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Welcome to the new When They /cry/ board! You can post Higurashi content without worrying about spoiling things. This board won't be showing up on /all/ or the front page. You can post about Umineko and Ciconia, too, but you should use spoiler options on those for the time being. This is something we can figure out together.
A custom CSS is in the works, so you might see changes to the visuals now and again.
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Oh my God, am I dead too?


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Nice to meep you all.


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Now is the time to say your goodbyes to 2023 /cry/. It will come back again next year. Feel free to make any WTC threads on other boards in the meantime. You'll be able to type /cry/ into the address bar to visit, but you won't be able to post.

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Alright, it's time to /cry/!
To celebrate Watanagashi (and /cry/'s yearly return) we're going to stream the original Higurashi anime and all its many episodes! It will never fit in one or even 4 nights, so we're going to do it as weeks-long event with like 4-6 episodes each weekday.
Standard stream start time of 7PM EST / 12AM UTC (EDIT: MOVED BACK AN HOUR)
Question Arc: 12th through 16th
Answer Arc: 19th through 23rd
Specials: 26th+

If you don't know what Higurashi is like, well... It's happy, but also sad and very violent. Extremely good characters and it's very emotional and the music is fantastic, including the anime-exclusive stuff. The ideal experience is to read it, but if you don't have about 80 hours to devote to that then you should at least watch the anime. It's one of things you really need to experience.

After all this concludes I think I'll move this thread to /cry/ for archival purposes
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Thread moved to /cry/! Let's do it again next year! (maybe)




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does not exist


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Explain this then.


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It's fan art from the -atari artist obviously.

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Alright, after severe procrastination going back years I finally got my setup going where I have my drawing tablet suspended over my head in bed and I have a game controller in my hand. Alas, I'm getting older and I can't really spend 15 hours a day with my arms in the air for weeks at a time and not get sore arms, so I was waiting until I could get this setup to read in bed before getting back into VNs seriously.
I will post updates in this thread as I read through it. Someone said somewhere I should remember the red text, so maybe I'll take a screenshot of it every time and also make other screenshots and post them in the thread as I talk about it and maybe other people can talk about stuff (and please don't spoil things, although Gou/Sotsu already did that to an extent I feel).

I'm using some PS3 patch thing with the 'Witch Hunt'. I do find the original Ryukishi07 portraits kind of charming, but also distracting, so I'm going with the PS3 versions.
It's time to hopefully completely lose my connection to reality for a period of time again. I love that feeling.
To be continued...
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In Japan, chapter 8 is widely seen as a betrayal on Ryukishi's part. After spending a lot of time building up Umineko as a battle of wits with the player in an active role and the central goal of figuring out Beatrice's identity and motivation, and how the murders took place, the game throws this aspect out the window and goes full metafiction, and gives a cheap solution (lol split personalities) that isn't even explicitly stated in the main game, leaving room for doubt. Many people didn't like the whole goat thing in the later chapters as well, which is just Ryukishi berating the players for trying to solve the game.

Now imagine this is what you get after spending 3 years attending Comiket to buy the games on release and sharing theories on message boards trying to solve the mysteries.

I don't dislike chapter 8 myself, but it's understandable. Also, considering Higurashi used to be touted as one of the "big 3 doujin games" along with Touhou and Tsukihime, and Ryukishi has faded into irrelevance while Touhou is reclining but still going strong and Nasu swims in money... it's hard to say he didn't shoot himself in the foot with Umineko.


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Hmm... Well, I suppose I can see how that would play out. The mystery part seems like an afterthought to me, but I have no interest in it. I already said so earlier, but Higurashi's little epilogue things (like the Tea Parties in Umineko) that asked the reader to come up with theories proved to be something that surely no one predicted, so I would have assumed people would expect something similar. The tragedy of Higurashi was solved when everyone believed their friends could accomplish a miracle, not because of fantastic reasoning and logical deductions. I wonder if people were upset about that, too.
Umineko comes around where magic and witches are mentioned from the beginning and there are storylines like Maria's completely unrelated to the murders and I kind of have to wonder what people were expecting. I think that ship sailed long before chapter 8.


