Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 00:00:38 No. 2270
.flip it
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 00:43:32 No. 2273
I might buy a used 4090 since everyone's dumping them on the secondary market locally and the 5090 is shit.
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 00:44:36 No. 2274
why are you buying an nvidia card. nvidia is an AI for buisness company
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 00:47:29 No. 2275
Couldn't you get like two 3090s or two 4090s (or some other combo) used for the price of a new 5090? that would probably be better for AI than a single 5090. Or maybe a quadro and the likes. I wouldn't trust the 50 series cards just on principle that they lied about the performance metrics of the 5070, saying it's better than the 4090 at half the price.
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 01:34:53 No. 2277
>>2276 There's a kissu pc?
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 01:36:12 No. 2278
>>2277 Yeah it's what the Palworld server is hosted on
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 01:56:03 No. 2279
I believe there are ways that it's used in LAN. The latency would probably be pretty bad by network
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 01:56:45 No. 2280
Really it's about rendering rather than as a studio. Rendering for 3d is only ever done by distributed systems
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 01:59:56 No. 2281
Pathetic
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 02:25:42 No. 2282
>>2275 Two GPUs unfortunately have a hidden cost to them. I'd need a new motherboard and if I need a new motherboard then I need a new CPU. I might already need a new PSU if I'm getting a 5090, so the costs are absurd. Bleh!
>>2276 Not really, or at least I doubt it. That kind of setup is for rendering farms, once you have a complete scene and you send the data over to be processed, like a Pixar movie. The performance I'd want is for rotating the camera around without stuttering in a complex scene while having other 3D programs open or even a game window. You know, "live" stuff. Multi monitor setups are less impressive when you can't make use of them for everything.
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 04:12:37 No. 2285
i don't even know if multi-gpu is a thing that works. when I tried to do it for video games it always had issues and the data had to be mirrored across both cards.
Anonymous 01/20/25 (Mon) 05:36:33 No. 2286
>>2285 Don't know about gaming, but that's how they do it at the big AI training servers with 100*s of GBs of VRAM.
Anonymous 01/24/25 (Fri) 03:04:25 No. 2309
The 5090 doesn't seem dramatically better compared to the 4090, like the 4090 was compared to the 3090/Ti. It's mostly just a generational improvement. Real world performance seems to be about 30% higher. That performance increase seems basically identical to the increase in TDP; 450W on the 4090 compared to 575W on the 5090, or ~28% higher. The efficiency in terms of FPS per watt more less bears this out, with the 5090 being around the efficiency of the 4090, or slightly below.
In Gamers Nexus' testing (
https://www.youtube.co , for reference, the 5090 had an FPS/W of 0.34, and the 4090 at 0.35. The 5090 drew 538.4W, and the 4090 drew 391.7W.
Not exactly very impressive. It basically looks like the 50-series is going to be a refresh generation.
Anonymous 01/24/25 (Fri) 03:06:00 No. 2310
>>2309 What about for AI, like most people have been touting it for?
Anonymous 01/24/25 (Fri) 03:29:44 No. 2311
>>2310 Hard to say. AI compute could be anywhere from 1.3x to 2.5x greater than the 4090. You'll likely have to wait until the release date on January 30th when regular people get their hands on one.
If you believe Nvidia's marketing, it should be 2.5x the speed of the 4090, going by their reported Tensor core TOPS. But... Well... They also said the 5090 would be twice the performance of the 4090, which it very obviously isn't (
>>2309 )...
Anonymous 01/24/25 (Fri) 04:14:38 No. 2313
>>2311 Yeah, I'm on at 3080 with 12gb of VRAM at the moment. It's a massive upgrade for AI just based on the VRAM alone. For a lot of the AI stuff you need a certain threshold of VRAM just to run it, like the video stuff I've mentioned before would take me 30 minutes to do what a 4090 does in a minute, and that's with making a lot of sacrifices. You can either store it in speedy VRAM or you can't.
>January 30th Nice, I still have some time to think it over.
Anonymous 01/25/25 (Sat) 06:18:26 No. 2316
>>2315 Nice, thanks. The two yotubers I look at once in a while (gaming nexus and jayz2cents) just looked at the gaming side of things. I'm generally more interested in image/video AI more than text since text has such absurd VRAM requirements for the better models. I'm sure the efficiency there is increasing over time, or at least I hope.
I'm leaning towards getting the card, but I just learned that it's a PCIE 5 thing instead of the 4 my motherboard has. 5 is backwards compatible, but I won't get the best possible performance. I guess I could buy the card and get a new motherboard in summer or so.
