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 No.36234

Rev up those coal plants because you're not going to have nuclear on short term

 No.36235

coal

 No.36237

The US has some of the cheapest energy in the world and is the largest energy exporter in the world.

There are people that worry about the US power grid though. They think the grid won't keep up with US re industrialisation.

 No.36238

that's cool vermin now why don't you worry about your own country you stupid fucking hasan niggerleaf

 No.36239

>>36238
The economics of the US are quite important to Canada. Canada is pretty much a US state after all. Most Canadian states trade more with the US than they do with other Canadian states.

 No.36240

>>36239
Wow you mean a country that borders another is going to have the most trade with the country they border? Wow really?
Go worry about the fact that your country is being overrun by pakis and streetshitters.

 No.36241

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Andy is the 99% of the voting block

 No.36242

>>36237
>the largest energy exporter in the world.
Who exactly do you think they're exporting energy to.. unless you mean energy resources. The actual power grid supply isn't so straightforward

 No.36243

>AI overview
There's already enough misinformation and other chicanery going on, you don't need to add AI hallucinations of unnamed (biased) sources to it

 No.36244

>>36243
the numbers are right and the actual facts are basic enough and commonly known... recycling aluminum is more efficient than creating
https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/where-does-us-get-its-steel-aluminum-2025-02-10/
https://www.trade.gov/data-visualization/us-aluminum-import-monitor

 No.36245

>>36244
Good. I just really don't like the idea of people using AI for this stuff

 No.36258

>>36240
That's not the surprise. The surprise is that many Canadian states are more integrated into the US economy than they are the Canadian economy.

 No.36259

>>36242
By energy I mean things like oil and gas not electricity.

 No.36269

>>36259
Creating aluminum is expensive. Growth in AI has datacenters wondering about creating local nuclear generators... and now they're going to strap bauxite refinement on top of that... the US needs to put a ton of tax spending into the creation or refurbishing of their older infrastructure.

 No.36270

It's recyclability is very useful. But it's a matter of necessity. Has to be filtered using computer automation or by hand.
"10% of Australia's power grid is aluminum production"

 No.36271

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Frankly it makes no sense... you still have to buy canadian for at least 5 years to make new aluminum smelters and power plants. Shorter if expansions.

 No.36272

>he US needs to put a ton of tax spending into the creation or refurbishing of their older infrastructure.
I guess it's private sector in the US. But the lackadaisical decision making of the US government means people aren't even sure if something is a good investment or not. Only people who can have their risktaking be subsudized are going to do it.

 No.36277

hasan nigger

 No.36284

^

 No.36286

>>36269
It is but the US is the biggest energy producer in the world. So the US is well positioned to do anything energy intensive. They also have parts of the country that are good for Solar and wind.

But yes. They do need to work on infrastructure.

 No.36288

>>36286
they literally built the 5th biggest hydro damn in BC specifically to power aluminum production

 No.36290

>they
i mean WE

 No.36291


 No.36292

>>36290
What was your position?

 No.36293

>>36292
I'm saying not to take it lightly. Canada has lots of hydro which is cheap as hell. Solar and wind don't cut it. And supposedly America is supposed to be getting angry at inflation, so they're going to throw more grid usage into something that could easily be imported for cheap?

 No.36294

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You don't just inconsequentially divert 700MW on a dime from existing usage

 No.36295

>>36293
The joke is that when someone says "we did ___" you ask what what position they had, like what part of the team or what role in a company/etc. It's a fun joke

 No.36296

>>36295
does it look like I'm joking...

 No.36297

>>36296
You aren't just the joke, you're the whole goddamn circus.

 No.36298

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I have insider info and there are 55 power generators in the East Coast area which can support that sort of aluminum production. All of canada's Alumninum smelters are powered by hydro electricity. So America either needs to quickly build nuclear generators to replace all of this(and more internationally) or quickly throw up a coal power plant set

 No.36300

I'm not talking about the US vis a vis Canada but against China instead. China produces far more aluminium than Canada does and it's China the US is in competition with and it's China the US aims to replace the industrial capacity of.

Also talk of Coal power is stupid. The US is the largest producer of oil and gas in the world. There are shake oil fields that burn gas as a by-product of oil extraction simply because they don't have the infrastructure to export it. The US has the energy to do this but it's not going to be through coal.

