No.121824
>4chan moderation transparency is just abysmal
It comes down to moot's idea to make moderators anonymous and then moot positioned himself as the avenue of public comment. One of the last things moot did before leaving was to take away every mod's capcode. Every time you see "Anonymous ##mod" post it's either one of 4chan's actual sysadmins, or a moderator that has received a special one time use capcode from those sysadmins.
Once moot left 4chan lost its frontman so all that's leftover is the policy of the anonymous opaque moderators. No public face.
No.121835
>>121824Proofs? I'm fairly sure mods still posted with some regularity after moot left. There wasn't even an admin for almost a year in between. The radio silence policy only came on after Hiro had time to implement the transition to a behind-the-scenes, (nominally) rules-based moderation system.
No.121843
>proof
I'd have to dig it up but the info comes from A-San's /qa/ and /a/ rant in 2016 when he was fired for the last time.
No.121845
>>121835The capcode thing is news to me, but I'm pretty sure I remember moot talking about making the moderation team invisible in one of his 4chan updates. I can't find it, but I am pretty sure that he forbade them from even identifying themselves as mods within a post body.
That's why modcat sent out messages via warnings, and that's why he got banned.
No.121847
One of the things I remember A-san saying in the end is that mods were tiered. You needed very strong seniority to post with a capcode. Essentially you had to be promoted after years of moderation the way a janitor would become a mod, leading to a clique within a clique within a clique. (The other thing he pointed out is that the camaraderie was largely missing when he returned in 2016)
/pol/ has the most mod posts by a large margin within the past 8 or so years, which makes sense when you consider swaglord and rapeape are both keenly interested in the board. I think /g/ has fission that occasionally posts as a mod and does CSS stuff while ABIB does similarly on /v/. Mod stuff seems significantly more rare elsewhere apart from grandfather'd /a/ stuff and famous deaths.
Of course all these names are only known because of IRC. It could be other people are involved, but we'd never know.
No.121877
>>121847/sp/ also got a number of fun things during World Cup, but I'm not sure how much of that is present for less important tournaments/games. At least one mod listens to r/a/dio and did CSS shenanigans a couple years ago, but I sort of feel like he's one of the guys who comes back just for that because all the other mod activity there is very minimal and often belated. Christmas Carol being a rolling sticky was so retarded you have to think the guy who did it had no idea what he was stickying.
No.121881
>>121435Honestly, I think that /a/ (and to a lesser degree, other boards as well) at this point can only die a slow death anymore.
Newcomers will recognize that the site is mechanically not supportive of its functionality and go elsewhere instead. As the board loses relevance in the overall anime scene, even oldfags will first browse secondary communities before switching main and secondary community.
I can imagine a few of the more incestuous sub-communities holding out for much longer. But they can't realistically recruit new members when the board around them is a wasteland.
No.121941
>>121939That is fucking embarrassing holy shit
No.121943
>>121939I have no words.
I tried to, but I don't.
No.121944
>>121939Yep we're redpilling normies hard with this one! Praise Kek!
No.121947
>>121944It really sounds like a bunch of newfags that were drawn to 4chan by politics, masturbating over how influential they are now that they are Anonymous.
No.121950
>>121939I don't think it's that bad... It looks kinda ironic to me? You know, it's deliberately using lines from infamous reports on 4chan. Not to say that it will be perfect, but it does seem well-researched. They've got some guys from the 2000s chanosphere like Kirtaner apparently? Can't be that bad.
No.121951
>>121948It's just the trailer. You can still hold out hope for the full documentary.
No.121952
>>121939Kirtlaner is there and I think I hear hotwheels which means they at least reached out to people tangentially involved instead of the usual "culture consultants" or whatever you call those internet experts who don't actually know anything. Although those are two people that love to hear themselves talk and will make things sound extremely dramatic to make themselves sound important.
Also that MIGHT be snacks with the blurred face and the hat, but I don't really know what he looks like now.
It's going to suck, but probably less than people expect it to since they did the bare minimum.
No.121959
>>121952you're supposed to just instinctively hate it because imageboards are simultaneous not important and worth a lot of time investment.
No.121961
>>121959>imageboards are [] not importantAnd to me this is a critical problem with the trailer. It attempts to paint 4chan as very important, and describes the rest of the internet as being 4channified.
No.121964
>>121961I'm calling you a hypocrite for hating on the concept of reporting and documentary.
>>121963what's this refering to
No.121968
>>121965notararies are informal lawyers who handle civil record taking for clients. It's not a court thing. But from the looks of things he's doing an on record statement for court relating to something he's not showing up for
No.121969
>>121964the tops shooting lawsuit
4chan, and a ton of other social media companies were denied dismissal from a product liability lawsuit
so hiro testify
and they requested a ton of information, and they'll likely get it, through 'discovery'
then probably more requests
>>12196503/22/2024
No.121971
I see
>The suit is a test of the limits of Section 230, a law that has long shielded internet platforms from lawsuits over content posted by their users. The plaintiffs are 25 survivors of the shooting, who are represented by the legal group Everytown Law, which specializes in gun safety litigation.
