>178675>hacking IBs wih AI promptshuh?
No.178683
>>178682he told the ai to audit meguca and it found a critical xss bug and several other vulns.
non zero chance he'll try to do it to vichan or other primary codebases
No.178684
>>178675Vern, CG and any admin reading: pass the word that if your source code is forked or public this fucker is 100% capable of finding vulns
No.178692
>>178684i mean what can they realistically do? it's a problem that affects every public repo by now
No.178707
>>178677>bored with 4ch*defeated by 4ch
ftfy
No.178715
>>1786774ch as in 4chan? Cause I don't remember any 4ch spam...
No.178716
>>178675What was the image?
No.178723
>>178716Lead proxypedo bragging about using AI to find an exploit in another IB and taking down the site.
No.178738
>>178715we've discussed cumg and its children before
there's a whole novella of mildly hilarious drama involving key players but what matters is that every 4cutie posting limitation since 2023 is that site's fault.
No.178808
>>178738I know who the /cumtrash/ people and co. are, I was just making a joke about the anon mentioning 4ch instead of saying 4chan, cause the former as a name is already taken.
No.178814
>>178717Which site was attacked? Or was it just a proof of concept?
No.178819
>>178814apparently a meguca liveboard
No.178853
>>178845rip
hope they had their fun
No.178869
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for the 22chan anons that still lurk this place here's the freeloading thread
>>>/secret/42044 No.178870
>>178853Tf2chan had been dead for ages anyway
No.178895
>>178845I'm surprised it took them this long
the site has been in a zombie state for about 10 years now. I have no idea how it's still up in the first place, my guess is someone's keeping it as an archive of what it once was.
Also i noticed the site got excluded from the wayback machine recently rip.
No.178905
>>178845>kusaba xdamn that's a real dinosaur
No.178912
>>178895>Also i noticed the site got excluded from the wayback machine recently rip.so did futaba. fucking wayback ruining my research
No.178913
Death to archives. Long live anonymity and ephemerality. Ichi-go, ichi-e.
No.178930
>>178913Ha-ha, well said, my friend!
By the way have you read Shii's book, the Sacred Science of Ancient Japan? It's getting reprinted. you should buy 5 copies.
No.178961
>>178845why did it take them so long? the site has been dead since 2016 or 2017
No.178973
4taba is back
No.179008
fuckweb-3-0 was a small imageboard but maybe its admin killed himself, it's closed as of recently.
also, heyuri released some logs of the current world2ch admin blackmailing them with some of their users doxes:
https://rentry.co/world2ch No.179010
Anything involved with heyuri is probably fiction unless both sides affirm
No.179011
>>179008imagine believing anything h*yuri says
No.179012
>>179010>>179011that's kind of a stupid take tbh
like the source or not, if you are posting here you can make your own researches before calling stuff bullshit
No.179013
¥oh no my site got spammed¥must be some other site's admin¥he also doxed my users (don't ask how)¥proof: some rando on IRC said it was himSensible chuckle.
>>179010That's a pretty good principle for imageboard documentation in general. Doubly so when one site is run by a known drama queen with a martyr complex and a tendency to self-mythologize.
No.179014
>>179013first of all you are severely out of date with heyuri (but let's stop here, you can make your own fresh research if you care)
secondly, it's simply a given that a site's staff will know who is who if they have access to seeing users IP addresses. You can doubt their honesty and that's fine but it's stupid to think the site admins won't know the truth
No.179016
>>179015
"actually a cool guy" according to whom?
"disgusting content" according to whom?
piss off tachi
No.179017
>>178833So many low quality drawings on that site. What happened? Wasn't like that before it got spammed.
No.179018
>>179017It got popular, i guess. The /pol/kuso spam and broken Librefox canvases also don't help but as far as I know the admin doesn't delete anything unless it's illegal or caused by a raid.