 No.36302

>>36300
why are you always so wrong... everything you just said is factually wrong. About Canada-US aluminium trade, you can find the facts. And about the US East Coast largest power generators you're wrong but I could be sued for talking about that by a contract with the generator

 No.36303

maybe by combined total generation across multiple smaller units, I could have misscalculated that.. but in terms of raw per generator power the coal and nuclear ones output the most

 No.36304

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When I have a time I guess I will check to see the combined effect of grouped power plants, but this should be vague enough to not get me in any trouble

 No.36305

>>36302
Go and look up oil, gas and aluminium production by nation. I am not wrong.

Didn't I alsosay I was talking about aluminium more generally and not just in regards to Canada? Canada doesn't even make a tenth of what China does.

I wasn't talking about US east cost power generators. That was somebody else.

 No.36307

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 No.36308

The US is attacking Canada through economics.

 No.36309

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You are seriously mentally ill

 No.36310

>>36307
What biases? You clearly are not reading what I write. I am not talking about Canada by itself I am talking globally. The US wants to replace Chinese manufacturing and it wants to do a little of that in the US itself. To do that it needs to establish it's own material processing including aluminium.

Your import chart US irrelevant to this.

 No.36311

>>36310
*a little of that
a lot of that

 No.36312

>>36310
You are being fucking retarded.

 No.36313

>>36312
No you.

 No.36314

>>36304
There is still a natural gas plant in that list. Also it's much easier and quicker to build natural gas than nuclear.

But also this isn't the biggest issue. The issue is electricity cost not output. There are ways to get around output but not cost.

 No.36315

>>36314
it's complicated because that NG gen is part of a nuclear installation

 No.36316

>>36315
Either way they can just use multiple plants or make a really big one.

The bottom line is that the US is flooded with cheap gas and oil and as Aluminium production is an energy intensive process that is good for the US. It makes US energy cheap so it will make US Aluminium production cheaper(otherwise they will have to subsidise the industry which depending on how important they view this they may do)

 No.36322

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>>36316
And yet they get most of it from Canada.
There's also the issue of bauxite reserves practically being non existent in the US

 No.36323

>>36322
The US has larger bauxite reserves than Canada. But anyway, this just means that it would have to import it.
Now if only the world's largest producer of Bauxite also happened to be a close ally of the USA...

 No.36324

>>36322
Also I think you misunderstand me and my position with that image.
I don't think Trump will annex Canada that's just more Trump nonsense. Also as I keep saying. This is not even about Canada.

 No.36325

>>36324
fuck off

 No.36326

No one gives a shit if it's a joke or not. I will die before I ever accept the American boot up my ass.

 No.36329

Fuck you for even entertaining the idea that the lunatic south can even be understood. They are a nuclear threat and there will be no underestimating and no assumption of any empathy. They are beasts to be slayed

 No.36330

ok. I unbanned the other guy because you simply annoyed me

 No.36331

Hmph! Well I'm still cross about that. I don't think I deserved it at all.

 No.36333


 No.36334

>>36330
did you mean andy? because he's still perma'd

 No.36336


 No.36337

>>36336
exceedingly tarded ban

 No.36338

>>36337
the posts that got a banned were deleted. But basically 'canada is the same as america' in different vibes.

 No.36339

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You guys really shouldn't engage in these threads...
Vern is a product of programmers, psychologists and youtubers that promise the audience doom if they look away for 10 seconds. It is very difficult to disconnect people from the drip feed of emotional exploitation that is the modern internet.

I'm afraid to remove the ban yet lest he do something extreme. Sorry...
But once it is, hopefully, please never engage him in these threads for everyone's benefit.

 No.36340

This position is non negotiable. I removed the appeal button.

 No.36341

>>36326
>I will die before I ever accept the American boot up my ass.
they do call it the little death
tehe

 No.36350

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This shit's fucking retarded, you're not going to stop the world from ending by stress posting about it online.

 No.36354

As long as my country has a will and a plan, I will give it my support against invaders

 No.36357

hasan nigger

 No.36409

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/13/quebec-trump-tariffs-trade-00204153 you heard it.. zero overproduction of aluminum outside of China

 No.36504

>>36234
hasan nigger




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