No reports of its performance in 3D programs, though. I'm sure it's good, but I'd like to hear more about it.
Anonymous 01/28/25 (Tue) 02:28:32 No. 2357
oh wait, now I see that I said something similar 2 days ago
Anonymous 01/31/25 (Fri) 02:23:29 No. 2412
>>2273 Update: I think a lot of people had the same reaction to Blackwell being shit, all the local 4090's disappeared just a little after the official reviews broke.
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 11:55:33 No. 2479
>>2478 Yeah, he's not the first to call it a paper launch. I'm not even sure what my plans are now.
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 12:25:33 No. 2480
>>2479 if you've got 1000 dollars to burn buy a vr set and get a better idea of what you can do with 3D models+inspiration.
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 14:01:32 No. 2481
>>2480 VR is something I looked into for easy money once, but it's not something I'd want to deal with. The first thing is that it's Unity and I don't want to learn an engine whose primary focus is phone games. The second is that I'm not generally good at talking to new people and making ERP avatars for people is
very personal.
Has anyone said anything about more 5090s coming in at any point? Quarter 2 or summer or anything?
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 14:04:34 No. 2483
>>2481 also Unity is the engine with that guy that wanted to monetize it further and everyone rallied against online. If possible people should avoid Unity since he's just biding his time.
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 15:49:32 No. 2486
>>2483 sounds like a minor issue
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 18:24:16 No. 2487
>>2486 It really isn't a minor issue that a game engine seeks percentages of all your profits and wants to attempt to retroactively change things. It's a massive liability.
Anonymous 02/07/25 (Fri) 18:27:57 No. 2488
>>2487 it's minor because there's UE, or directly interacting with the XR APIs with software.
https://vroid.com/en/studio is where models are uploaded and "supports Web (API), Unity, and Unreal Engine."
Anonymous 02/13/25 (Thu) 03:18:25 No. 2499
>>2498 I mean, pretty much everyone and their mother was waiting for the 50 series to come out before upgrading...
Anonymous 02/13/25 (Thu) 07:16:28 No. 2502
There's a table for comparing MHZ and cas latency. There was some other things about the number of chips on them or something.idk.
Anonymous 02/13/25 (Thu) 18:05:50 No. 2503
CPU SECURED! (I hope)
If somehow anyone else has been refreshing sites hoping to get the 9800X3D, it's on amazon! And it's directly available from amazon instead of mysterious chinese shops created days earlier.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DKFMSMYK Anonymous 02/23/25 (Sun) 04:46:47 No. 2544
RAM is also here.
I'm going to bump to let people know this info here about 5090s likely being in high supply in a month:
>>2532 Anonymous 02/23/25 (Sun) 04:51:57 No. 2545
>>2532 Mmmmmm, seeing some conflicting info about the melting wires here. Is it something to be worried about on any setup, or are there easy ways to avoid it?
Anonymous 02/23/25 (Sun) 04:57:56 No. 2546
>>2545 There's also a thing about some cards not having sufficient ROPs and I don't know what a ROP is exactly but it means weaker performance:
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-confirms-0-5-of It's something you could check yourself and they'd replace your card for it, though.
If the news is true and they're pivoting to making lots of 5090s then I could see them looking more closely at the manufacturing process. The wires thing seems pretty rare, just like the 4090s, but who knows.
Anonymous 02/23/25 (Sun) 09:51:14 No. 2548
>>2544 this meower just rammed me
Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 05:11:39 No. 2576
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motherboard
Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 05:24:15 No. 2578
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The case is quite nice, and it better be at the price. ($180, but I justified it because I buy a new one once a decade).
Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 05:25:23 No. 2579
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Replaced CPU AIO's fans since they're said to be loud. Got a 5 pack of thermaltake ones for $30.
Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 05:26:11 No. 2580
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Ram in motherboard, motherboard in case.
Anonymous 02/28/25 (Fri) 07:55:34 No. 2602
>>2600 oh and I did fix the Thermaltake logo thing, the top part pops off.
Ran Prime95 for an hour and CPU and memory didn't crash at all.
Anonymous 02/28/25 (Fri) 20:46:43 No. 2606
The CPU cooler is using an "All in one" system as mentioned here
>>2543 It's water cooling, but it's a closed system for one part. It's sealed up in the factory so I can't do anything with it. The benefit is there's really no chance of leaking, but the con is that it will very slowly evaporate over time and I can't replace the water. That should take years, though, and if it doesn't then at least it was the same price as an air cooler. (This one is highly rated)
Part of the reason I did it is that the 5090 will be massive and expel hot air towards CPU, so having a radiator at the top of the case for cooling will greatly benefit the CPU.
