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 No.13365[Last50 Posts]

Not going to poll this one because that inspires people to actually post instead of talk things out. Right now we've got most all activity covered by two random boards, with /qa/ intended for longer lasting conversation and /jp/ intended more for funposting.

Over the past week we've sustained a fairly large increase to activity, which has been great, but has also led to a good bit of moving through threads on individual boards quite fast (at least an entire catalog page of movement a day!). For myself, I find this kind of fun and interesting in that it inspires digging through the boards more to find what you're looking for and from there possibly discovering an interesting thread you missed and can respond to which feeds into keeping conversation alive over time. But maybe others don't agree with that mindset and for that I'd be willing to hear out anyone's reasons for and what kind of boards people may want added. This isn't a guarantee anything actually happens if somebody post "yea I want X board", it's an opportunity for people to make a good case for why we should change our minds about adding more boards.

On the topic of what boards to add, I'm not necessarily so certain that we'd be doing good to create a /v/ or /a/ just for refugees to try and capitalize on 4chan's downtime since it feels like a recipe for saying "Here's your temporary place until 4chan's back up!" and then dying as soon as your time in the spotlight's up. If we make something I'd rather it be for a legitimate reason that could serve an actual purpose long-term assuming some traffic stays post-4chan. Not to say it can't be contested, just I think I'd be far less likely to consider it.

 No.13366

I'm of the opinion that if we needed more boards, you wouldn't be asking this in the first place, because it would already be self-evident which ones were needed. So I'm gonna say no.

 No.13368

I don't think we need more boards. It's rare enough for people to use the non-QAJP boards already

 No.13369

board bloat is aids
even if you add a bunch and they see use now they'll most likely be dead once the tourists are gone

 No.13370

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>>13369
That's my main reason for not wanting anything. And it seems to be a consensus among everyone else so far so I guess I'll stop thinking about for now.

 No.13371

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I'm gonna pretend to be neutral on the matter because I want to hear the arguments of people who think more boards are needed.

 No.13372

It doesn't make sense but mod has heard my position on this 100 times...

 No.13373

>>13371
That's why I made the thread! I want to see if there's any good reasons someone can come up with that will surprise me.

 No.13374

The biggest problem with alt chans is board bloat. There's so many boards that posts are dispersed and you have some areas completely dead and others only semi-active. I think it's one of the big contributors for why people eventually stop posting, because nobody wants to post on a dead website.

As it is there's already too many boards. The existence of the /jp/ board will never not look redundant because the whole point of /qa/ was to emulate the good ol' days on /jp/. I think there should only be /qa/, /ec/ (for sperm containment), /b/ for site meta.

 No.13375

Is /qa/ already used for video g- interactive entertainment? I'm not entirely sure what the culture is(western games? I play a mix) and don't wanna be an in/v/ader, I'm well aware of /v/'s notoriety

 No.13376

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>>13374
As always, you're welcome to vote to remove /jp/ anytime >>>/poll/542

Also in my thoughts I came to a conclusion that we should probably expand on the amount of boards /jp/ has since we have a lot more space now.

 No.13377

>>13376
Linking to a thread started five years ago... that's another gripe that I have about alt chans, is the necro threads hanging around. I'm not going to get into it, I just don't think it looks good. I think at some point they should be auto-pruned.

 No.13378

>>13375
Yeah, there's a big video game thread >>>/qa/129768 and others I and Anonymous have created for games at certain points in time.
>>>/qa/146797
>>>/qa/144910
>>>/qa/146380
>>>/qa/138226
>>>/qa/134783
>>>/qa/137839
>>>/qa/100569
>>>/qa/121734
>>>/qa/146321
>>>/qa/105138
>>>/qa/142779
>>>/qa/128927
>>>/qa/112729
>>>/qa/135327
>>>/qa/133286
>>>/qa/133478
>>>/qa/132983
>>>/qa/103108
>>>/qa/108338
>>>/qa/96100

 No.13379

>>13377
It was more a joke since I've held that thread as the reason /jp/ stays up while continuously voting 'No' on it each time my IP changes. Also is there really much of a problem with 'necroing' threads if it brings new discussion? I've never really been convinced it's that awful a thing.

 No.13380

My instinct is to wait and see what traffic sticks before deciding to make a new board and I normally prefer the atmosphere of having a bunch of topics smushed together, but I'll admit that the speed of the overboard makes it hard to find topics about specific things. I do, however, see some benefit in having a board for hobby discussion so that newfriends don't take a glance at the currently overpopulated catalog and assume this is a random nonsense site that doesn't host the discussions of anime or games that they're looking for. So there's the short-term merit in making clear that "hey, these kinds of discussions are welcome here."

