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 No.2269[View All]

I'm feeling really, really tempted to get a 5090 even though it's a massive scam and it's months worth of savings. It's not the rational thing to do, but I do AI stuff a lot and it brings me joy. (no I don't condone AI shitting up the internet and art)
There's also 3D modeling I want to take more seriously after Palworld reignited my passion for building stuff. Obviously you don't actually need a top of the line card to do this stuff, but it does allow more geometry to be active and speeds up rendering massively. More VRAM means you can have more processes open so jumping between programs is smoother.
AAA gaming sucks apart from Capcom so that doesn't really enter the equation at all. I guess ironically retro pixel filters are known to be VERY demanding if I decide to do that. Might be more demanding on CPU, though, I can't remember.
I'm in that CG tracker that went private 5 years ago so software and assets are no issue, but man this is still such a huge amount of money.
What to do...................................................................................................................................................................
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 No.2579

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Replaced CPU AIO's fans since they're said to be loud. Got a 5 pack of thermaltake ones for $30.

 No.2580

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Ram in motherboard, motherboard in case.
The motherboard is known as one of the cheapest X870 boards (ASRock X870 Pro RS). It performs well, but and they really skimped out on everything other than the motherboard. You don't even get a booklet. You get ONE SATA cable which made me laugh. I have to look online as to which slots are what, like the M2 slots. Well, I guess it's a good way to cut costs.

 No.2581

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Bonus shot of one of my storage containers since I'm looking for an audio optical cable thingie. The new motherboard doesn't have connectors for the 3-way split audio cable. I hope I don't have to order a new one, but I think I might. I wish I held on to all my physical boxes for PC games...

 No.2582

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Searched a lot and found no cable, so I ordered one. It's just $8, but it will take a day or two to get here.
In the meantime, time for a drip down memory lane!
My mom actually bought me the FLCL and EoE things, I've yet to this day pay for anime. Thanks, mom, maybe DVDs will be worth something one day.

 No.2583

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Someone build me a time machine because I want to go back.

 No.2584

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OK that's enough off-topic blogging for now. Time to go back to assembling the computer, but I'll have to move parts from my existing one to it so I'll be offline for a bit.
Video game booklets are something I want to start collecting sometime, though, they're just so cool. I wonder if anyone actually sells them, though, or if people assume they have no value.

 No.2598

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moved the re-usable stuff from old computer to new computer...

 No.2599

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but my yahoo mail accounts (yes I still use it for old account stuff) told me to confirm my identity and I had a circular thing going on where to confirm account A I had to use account B and to confirm account B I had to use A, so I had to partly re-assemble the old one to fix that and then re-assembled again.
That wasn't very fun, but I enjoyed the stuff before that.

 No.2600

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Glad I still kept my old power supply so I didn't need to re-wire all that stuff.
(this neon glow is overboard and I'll remove that in the bios tomorrow)
Also it's kind of bothering me that the bottom fans don't match, but half the computer will be hidden behind a monitor anyway.
NEW COMPUTER YAY!

 No.2601

>>2600
cool PC!

 No.2602

>>2600
oh and I did fix the Thermaltake logo thing, the top part pops off.
Ran Prime95 for an hour and CPU and memory didn't crash at all.

 No.2603

>>2543
>water
spooky!

 No.2604

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>>2603
It's important to keep your computer well hydrated!

 No.2606

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The CPU cooler is using an "All in one" system as mentioned here >>2543
It's water cooling, but it's a closed system for one part. It's sealed up in the factory so I can't do anything with it. The benefit is there's really no chance of leaking, but the con is that it will very slowly evaporate over time and I can't replace the water. That should take years, though, and if it doesn't then at least it was the same price as an air cooler. (This one is highly rated)
Part of the reason I did it is that the 5090 will be massive and expel hot air towards CPU, so having a radiator at the top of the case for cooling will greatly benefit the CPU.

 No.2624

neat bit of "insurance"

 No.2636

>>2624
That's pretty cool. It uses a vacuum or something? Back when I was doing my hobbyist watercooling stuff back in the 00s you would spend a few days running the loop with a separate PSU to check for leaks, but leaking almost never seemed dangerous to the computer since gravity naturally dropped the stuff away from parts.
The failure points on this AIO >>2600 is where the tubes connect to the radiator in the top right (out of picture) and from the CPU block (the upside-down 'thermaltake' square) and in both cases the water would be falling straight down to the bottom of the case. GPU blocks similarly would be on the bottom of the card.
Water and electronics are definitely a risky combination, but it's not as bad as people think.

 No.2638

>>2636
>That's pretty cool. It uses a vacuum or something?
If I remember right, it uses two separate pumps (one on the inlet and one on the outlet) and when the resistance falls due to a leak occurring, one of the pumps reverses flow so that the liquid is pulled into the reservoir.

 No.2645

>>2638
I was thinking it probably doesn't help well with punctures until a certain amount of liquid has spilled

 No.2646

>>2645
Yeah, I think it mainly makes sense as a prevention against server techs killing your $150,000 AI server (and every server below it) if they accidentally dislodge a tube off a barb fitting or something.

