No.144551
A few months ago I was talking about altchans on /a/ and realized a big stumbling block for people is that the lists of sites that get posted around contain too many sites with not enough details and people tend to give up after the fifth or sixth utterly dead/meme shitposting site they click through. I'm hitting myself for being lazy and not making a better guide before this, but with 4chan still down I imagine it would still be good to have something easy to pass around to help the flood of refugees as we approach the weekend.
I tried to cover the issues I've seen people be most interested in across the various 4chan down threads. Activity, especially in regards to specific hobbies, is probably the biggest, but a familiar UI, easy browsing of different boards/sites, and file support have all come up. I focused mostly on relevant topics to the /a/jp/ sphere here since that's what I'm more familiar with, but I'm open to suggestions on what to put in here. I think zzz, 8, 7, and sushi could fit on here too for vidya and broader topic selections. Please correct me if anything is wrong, a fair bit has to be derived from cursory inspection.
Regarding activity levels, I'm imagining 4chan as the 10/10 max level for everything so it's kind of a log scale so everything else isn't all a 1 in comparison. Basically, green means there's fresh discussion of a topic multiple times a day, yellow means once every day or three something gets kicked up about it, and red means it still lacks the critical mass to maintain regular discussion.
No.144555
>>144551Good post.
Would be neat to see this layout applied to more altchans with perhaps a short writeup on each one's focus.
No.144556
>>144551wapchan's japanese culture would be part of /vnt/ (it's where the old touhou board was merged into)
No.144557
smug's /a/ still feels a bit slow to be green, if we're considering 4chan to be 10, but I'll accept it. they've definitely benefited from 4chan dying during the start of the new season
No.144566
>>144551Wapchan's /lum/ would technically fit in anime (modern and retro) and manga, and manga itself just goes in the anime boards, not really /media/ (that's for western comics)
No.144568
>>144551Also /kind/ on wapchan is kinda imageboard culture
No.144584
Hm, also it's kind of strange but we technically have emotes if you stretch our markup system a bit
No.144587
[s markup|background:url(https://haiji.kissu.moe/test/src/1744857994681.gif);display:inline-block;padding:34px_40px;background-size:contain] [/s]
If you use this you can post images inline
No.144593
>>144567I think that using shades of blue or something would be better for the chart.
Using red, green, and yellow kinda implies certain things about quality
No.144611
>>144584Hmmm... That's a bit big, don't you think?
No.144646
It's a lot of work to line up the size so it doesn't repeat... too much work in fact
No.144672
>>144562I meant it as "4chan's default style" for people who want to feel back home. I was just stupid and forgot to actually check what options the old UI had.
>>144566As far as I can tell it's for Urusai only so it's not what someone looking for "anime discussion" is going to want. I don't think I saw any manga threads on the other anime boards, but it does make sense that's where they technically go.
>>144567>It feeds into the "it's too slow, I'm not going to post there" vicious circle.It is a really important factor. Hearing "this site has a /v/ board" then going there and finding the last post was three weeks ago is what really turns people off altchans. I will grant that the coloring could be better since some people genuinely prefer smaller communities. I also don't like marking some things like not having user-boards as red when I think that's a good thing, I just couldn't think of a better color and making everything white is
boring.
Maybe reversing it and doing a speedometer reaching for blazing fast gaymer red could work. Would need better gradients to look good though.
>>144584Only like two people on the planet understand how to do this wizardry and it has no impact on the day-to-day posting here, but I guess you can revel in your technical superiority.
No.144674
>>1446724 people actually!
No.144715
>>144551I was trying to find the smug loli site when I found smug . moe lol (not gonna link just in case)
No.144749
>>144672>Hearing "this site has a /v/ board" then going there and finding the last post was three weeks ago is what really turns people off altchans.that also goes backwards. I like having threads lasting 3 months when I can have a sincerely, continuous conversation, specially as i'm watching / playing things.
No.144756
The only video game you can possibly do that with is Balatro
No.144869
>>144809sushis... we made it...
No.144896
>>144806would like to point out that hikari3 will be having a 2D Ero board soon, replacing the Oekaki board. it's not implemented yet tho.