No.179031
>>179022He's been making similar doomy statements for quite some time, it's hard to take hime seriously by now
No.179035
>>179031I mean its good advice, there isn't really any clearnet site with "questionable" content that you can guarantee the existence of these days, so you should just save whatever you care about before it becomes a husk of itself due to some regulation or the other.
And while his whole manner of talking about the issue
has gotten a little grating, from the notices he's posted where its clear that cloudflare is basically arbitrarily felting his site (deserved for using them anyway?) I can get where its coming from.
No.179037
>>179036Retiring before 1000000000 on /b/, huh...
No.179038
>>179022I blame angloids, norms and krauts for this.
No.179044
>>179043Love this rendition of WTH as a bulky slightly fat bara demon
No.179049
>>179043>>179036No surprise there. KoG, sakurafish, cirnofags, siztra and a bunch of other names where part of a pretty big network of /a/-related chatrooms*. They were in the habit of hyping their own legends, that's why that pyramid exists in the first place. Naturally they aged out of circlejerking on the internet. KoG was one of the last guys still holding on.
* Before you start ranting this was many years before the idea of a "4chan derived offsite chat" became synonymous with culture war gayop cabals. Every board had a spinoff IRC back in the late 00s / early 10s.
No.179070
>>179048I know, I thought k*z was gone for good
No.179074
>>179017the admin is hilariously hands off
I did call a bunch of blatant spam out and the response I got was "it's funny"
probably drove a lot of effortposting away
No.179078
>>179074Failed canvas, duplicate posts, politics and text "drawings" should all get removed. I love Paperchan, but the admin's negligence will end up harming it in the future.
No.179093
>>179043You made me check up on mugen, good to see him still alive years after his cancer I guess
No.179095
>>179074>>179078I've seen sites going to kuso once political posters get too comfortable a few times already. Always makes me wonder if it's the quality posters leaving or them just going all out once it turns out the administration is okay with it/getting forced into accepting it.
No.179128
>>179048>imageboard retro sceneas in old imageboards or imageboards that try to be old-school?
>>179095politics in non-political spaces are cancer on the modern internet
No.179131
>>179128the latter. and they aren't fucking around either they managed to set up some really old stuff like the minibss forks used for ayashii world.
unfortunately the admin and his clique are literal poison, a lot of people choose to stay away because of them. so their community is isolated.
No.179146
>>178833I love paperchan because every time the admin does something wrong people start drawing either violent or sexual art of his stickman face avatar thing
No.179147
Imageboards are retro by default.
Like being into ham radio.
No.179150
>>179149What is the little guy listening to?
No.179152
>>179147"i am not old, i am not old!" i try to type, but my arthritis is acting up
No.179153
>>179150Ham-Funk era, funked out with a taba twist.
No.179157
>>179149rad ham radio, with your host: mc squibbles
No.179173
Where is the desert bus thread?
No.179189
>>179176Nah fuck you leather man
No.179316
>>178831I think this is just gonna keep happening every week
No.179393
>>179316I think Vulon is just unhappy with the site and doesn't bother moderating it at this point. The good thing is its open source so if the site ever shuts down you could make your own clone of it.
https://github.com/vulonkaaz/paperchan.club/ No.179499
Is 8chan working for anyone else?
No.179506
>>179499It is for me as of writing, but it has been on and off the last few days. they've been suffering from DDoS attacks
No.179507
>>178263>According to the leaker the sharty admins want to shut down the imageboardQuote (the current admin of the sharty) has confirmed that he will shut it down when he gets tired of running it.
Also, according to sharty splinter users, somebody found a severe vulnerability in Vichan which seems to allow the attacker to gain admin access.
https://secapedia.org/index.php/The_Great_Vichan_Crisis No.179508
>>179507Scary. Even kissu runs vichan right?
No.179509
>>179507Lmao that wiki feels like reading trogoldyte poop scriptures
No.179511
>>179507Big if true. almost every imageboard runs vichan.