Obviously, the long-term benefits depend a lot on how much traffic we retain. At the current speed my usual habit of tabbing over a couple times a day to see all the new posts doesn't really work and I end up skipping a bunch of threads that don't look as appealing. Having a board I can click on to see anime discussion without having to sift through a bunch of 2hu and joke threads would be handy at this speed, but if we go down to like half this speed then following everything through /all/ will still be valid and board separations won't really matter.

But there is one benefit of a hypothetical /av/ board that I'd enjoy regardless of whether we go back to normal speeds or stay super fast is that it would break up those stupid fucking "seasonal anime" and "video game" general threads into more specific threads where I could actually see, follow, and maintain extended discussions about the posts I'm interested in without them being buried in the clutter of endless topic changes. I would love to see more talk about these things on kissu, but so much of the activity for them being sequestered away in those threads is why I've kept prioritizing 4chan and smug for anything that isn't pure funposting.

Board bloat is a serious concern, but in this case as long as the content still matches what you'd expect to see on /all/ then the actual impact of splitting them out is minimal, at least the way I use the site. I was against making /maho/ because of board bloat, but I don't really even notice a difference anymore since they just look like /qa/ posts.

>>13375
You can use either /qa/ or /jp/ for it and I'm glad you're sharing your thoughts. The board naming scheme is really confusing for newfags and we've gotten this type of question even before the current crisis all the time. It's called /jp/, but it's not exclusively for Japanese stuff (or even really strictly 2D stuff). It's called /qa/, but you don't have to ask questions or receive answers. The names are (or were) about carrying over a certain ethos of 4chan boards that no longer really represent what we use them to represent.

I really want to see what you new guys think of this topic as I'd like to make it really clear that you should feel free to talk about the things you want to talk about here because I want to have those conversations too. Also, kissu is a site that generally respects /v/ for retaining its culture to a greater degree than most 4chan boards and several users tend to follow it. Most recently the CPP threads over there were mentioned positively several times here.

 No.13381

>>13380
>hypothetical /av/ board
This was kind of a thought I'd been considering for a while since /qa/ has a very questionable name to most newcomers and I think it taking on a more meta role true to its origin may be for the best since /jp/ does exist as a board for the more funpost-y aspects. And /all/ is the perfect aggregate in my opinion as long as kissu has a more stable sitewide culture. Though I have no idea what we'd name it and the extent of what it'd encompass, but it'd probably be most useful for the more specific threads that people want to make and, like you said, having a more organized place for media conversation that you can pull up and look through the catalog of instead of wading through /jp/ and /qa/ and using the annoying generals.

Also, again, /jp/ should have more pages.

 No.13382

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Mmm, I think it's alright for the time being. I think the main thing is people being confused on where to post things, or just being hesitant to make threads in general. I agree with >>13368 in that people venturing out of /qa/ and /jp/ (or likely the front page of /all/) is already rare enough to begin with.
The other worry is that if we make something like a /v/ board there is a risk of people only using that board which could eventually lead to the formation of a subgroup that does not consider itself kissu but rather kissu/v/, which is something that can't be reversed once it happens. That might be something that's an inevitability once a site grows large enough, but I don't think we're anywhere near there yet.
I think one of kissu's strengths, and a weakness of 4chan's giant size and many other imageboard's compartmentalization, is that we're one group of people. Even if someone only likes to talk about A, they will be exposed to B, C, D and so on through use of our more random-ish way of doing things, allowing people to experience things that wouldn't otherwise and for threads to become more varied as a result. This also encourages more activity in general since even if you're not a C superfan you'll likely have something to say in some random thread about it that you would have never seen on an imageboard that sequesters things into their own corner.

Also check out this Tamaki.

 No.13383

>>13380
>Also, kissu is a site that generally respects /v/
Thanks but I don't know if I would say the same thing lmao
>hypothetical /av/ board
I actually made a random off post about this on 4chan a long ass time ago. Could post anything /av/ and the /a/ slant would naturally filter non-weebs from the /v/ half(maybe). Don't know how useful it is in this situation but I like the idea in theory

 No.13384

>>13381
Actually, the more I think about it the more I like the idea of splitting up the generals into a board instead of singular threads.

 No.13385

>>13380
>Also, kissu is a site that generally respects /v/ for retaining its culture to a greater degree than most 4chan boards and several users tend to follow it.
Hell no, those fags ruined /vr/, one of the last good boards. Having said that, I acknowledge that by virtue of being a large board it does have a minority of good posters, and I also assume the type of retard who just wants to spam buzzwords and catchphrases wouldn't come here.