No.144933
>>144809I'd rather look at stats from a week ago, the current ones are highly unstable. I'd rather reflect their natural state instead of just where all the 4channers ran to first.
>>144896Neat. I'm excluding recent additions for now, like wap's co and gen, until they're established enough to give semi accurate impressions of them.
No.145184
>>144806calling zzzchan's japanese boards as equivalent to kissu's video game discussion is kinda funny.
No.145343
>>145334/gd/ also allows PDF.
No.145540
>>145334i would dispute the kissu description but that's because i
wish people funposted with more non-otaku stuff, factually it is very much correct
it's looking pretty damn good, greatly appreciated
No.145567
>>145334add:
kohlchan for /int/
sturdychan for sperming
and of course soychan
No.145640
>>145567sturdy removed all of its lew boards
No.145642
>>145640what lewd boards did it have?
No.145643
>>145334Wapchan released their own fork of 4ChanX so new users can just add that and everything's good
No.145646
>>145642Originally it only had /d/ for everything, then it splintered into /d/ + one board for 3D one for 2D
It may have had more after, I can't remember
No.145647
>>145646I ask because I did go to /d/ for one specific thread, and while said thread has an entire altchan on the topic its rather bad.
No.145651
>>145647I wonder what kind of degenerate you are, there were no normal threads there. Not that I'm any better
No.145652
>>145647Could it be Chounyuu?
No.145653
>>145647>I ask because I did go to /d/ for one specific thread, and while said thread has an entire altchan on the topic its rather bad.Was it Pregchan? Because that place is also a mess if it's not.
No.145663
>>145334What about Heyuri?
No.145664
>>145659lol I linked that to a steam friend of mine into fat chicks (I'm not) and he said that I was like the 7th guy to link him that and that it was dogshit.
No.145870
>>145540I use otaku to refer to a wide range of hobbyists, but weeb stuff is currently the central force of the site so the connotation isn't wrong.
>>145567I don't want to include liveposting boards as I feel they deviate too much from what other IBs are. The ones I'm familiar with are also pretty damn specific with their topics so not great replacements anyway. I could be wrong about that, though.
Kohl is a weird case since the English part of the site is just one board, but it was a pretty active part so it might fit in there.
>>145643I'll look into it. The thread watcher covering multiple sites is hugely useful so I appreciate them working on improving it.
>>145663Forgot about them.
No.145880
>>145663You can go there right now and find a photo of a dead baby that's been up since October.
No thanks.
No.145944
>>145567>kohlchanIsn't it infested with actual pedos?
No.146712
>>146695there was an update released to the wapchan version of 4chanX that added back the sites
No.146713
>>146695Heyuri is a genuinely awful site and it shouldn't be included here
https://img.heyuri.net/b/koko.php?res=118542 No.146714
>>146713dead nigs
bottom text
No.146716
>>145944Yeah, I'd be hesitant about listing kohl for that reason and it doesn't really need inclusion since it's popular enough. When asked about it the admin would rather lose 95% of the imageboard audience and keep that stuff around so he stands by isolationism.
No.146992
>>146695The board you list as /stem/ on 7chan is actually called /sci/, STEM is just it's title.
No.147008
The only /tv/ spinoff I know of is tvch.moe
No.147011
>>146713That's what 4chan was like pre-2007 which is what heyuri is aiming for. Some occasional chemo like gore and junior idol gravure keeps the kinds of cancer that killed 4chan (about 15 years ago) at bay. From that image alone one might think heyuri is some /pol/ refuge but it's the exact opposite, there is no /pol/ or /leftypol/ shit allowed at all.
No.147017
Let me spin you a story about Heyuri...
It was started a while ago... a long time ago..
The then admin got an influx of traffic and couldn't handle it. So he partnered with a guy who would later go on to be influential on the soyjak ring.
The long story short is that after some time, this guy... who we wordfilter to " that guy " because he shilled himself so hard with sockpuppets in the happenings thread... doxxed him and his family telling him to quit. And he eventually did and handed it over to his cabal. Well they tried to push the site as the next new thing for oldfags and it never really took off.