No.179512
>>179507How do we know if this isn't the same situation that happened with Sushichan a year ago where some soyfag just guessed the admin password and started deleting posts? Or better yet, a rogue admin.
No.179513
>>179512From what I understand he took down two different sites?
No.179515
>>179513It doesn't seem like they have any interest in taking down non-soysphere sites. But i'd still keep an eye out just in case.
No.179516
>>179515It's a matter of time before someone else discovers those in the age of AI.
No.179518
Correction: one site got hacked, other shut down and started migrating software in response.
No.179519
>>179518Unless more proof comes out, I think either of these options
>>179512 might be correct.
Sushichan did get PGed about a year ago because some 'teen found out that the admin password was something like "admin/password". I'm not sure how that happens or if Vichan automatically resets the password to the default one but I feel like that's what probably happened with the "hacked" site here.
No.179521
>>179519That's not too minimize the issue though I still think it might be worth looking into the actual code and seeing if there really are any vulnerabilities.
No.179523
>>179507How bad is it really if someone has my IP? It seems like a nothingburger without other compounding data points about me.
No.179524
>>179523I'm more concerned about the fact that the guy has access to the admin panel, which implies making new boards or deleting them, and banning/deleting user posts. You basically have the power to fuck up the whole site with that. IPs mean nothing when it comes to imageboards. All they do is let admins know what your country is, they're never accurate.
No.179525
>>179508yeah, a modified version
No.179526
>>179523My guess:
1. Someone can see you whole post history and make guesses about your real life. Given the history of "that imageboard", I can assure you that they are very skilled at doxxing people for fun and do it on the regular, and might try even for random kuso you might have said in a post. Or if the leaks go public someone you might have pissed off on the website could try to doxx you for personal revenge. That's why everyone was swearing they were going to find and *murder* the 4chan hacker if he released user data last year.
2. Someone can cross reference your IP and the fingerprint associated with it with other past leaks of other websites to do 1) or try to get your email/passwords with the new info. New information is always useful and if a leak does not go public it could be released on leak forums for whatever usage by others.
3. A mix of 2 and 1 as in: I see if you ever mentioned any nickname or mail or phone number or discord account or any real life even you said you use or you have been to, and I look it up on crawlers or past leaks.
No.179527
if I have your IP I can look it up on a find-what-this-IP-address-is-torrenting website
No.179528
>>179524Maybe an intermediate solution would be to implement robust monitoring around admin activity and making the file system read only if an unauthorized IP is accessing the admin panel.
>>179526A motivated attacker can become a nuisance, yes, I think a good exercise against that possibility would be pondering about, lets say, how you would blackmail your worst enemy if all their online activity has become available to you, in addition to where they study/work and their personal contacts. Eliminate blackmailable activity if present, and have a good social standing so that false accusations naturally deflect. With good cyber hygiene on top, I believe this is overall a pretty robust defense against getting doxxed.
No.179530
>>179528Sorry for double posting, one thing I haven’t addressed in your post was if they attempt to get my email and passwords. For that case I’d recommend using a secure device, like an iphone, using a password manager with good track record, and locking down your accounts with at least totp or ideally passkeys, and maybe storing these passkeys on a hardware security module like a yubikey. At least that’s what I do. In that case a breached password is useless beyond breaching one account, and they’d still be stuck in the 2 factor authentication flow.
No.179538
>>179512Something like this already happened:
>>178675 >>178677 >>178683I'll take a moment to say: I warned you dawg
No.179540
>>179526>2. Someone can cross reference your IP and the fingerprint associated with it with other past leaks of other websites to do 1) Important: This depends entirely on whether you have a dynamic or static ISP that holds down the IP long enough to ever be crossreferenced.
You are more likely to be cross referenced for the emails, usernames or passwords you use.
