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 No.13365[View All]

Not going to poll this one because that inspires people to actually post instead of talk things out. Right now we've got most all activity covered by two random boards, with /qa/ intended for longer lasting conversation and /jp/ intended more for funposting.

Over the past week we've sustained a fairly large increase to activity, which has been great, but has also led to a good bit of moving through threads on individual boards quite fast (at least an entire catalog page of movement a day!). For myself, I find this kind of fun and interesting in that it inspires digging through the boards more to find what you're looking for and from there possibly discovering an interesting thread you missed and can respond to which feeds into keeping conversation alive over time. But maybe others don't agree with that mindset and for that I'd be willing to hear out anyone's reasons for and what kind of boards people may want added. This isn't a guarantee anything actually happens if somebody post "yea I want X board", it's an opportunity for people to make a good case for why we should change our minds about adding more boards.

On the topic of what boards to add, I'm not necessarily so certain that we'd be doing good to create a /v/ or /a/ just for refugees to try and capitalize on 4chan's downtime since it feels like a recipe for saying "Here's your temporary place until 4chan's back up!" and then dying as soon as your time in the spotlight's up. If we make something I'd rather it be for a legitimate reason that could serve an actual purpose long-term assuming some traffic stays post-4chan. Not to say it can't be contested, just I think I'd be far less likely to consider it.
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 No.13445

>>13443
Japanese prefectures only.
Kanji captcha.
Final destination.

 No.13446

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I vote no new boards. Consider closing boards instead. Users should feel comfortable making hyper particular threads perhaps newcomers need to be told that it's okay to do so. /all/ makes board delineations somewhat unnecessary as it is. The confusion around /jp/ and /qa/ reminded me of this old post.

 No.13447

Kissu, for me, ls /all/.
There's a trend in posting serious stuff in /qa/, and funposting in /jp/, tech in /maho/, etc, but they all blend together so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if a post I thought was /qa/ was actually /maho/ and vice-versa.
I'm of two different opinions...
On one hand, I'm in favor of having multiple boards; number of max posts that exist in the website increases. Especially with the increase in posts lately, a lot of threads have been getting pushed out quite fast. But that can just be solved with increasing the limit for the current boards.
On the other hand, seeing the trend of new users, as well as the trend that exists/existed in 4chan, they would probably not leave the board they were in in 4chan, if created. As anon said in >>13382, they wouldn't be kissu, but kissu/board/.

 No.13448

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This is the current state of Kissu.

Since >>12607 (and post-4chan death):
- /jp/ has seen a massive increase in Touhou posts, crowding out the seasonal anime posts
- /qa/ has seen a massive increase in meta discussion (largely contained within 2 threads)
- /ec/ & /megu/ have seen a moderate increase in usage

Pain points:
From what I have casually observed over the past week, newcomers have been left with the impression that Kissu is lacking in seasonal anime discussion because the touhou posters are so much more prolific. In terms of the historical usage of the board, this is an aberration. Seasonal anime threads have always made up a significant proportion of the threads on /jp/ at any given time, but looking at the catalog right now... They're definitely under-represented. Maybe ~5 out of the last 30 or so, most of those being made just recently.

There has also been a lot of demand for a video games board, and questions on where video games exactly fall in on Kissu, since it's not immediately clear.

Going off of >>>/poll/6137, which we can now use for reference; /a/ > /v/ ≈ /jp/ > /g/.
/jp/ and /g/ currently have clearly defined boards where posters can seamlessly integrate into Kissu (/jp/ and /maho/, respectively), but /a/ and /v/ essentially only have overcrowded generals on /qa/ at the moment.

Conclusions:
Personally, I think we should create new board(s). Call it /av/ or otherwise. There's not really much harm that can come from creating new boards at this point. If 4chan comes back, and activity falls off again, the posts that might have been made on a hypothetical /a/ or /v/, could just be moved back onto /qa/ or /jp/ respectively in the same way that tech threads were moved onto /maho/ to populate the board, but in reverse.

I don't think there's much risk of "cultural contamination", as >>13382 or >>13447 suggest could happen. In aggregate, the posters most dissimilar from Kissu, broadly speaking, are those that come from /v/, but the /a/, /jp/, and Kissu natives easily outnumber them. At this point, the "tide" of new posters also seems to have basically leveled off. I don't think creating a /v/ board is now going to suddenly attract posters who haven't heard of Kissu, but are looking for a /v/ board.

P.S.:
I would still be fond of creating an [s4s]- or /bant/-style board, as I mentioned here >>13441. /secret/ basically fills that role already, and even has regular mod intervention with custom CSS, but it's unlisted. Assuming the name is unique ([sks] or [kiss], for example), I think the risk of attracting undesirable posters who would use that board alone is minimal. Listing /secret/ and renaming it would be dramatic, but I don't think there's ever going to be a better time than now to do it unless /secret/ is to forever remain an unlisted board. That said, I think if the board is listed, it should remain disabled by default on /all/.