 No.13386

>>13384
But at the same time I also don't know how much transitory pain at first this'd cause in /qa/ and /jp/ if we then set out to organize the boards, if at all. I'm considering the scenario where we just don't move anything and let people do stuff on their own but that'd probably not motivate anyone to move in the first place. Could probably allow for OPs to request thread moves in that case.

Although with all that said the one big issue I see with this would be that people often complain about feeling bad if their threads don't do well and fall off the front page so that's why they post in the big video game/seasonal thread. But if we had a board dedicated to threads around specific pieces of media maybe that wouldn't be so bad? Then you run into the issue of creating a general board and that's a pain to deal with if you start fostering a separate community within the threads themselves, but maybe kissu having a more unified culture and not that huge of an active userbase would naturally work against that.

 No.13387

>>13386
>having a more unified culture and not that huge of an active userbase would naturally work against that
Also the fact that we didn't immediately siphon generals off of 4chan would mean the majority of them stay over there.

 No.13388

For anime, an obvious solution is to use the season threads to talk about what you're looking forward to, what shows look interesting etc. BEFORE the season starts, and then hold discussion in threads for individual shows. You could lock the season thread after episode 1 is out for everything, for example.

 No.13389

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>>13388
That may be better than making an /av/ board. And while thinking about the downstream effect on future threads an /av/ board might discourage making threads about specific things in an anime or game and instead just reroute all talk into the /av/ thread for it. So I'm not sure how I feel about it given that possibility. Still, the video game thread feels like a problem to me but people like it and have complained about the feeling of low engagement if they post outside of it so I'm in a bit of a pickle with how to deal with it there. Maybe I'll keep letting things smooth over and if we do benefit long-term from 4chan's outage then we can spread the idea of kissu's culture elsewhere and encourage likeminded people to come. If that works out we can maybe revisit this issue again, unless someone can dissuade me of any potential downside not taking action now would have.

 No.13390

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Yeah, I'd like an /av/ board. Hehe.

 No.13391

>>13390
This Akari is nightmare fuel...

 No.13392

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Largely speaking I don't think adding new boards is necessary, but it might not be a bad idea if you look at it from a perspective of incentivizing discussing new topics rather than facilitating existing topics but giving them more "breathing space"
larger communities have more people, ergo more potential interests. 4chan (may it rest in peace) was big enough that it even had separate boards for what I'd describe as extremely niche hobbies like origami. I don't know each board's history but I think the origami board was around from the start, I doubt it had a large community even in 4chan's death, but I recon it gained more people just from users touring boards they've never visited before and got interested in the hobby.
Kissu isn't big enough for new boards but maybe down the line in the future it might slowly get populated. It could be worth experimenting with and just adding a new board for some random topic, nobody on kissu "mains" a single board so its not like it'll just be a ghost town board.

Actually now that I'm writing the fact that you don't really stick to one board on kissu, never mind making a new board would be weird. I generally always have the /all/ tab open and can't even tell which board most of the threads I open belong to. then again I never post threads myself. I don't know.


i don't know.

 No.13393

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I'm a newfag who just started posting like a couple days ago, but I'm gonna give my unwanted opinion that I would like a /bant/ board, just because I like this site's users and always wanted a new /bant/.
Altho board bloat does suck and I don't think the current boards are too fast at all.

 No.13394

>>13393
There's no anime girl in this photo

 No.13395

>>13393
What would differentiate a hypothetical new /bant/ from a preexisting random board, apart from flags (which are gay as fuck)?

 No.13396

Id say leave the new board topics to wapchan since it's clear they're a lot more comfortable with adding/removing boards (both historically and especially now)

 No.13397

I removed flags from the kissu software so that's never happening

 No.13398

>>13396
Probably, I'm just theorizing now how to kill&replace the video games and seasonal anime thread without people caring. And it's not working.

 No.13399

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I think you guys should wait and see if the traffic is going to stick, like if 4chan doesn't come back in a month.
I'm content with the boards that exist now though.

 No.13400

>>13381
I laugh every time a newfag posts a /qa/ thread on /b/, but it really does highlight how unintuitive the naming is here. I don't know exactly how we'd want to name things in a reorganization, but my idea would be to keep boards really broad to account for this >>13382
and do something like:
/media/ - for discussions of anime, vidya, maybe tv/film/lit/etc. too. Medium lifespan threads intended for semi-serious and active discussion of specific pieces of media or elements of them.
/srsbsns/ - the other stuff on /qa/. Longer lifespan threads intended for serious, well thought-out discussions of basically anything.
/funposting/ - pretty much just /jp/ but without the 2d or Japanese stipulations. Or keep those stipulations and keep using /seasonal/ for the 3D/random stuff.