No.179541
>>179507So is it over for vichan imageboards or what
No.179548
>>179541Depends on the hacker existing in the first place and not being a prank by soy spinoff admins
Then, it depends on the hacker being actually smart and having dl's the dbs of all the sites he pwnd
Then, it depends on the hacker being interested in pwning non-soy sites at all.
So far, nothing is certain. If this escapes wojak sites I'd expect 8moe to be the first affected. Personally I'm close to calling bullshit on the whole thing. "0days"? no what the term means.
Either way this should be a wake up call for people who don't believe AI assisted auditing works. Audit your fucking code. No.179551
>>1795488moe runs on LynxChan so it's unaffected by these exploits at the very least. IIRC the backend portion is actually pretty small.
No.179552
>>179548>not what it meansA zero-day (also known as a 0-day) is a vulnerability or security hole in a computer system unknown to its developers or anyone capable of mitigating it.[1] Until the vulnerability is remedied, threat actors can exploit it in a zero-day exploit, or zero-day attack.[2][3]
The term "zero-day" originally referred to the number of days since a new piece of software was released to the public, so "zero-day software" was obtained by hacking into a developer's computer before release. Eventually the term was applied to the vulnerabilities that allowed this hacking, and to the number of days that the vendor has had to fix them.
No.179553
>>179551Isn't lynx part of the vichan family?
No.179554
>>179553No, both it and jschan were seemingly written completely from scratch and run on Node. Vichan is PHP and descended from this ancient script that used to run a /new/ bunker when moot deleted it (lmao)
No.179556
There are a lot of ways to misconfigure vichan. There aren't so many to exploit it.
Realistically think about what this takes. The screenshots that were taken are of the mod dashboard. Assuming a correctly configured vichan this means that the person entered a username of an admin and entered in some kind of password which caused the php crypt assignment to freak out(the were probably still using MD5 encryption which kissu doesn't).
Or lets assume that vichan's security is perfect and that didn't happen. Someone could run a particular piece of software with a vulnerability and have them steal the mod tokens or such.
Then if it were misconfigured then there are some ways that someone could do maybe a more sophisticated exploit on the mod token signature..
The routes of this exploit seem dubious that there's any specific issue.
No.179557
And speaking of which... people say to audit the code with AI. But you can also do this write now on PHPdevel github and report back what it says. Then it won't be a zero day anymore. But i figure it will say things like md5 is insecure and it shouls have 2fa
No.179558
>>179556i think an imageboard NEEDS anonymous mods as well. otherwise you paint a pretty big social engineering target on your board.
No.179559
>>179523If it makes you feel better when I doxed people (years and years ago) and when I look at big doxes every now and then IP addresses are very rare. For the average internet dweller they are only really good for determining a rough area where your target might be (which can corroborate good, factual information mind you). Forget about it if they're using a VPN and/or Tor.
IF they are good enough social engineers, then they might be able to wrestle your ISP into handing over your subscriber information. I've never seen it, but knowing that some companies hand over information first before validating a police request, I'm sure it happens every once in a while.
>If the case is internet based, finding the internet protocol (IP) addresses is your first step in the investigation. An IP address consists of numbers and letters, and that series is attached to any data moving through the internet. In order to retrieve an IP address from some Internet Service Providers (ISP) you will need to subpoena, warrant, or court order the company for information.>What an IP address contains:>who owns and operates the network address,>associated domain name/ computer name,>geolocation,>email addresses, and>local service provider identifier.>All ISPs are based on subscriptions to the company, these companies have records of everything their subscriber’s do while on the internet. The timeframe that ISPs retain data from subscribers varies, therefore the investigation must move quickly. As the investigator, you can make a formal request to the ISP requesting they preserve the data in question while a subpoena, warrant, or court order is made requiring the records. Even with this letter, ISPs are not legally obligated to preserve the data for law enforcement.I also used to moderate an imageboard that 100% of anons here know about, and it keeps IP addresses attached to posts all the way back to two thousand fucking eleven.