Anonymous 03/01/25 (Sat) 19:48:19 No. 2636
>>2624 That's pretty cool. It uses a vacuum or something? Back when I was doing my hobbyist watercooling stuff back in the 00s you would spend a few days running the loop with a separate PSU to check for leaks, but leaking almost never seemed dangerous to the computer since gravity naturally dropped the stuff away from parts.
The failure points on this AIO
>>2600 is where the tubes connect to the radiator in the top right (out of picture) and from the CPU block (the upside-down 'thermaltake' square) and in both cases the water would be falling straight down to the bottom of the case. GPU blocks similarly would be on the bottom of the card.
Water and electronics are definitely a risky combination, but it's not as bad as people think.
Anonymous 03/01/25 (Sat) 19:55:52 No. 2638
>>2636 >That's pretty cool. It uses a vacuum or something? If I remember right, it uses two separate pumps (one on the inlet and one on the outlet) and when the resistance falls due to a leak occurring, one of the pumps reverses flow so that the liquid is pulled into the reservoir.
Anonymous 03/02/25 (Sun) 00:48:55 No. 2645
>>2638 I was thinking it probably doesn't help well with punctures until a certain amount of liquid has spilled
Anonymous 03/02/25 (Sun) 01:01:06 No. 2646
>>2645 Yeah, I think it mainly makes sense as a prevention against server techs killing your $150,000 AI server (and every server below it) if they accidentally dislodge a tube off a barb fitting or something.
Anonymous 03/02/25 (Sun) 05:35:27 No. 2649
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For some reason the new motherboard isn't reading my oldest M2 drive which is what had my profiles on it for browsers and stuff.
Anonymous 03/29/25 (Sat) 05:40:06 No. 2820
>>2819 >$5500 there are places where you could buy an apartment for the price of a few of these
Anonymous 03/29/25 (Sat) 13:47:42 No. 2822
>>2820 That price is actually pretty close what i bought my previous apartment for. Then again, that was like a decade ago and it's probably several times more expensive now, so i guess your point still stands.
Imagine putting "new graphics card" as the reason for a mortgage application...
Anonymous 05/19/25 (Mon) 02:42:12 No. 3894
>>3893 And yes, it has Ice Storm AND Fire Storm. I don't know how they don't cancel each other out, but that's the power of modern GPUs.
Anonymous 05/19/25 (Mon) 09:01:32 No. 3896
>>3893 >Sadly, my wonderful and beautiful computer parts model is no longer of this world. It puts things in perspective that time is limited. ;_;
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 11:18:20 No. 3927
>>3926 That's a lot of Kuon, almost too much. Your Non-Fungible-Kuon stock is plummeting in value!
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 11:27:11 No. 3929
>>3928 but it really does bother me how it doesn't get her tail and ears correct all of the time!
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 11:32:31 No. 3930
>>3928 >Imagine endless randomized Kuon outfits in endlessly randomized accessories and randomized this and randomized expressions and randomized that and wow! you'll love the Utawarerumono gacha
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 11:37:01 No. 3931
>>3930 I am somehow familiar with it since I 'follow' the art uploads on an exhentai gallery. I'm not a fan of how it spits all over the story with time travel and other dimensions and the other gacha justifications to commodify the emotional connection to beloved characters.
I ignore everything about it apart from the nice art.
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 11:54:46 No. 3932
>>3930 >he fell for the gacha blunder Never spend money on gacha when the art is free and you can make your own combat in your head!
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 16:31:51 No. 3937
>>2269 >I'm in that CG tracker that went private 5 years ago so software and assets are no issue cgpeers? Can you see if something I've been looking for is there?
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 16:35:17 No. 3938
I'm currently in the process of upgrading to the best hardware for editing + AI that my budget allows, which would be a 3090 Ti. I'm not too worried about not getting the 5090, but what hurts me is that I'm not able to afford a 4090, because the leap from the 30 series to it seems to be very significant.