There's not much more to the story than that. It's a tryhard project that killed the original admin through harrassment.
They actually did it to a few other sites too that I forget about, but Heyuri was the only one they really managed to take over through 'violence'
No.147018
It's a bit of a conspiracy that this guy aka "that guy" used his own possy to cause heyuri to require more staff so that they could work their way in and take it over... but I'm not a conspiracy theorist
No.147034
>>147017>doxxed him and his family telling him to quitIs there more info/a source for that anywhere?
>>147020He's a janitor on /d/, /int/ and /w/. I never posted on those boards, was the janitorial service particularly bad on any of them?
No.147037
https://wiki.bibanon.org/Yuri_Kuznetsov_(that guy)#Heyuri
I think he modified his own page but it's a good starting point... I'm looking through the happenings archives to find the year it took place and which post numbers it started.
>>147034idk. it's just weird. That's the main thing about it. The 4chan team let him in when they should have been able to vet that he'd the left/righthand man of a notorious imageboard sociopath
No.147039
well, the word filter prevented it, but you can just search his name and find the article
No.147042
>>1448064chan might get rid of PDF's since that's what got the hacker into the site in the first place.
Or they'll finally update it. But be weary of PDF's.
No.147043
>>147042Damn, that's going to hit /tg/ pretty good.
No.147044
>>147043Truthfully, I suspect they'll fix the exploit eventually, but PDF's will be down for a bit. Who the hell knows. I'm in the 4chan IRC and no one is saying anything.
Also neat site. Haven't been here in years but it looks pretty chill.
No.147051
>>147042>>147044Or they could just, I dunno, use a version of Ghostscript from after 2018.
No.147094
>>147037>>147041Neither of those sources say anything bad about heyuri's current staff and neither say that (that guy) doxed lolico, just that there was a gay slapfight between the two 5 years ago.
No.147096
>>147094You have to do a lot of reading between the lines because the person who was faulted didn't write his side of the story and it's only known verbally through a smaller group of people who were communicating on IRC, other imageboards and in the happenings thread.
No.147098
>>146695Wapchan added emotes
No.147104
>>147100Instead of being generic it should all be urusei yatsura themed.
No.147146
>>147100Those are emoji, from the original set used by several Japanese carriers. Heyuri has both emotes and emoji.
No.147162
I like the banksoft emojis and they seem okay for messaging friends, but they are harmful to imageboards. Every imageboard I know of that added emotes just got less pictures and emotes all over the place. It feels like it goes against the purpose of imageboards.
No.147200
>>147146I agree.
It's too low-effort.
No.147201
>>147146>>147200ok? go tell them to remove it then dont complain here
No.147210
I like how this thread is devolving into "let me complain about boards I don't like"
No.147286
>>147205Not to fix the PDF exploit since that will be fixed from just using a later version of Ghostscript.
No.147307
Is there any altchan that has a /tv/ board but also not dead?
No.147308
>>147307is tvch.moe dead?
No.147309
>>147308That's pretty active.
No.147337
>>147162It's fine if you want the site to be a 4chan April Fools funposting fest all the time, but I feel like it cuts off serious discussion and I hate seeing an IB that looks like an IM log. Wap seems to be going through a transformative stage now trying to actively respond to the refugees, though, so we'll have to wait and see what it ends up looking like once the dust has settled.
No.147421
>>147367I was thinking you could add a file size line too, a lot of anons seem to be surprised(?) at the larger file size limits on alternative sites.
Also, kissu has a captcha that activates when "flood is detected".
No.147546
>>147431that's a lot of pussy
No.147558
>>147546It's apparently a bunch of the images from the caturday threads:
https://22chan.org/b/4103/#4535 No.147869
>>147421That's really hard to test other sites for and not part of normal posting.
No.147923
What imageboard do I go on to complain about my life
No.147925
>>147923Tohno-chan depending on what your problems are.
No.147927
>>147926>Last one (>>26312) hit the bump limit.never though i'd laugh so much to this sentence, damn