No.179560
>>179559>it keeps IP addresses attached to posts all the way back to two thousand fucking eleven.hashed or not? it's bad either way but slightly less bad if they're hashed and salted.
No.179561
>>179559The 4chinz' db only stores ip addresses if they are on the ban list. I didn't bother to check if they store contents of the banned post, iirc they only do that for illegal bans. of course every active post has all their metadata attached and those living fossil boards still have posts from the early 10s.
If you are talking about another IB, i actually can't remember if there's any today that's old enough to have been active in 2011, without losing their db at least once. 7chan? wapchan?
No.179562
>>1795617chan is from 2005
Wapchan from 2022 (if not one or two years earlier)
No.179564
In my humble opinion, there is no reason to store user IPs for longer than 3 days.
No.179565
>>179527Everytime I check this the people on my shared ip address are torrenting porn or movies and dodgy software, what's the worst that could be inferred?
No.179568
>>179560confused wapchan with lainchan, which i just checked and is from 2014.
No.179570
>>179565The 4chan hack really exposed how retarded 4chan's opponents really are because they leaked janny ips and looked them up on iknowwhatyoudownload as if it meant anything.
No.179573
VICHAN REPO JUST GOT ARCHIVED
this is historical.
https://github.com/vichan-devel/vichan/commit/ec2784c94893d6a3ff4a6d7766041affffdd365a"Vichan has reached its end of life. many of us have lost interest in the project, and the current direction of the internet has not been good for imageboards, whether its ID verification laws, big social media companies killing competition, or Google being hostile towards smaller sites. There are other imageboard engines out there but even if you use them, these are still issues you will need to think about if you start an imageboard or UGC website. You can still install or fork vichan, but do so at your own risk."
No.179574
>>179573huh and angeleno's previous submit back in february was the rip hotwheels edit
he may've been thinking about this since the end of october last year
what's most interesting is that this is the guy who became admin of the soywiki and sharty dev at around the same time he took over this repo, having found the soysphere during covid
No.179575
>>179574It's not a coincidence that this happened the same day a vichan soyboard (the shemmy) got hacked. Angelino was also an admin of the shemmy.
No.179576
>>179573oh its fucking over man
No.179577
>>179573What does this mean for imageboards that run on vichan like kissu?
No.179578
>>179577probably that vermin will have to speed up the process of migrating kissu fully from the vichan codebase, since he was already planning to do that.
>>>/b/11010Though, I have to wonder about the long term stability of that, being an imageboard admin is significantly easier when some other person or group is doing the dedicated bulk work of updating the forum software you use. Well, its already been high friction to make an imageboard as is, one has to wonder how much more painful this could even really make it.
No.179579
I haven't touched vichan devel in years... do people even want anything different from vichan.. like how many people care about if a game is using Unity, Godot or UE.. it's just vanity projects for shareholders and tech leads.
No.179580
>>179579>do people even want anything different from vichan.. like how many people care about if a game is using Unity, Godot or UE.. it's just vanity projects for shareholders and tech leads.Does it matter if people don't care? At the end of the day what matters is what's most useful or pragmatic to use, so if its useful its worth making.
Also software is opinionated, so there will never be a one size fits all solution for anything, someone will always think of a way it could be different, shareholders are not the root cause of game engine fragmentation.
No.179581
>>179580What is this cope... literally everything that an imageboard needs to do is covered by the php7 specs. If you don't know how to use or augment an engine it's your fault, not cause to build a new engine.
No.179582
I'm not sure how many people were waiting and updating vichan every few months. I think they typically just download and run it and do personal changes if desired. Before the wojak guy was handed it (which shouldn't be trustworthy to ANYONE) hotwheels had been extremely sporadic and rather unwilling to update it, yet people still used it.
I just don't see it as much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. I'm willing to eat my words if people with 2D imageboards and such were eagerly awaiting software updates from the same people that wanted to wipe them off the face of the internet.