>>13388
That's what it should be for, but any site that doesn't get 4chan levels of traffic has it linger and turn into a "post here instead of making a new thread for these" thread.

>>13389
> the feeling of low engagement if they post outside of it
Personally, I hide the thread and blame low engagement in other vidya threads specifically on it stealing away activity. I know there are conversations in it that I like to talk about (e.g. there was an EU4 talk once that I enjoyed and would have like to keep going) but I just can't deal with the format.

 No.13401

>>13400
Don't think we'll rename /qa/ or /jp/, those are too culturally important to change. But on the hypothetical future /media/ board I was thinking of just naming it "/av/ - Audiovisual media" which could pretty easily signify the main topics through the two letters and encompass whatever we could want on it. I will consider, for future seasons since it's too late now, locking the seasonal thread after stuff starts airing.

 No.13402

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It would probably be impractical and a bad idea and destroying the real purpose of the boards so I'm not suggesting it for real (unless?), but I kinda liked the idea of using the seasonal boards for seasonal things. It makes sense.
It would make the boards current purpose obsolete though and I'm not sure how well airing times match with official weather seasons.

 No.13403

Also it would be super confusing to newcomers, but they should really just learn to read or we should have a sticky that tells people what to do. It hasn't really been an issue with few newcomers on a regular basis, but lately it makes sense that people are confused with /jp/ and /qa/ and there not being any immediate and obvious mention anywhere on what distinguishes them.

 No.13404

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>>13395
On 4chan it had IDs and didn't permit porn dumps. Those are the only technical differences from a traditional /b/ random board.
Compared to the current random boards on this site, it would permit more non-anime images, and probably have more lax moderation, but not as much as 4chan's. It should still ban things like soyjaks and pepe spam, which the original /bant/ jannies never took care of, and probably serious political posts as well.

Beyond the technical aspects, some of the usual types of posts in /bant/ are shitposts, recurring copypasta threads, good amount of OC, board mascots, conversational threads with blogposting and discussion, playing games like 100% Orange Juice, banter: some country banter, some personal banter, no real flamewars; comfiness, but not too forced through moderation, moreso by the users' respect for the board and their boardmates. But like I said I think some more moderation than 4chan's would do it well. Sometimes posters share photos of interesting stuff they're doing, one namefag shared photos of his urban exploration shenanigans. Many posters attach anime and touhou images to their posts like in a 2D/Random board, but not all of them. The board is small enough that regular posters get to recognize each other by their flags, typing styles, and images. This might turn some people off (gets called Discord) but interest others who find that fun.

>>13397
add dem back

I don't expect this to ever happen just putting the idea out there, maybe someone else will get inspired to make a new /bant/ altchan I dunno. There's an existing one but it isn't really much like old /bant/ and has a different sort of population. Kissu's would probably be the best to recreate old /bant/. It was often compared to old /qa/ but with a touch of old /b/ for its love for OC, and [s4s] for its interspersed shitposts.

I also just wanted to reminisce sorry.

>>13394
wtf it's blank

 No.13405

I could’ve sworn I remembered /bant/ embracing the “weeb war” back when it first came into being, but maybe that subsided later.

 No.13406

Are any new boards are needed at all? The open-ended way things are set-up mostly covers everything and the focus on 2D is a good thing, because it keeps certain types of subjects to a minimum.

it might be a little unintuitive for newfriends, but I think that's fine.

 No.13410

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>>13405
There was a bit of it from one guy named Chicanon who called anime posters "an*mefags" (with the asterisk) who was kinda annoying and it was basically spam, which in my opinion should be deleted. I don't think most of the posters liked him. Generally, recurring threads should be allowed if they aren't too obnoxious, but people who constantly reply to others annoyingly should be banned. He once accidentally replied to a thread that he himself already posted an anime pic in, so Idk if it was some weird persona or what. Keep in mind picrel wasn't what the average /bant/ post read like, just this guy's and this situation happened to be funny.

He eventually stopped posting and I don't remember too much weeb war besides that. Years later after /qa/ got locked, the frogspammers migrated there and brought their mostly one-sided anti-anime war with them. The board was kind of a rotting corpse by that point.