 No.13449

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Oh, also, I think noko should be enabled to ease the transition for new posters. Personally, I would rather it off, but I think right now it's more important to keep user retention up by not having any discomfort in posting. Users are fickle and noko/nonoko could mean the difference between heading for Kissu or Smug, for example. Dogma and purity of posters should be a secondary concern to growing userbase. New posters are a rarity and can be assimilated over time.

 No.13450

>>13449
It already is.

 No.13451

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>>13448
I like /av/ because it fits into my general idea of alleviating megathread generals and it seems like a few other people have corroborated the idea so I'm far more open to it now.

 No.13455

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>>13448
Dang, that's a pretty good analysis and the points seem sound. Also the image is cool!
Huh. Yeah, this sounds very convincing.
I don't like the name /av/ though.

 No.13456

>>13455
name a funnier name that fits perfectly

 No.13457

I like the /jav/ idea I saw someone come up with (Japanese Animation and Video Games), because if /av/ is restricted to only japanese cartoons why not only japanese games as well?

 No.13459

>>13450
On /qa/, yes... I was mostly referring to any new boards, but also /maho/ and others. The touhou posters on /jp/ seems to understand sage, so I think nonoko is fine there.

/b/ doesn't have it, but I think that's fine. I don't know about others, but I basically only use it to post about issues I have and then forget the board exists for months at a time until a meta thread appears like this one. sigh

 No.13460

>>13457
maybe, certainly wouldn't allow for much corruption

 No.13461

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/m/ for multimedia

 No.13462

>>13461
with that, we will conclusively attain the worst naming conventions in all of imageboard history

 No.13463


 No.13464

>>13463
/masketta men/

 No.13465

>>13451
>>13455
I would prefer separating anime and video games. Lumping them together into /av/ doesn't really make sense to me. If we want to get away from "/v/", I would propose /geimu/ - Video Games. Makes about as much sense as /maho/. Is /a/ fine?... I dunno. To steal one from Ota, /om/ - Otaku Media for anime and manga and vns and whatever else, I guess? Maybe that's not a clear title though...

 No.13466

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>>13463
/mensch maschine/ - German Mecha

 No.13467

>>13448
A temporary sticky explaining that /jp/ is not just a touhou board and that /qa/ can be a touhou board as well should suffice. Add more pages.

 No.13468

>>13467
I think most people got the idea already

 No.13469

>>13365
I wouldn't mind an /a/ board

 No.13470

>>13467
The issue is speed and visibility, not where to post... If users can't find what they want, they're probably not going to post. That's the whole point of a new board.

 No.13471

>>13470
Actually it’s to kill generals because I’m a professional general hater

 No.13472

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>>13465
If this happens, they need to be together because the point was freeing up existing subjects instead of isolating one of them from all the others. I still don't know about this, though, does this mean serious threads would go on this hypothetical /av/ board and I can still make dumb anime threads on /jp/? Touhou stuff shouldn't exist in isolation.

 No.13473

>>13472
That’s the main concern I thought of in my last super serious post >>13389
Don’t really feel like it’s been addressed

 No.13474

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>>13471
That works too...

>>13472
>does this mean serious threads would go on this hypothetical /av/ board and I can still make dumb anime threads on /jp/?
Yes. /jp/ is still 2D/Random

>they need to be together because the point was freeing up existing subjects instead of isolating one of them from all the others.
What does this achieve that /all/ doesn't already? Purely from the perspective of organization, /av/ doesn't make sense unless it's a general containment zone sharing the space of one board instead of two true boards. For what?... To make it look more active? I don't get it. Again, if the issue is "contamination", I don't think that's an issue. Pure /v/ posters would constitute a minority going by >>>/poll/6137.

And... Well... That's the exact issue already occuring on /jp/ where anime discussion is the minority. Lumping them together, if anything would just lead to confusion over whether only anime-adjacent game discussion is allowed, and I think there's only so much that can be said about Koikatsu (´。• ω •。`)

>>13473
Re: >>13388 >>13389. I still think the issue is just speed and visibility. Hypothetically, if seasonal anime discussion proves slower than touhou posting such that the only way it could survive is via making general threads on /jp/ or by shuffling them onto the slower /qa/, I think that's a recipe for a failed policy. On an /a/ board they wouldn't be fighting for visibility on the front page; activity could be spread out, without needing generals to survive.

 No.13475

>>13474
>What does this achieve that /all/ doesn't already?

I mean we shouldn't do an /a/ and a /v/ but rather /av/.

 No.13476

>>13475
Why not? I've yet to see or hear any case made for /av/ over /a/ + /v/ other than that's just how it is.

