>babbies first Valkyria Chronicles
Which is that? But yeah I agree, switch library was never impressive to me. First party nintendo games just don't interest me as much as they did years ago.

¥ the worst Zelda games outside of the cd-i
Yeah BotW wasn't very good but had bits of novelty going for it at least and then TotK and EoW both just continued with all the wost aspects of it.
¥ the worst 3D Mario game
That's still Sunshine by far, Odyssey was just unremarkable.
¥ another totally-not-NSMB but without fun multiplayer or level flow
Yeah Wonder sucked.
¥ the worst Fire Emblems since Gaiden
I only played Blue Lions in Three Houses and enjoyed it well enough but the other routes sounded dumb. Yeah Echoes sucked.
¥ the worst Pokemon games of all time
¥ the new worst Pokemon games of all time
Yeah just absolutely dire state of the franchise.
¥ babbies first XCOM
I enjoyed the first Mario Rabbids but wasn't feeling the second one at all, it's probably not an actually bad game though.
¥ babbies first Valkyria Chronicles
Not sure what this one is.
¥ the worst Pikmin of all time, and that includes Hey!
Pikmin 4 was a good game. Yeah it's too easy but so are the rest of them. Better game than 3.

But yeah very unremarkable lineup all around and you're right that half the stuff it does get credit for are Wii U ports. Mostly just seems like people playing video games for the first time due to covid or the portability factor having extremely low standards.

>>3505
*Engage sucked

>>3503
>the worst 3D Mario game
I was about to argue this, but every 3D mario has been exceptional so kinda hard to really single out one it's worse than.

it has skyrim
also i dont think anyone actually gives a shit about anything being "worst of franchise" when its still a good game in an ip they like. plus people who haven't already spent decades in the hobby i.e. kids. youre being needlessly dismissive just for heck of it you miserable flip.

I feel bad for anyone that tried to release indie games on the Switch. It's absolutely FLOODED with horrendous shovelware, even before AI became a thing. I would load up the slow (on the switch) shop and navigating past the trash was a real hassle when the switch would experience significant slowdown and eventually crash after you scrolled down far enough. Nintendo really needs to step up and actually curate things to some very basic degree for the Switch 2.

Oh and I hope it gets hacked because I can't afford these games!

>>3503
>It's just baffling to me that this is one of their most successful consoles of all time when all the stuff that held up previous consoles is floundering hard this time around.
I had the same impression years ago when I still had a Switch. Hardly any original titles, mostly just inferior ports, and TONS of shovelware. I don't regret selling mine. The Vita is the better homebrew console with a better library BY FAR.

>>3510
the vast majority of people aren't buying a video game console for homebrew. amazing how everyone agrees console wars are dumb and pointless until they're suddenly not.
>>3508
you essentially said what i was going to, but much more politely. OP strikes me as someone who either isn't interested in or grew out of nintendo's games, which is fine, but that's not the console's fault. it's the cheapest console on the market, it's really good for couch multiplayer (which is important if you're a parent with kids, so a lot of the population), and the vast majority of true exclusives it has are, i'd argue, really good, and this is with me not counting the ports and remasters OP weirdly decided to completely dismiss for some reason, as if nobody has ever bought a console to play a game from a previous generation they may have either missed out on or want to replay.
i feel like i should note that i, too, am not particularly interested in a lot of nintendo's offerings, but i think it's silly to completely disregard an entire console and its library because of this. it's, at worst, another option i have to play a game i would already want to play in a generation where all the other options for consoles are more expensive and arguably worse in some aspects, like trying to phase out the option to play games physically or having unrelated ads on the dashboard. this is like looking at the ps2 and going "erm, all it has are the worst versions of third parties and sequels to ps1 games", i genuinely don't know what you expect.
you also weirdly left out warioware, kirby, and super smash bros ultimate for some reason, though i'd guess you're not particularly fond of any of those either. though i admittedly didn't like get it together or forgotten land that much.

>>3503
My take is that, if you're buying a console for a child or someone computer illiterate just to chill out a bit and maybe play Hello Kitty Island Adventure, it's the only option at the pricepoint. I could justify spending thousands on my own computer over time for my autism non-/v/ hobbies, but not for a $2,000 local currency ultra rayraced Playstation 12 just for a few party games.

The console seemed to sell like hotcakes for some reason on release snowballing from am Ouya into something with sufficient playerbase worth developing for it.