In between, there were several gayposters (who weren't too unabashed or obscene about it), and there were anti-gayposters, most notably the previously mentioned urban explorer namefag Plague Doctor. This stuff was all part of the banter, though. It wasn't a comfy board in the sense something like Sushigirls is, which might ban stuff like that; it was one where the banter was part of the comfiness. One time someone asked a kiwi poster to post his shaved thighs, he did, and the anti-gayposters held a trial alleging him of gay, with the photos as evidence. It was all just good fun and enough that I remember this dumb stuff years later.

 No.13411

>>13377
>auto-pruned
yeah, I think threads should be killed after like 1 month of no replies, unless the board is deliberately extremely slow.

 No.13412

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/jav/ - Japanese Animation & Videogames

 No.13413

>>13377
I agree because I don't like my threads staying up so long, it feels awkward. Sometimes I just want to put something out there for a bit.

 No.13414

>>13400
>/media/ - for discussions of anime, vidya, maybe tv/film/lit/etc
That'd be absolute fucking cancer in the hypothetical case it ever gains any traction.

 No.13415

There's a lot of different topics but making a place for everything spreads things too thin I think. I recognize a benefit to kissu is the sitewide culture is maintained by virtue of no one really maining a single board and nothing is compartmentalized.
If you're gonna make a new board I think it should be something that has demand and that demand won't just vanish in a week or two when there's a place elsewhere that already has a place for it. I'd wait and see a little bit, get people comfortable with posting and if there's any obvious patterns forming that start dominating then it's something to revisit.

Something I was also wondering was if there could be more integration or crosslinking with our friend sites as if they were other boards. If they already have a place setup for it then why not lead there? But I understand maintaining a community here is also important and shipping off users is counterintuitive. However, I think 2D/Random and discussions is a specialization of its own, the existence of other boards on 4chan didn't stop people from posting here. We have fun here.

>>13413
That's by the nature of /poll/ which is where that thread is on and has some of the oldest threads still kicking. I you want a thread that dies fast then put it on /jp/, even things on /qa/ fall off at some point. That said I wouldn't mind your threads staying up so much if it gets used for its original purpose and still has discussion going on.

 No.13416

>>13412
the j is the secret sauce to make it work

 No.13418

Where is the Pissu /j/ board?

 No.13425

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As others have said, I think we should wait and see for a bit. Currently I don't feel there is any need for more boards, but then again I am pretty much only interested in 2D stuff.

 No.13427

>>13406
>>13425
Really the only problem I have with current boards as it is, is that video game threads are mostly sidelined for the big video game thread.

 No.13431

>>13415
This could work but would probably require a high degree of coordination from the sites since many topics overlap (consider kissu's /jp/, wapchan's /djn/, and hikari3's /jp/ are the same kind of board) so there would need to be some consensus on what sites get what topics

 No.13435

>>13378
what if all videogame threads were moved to /maho/
hear me out
videogames are a /maho/ topic
/maho/ doesnt get much activity and this would make the site more balanced
the board is on the serious side just like /qa/ so no conflict there
and this frees up 20ish threads for splitting up /qa/ generals into individual threads

 No.13436

>>13435
because /maho/ is supposed to be a slow tech board for nerds like vermin

 No.13437

>>13436
Why's it supposed to be slow....

 No.13438

>>13437
it's not I guess but it's slow-er than the rest because nerdposts take a while to write

 No.13439

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>>13377
Hard disagree. Threads like >>>/qa/74491 are evergreen because the concept is so simple they can continually inspire new discussion. Likewise, there are a lot of longer, more thought out threads and posts that see slower, but more meaningful activity. Deride them as generals, or what have you, but I would rather 100 threads of continual usage than the catalog continually overturning with retreads of the same discussion. At its core, this is the divide between /qa/ and /jp/ -- and, frankly, it's a good one.

 No.13441

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>>13404
>Compared to the current random boards on this site, it would permit more non-anime images, and probably have more lax moderation, but not as much as 4chan's. It should still ban things like soyjaks and pepe spam, which the original /bant/ jannies never took care of, and probably serious political posts as well.
We actually have this board, but it's a secret! tehe pero

That said, personally, I'm very sympathetic to the idea of a random board (that's not a secret), that allows posts that don't fit into the traditional Kissu mold (provided they're not terribad stuff we don't want to encourage). /qa/ has a historic tie to [s4s], and I personally would like them to see a home on Kissu.

Call it... [sks] - Shit Kissu Says. Or maybe [kiss] ?

That said, I have a lot of antipathy for the /intpol9k/ blob. Flags is kind of a non-starter because the culture of Kissu is decidedly against the sort of cynicism and ironic shitposting (note: not funposting, but purposely badposting) that flags tend to attract as baggage.

