I have been keeping tabs on the culture war since 2012. Its a whole can of worms but essentially its Cultural Marxism, otherwise known as identity politics or woke. Marxism creates an oppressor oppressed dichotomy and assigns collective guilt to the oppres

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The Gay Communists are coming after Anime Aniconomics 02/26/25 (Wed) 13:39:34 No.20020

I have been keeping tabs on the culture war since 2012. Its a whole can of worms but essentially its Cultural Marxism, otherwise known as identity politics or woke. Marxism creates an oppressor oppressed dichotomy and assigns collective guilt to the oppressor class. Classical Marxism used this dichotomy to drum up class conflict and instigated a revolution on the so called bourgeois hegemony. Modern critical theory extends this class conflict to other identity groups like race, sex, sexual orientation etc. Straight white men are considered the oppressor class and women, people of color and LGBTQ people are the victim class. This creates what is otherwise known as the victim perception fallacy. It propagandizes a group of people into perceiving none existent discrimination. Which creates a skewed perception of themselves and the world. Classical feminism promotes equality of opportunity. Radical feminism influenced by Marxism preaches equity. You see a lot of the woke types commit what is known as the equity fallacy. This occupation is 80% comprised of men therefore it must be evidence of discrimination. The Jordan Peterson Cathy Newman interview is an excellent example of this fallacy taking place

Intersectional theory promotes the idea that intersecting identities create unique forms of oppression. A black woman is considered more oppressed compared to a black man. A black, disabled, trans woman is even more oppressed. Post Modernism teaches the idea that objective truth does not exist with the social constructionists attempting to deconstruct societal norms like gender, monogamy or the nuclear family. There are many more splinter ideologies.

In 2012 the activists infiltrated the New Age Atheist movement and Elevator Gate happened. In 2014-2015, they infiltrated the Gaming Community and GamerGate happened. You also had the Politically Correct movement in the universities.

The anime community is a bit more difficult to infiltrate because the industry itself resides in the east. Japan is a high trust first world society with a successful free market. The culture is very different and anime is largely successful because of that unique expression and free market. Communists usually propagandize the lower class. Its very difficult to influence a conservative homogeneous society that has a high standard of living.

But there has been significant attempts. International censorship is a constant threat. Which is why most otaku are staunch advocates for free speech & freedom of expression. This is a core value of the anime community. With most of the culture clashes residing in the western end of the community. In the private sector you have western companies that have embraced DEI initiatives which has had an influence on Japanese companies. Credit Card processors are strangling the market by refusing to do business with Japanese companies. You have localizers injecting their politics into translations. You also have activists on social media platforms that are demonizing core concepts like lolicon, waifus and a lot of the traditional values Japan tends to promote. Its a full blown offensive.

The lolicon boom happened in the 1980s. Most modern otaku with a designated waifu are basically 1980s lolicons or soft-lolicons as I like to put it. The lolicon boom popularized the moe/shoujo asthetic. The cutesy art style that has become a core stylistic feature of anime. Simply being obsessed with a female character qualified you as a lolicon in the 1980s. Which is why the definition of a loli does not include age among its criteria, merely cuteness which necessitates a youthful design.

Now you have covid "anime fans" tying to rewrite history. Lolicons were always a core aspect of the community.

I think the idea that anime was relegated to kids was a distinctly western perception. In Japan you had the Gekiga movement in the 1960s which broadened the market towards a more mature audience. Anime and manga was seen as something for both kids and adults. Of course there was some stigmatization towards people who went too far in their interests. The so called otaku. People with lacking social skills who obsessed over anime, light novels and manga.

Miyazaki hated on lolicons specifically because he was either digusted by their obsession over his characters or he saw himself in them because he himself liked depicting princess characters.

In the west, animation is perceived as children entertainment. Anime by extension was subject to this perception despite its overabundance of adult themes. Such a view is narrow minded and majority consensus does not necessarily determine what is right and wrong. But that doesn't change the fact your going against the grain. You would be viewed in a somewhat negative light if you were caught watching anime as an adult. For the aforementioned reason or because of the inverse. That being the alternative perception that "all" Japanese animation is tentacle porn. So you were seen as a weirdo for supposedly watching foreign animated porn with tentacles. Despite the evident fact that not all anime is hentai.