Axe this kuso section already. It does no good for society
No.121975
would be funny if the next yanitor leak is from the lawsuit
>as requested, janiteamlogz.txt
No.121977
>>121971It does a lot of good for the internet as we know it. If it did not exist, platforms would be held liable for the content posted on it, the same I'm sure as vermin must contend with obeying Canadian law.
No.121978
That's kind of the whole reason they've roped in Hiro, apparently. They want to hold 4chan liable for the posts on it, and extract damages or otherwise shut down the website for the content posted on it. The internet as we know it would look very different without Section 230. If you hate the pandering websites already must do to appease advertisers, I hate to imagine what the internet would look like if, suppose PeTA could harass some website into shutting down through continual lawsuits, for example.
No.121983
>>121939lmao, they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfags. Have they never seen pics of a meetup? I guess the reality of the site wouldn't help push their obvious political agenda, though.
>>121979Just because it would tear down the big sites overnight doesn't mean it wouldn't impact small ones too. Do you want every post you make on any site to get held for review before a mod decides it's safe to let through? Where they make those decisions in a state of fear for their livelihoods?
No.121986
>>121979
Section 230 is what allows websites like Kissu to exist in the first place. Smaller imageboards do not have the same resources to defend themselves against legal challenges that larger websites have. What you are doing is proposing a world in which only larger websites exist because smaller ones do not have the capital to defend themselves with no legal mechanism to protect them.
>>121980
>>121981
Deleting particular content and deleting illegal content are very different things. One is an ethical consideration and the other is a legal consideration. I do not think that websites should be bullied by the threat of litigation on the sheer basis of having reprehensible content.
>>121984
Section 230 has no qualifications on size of platform. By definition, repealing or weakening it would disproportionately affect smaller sites.
No.121988
>>121986Section 230 does not exist in Canada or for Canadian run websites.
No.122002
>>121964>hating on the concept of reporting and documentary.Not sure what gave you the impression.
No.122006
>>122003
Contrarianism is the foundation of imageboard culture.
No.122016
>>121983>they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfagsThat's what they look like, or rather one form they can take. People on the internet in the 90s and early 00s were huge dorks. Stuff people associate with tumblr or reddit often started before those sites even existed. To say those people look like tumblr is like saying people on 2005 4chan talk like redditors. You have to flip it around.
I think getting people that want to talk about this on TV naturally selects a certain type of person, though. Kirt probably tells his dentist that he personally created Anonymous while his mouth is full and hotwheels has a severe case of troll's remorse, so they're not exactly everyday users. Coincidentally the former gave/sold 420chan to the latter and it's
still dead.
No.122019
>>121983>>122016>they picked a bunch of tumblr-looking goofs to represent oldfags>That's what they look like, or rather one form they can take.Snacks looks a fair bit like them I suppose (guy on the right). But he's also a DJ a DJs tend to look more 'alternative'.
I've been using 4chan since late 2007 and I don't really look like this though. I'm just a pale hikki of average height and weight with longish hair. I don't consider myself 'oldfag' though, just thought it could be relevant since someone in that video said "fifteen years ago".
No.122036
>>122016There's a difference between huge dorks who want everyone to know how much of a huge dork they are and huge dorks who don't want to stand out. Anonymity has always been more attractive to the type of person who prefers to hide their powerlevel, even if some fail to do so well.
No.122037
>>1220364chan posters are and have always been tryhards
No.122040
>>122016>>122019I am pretty sure this is just sample bias.
In order to feature in a documentary, you have to volunteer for the job. (Probably) after being reached out to, because you are a well-known entity in the scene.
No.122079
>and they'll likely get it, through 'discovery'
Thought that had already happened. Or was another case responsible for the wired article screeching about good smile?
No.122094
>>122083if you check the thread you'll notice that it was just some mild silliness. Don't think /qa/ is coming back any time soon.
No.122175
As per unofficial happenings thread rules, people can have their pointless bickering but it gets removed after a few days have passed so the thread is more focused on happenings.
No.122190
>>120375it seems as if the activity levels of a lot of boards are dropping. is this a good thing? are the chinz finally dead?
No.122196
>>122190Good thing because 4chan is better off dead than in its sorry state right now. Bad thing because altchans such as this one will also suffer.
No.122197
>>122196Wtf the options field bugged or something. I'm not copypasting anything there.
No.122198
>>122196If 4chan dies, alts will get a lot of new users and through them become more culturally distinct from each other, which is a good thing.
No.122206
>>121847The team camaraderie is pretty much dead. There is no mod tiering, but capcode posts need to be approved before they are made. Using a capcode to speak individually is strongly discouraged, as is anything other than youtube embeds. The handful of mods that use the embeds often are kind of viewed as morons anyway.