Hmmm, I don't know to what degree the catbox analogy actually applies. There's at least two side stories where we're shown game masters explicitly crafting their board with full knowledge of everything that'll be in it. Complicated stuff.
>What are these exactly?
More novels, a collection of shorter stories like Higurashi Rei/Hou/console arcs. Super recommended:

I think Umineko's solution is much better than Higurashi's. From what I've seen, people were theorizing about Shkannon, Shannontrice, and their relation to the broken promise as early as 2009. A split personality is way, waaaay less out there than an outsider secret society pulling the strings. I mean, how many people predicted Tokyo? Having that fresh in my memory, I wasn't mad at all.
I also came into Umi hoping for a battle of wits (what got me interested in WTC was logic battles roleplay), in chapter 2 I already wasn't a fan of all the magic fights, I thought they were obscuring the real mystery. Which was true, and once I realized that the change in tone was no surprise. I didn't take the goats thing personally even though that's what I'd been doing all along, because in spite of that it's still solvable without magic, there's a concrete solution that you can choose to pursue by design.

As for the ratings and stuff, how was Phase 1 received in Japan? In the west it's the third most posted about, while the ones inbetween it and Umi you never hear of, like Higanbana, Hoturabi, or Rose Gun Days. I myself don't know jack about them either. But P1 was a setup chapter and it's been four years since it released 'cause apparently P2 was going to feature a pandemic and that got royally screwed over. Then came Gousotsu, which was awful. A bad streak.
Gacha may be a important factor too, it was just a couple years after Umi ended that it started to spread, right? I'd bet FGO is what draws most people to Fate nowadays, don't think mobage players are going to sit down and read a long-ass nPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>More novels, a collection of shorter stories like Higurashi Rei/Hou/console arcs. Super recommended:

Yep, I'll definitely be reading those then. Huh, so some people are working on "Umineko Gold" with with help from Ryukishi and Witch Hunt, huh. No interest in English dub (weird), but that sounds interesting. (from the nyaa link)

>The mystery is definitely not an afterthough
Well, alright, the mystery stuff is only an afterthought to me.

That's one of the things I was hoping would be answered in Chapter 8, but never was. Well, I guess it's just magic then. I assumed the "reveal" of Kanon possibly being magically split from Shannon threw a wench in the red text of "There are 18 living humans on the island" from a few chapters earlier, especially after the Kinzo may or may not have been dead. I remember some witch saying that was a risky thing to say.


They're good stuff. Though Gold is apparently ultra dead, has been for some time now.
Looking at the wiki, the statement for most episodes is something like: There are no more than 18 humans on this Rokkenjima. Even counting Erika, it checks out.

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cuh.... c-c-cuh....


you cut off the part where she rebuttons her blouse


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true but that's like ten more seconds


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That is NOT what she said!

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Today is Satoko's birthday. Happy Birthday, Satoko!
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Satoko's birthday once again!


satan's birthday...


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It is indeed Satantoko's birthday. Or at least is and some time zones and yesterday in others.


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the dog girl


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We need to find the fragment where it's a corndog


I wish I could go to a fiesta with the Higus.

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She was just playing by the rules.


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Satoko is a good, empathetic and lovable character!


I'm sure you'd say that, Satoshi.


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Satoko's birthday!


Should have put that effort into studying.

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holy shit look it's a FAG

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We're so back


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Don't let Oyashiro-sama sneak up on you. Keep your eyes focused and maintain a full view of the environment




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Keep your eyes focused and maintain a full view of Mr. Delicious' deliciousness.

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What do the Japanese think of Ciconia? Is it popular enough to get voiced characters?


Do they even care about it, really? Ryukishi lost his original fanbase with Umineko ep. 8, plus it's been 4 years and no progress.


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I wonder why; I thought Ciconia was pretty good.
It seems like the vast majority of people who care are non-Japanese.


I could see him going back to it as a passion project. With Silent Hill, a gacha and probably more anime stuff eventually, he's probably set money-wise (deservedly) with royalties and merchandise stuff


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>and probably more anime stuff eventually
Umineko Gou?

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The first arc is probably the hardest arc to rewatch knowing every way that K1 was deluded.


Very 1337 post.
Yeah, that was hard to watch. Knowing the source of the "I'm sorry" is really rough, too.
"Dear You - Cry", which is Rena's version, lives up to its name and always makes me tear up since it mentions her words being unable to reach and her forgiveness.
Rena... ;_;

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. . .


that L2 stare...

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They won


won what


an all-expenses-paid trip to D*sneyland


Awesome! Which resort are they staying at?


the gay contest


True love

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2 new higurashi chapters by R07, takes place after 35 years, apparently leaked from a magazine, (official announcement soon?)
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>Satoko's kid
Who's the dad?


Some random member of the Kimiyoshi family, apparently. She runs a souvenir store.


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I wonder if these cult members have their own version of Hinamizawa Syndrome that makes them go insane and kill people with their own queen carrier and everything.




By the way was this just the tie-in manga for the gacha?

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