 No.13442

>>13439
That's a terrible example because nothing in the thread is related to anything else, it's just a bunch of random posts piled together to subvert the principle of thread death that imageboards are based upon. You would get more visibility if you made the contents into their own threads and let them compete with each other, but you're a coward who doesn't think his ideas have enough merit to stand on their own.

 No.13443

We should make flags but do it for fake cute (cute!) countries and assign them by something other than IRL country of course

 No.13444

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>>13442
>you're a coward who doesn't think his ideas have enough merit to stand on their own.
You should know better than anyone that I stand up for my ideas on a semi-regular basis...

 No.13445

>>13443
Japanese prefectures only.
Kanji captcha.
Final destination.

 No.13446

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I vote no new boards. Consider closing boards instead. Users should feel comfortable making hyper particular threads perhaps newcomers need to be told that it's okay to do so. /all/ makes board delineations somewhat unnecessary as it is. The confusion around /jp/ and /qa/ reminded me of this old post.

 No.13447

Kissu, for me, ls /all/.
There's a trend in posting serious stuff in /qa/, and funposting in /jp/, tech in /maho/, etc, but they all blend together so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if a post I thought was /qa/ was actually /maho/ and vice-versa.
I'm of two different opinions...
On one hand, I'm in favor of having multiple boards; number of max posts that exist in the website increases. Especially with the increase in posts lately, a lot of threads have been getting pushed out quite fast. But that can just be solved with increasing the limit for the current boards.
On the other hand, seeing the trend of new users, as well as the trend that exists/existed in 4chan, they would probably not leave the board they were in in 4chan, if created. As anon said in >>13382, they wouldn't be kissu, but kissu/board/.

 No.13448

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This is the current state of Kissu.

Since >>12607 (and post-4chan death):
- /jp/ has seen a massive increase in Touhou posts, crowding out the seasonal anime posts
- /qa/ has seen a massive increase in meta discussion (largely contained within 2 threads)
- /ec/ & /megu/ have seen a moderate increase in usage

Pain points:
From what I have casually observed over the past week, newcomers have been left with the impression that Kissu is lacking in seasonal anime discussion because the touhou posters are so much more prolific. In terms of the historical usage of the board, this is an aberration. Seasonal anime threads have always made up a significant proportion of the threads on /jp/ at any given time, but looking at the catalog right now... They're definitely under-represented. Maybe ~5 out of the last 30 or so, most of those being made just recently.

There has also been a lot of demand for a video games board, and questions on where video games exactly fall in on Kissu, since it's not immediately clear.

Going off of >>>/poll/6137, which we can now use for reference; /a/ > /v/ ≈ /jp/ > /g/.
/jp/ and /g/ currently have clearly defined boards where posters can seamlessly integrate into Kissu (/jp/ and /maho/, respectively), but /a/ and /v/ essentially only have overcrowded generals on /qa/ at the moment.

Conclusions:
Personally, I think we should create new board(s). Call it /av/ or otherwise. There's not really much harm that can come from creating new boards at this point. If 4chan comes back, and activity falls off again, the posts that might have been made on a hypothetical /a/ or /v/, could just be moved back onto /qa/ or /jp/ respectively in the same way that tech threads were moved onto /maho/ to populate the board, but in reverse.

I don't think there's much risk of "cultural contamination", as >>13382 or >>13447 suggest could happen. In aggregate, the posters most dissimilar from Kissu, broadly speaking, are those that come from /v/, but the /a/, /jp/, and Kissu natives easily outnumber them. At this point, the "tide" of new posters also seems to have basically leveled off. I don't think creating a /v/ board is now going to suddenly attract posters who haven't heard of Kissu, but are looking for a /v/ board.

P.S.:
I would still be fond of creating an [s4s]- or /bant/-style board, as I mentioned here >>13441. /secret/ basically fills that role already, and even has regular mod intervention with custom CSS, but it's unlisted. Assuming the name is unique ([sks] or [kiss], for example), I think the risk of attracting undesirable posters who would use that board alone is minimal. Listing /secret/ and renaming it would be dramatic, but I don't think there's ever going to be a better time than now to do it unless /secret/ is to forever remain an unlisted board. That said, I think if the board is listed, it should remain disabled by default on /all/.

 No.13449

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Oh, also, I think noko should be enabled to ease the transition for new posters. Personally, I would rather it off, but I think right now it's more important to keep user retention up by not having any discomfort in posting. Users are fickle and noko/nonoko could mean the difference between heading for Kissu or Smug, for example. Dogma and purity of posters should be a secondary concern to growing userbase. New posters are a rarity and can be assimilated over time.