No.179584
damn, does no one argue nowadays..
No.179585
>>179581i honestly don't know how your reply relates to the anon's posts. he's arguing that imageboard soft should be updated because there's still a practical necessity for running imageboards
But even then vichan dying is related to Angeleno "officially" killing basic vichan after years of it being actually dead, which i presume happened because he doesn't want to spend time reviewing the code for security holes.
No.179586
>>179585it literally doesn't. No matter how sophisticated you try to make your imageboard software, the websites running it will still be eclipsed by some legacy PHP code website that's been agressively advertised
No.179587
Kissu should migrate to Picochan.
No.179588
>>179586what do you mean "eclipsed"? no one is going to force you to use something else. especially when security is at stake.
No.179590
>>179582angeleno iirc was originally closer to spinoff/ib retro crews than to wojak lads. Don't think he was #qa but he was definitely posting then. I believe he got tangled up in the party's bullshit because k-man, who basically ran the retro crew, was pressuring everyone to get involved in party bullshit. Angeleno did like wojak shitte and was one of the last ones to leave, but he did leave.
Besides, you literally have his entire commit history here. He commited no foul on Vichan.
>>179586>the websites running it will still be eclipsed by some legacy PHP code website that's been agressively advertisedI lost you there verm.
>>179587TO TREVORCHAN
No.179591
>>179587kissu should work with wapchan and the other friend sites to develop a new engine
No.179592
>>179587i unironically like it but the dev told me not to use it because he wrote it in high school. shame because the lua codebase is actually nice imo
No.179593
>>179591Hikari3 already uses its own engine i think
No.179594
>>179593yeah, it's only kissu, 39chan, wapchan and sushichan that are still stuck with vichan
No.179595
>>179594why don't we just all build off the hikari3 engine (koshi)?
No.179597
>>179586>>179581I'm okay with staying on vichan but I'd rather have it audited.
No.179598
>>179597slim chance someone's gonna audit an abandoned project with six billion forks
No.179599
>>179598You can do it with AI so we're fucked anyway, no matter the software.
No.179600
We need the 4taba engine, that thing runs like a well-oiled machine.
No.179601
>>179594what about tohno chan? last i visited they still used kusaba
No.179602
>>179599at least on an actively maintained project like JSchan where a lot of boards use it you're going to have a level of security higher than vichan.
No.179603
>>179602jschan looks like kuso tho
No.179604
jabascript
No.179606
>>179603just an example
also tbh as a regular on zchan it's not that bad, and it's one of the few that has an easy captcha and easy posting without javascript
No.179607
>>179601they use vichan now
No.179608
>>179601kusaba was infamous for its security holes back in the day. trevor slowcum wrote tinyib and then sriracha to replace it but both seem pretty deficient.
No.179609
>>179608tinyib was ok for what it set out to do at the time.
exploit wise, i don't think there's a single script out there that's properly patched. cybersecurity at that level just was never a problem.
No.179614
Are Lynxchan and JSchan the only imageboard engines with an active development?
No.179616
>>179614there's also sriracha which i mentioned above but the templates need some serious work
No.179618
>>179616Never seen any website use Sriracha
No.179620
So now that vichan is dead is there anything like it that doesn't look like kuso and instead looks/functions almost exactly like Yotsuba?.
No.179623
>>179620>So now that vichan is dead-Posted from vichan
No.179633
>>179629
You can't just post x links without any text..
No.179634
>>179600No... God no... Don't make me configure that software again
No.179636
>>179635Honestly you're better off not watching it, not sure why this was even posted here.
No.179637
>>179635I had to use xcancel to see it, and it was not even worth the time. I'm not even sure if it is a song or whate since I have the sound off right now.
No.179638
How can I improve upon this code in order to boost security
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpI'll fetch that file to review it.
