Too exhausted to give a real reply, but yeah. I bumped my thread on /b/ about 'guide to kissu' and people questions could be directed there or something...

I would guess that alot of refugees assume whatever culture that exists in their usual dwellings applies uniformly across any website using an imageboard format, thus there's no impetus to lurk even for a short time and certain words have been appearing more. I don't really know how you can encourage people to lurk.

I get a lot of the hesitation and approval seeking. It's the same boat when I started here and I can put myself in their shoes.

A different culture, there's a desire to be polite and fit in with existing denizens because you see yourself as a guest or newbie, and it's most likely your first time on an alt-chan. This is exacerbated by the crisis. You have a bunch of 4channers on an alt-chan for the first time not because they chose to, and not sure if they'll stick around long term. Some are more concerned with replicating what little they had and finding their fellows, some are exploring their options for the future, but right now they don't see themselves as guests or newfags but as refugees; and for those who are polite they're worried about being seen as rapefugees. There's self awareness of general culture too, it's no wonder they ask for permission since moving your general and importing that culture without concern for the place you may be enshittifying is not a good look or feel. We got a massive taste of that during April fools and everyone saw boards get dumpstered when users moved there en mass. Not to mention embarrassment from their problem posters following behind.

I very much appreciate Kissu for its structure and you guys are great at taking care of problem users, but that took a moment to get a grasp of (good moderation is also a foreign concept). I don't expect them to get it right away, especially when they have more on their plate. It's taken a few days, but I think more are getting comfortable and let their hair down a bit. It's definitely not as bad as it was on the first day where no one had a clue. For a solution I think the FAQ and rules should be "required reads", I thought the number of people who didn't know about noko was amusing.

>>37058
>I bumped my thread on /b/ about 'guide to kissu' and people questions could be directed there or something...
Something that 4chan does is having a sticky on each board roughly outlining acceptable topics of discussion. It's worth maybe doing the same since the difference between /qa/, /jp/ and the seasonal boards are rather subtle.

The refugee threads seem more shitposty now. Is it made up of mostly /a/ and /v/ posters now?

>>37098
Conversely there's more activity outside of them. I think people are starting to settle in while newer arrivals are still hanging out in the giant threads. There's also just the loss of interest in doing meta for 5 days in a row, at least for most people.

all me

>>37060
Refugee is the right word. a lot of us did not choose to come here. We were literally thrust out when 4chan went down and now, we have nowhere to really go. I'll be the first to admit that it took me by complete surprise and I was ruined mentally now that my home for nearly 15 years had suddenly gone down. I was hanging on crash tracker and even went on r*ddit. Took me a day to remember alt chans existed and eventually, I started to explore. Kissu, R3, 8chan, ect. I'm starting to find the places I think I might stay and post in. But the word "refugee" is correct. We are not true members, not yet. We're trying to explore and be courteous unlike the real world equivalent. I know I'll likely stick around for a bit since this place is comfy to me. It does give me hope though that the internet isn't truly dead and true freedom is still very much a thing. You just have to look for it.

petition to wordfilter slop to burg

>>37099
>Conversely there's more activity outside of them.
I'm posting a lot more outside them, but its less about where I'm posting and more about the topic. As a /jp/fag my concern is with our usual habits of making a thread for whatever character we want to talk and shitpost about. I've started a few, posted in a lot more, and while I try to put effort into the post or strike up a discussion it doesn't change that the default state of those threads is dumping images and being horny. I've seen at least one person annoyed with it, and I can sympathize since if you're not used to it looks like the same shit vtubers do where they spam a general for each one.
I get /jp/ is 2D/random and funposting, but should we get more of our normal users here and comfortable I can see it blotting up /jp/, and you're now having to sift through endless 2hu to find the usual /jp/ threads you'd see before last week. It's a habit, and I've caught myself several times falling back into the habit of tunnel vision on touhou and ignoring other threads. I won't stop posting 2hu mind you, but I will try to make better quality posts and hopefully encourage others to do the same instead of just waifu dump funny girls in hats as fun as it is.

I just wanted to be honest about it and get thoughts on what others think before we start taking polite silence for permission.

>>37131
>I just wanted to be honest about it and get thoughts on what others think before we start taking polite silence for permission.
I'm not a mod, but it has been said before that the staff is not keen on generals, and several measures have been enacted in order to prioritize random thread-making over centralization. I understand you guys really like generals, I can see that's the basic form of organization in all recently-active splinters, but could we not try integrating that into something of broader scope? That's one reason I'd like to have /jp/ friends participate in seasonal anime stuff if possible, I think it'd be fairly helpful.