 No.13450

>>13449
It already is.

 No.13451

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>>13448
I like /av/ because it fits into my general idea of alleviating megathread generals and it seems like a few other people have corroborated the idea so I'm far more open to it now.

 No.13455

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>>13448
Dang, that's a pretty good analysis and the points seem sound. Also the image is cool!
Huh. Yeah, this sounds very convincing.
I don't like the name /av/ though.

 No.13456

>>13455
name a funnier name that fits perfectly

 No.13457

I like the /jav/ idea I saw someone come up with (Japanese Animation and Video Games), because if /av/ is restricted to only japanese cartoons why not only japanese games as well?

 No.13459

>>13450
On /qa/, yes... I was mostly referring to any new boards, but also /maho/ and others. The touhou posters on /jp/ seems to understand sage, so I think nonoko is fine there.

/b/ doesn't have it, but I think that's fine. I don't know about others, but I basically only use it to post about issues I have and then forget the board exists for months at a time until a meta thread appears like this one. sigh

 No.13460

>>13457
maybe, certainly wouldn't allow for much corruption

 No.13461

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/m/ for multimedia

 No.13462

>>13461
with that, we will conclusively attain the worst naming conventions in all of imageboard history

 No.13463


 No.13464

>>13463
/masketta men/

 No.13465

>>13451
>>13455
I would prefer separating anime and video games. Lumping them together into /av/ doesn't really make sense to me. If we want to get away from "/v/", I would propose /geimu/ - Video Games. Makes about as much sense as /maho/. Is /a/ fine?... I dunno. To steal one from Ota, /om/ - Otaku Media for anime and manga and vns and whatever else, I guess? Maybe that's not a clear title though...

 No.13466

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>>13463
/mensch maschine/ - German Mecha

 No.13467

>>13448
A temporary sticky explaining that /jp/ is not just a touhou board and that /qa/ can be a touhou board as well should suffice. Add more pages.

 No.13468

>>13467
I think most people got the idea already

 No.13469

>>13365
I wouldn't mind an /a/ board

 No.13470

>>13467
The issue is speed and visibility, not where to post... If users can't find what they want, they're probably not going to post. That's the whole point of a new board.

 No.13471

>>13470
Actually it’s to kill generals because I’m a professional general hater

 No.13472

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>>13465
If this happens, they need to be together because the point was freeing up existing subjects instead of isolating one of them from all the others. I still don't know about this, though, does this mean serious threads would go on this hypothetical /av/ board and I can still make dumb anime threads on /jp/? Touhou stuff shouldn't exist in isolation.

 No.13473

>>13472
That’s the main concern I thought of in my last super serious post >>13389
Don’t really feel like it’s been addressed

 No.13474

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>>13471
That works too...

>>13472
>does this mean serious threads would go on this hypothetical /av/ board and I can still make dumb anime threads on /jp/?
Yes. /jp/ is still 2D/Random

>they need to be together because the point was freeing up existing subjects instead of isolating one of them from all the others.
What does this achieve that /all/ doesn't already? Purely from the perspective of organization, /av/ doesn't make sense unless it's a general containment zone sharing the space of one board instead of two true boards. For what?... To make it look more active? I don't get it. Again, if the issue is "contamination", I don't think that's an issue. Pure /v/ posters would constitute a minority going by >>>/poll/6137.

And... Well... That's the exact issue already occuring on /jp/ where anime discussion is the minority. Lumping them together, if anything would just lead to confusion over whether only anime-adjacent game discussion is allowed, and I think there's only so much that can be said about Koikatsu (´。• ω •。`)

>>13473
Re: >>13388 >>13389. I still think the issue is just speed and visibility. Hypothetically, if seasonal anime discussion proves slower than touhou posting such that the only way it could survive is via making general threads on /jp/ or by shuffling them onto the slower /qa/, I think that's a recipe for a failed policy. On an /a/ board they wouldn't be fighting for visibility on the front page; activity could be spread out, without needing generals to survive.

 No.13475

>>13474
>What does this achieve that /all/ doesn't already?

I mean we shouldn't do an /a/ and a /v/ but rather /av/.

 No.13476

>>13475
Why not? I've yet to see or hear any case made for /av/ over /a/ + /v/ other than that's just how it is.

 No.13477

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>>13476
Transforming kissu from a place with shared random-ish boards into one with subjects to coral people into specific locations is a pretty major change. At least /av/ would force anime and video game people to share one space.