Fetched:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpFetched:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/vichan-devel/vichan/refs/heads/master/mod.phpThis is the mod panel router for vichan (an imageboard). Here are the notable security issues and improvements:
1. Open redirect (critical)
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https://evil.com. Validate that r is a same-origin/relative path before redirecting (parse it, reject absolute URLs and // protocol-relative forms, allowlist your own host).
2. Timing-unsafe CSRF token comparison (high)
php
if ($token != make_secure_link_token
(substr($actual_query, 1))) {
!= is non-constant-time and loose. Use !hash_equals(make_secu
re_link_token(...), (string)$token). Same applies to the loose $token != ... elsewhere—use strict comparison plus hash_equals.
3. CSRF protection only covers secure/secure_POST routes
State-changing handlers not prefixed secure (or GET-based deletes) have no token check. Audit every route that mutates state and ensure it's secure_POST. Ideally, no destructive action should be reachable via GET at all.
4. make_secure_link_token strength
Not shown here, but this is the whole CSRF defense. Confirm it's HMAC over the path using a per-user secret with a constant-time verify—not a truncated hash. The 8-hex-char (32-bit) token is short and brute-forceable in principle; consider widening it.
5. Regex DoS / input surface
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'QUERY_STRING']);
Decoded query is run against many regexes with (.+) catch-alls. Cap query length before matching to reduce ReDoS and abuse potential.
6. Debug info leakage
When $config['debug'] is on, request/handler internals are exposed. Ensure debug is force-disabled in production regardless of config drift.
7. Header injection
header('Location: ' . $_GET['r'])—modern PHP blocks \r\n in header(), but combined with #1 it's still risky. Fixing the open redirect resolves this.
The dominant real-world risk here is #1 (open redirect) and #2 (token comparison). Since this is upstream OSS, the highest-value move is submitting these as a PR/issue rather than only patching locally.
Want me to draft the specific patched code for the redirect and token checks?
No.179639
Any other issues
Scrutinized code for overlooked defects
Scrutinized code for overlooked defects
A few more worth flagging:
8. Token stripped from query but validated loosely
php
$actual_query = preg_replace('!/([a-f0-9]{8})$!', '', $query);
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11. Board matching re-runs user-influenced regex
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if (preg_match('/^' . sprintf(..., '(' . $config['board_regex'] . ')') . '$/u', $matches[$key], ...))
board_regex is config-controlled (low risk), but the array_search($board_match, $matches) to locate the board capture is fragile—if two captures share the same string value, it finds the wrong index and could reassign the wrong match. A named-capture-only approach would be safer than value-searching.
12. Handler dispatch trusts config-provided callables
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} elseif (is_callable($handler)) {
call_user_func_array($handler, $matches);
Custom pages from $config['mod']['custom_pages'] can register arbitrary callables invoked with request-derived $matches. That's a config-trust boundary—fine if config is trusted, but it means config write access = RCE. Worth documenting as an invariant.
13. No explicit per-action authorization here
check_login($ctx, true) gates the whole file, but per-action permission checks live inside each mod_* handler. This router grants no defense-in-depth if a handler forgets its own permission gate. Not a bug in this file, but the architecture puts a lot of trust downstream.
The genuinely actionable ones remain #1 and #2 from before, plus #10 (trivial fix) and #9 (design-level). The rest are more "review the invariant" than "patch the line."
I'd caution against treating any of this as exploitable without reading the linked functions (make_secure_link_token, check_login, the mod_* handlers)—several concerns depend entirely on their implementations. Want me to trace those?
Claude is AI and can make mistakes. Please double-check responses.
No.179640
Anyways..
It's as i thought... Basically just CSRF attacks which are problematic if your mod team are retards(and basically impossible to solve should they be)
No.179641
2) is a funny exploit, bur proper vichan config solves it
I checked other files and it's more of the same. Vichan's mod cookie system is flawed. But every vichan owner should know this already and turn on ip verification..