 No.13477

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>>13476
Transforming kissu from a place with shared random-ish boards into one with subjects to coral people into specific locations is a pretty major change. At least /av/ would force anime and video game people to share one space.

 No.13478

>>13439
That's like sadpandas general chat threads that exist merely to drive post numbers but I don't get any mod power on kissu for pissing into the ether.

 No.13482

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>>13477
That was basically my point with /maho/, but we've crossed that bridge...

 No.13483

>>13482
needed to see if there was a way kissu would get me off of /chat/

 No.13485

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>>13412
+1 to /jav/ if we do make a new board. Goes well with the "name doesn't really explain the board" scheme we've got going on here.

 No.13486

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Name it /mvc/ for modern visual culture. (or /gsb/ for gendai shikaku bunka)

 No.13487

>>13486
kissu is the /gsb/

 No.13489

/gae/ - Games, Anime, and Entertainment

 No.13490

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I think we could have at least one board with a nice naming scheme...
So if it did happen I'd go with either /jav/ or /av/. I can't decide whether the j would make the board too redundant or not.

 No.13491

>>13490
I think /jav/ is too on the nose and creates confusion about whether western games are allowed (they should be). /av/ is the happy accident of mashing together two normal board names.

 No.13492

>>13491
/jav/ is confusing because it just makes me think of porn

 No.13493

>>13492
I though that was the point. It's a troll naming scheme.

 No.13494

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>>13493
I didn't pay attention to the reply chain...

 No.13495

I think that we are seriously planning to make adjustments to structure of the site.

He's not really seeing his idea through properly and trying to continuously poll so he doesn't think people will hate him for his idea, but being hated is a regular occurrence for me so I'm going behind his back a bit right now by saying this fits some goals I've had that are better for the site.

One is to deal with how unstructured our /qa/ board has become in light of our changes over the years with new boards
Two is to deal with how we've slowly digressed into becoming an IRC channel with a few threads because we've just been taking an easy route. Removing some of our threads and moving some things around, even if it is a pain for the users now will end up being a long term benefit
Third is that more rigid structure makes it easier to integrate into the site.

I think we're going to have a token /poll/ about it, but I'm interested in seeing the idea through to whatever outcome it produces because I feel as if our site is really disorganized to no ones benefit.
Basically we've outlined the failure condition as we kill our site.

 No.13496

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 No.13497

So a few people have already mentioned how most people just use /all/ making the distinction between current boards mainly a formality that affects things like how long it takes for a thread to die, and not the actual browsing experience. To me, this is a good thing, as I believe the entire site should be one cohesive community instead of different communities gated into their own boards. I think the latter should be left to generalist imageboards like 4shit (RIP in piss) and 8gag, and imageboards like kissu should strive to cultivate a userbase united by a common framework of culture and interests. (Which is NOT the same as saying that any topics that diverge from that framework shouldn't be allowed.)

Do you agree with this?

 No.13498

>>13444
I don't have the kind of autism that lets me tell anonymous posters apart unless there's a particular brand of shitposting that comes out in every post, so I really don't. It's just a frustration with the kinds of people who refuse to make new threads for things that absolutely could be one.

 No.13499

>>13497
How it is right now is the way I like it for sure. At the same time I don't see using anything other than /all/ regardless of what boards you guys add because you're essentially categorizing what's already there or adding something that's adjacent to the site anyway, not introducing something I couldn't care about or wouldn't want to see. Unless I'm totally out of the loop here.
To me it all boils down to /all/ essentially since that's how I use the site. Whatever is on there is the site for me. It's probably the case for basically everyone right now.
That might change as you start adding more and more boards and some people might only frequent that one particular board. Maybe they'll grow so out of sync that I wouldn't want anything to do with them but I don't see that happening as long as you care for the site.

 No.13500

>>13499
spoken like a "not a thread creator"

 No.13501

>>13500
Ultimately it doesn't matter much where you make it if you use /all/ anyway.

 No.13502

>>13497
Yeah, I do want it to be one community and I think the big generals are the biggest threat to that at present.

I basically agree with what V said and think this is a good opportunity to shift things around and move to a wider range of more accessible threads so people can easily be exposed to and engage with all the different topics that the community engages with. Having disorganized spaces isn't a bad thing when you're a small community, but when users are having difficulty finding the right place to put things a little more order is needed. I think a broad topic and /all/ will keep the community together while still promoting more threads about topics we've been weak about covering in the past. Worst case, we see things moving in the wrong direction and delete /maho/.

>>13500
Also, this. Board delineation is important for thread creation even if it's not all that important to the average browsing experience.

 No.13510

>OP must start a conversation and should make a thread with the expectation of supporting the thread for a period of time.
I am happy to see this rule and hope it is strongly encouraged/enforced since I think that's the main way to stop a culture of generals cropping up.




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