I hear it has the easiest developer pipeline of any console to date. Typically developers, people fucking around at home, can only really publish their personal curiosity Bionic Commando clone style projects on Steam, Mobile or no playerbase Homebrew on hacked consoles, while you need an industry partner like Nicalis who know all the right people to get anything onto Playstation or Xbox, The Binding of Isaac from a pseudo celebrity dev a fair example. I have no clue how you even get into it. While I've not taken it seriously enough to try myself, you can apparently buy a devkit for a few hundred on the Nintendo website with a manual on the architecture and some kind of Gamemaker style utilities and everything, no questions asked, and are greenlit for an upload immediately. This would explain why every indie game is on Switch, while PS5 is exclusively for the Destroy all Humans remake and such from the old guard.

I think a lot of what made the first Switch successful was the point in time it released which had a lot of context around it doing certain things first like presenting console power in your pocket without the half measures Sony did with their handhelds and COVID giving it a second wind. The 2nd factor is important because I believe they would've released a successor earlier if sales had fallen off earlier which it was looking to do. It's pretty evident this time there is a lot less of a wow factor involved, even with stuff like the mouse joycon and magnetic rails system and dock and all the Nvidia features that can come to the system. In my opinion, they are being way too greedy with some of their pricing and they missed the boat on releasing way too late, it would've been perfect if they released last year and now, the launch is being stymied by geopolitical events and turning into a nightmare scenario for them.
>>3508
>skyrim
It was a big deal when you couldn't do that on just any portable device you could scrounge up to the average person and it felt like magic getting a device that could play it portable. Nowadays, that isn't a novelty anymore with phones being able to play stuff like God of War at 30FPS and PC handhelds showing this stuff years prior, no one batted an eye when it was shown that Cyberpunk ran on the Switch 2. Plus, it's now more expensive than the digital PS5 and Xbox Series X in a couple of places. That is going to give people pause.
>>3509
The Nintendo Eshop has no discoverability whatsoever. Steam is bad but it at least tries and does enough of a job policing it that random crap doesn't overflow everything. I was hoping they would announce something about improving it but Nintendo seems content with it being bad.

I think it's important for something like the switch to stick around to show companies that you don't need lame hyper realism to make good games. This is why I liked the 3DS and Vita so much, companies were just focused on making good games instead of something that looked good in screenshots. So many great games that popped up on those systems and nowhere else and it's because the core of the experience was the game.

>>3504
Rabbids Sparks of Hope. It totally abandoned the grid-based nature of the first game and moved to OP command abilities. It kinda pisses me off since I like grids.

>>3505
>Sunshine
I'd rather be spraying shit than running through big empty spaces. It also had tighter platforming segments and a feeling of actual accomplishment behind collectables instead scattering 100 moons in every crevice of a level.

>3H
I actually liked Engage more. Even though the story made fucking Conquest look well-written, the gameplay was full of mobage shit, and the character designs were eyecancer, at least it had variation to the gameplay and designed difficulty.

>Pikmin 4 was a good game
If you don't like Pikmin games, maybe. 3 was far from perfect, but at least it brought back core series elements and added to them with additional micromanagement features. 4 rolled back all of that in favor of making it an action game about your OP dog.

>>3511
>grew out of
You can't grow out of good games. You don't look at OoT or Mario Galaxy and say "well, they were good when I was 12, but..." But these are the console's best sellers and they're a mix of lackluster and straight-up bad.

>not counting the ports and remasters OP weirdly decided to completely dismiss for some reason
Counting those makes it impossible to compare lineups from different gens because of course the Wii U has a better library than the SNES when you take into account that it can play the entire SNES library.

Warioware and Smash are always fun to play with friends, but I'm short on those at the moment and I have been checked out of Smash since it became a DLC factory. I'll add Kirby to my list, I'm not as familiar with it as the other main series but they're generally pretty good for relaxing with.

I can't lie, everyone's complaining about the price of the switch 2 but if Prime 4 is a release title I might capitulate and buy one.

>>3503
It's not necessary

>>3516
Prime 4 is going to be the last big Switch 1 game (unless the 2 crashes and burns and they decide to stick to the thing that has an installbase), so you don't need to capitulate, it will be emulatable day 1.

>>3518
>unless the 2 crashes and burns and they decide to stick to the thing that has an installbase
Nintendo doesn't have a backup option, they have to migrate everyone over to the new console to make money or die trying. 2 is going to have a very slow start given the internal Nintendo factors and what is happening in the world. What I think will most likely happen is that you get a longer "cross-gen" period but you'll have a lot of stuff that will run on both Switches and then stuff that will only be on the new 2 console. I dunno how long 1st party will last but that will certainly be the case for third party for a long time.

>>3519
>a longer "cross-gen" period
Longer than what? Nintendo immediately killed their last console for the Switch, but Sony and Microsoft are still releasing games for their last-gen consoles like ten years later. I'm pretty confident this will be a PS4/PS5 situation where the older console is making more than the new one for years on the software side. And if everything's being released on the older console anyway, why shell out the extra hundreds + tip to get the newer console and its version?