I liken being an anime fan to this one Spongebob episode I watched. Spongebob starts wearing a wig but is soon ridiculed for his apearance. Spongebob gets rid of the wig and it comes into fashion when a band wears that very same wig. Spongebob notices the wigs popularity by the end of the episode and realizes he was cool before it was considered cool to wear the wig. The lesson being the weirdo nerds were always the cool kids and everyone was too dumb to realize it because they were trying to be sociable. We were decades ahead of our time.

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Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 12:25:59 No.20021

Gay communist here. This thread is too much truth for me to handle. Locking until another mod decides to delete

Moved by followup

Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 13:39:57 No.20022

couldn't immediately think of anything funny to say, so to /trans/

Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 19:04:59 No.20023

Actual socialist here, you're talking about liberals, not communists. While there's definitely Marxist influence, Postmodernism is more properly thought of as a continuation of Nietzsche and Heidegger (the latter of whom was a literal Nazi) than anything Marx or Engels ever wrote. Saying Postmodernism is Communist is like Ayn Rand saying that Fascism and Communism are basically the same thing; it betrays a very superficial understanding of both. Re radical feminism specifically, Marx saw it as a distraction from the class struggle and actually torpedoed a Communist party that was being overtaken by it.

Anyway, building your identity around consumption is pathetic, and getting your ideology from the internet is retarded. Get off your computer and actually meet people and do something for a change. I'm not saying that being interested in media is bad, but if you let it define you as a person, you're no longer a human being, you're a bank account that fits into a demographic.

>Credit Card processors are strangling the market
Amazon could send a robot to your house that violently rapes you once an hour and get away with it because you signed the EULA for a video game five years ago, and you faggots would still somehow find a way to blame it on Communism.

Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 19:18:57 No.20026

these culture war retards honestly think they're helping when they fill every corner of the internet with their "redpills" so no one can actually talk about anime like it was the 00s again

Anonymous 02/26/25 (Wed) 22:07:44 No.20027

>>20026
It's funny. They always say that it's leftists infiltrating apolitical spaces, but the entirety of my experience online has been the opposite. I remember right around the time #GamerGay happened, most of the sites I frequented, places like 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica, went from openly unserious South Park style equal opportunity offense and absurdism to retarded fucking "meme warfare" right-wing activism basically overnight.

If you want a testament to this shift, there was (is?) an imageboard I used where posts needed to be manually approved. At one point, the guy running it stepped away for a bit, so there's a few-year-long gap in between the posts. There was a thread on that site where OP got an abortion, and was talking about how it made her body feel strange afterward. The first few replies are from the early 2010s, and they're all really silly jokes about the subject; I think one guy recommended using the fetus as a yo-yo. The next few replies are from much later, probably 2017 or so, and they're all telling her how she's a horrible sick freak for aborting her child. Like jesus fuck dude, get the stick out of your ass.

I've been trying to chase that 2000s/early-2010s culture for the rest of my life, where you could joke about whatever you wanted without people freaking out about it or, worse, doing that obnoxious fucking thing where they pretend to not be offended when they very much are (make a joke about religion? Guess you're a "reddit atheist" now). I've found very few places that replicate what I had back then, and when they do, it's never in its entirety.