 No.13478

>>13439
That's like sadpandas general chat threads that exist merely to drive post numbers but I don't get any mod power on kissu for pissing into the ether.

 No.13482

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>>13477
That was basically my point with /maho/, but we've crossed that bridge...

 No.13483

>>13482
needed to see if there was a way kissu would get me off of /chat/

 No.13485

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>>13412
+1 to /jav/ if we do make a new board. Goes well with the "name doesn't really explain the board" scheme we've got going on here.

 No.13486

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Name it /mvc/ for modern visual culture. (or /gsb/ for gendai shikaku bunka)

 No.13487

>>13486
kissu is the /gsb/

 No.13489

/gae/ - Games, Anime, and Entertainment

 No.13490

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I think we could have at least one board with a nice naming scheme...
So if it did happen I'd go with either /jav/ or /av/. I can't decide whether the j would make the board too redundant or not.

 No.13491

>>13490
I think /jav/ is too on the nose and creates confusion about whether western games are allowed (they should be). /av/ is the happy accident of mashing together two normal board names.

 No.13492

>>13491
/jav/ is confusing because it just makes me think of porn

 No.13493

>>13492
I though that was the point. It's a troll naming scheme.

 No.13494

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>>13493
I didn't pay attention to the reply chain...

 No.13495

I think that we are seriously planning to make adjustments to structure of the site.

He's not really seeing his idea through properly and trying to continuously poll so he doesn't think people will hate him for his idea, but being hated is a regular occurrence for me so I'm going behind his back a bit right now by saying this fits some goals I've had that are better for the site.

One is to deal with how unstructured our /qa/ board has become in light of our changes over the years with new boards
Two is to deal with how we've slowly digressed into becoming an IRC channel with a few threads because we've just been taking an easy route. Removing some of our threads and moving some things around, even if it is a pain for the users now will end up being a long term benefit
Third is that more rigid structure makes it easier to integrate into the site.

I think we're going to have a token /poll/ about it, but I'm interested in seeing the idea through to whatever outcome it produces because I feel as if our site is really disorganized to no ones benefit.
Basically we've outlined the failure condition as we kill our site.

 No.13496

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 No.13497

So a few people have already mentioned how most people just use /all/ making the distinction between current boards mainly a formality that affects things like how long it takes for a thread to die, and not the actual browsing experience. To me, this is a good thing, as I believe the entire site should be one cohesive community instead of different communities gated into their own boards. I think the latter should be left to generalist imageboards like 4shit (RIP in piss) and 8gag, and imageboards like kissu should strive to cultivate a userbase united by a common framework of culture and interests. (Which is NOT the same as saying that any topics that diverge from that framework shouldn't be allowed.)

Do you agree with this?

 No.13498

>>13444
I don't have the kind of autism that lets me tell anonymous posters apart unless there's a particular brand of shitposting that comes out in every post, so I really don't. It's just a frustration with the kinds of people who refuse to make new threads for things that absolutely could be one.

 No.13499

>>13497
How it is right now is the way I like it for sure. At the same time I don't see using anything other than /all/ regardless of what boards you guys add because you're essentially categorizing what's already there or adding something that's adjacent to the site anyway, not introducing something I couldn't care about or wouldn't want to see. Unless I'm totally out of the loop here.
To me it all boils down to /all/ essentially since that's how I use the site. Whatever is on there is the site for me. It's probably the case for basically everyone right now.
That might change as you start adding more and more boards and some people might only frequent that one particular board. Maybe they'll grow so out of sync that I wouldn't want anything to do with them but I don't see that happening as long as you care for the site.

 No.13500

>>13499
spoken like a "not a thread creator"

 No.13501

>>13500
Ultimately it doesn't matter much where you make it if you use /all/ anyway.

 No.13502

>>13497
Yeah, I do want it to be one community and I think the big generals are the biggest threat to that at present.

I basically agree with what V said and think this is a good opportunity to shift things around and move to a wider range of more accessible threads so people can easily be exposed to and engage with all the different topics that the community engages with. Having disorganized spaces isn't a bad thing when you're a small community, but when users are having difficulty finding the right place to put things a little more order is needed. I think a broad topic and /all/ will keep the community together while still promoting more threads about topics we've been weak about covering in the past. Worst case, we see things moving in the wrong direction and delete /maho/.

>>13500
Also, this. Board delineation is important for thread creation even if it's not all that important to the average browsing experience.

 No.13510

>OP must start a conversation and should make a thread with the expectation of supporting the thread for a period of time.
I am happy to see this rule and hope it is strongly encouraged/enforced since I think that's the main way to stop a culture of generals cropping up.




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