>>37128
"slop" doesn't show up enough on kissu for that.

i think we should filter fag to fat. still an insult, but changes the meaning in a koruri-seque way

>>37137
it's not a bad suggestion in principle but it'd mess a lot with imageboard linguistics so not sure

>>37133
>I understand you guys really like generals
I want to refute this. I really want to refute this, but from an outside view that is what they look like. They are repeat threads on the same loose topic and you could call them generals even if we would scorn the idea and say otherwise. In that sense, 90% of 4/jp/ is generals if you count character threads as such; as loathsome as that definition is, it fits your statement. Still gonna refute it anyway: they're better than run of the mill generals since you don't silo yourself into any single one, you're spread across many different threads carrying along jokes and references between them, and they are given rest when they fall off the board whether from inactivity or bump limit. I'd also say they're not as daunting to a newcomer in the same way generals are, it's a given that it's full of secondaries so you don't need to know every bit about the topic, and once you've been in one you've basically been in them all. 2hufaggotry is a hill I will die on.

>could we not try integrating that into something of broader scope?
I'm not sure what you mean. If it's making more generalized topics from a broader level as not to fill the catalogue with minutiae then it's easy enough to batch related up stuff, but you probably mean something more than that. Do elaborate kudasai.

>I'd like to have /jp/ friends participate in seasonal anime stuff if possible
That's something I'd like to get into too, but my current basis for meaningful contribution is weenie sized. The hard part about the seasonal stuff is if you haven't seen it you don't have anything to add to the conversation, nor do you get the inside jokes like 75 MP and the like. But, if the last streams were anything to go by it seems to grab some new people at least, and spending more time here has made me want to interact with the site more than just a dozen posts per week like before. I gravitate to Touhou because that's all I know well enough to comfortably longpost about it. You didn't need any more than that to comfortably talk to anyone on the jay since that's THE topic. This is not the case here, there's more than 2hu so it would behoove to learn more to avoid the tunnel vision thing. In particular, the seasonal stuff I shied away from since I haven't made it a habit to visit every week, neither did I get started since I'd be joining in the middle of the season of all the times I checked. It's a shame I didn't watch more before now, Apocalypse Hotel had my interest and it was the first time I've watched a full episode of Gundam since distant childhood.

It's certainly different to have threads on /jp/ that routinely get bumped with new pics instead of lasting for a day and people forgetting about it.
I think some of them would benefit from being moved to /ec/, particularly the boobhu one so people could just dump nudity if they wanted. Due to /jp/'s speed if someone has a favorite 2hu their thread could die after a week if /jp/'s speed remains at current levels. They may feel the need to bump it often which is something else that /ec/ would relieve if it's more of an image dump thread instead of discussion.
As it is /ec/ is generally underutilized (less so lately) and this could be a great way to breathe more life into it while freeing /jp/ up to be more spontaneous. The scoring system thing is pretty cool, too, and /jp/ refugees may like it.

>>37141
>The hard part about the seasonal stuff is if you haven't seen it you don't have anything to add to the conversation, nor do you get the inside jokes like 75 MP and the like.

That's fair, although we don't have too many of that. You already know the whole joke, a girl saying she has 75MP. About 3 people watched the show here and I never finished it. If you have any questions about kissu culture/references feel free to ask in >>>/b/12942 so it's a bit more visisble!

>>37137
fag is protected imageboard heritage

>>37147
okay, fat

>>37141
Interesting point, I can see how it differs from a single general in /vg/ in that sense, yes. The community is spread out throughout several standardized receptacles at a time rather than a single one. Nonetheless, it is a different mode of being from what kissu/jp/ is accustomed to.
>easy enough to batch related up stuff
On the contrary! If you want to make a new thread, make it. If you don't want to, you probably still should. I think it keeps things more accessible and has more potential for other people to jump in.
>jokes like 75 MP and the like
Oh, that one's poking fun at the meaninglessness of random numbers in narou-kei. You didn't have to watch the anime, you had to read the thread. It's true that watching stuff as it comes out helps better understand what's being posted about, but if you see a thread and think of a related funpost to make in it feel free to go ahead and make it. Threads like >>>/jp/92453 and >>>/jp/92384 don't even require you to know the context, they're using it as a springboard for something else. (>>>/jp/92386 is a good example of 2hu outside of 2hu threads.)
>It's a shame I didn't watch more before now, Apocalypse Hotel had my interest and it was the first time I've watched a full episode of Gundam since distant childhood.
That's great to hear. I'm also looking forward to playing more with you guys.