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 17:01:04 No. 3939
i boughted a 4090
Anonymous 05/24/25 (Sat) 17:37:34 No. 3940
>>3935 One of the two classic blunders that one must know, the second, lesser known is this:
>Never go against a green texter when funposting is on the line. Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 01:33:20 No. 4109
I'm not very good with hardware compared to most enthusiasts and was hoping /maho/ could please give me some help with something of a new build. I've been offered a free PC upgrade through my mother's company but I'm not confident in what I'm doing. From what I can read at the moment, AMD has overtaken Nvidia for practical affordability and price:performance ratio, but doesn't offer very high end GPUs. I've also been recommended an X3D CPU by an acquaintance, but I don't believe Intel offers an equivilent yet.
I've been using Intel+Nvidia all my life just because it's what I had help with from my older cousin growing up. My main use case is games, as well as some Adobe suite work mostly Lightroom and Photoshop and a small amount of video editing. I don't do anything in the vein of AI, and don't really play many new release games; my current hardware is able to run most of what I play without issue with the most demanding thing being Baldur's Gate 3, heavily modded Skyrim, or Team Fortress 2. Although TF2 is an older game it struggles on my current hardware and I believe simply upgrading the CPU will do wonders for it. I intend to play TES6 when it eventually releases.
https://nz.pcpartpicker I am already using the case, CPU fan and RAM in the above link. From what I can understand the 9800X3D and 9950X3D are functionally the same for my use case with the latter just being better for workstation use. According to this website and this review
https://www.videocardbench https://gamersnexus.net/gpus/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt- The 5070 Ti is slightly better than the 9070 XT at a slightly higher price point, but is overpriced compared to RRP.
One of the difficulties in doing this is that everything I get has to be from a local store called PBTech due to use of a business account to recieve a discount, so something like the 7900 XT is not an option. I'd like to please ask for help choosing a graphics card, motherboard and PSU, then RAM if necessary.
Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 01:57:36 No. 4110
>>3937 >cgpeers? Can you see if something I've been looking for is there? Sorry I didn't see that post until now because someone bumped the thread. kissu has been too fast and active!
Yes I can, what are you looking for, person two weeks in the past?
>>3938 VRAM is the biggest thing for AI. Sure, the 5090 and 4090 will have some speed over the 3090 but having the 24gb of VRAM on the 3090 is what allows you to do many things at all. A 3090 is like having a $400,000 Ferrari instead of a $500,000 Lamborghini. It's not an exaggeration that the change from a model being offloaded some to RAM from VRAM is like 30-50x slower, if it's possible at all.
>so I'm checking for motherboards with two PCIe 5.0 slots Be aware that the newer cards are huge. I can't physically fit my old card in the motherboard on the second slot. I wonder if someone will make an aftermarket cooler that's thin, but I bet it will be expensive as all of these things are.
>For the CPU, I'm currently looking at the i9-12900KS, When I did research for CPU stuff AMD was the kind of mixed work/gaming CPUs and I went with the 9800XCD which had trouble staying in stock.
Now to read the new post...
Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 02:01:16 No. 4111
>>3940 even more important
¥always call out a greener when it's andy Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 02:21:20 No. 4112
>>4109 If you have no AI plans, AMD is definitely something you can do as a cheaper and much better price point. The 9950X3D is probably something you should only buy if you already have specific plans to make use of it extensely, which most people don't. The 9800 is already really powerful at its price and that's why it's so popular.
>One of the difficulties in doing this is that everything I get has to be from a local store ...I'd like to please ask for help choosing a graphics card, motherboard and PSU, then RAM if necessary. I'm not sure how we could help since we can't go to the store with you. Maybe you can go there and take notes or something?
Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 02:58:02 No. 4113
>>4112 Sorry, to be clear I more meant I can't order off Newegg, Amazon etc or buy second hand because the purchase is being made by my mother's company and has to be done locally. It's a chain and they have a website:
https://www.pbtech.co Another store that sometimes has more niche products is
https://computerlounge.co . I don't know if I can buy from them in this instance however.
The 9800 sounds good. I'm sometimes a bit wary of buying a very popular part, or even something popular outside of hardware, because it often seems like it's for a common use case, but I suppose I fit such a case when it comes to PC use. And thank you for reading my post, sorry I got a bit rambly.
Anonymous 06/09/25 (Mon) 07:25:57 No. 4114
>>4113 Hmm... Well, I'm not too familiar with AMD cards but I'd say you want at LEAST 12gb of VRAM. Personally I don't think you should bother buying a card with less than 16gb. If you can't afford the extra $100 New Zealand bucks (or the company rather) then save until you can.
But... hmm.. I just really don't know AMD stuff. I haven't had an AMD GPU since like 2002 or something. I'm just too paranoid over driver issues with obscure emulators and stuff. It's better these days, though.