 No.2649

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For some reason the new motherboard isn't reading my oldest M2 drive which is what had my profiles on it for browsers and stuff.
Bought a $20 external M2 SSD reader thingie and... thankfully the drive is working. It makes me wonder what is wrong with the motherboard, though, maybe the M2 is too old? I moved it to different slots and even tried removing another one to see if somehow it was a bandwidth thing or something.
Kind of annoying, but at least it's a small drive and I could put some less accessible stuff on it like older AI models or something.

 No.2666

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absolutely incredible cats in this thread
a confluence of cats and computers
the cat blog sends you its regards

 No.2818

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I've been monitoring 5090s and it seems like most of them getting listed online from the third party resellers (MSI, PNY and other companies) have at least a 25% markup, selling for at least $2500. Some of them, with identical hardware mind you, is selling for over $3000.
I just saw some get listed on Wal-Mart for $3900 and people actually rushed to buy them up. This is a card with a retail value of $1999 which is itself already ludicrously absurd.
I have to laugh because life is too ridiculous.

 No.2819

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 No.2820

>>2819
>$5500
there are places where you could buy an apartment for the price of a few of these

 No.2821

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>>2819
>5500
That's a little over $1/RTX!

 No.2822

>>2820
That price is actually pretty close what i bought my previous apartment for. Then again, that was like a decade ago and it's probably several times more expensive now, so i guess your point still stands.
Imagine putting "new graphics card" as the reason for a mortgage application...

 No.2828

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These restocks that aren't at 7AM are really my only chance and I missed it. Oh well.

 No.3893

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I feel immense guilt and shame over it, but I have it installed now alongside a PSU I "reserved" 3 months ago when it was out of stock. I figure spending the extra money is worth having the card this year instead of the next as I work towards things.
Sadly, my wonderful and beautiful computer parts model is no longer of this world. It puts things in perspective that time is limited.

 No.3894

>>3893
And yes, it has Ice Storm AND Fire Storm. I don't know how they don't cancel each other out, but that's the power of modern GPUs.

 No.3895

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>>3894
Modern GPUs have tons of MP (almost 75)

 No.3896

>>3893
>Sadly, my wonderful and beautiful computer parts model is no longer of this world. It puts things in perspective that time is limited.
;_;

 No.3926

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I was able to prompt 50 960x1088 images at once. Generation time was a little under 3 minutes with VRAM spiking at only 22GB when the part at the end with the VAE happened. I'd guess I could probably prompt 80 or possibly even 100 at once! But, it's already a pain to navigate the generated image thing afterwards so I'd never do that. 50 is already annoying enough.
I guess this is technically something possibly with a 24gb card, although that's a very slim margin.
Soon I'll move onto training a LORA for these new models! While Kuon looks great in these, it's very difficult to separate her as a person from her clothes. The (Utawarerumono) necessary in her prompt also receives some heavy influence from Eruruu.
Training should require maybe 10% as much time as on my 3080's 12GB.

 No.3927

>>3926
That's a lot of Kuon, almost too much. Your Non-Fungible-Kuon stock is plummeting in value!

 No.3928

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>>3927
The 'wildcard' system I have setup to queue up random stuff in the prompt works very well! I need to add a lot more stuff, but the results can be really fun. This is such a wonderful use of technology. Imagine endless randomized Kuon outfits in endlessly randomized accessories and randomized this and randomized expressions and randomized that and wow!

 No.3929

>>3928
but it really does bother me how it doesn't get her tail and ears correct all of the time!

 No.3930

>>3928
>Imagine endless randomized Kuon outfits in endlessly randomized accessories and randomized this and randomized expressions and randomized that and wow!
you'll love the Utawarerumono gacha

 No.3931

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>>3930
I am somehow familiar with it since I 'follow' the art uploads on an exhentai gallery. I'm not a fan of how it spits all over the story with time travel and other dimensions and the other gacha justifications to commodify the emotional connection to beloved characters.
I ignore everything about it apart from the nice art.

 No.3932

>>3930
>he fell for the gacha blunder
Never spend money on gacha when the art is free and you can make your own combat in your head!

 No.3934

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nobody needs anything more than a 1070

 No.3935

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>>3932
Who are you quoting?

 No.3937

>>2269
>I'm in that CG tracker that went private 5 years ago so software and assets are no issue
cgpeers? Can you see if something I've been looking for is there?

 No.3938

I'm currently in the process of upgrading to the best hardware for editing + AI that my budget allows, which would be a 3090 Ti. I'm not too worried about not getting the 5090, but what hurts me is that I'm not able to afford a 4090, because the leap from the 30 series to it seems to be very significant.
I usually only do a full upgrade every decade or so, so I'm checking for motherboards with two PCIe 5.0 slots just in case I might be able to afford one or two capable cards for cheap in the future. I've found some 690 / 790 MBs that I might be able to get for around 150 bucks, if I get lucky.
For the CPU, I'm currently looking at the i9-12900KS, with the possibility to swap it out for a 14th gen in the future. It seems that the 14900KS will be the last for this socket, so I limited my RAM options to its 192 GB and DDR5 5600 maximum, even if the 12th gen I'm aiming for right now can't make use of it.