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 03:54:19 No.20029

>>20020
OP, what you say is nothing new, the west fell with the peace of Westphalia and now we're living ruled by heretics, that's why everything is so shit. (The Kali Yuga as esotericists like to call it or something i guess). We can even argue anime as a whole is just a mere product of modernity, based upon the rules of the society of consumption. As we are being more and more detached from the previous civilization that precedes us, there is no need to maintain the appearance of catering to certain values, now lost. Entertainment is used as both to appease the masses and as a form of masses-engineering, as we live in a society raised by propagandists, even you, or me are unable to be free from the simulacrum, and even dissidents to said system are the propagandists themselves, as a common example, this happens a lot with the so called "red-pillers" they want to be free out of the boundaries of propaganda, but use a term out from a Hollywood film. As another example, you OP, used the word "gender" instead of "sex", probably by inertia. A propaganda term made by those you argue to hate, this is just an example of what exposition to what at first view, is seemingly unpolitical propaganda, is in reality, a subversion process with another ulterior objective. We see it everywhere, as Wittgenstein said, the limits of my language means the limit of my world, that's why they're so persistent with the manipulation of language and terminology, talking specifically about anime.... Japan itself is a liberal nation, where the last battle against the revolutionary process of subversion was fought in the Satsuma Rebellion and lost. But it's process has been slower than the nations in the other side of the pacific ocean, at the same time they got key concepts of European civilization in the so called westernization. Modern Japan is just a culture that is behind the cogs of revolution of rest of the west for a few decades ago. And attacking anime is attacking Japan's soft-power, therefore a form of waging war, waging war against it's culture can be seen in, those American credit card companies refusing Japanese companies payments, just an example. The epitome of the attack on Japanese culture is the destruction of Japan, as we could already seen a prologue of it in the terrorists attacks of Tokyo's subway. Attacking culture is a good way to demoralize society, because to correctly subvert a nation you have to demoralize it first. A demoralized enemy will not fight back. As we live in the age of information, or age of simulation (in the sense of what Jean Baudrillard means as "simulacre") those with the ability to manipulate reality by their willingness, using any means, like industrial entertainment of masses, will have an advantage against those who can't. Since now, they've have been pushing homosexual propaganda down our throats, which is an effective tool of applying malthusian politics long-term and a great way of demoralization, that's why the KGB created it in the first place, to destroy their enemies society behavior to win their wars. (The idealization of the beauty of woman, as seen in cutesy anime, goes against the will of those who want low natality rates, but one can argue, that the para-social relationships and behaviors generated by the creation of several simulations based in a society of consume are a counterfeit of this same principle and in fact, have been a helper, but an involuntary one because subversion was only superficial as a consequence of the dynamic of consume not the media per se). But times changes, and methods too, but even if they change the coat of paint, the structure remains the same, now we're seeing the right doing the same, for example. So, basically, the gay communists aren't coming against anime, anime itself represents a will that goes a stronger one, and so, war needs to be waged, as the fate of man is moved by the military-industrial complex and the control of information is just a small step to achieve this objective.

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 08:39:21 No.20030

Reminder: Communism is when ugly deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal then rob and/or kill all successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty. The ideology is all just window dressing.

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 12:17:30 No.20031

communism is when you snoof the floof and the snoofier the communister it is

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 16:08:08 No.20033

>>20029
You need more paragraphs breaks. It feels like I'm reading a schizo spergout. That aside, you're half-right in a way that's really fucking annoying.

The problem with you people is that you never ask why people act the way they do, why society moves the way it does, you just assume that people decide to do what they do because they feel like it. No, people, including elites, aren't going to radically change their behavior on a whim; that's retarded. History is much more properly understood in terms of the technological and economic conditions that influence the way people act.

>>20030
Real communism is inherently populist, a democratic authoritarian state. Western """communism""" is a psyop created post-war to keep actual communism from happening here by muddying the waters; war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, etc. Look into what China and North Korea are doing. I think you'll find both sufficiently to your tastes.

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 17:22:25 No.20034

>>20033
>It feels like I'm reading a schizo spergout.
hahaha that's was the point ＼(＾▽＾)／, i wanted to write as chuunibyo as possible, that's why i am not going to develop certain topics or sound reasonable, because then it loses that schizo feel.

Anonymous 02/27/25 (Thu) 17:56:58 No.20035

>>20034
I have no idea why on earth that's something you would deliberately go for.

Anonymous 02/28/25 (Fri) 22:16:04 No.20036

To add on to >>20033, the following are excerpts from Combat Liberalism by Mao Zedong:
>But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.

>To let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise and play safe and seek only to avoid blame. This is a third type [of liberalism].

>Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one’s own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type [of liberalism].

>To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type [of liberalism].

>To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along —“So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell.” This is a ninth type [of liberalism].

>To be aware of one’s own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type [of liberalism].

>Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.

>Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.

>A Communist should have largeness of mind and he should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the revolution as his very life and subordinating his personal interests to those of the revolution...he should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than about any private person, and more concerned about others than about himself. Only thus can he be considered a Communist.

You should read the whole thing at https://archive.org/details/Mao-Combat-Liberalism. It's only four pages long, and says a lot in those four pages.

Communism, as you can see, is about the good of the collective, not degenerate atomized liberal individualism. Most people who think they're opposed to communism, especially "authoritarians" actually hold quite a few Marxist positions, they've just been misinformed about what communism actually is.

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