I'm still somewhat new to researching hardware and only ever got random pre-builds in the past, so I'm open to any criticism if something I said is actually nonsensical and I'm unaware of it. I tried my very hardest to understand how the hardware might interact with each other and to take it into account for possible seperate upgrades a few years down the line.

 No.3939

i boughted a 4090

 No.3940

>>3935
One of the two classic blunders that one must know, the second, lesser known is this:
>Never go against a green texter when funposting is on the line.

 No.4109

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I'm not very good with hardware compared to most enthusiasts and was hoping /maho/ could please give me some help with something of a new build. I've been offered a free PC upgrade through my mother's company but I'm not confident in what I'm doing. From what I can read at the moment, AMD has overtaken Nvidia for practical affordability and price:performance ratio, but doesn't offer very high end GPUs. I've also been recommended an X3D CPU by an acquaintance, but I don't believe Intel offers an equivilent yet.

I've been using Intel+Nvidia all my life just because it's what I had help with from my older cousin growing up. My main use case is games, as well as some Adobe suite work mostly Lightroom and Photoshop and a small amount of video editing. I don't do anything in the vein of AI, and don't really play many new release games; my current hardware is able to run most of what I play without issue with the most demanding thing being Baldur's Gate 3, heavily modded Skyrim, or Team Fortress 2. Although TF2 is an older game it struggles on my current hardware and I believe simply upgrading the CPU will do wonders for it. I intend to play TES6 when it eventually releases.

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/vgZ9Lc

I am already using the case, CPU fan and RAM in the above link. From what I can understand the 9800X3D and 9950X3D are functionally the same for my use case with the latter just being better for workstation use. According to this website and this review

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Radeon+RX+9070+XT&id=5956
https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-gpu-review-benchmarks-vs-5070-ti-5070-7900-xt-sapphire-pulse

The 5070 Ti is slightly better than the 9070 XT at a slightly higher price point, but is overpriced compared to RRP.
One of the difficulties in doing this is that everything I get has to be from a local store called PBTech due to use of a business account to recieve a discount, so something like the 7900 XT is not an option. I'd like to please ask for help choosing a graphics card, motherboard and PSU, then RAM if necessary.

 No.4110

>>3937
>cgpeers? Can you see if something I've been looking for is there?
Sorry I didn't see that post until now because someone bumped the thread. kissu has been too fast and active!
Yes I can, what are you looking for, person two weeks in the past?

>>3938
VRAM is the biggest thing for AI. Sure, the 5090 and 4090 will have some speed over the 3090 but having the 24gb of VRAM on the 3090 is what allows you to do many things at all. A 3090 is like having a $400,000 Ferrari instead of a $500,000 Lamborghini. It's not an exaggeration that the change from a model being offloaded some to RAM from VRAM is like 30-50x slower, if it's possible at all.

>so I'm checking for motherboards with two PCIe 5.0 slots

Be aware that the newer cards are huge. I can't physically fit my old card in the motherboard on the second slot. I wonder if someone will make an aftermarket cooler that's thin, but I bet it will be expensive as all of these things are.

>For the CPU, I'm currently looking at the i9-12900KS,
When I did research for CPU stuff AMD was the kind of mixed work/gaming CPUs and I went with the 9800XCD which had trouble staying in stock.
Now to read the new post...

 No.4111

>>3940
even more important
¥always call out a greener when it's andy

 No.4112

>>4109
If you have no AI plans, AMD is definitely something you can do as a cheaper and much better price point. The 9950X3D is probably something you should only buy if you already have specific plans to make use of it extensely, which most people don't. The 9800 is already really powerful at its price and that's why it's so popular.

>One of the difficulties in doing this is that everything I get has to be from a local store ...I'd like to please ask for help choosing a graphics card, motherboard and PSU, then RAM if necessary.

I'm not sure how we could help since we can't go to the store with you. Maybe you can go there and take notes or something?

 No.4113

>>4112
Sorry, to be clear I more meant I can't order off Newegg, Amazon etc or buy second hand because the purchase is being made by my mother's company and has to be done locally. It's a chain and they have a website: https://www.pbtech.co.nz/
Another store that sometimes has more niche products is https://computerlounge.co.nz/. I don't know if I can buy from them in this instance however.
The 9800 sounds good. I'm sometimes a bit wary of buying a very popular part, or even something popular outside of hardware, because it often seems like it's for a common use case, but I suppose I fit such a case when it comes to PC use. And thank you for reading my post, sorry I got a bit rambly.

 No.4114

>>4113
Hmm... Well, I'm not too familiar with AMD cards but I'd say you want at LEAST 12gb of VRAM. Personally I don't think you should bother buying a card with less than 16gb. If you can't afford the extra $100 New Zealand bucks (or the company rather) then save until you can.
But... hmm.. I just really don't know AMD stuff. I haven't had an AMD GPU since like 2002 or something. I'm just too paranoid over driver issues with obscure emulators and stuff. It's better these days, though.




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