No.175165
>>175122>Pretty wild how there are people there constantly foaming at the mouth over trans & interracial threads. Why are they on a pr0n/fetish board in the first place? They even have the nerve to cry on there about 'degeneracy' lol.Because nobody actually wants it you nigger. It's shill kuso. I'm there for big tits.
No.175170
>>175161have you checked if you are behind a CG-NAT? Nowadays with ISPs new clients get put behind them and sharing a single IPv4 address, which may mean a whole lot of problems.
The other situation could be if it is one of those ISPs that has places like 4chan and 8 (when it existed) blacklisted. Or that it blocks Cloudflare after a court order.
No.175171
>>175123>Seriously what is the demographic for 4chan passes? I had one when I used to play a multiplayer game with other anons and used a thread to coordinate because we did not want to resort to discord. The waiting times and captcha were becoming a problem if you wanted to join a game but could not open your mouth until 5 or 15 minutes had passed.
No.175176
>>175161Maybe it's DNS related? Have you tried changing the DNS server on your router? Mine used to inject weird notifications if I was behind a bill through DNS and when I changed the router DNS it stopped (pay your bills though!)
No.175215
>>175165Learn to hide threads then.
>Because nobody actually wants itSpeak for yourself.
No.175288
>>175215Learn to suck my cock.
No.175290
>>175288Learn to sage when making off-topic non-happening posts in the happenings thread.
No.175301
I used to have a 4chan pass but since the hack I decided to stop monetarily supporting the website. They refused to deliver a data breach notification after we almost got doxxed by the hacker, you know, something that's actually illegal because any US based website suffering from a data breach must notify affected users. I also had money on their third party advertisement system Danbo or whatever. I don't believe Danbo was affected by the hack in any way, but that site has my bank account linked in so if a hacker attacks them they could see potentially damaging info about me an hundreds of other users. 4chan mods refused to acknowledge any of these issues so I refuse to support their site. Fuck 4chan and the staff.
No.175448
>>174952Honestly might be the best post I've ever seen on Kissu.
No.175450
>>174952Dishonestly might be the best post I've ever seen on Kissu.
No.175455
>>174952Dishonestly might be the worst post I've ever seen on Kissu.
No.175463
>>175056I've made the argument at length that /a/'s demographic shifted radically from the fansub days into the official streaming era, 100% from the selection effect.
People understand eternal september. They understand the demographics of literally anyone with a cheap cellphone vs who could be on broadband in the 00's. They should also understand the guy with a dozen or so subgroup sites bookmarked he's lurking, maybe an rss reader aggregating those plus some trackers, a dcc leeching bot setup, a few channels/forums/imageboards he's lurking: he's a different sort of guy than the dude who just opens up CR or one of the pirate streams.
No.175511
>>175456/v/polfags have been preoccupied with the war lately so that might be part of the reason why activity has seemingly died down in the past few days.
No.175538
What the fuck is us-cdnbo.org? It seems to be a new tracker
No.175850
>>175538cdnbo
I assume it's a joke on "danbo" which it seems to have replaced, I think it was part of their ad server
No.175851
>>174926>2014-2018Bastards regularly deleted OPTs and even the scanlation and translation threads. You still can't have a /djt/ on /a/it's a fucking shitshow where the moderation actively hinder engagement with the medium.
No.175853
What's the deal with the captcha getting bad gateways and a few of the boards for example /a/ having a two hour old catalog but some active posting?
No.175861
is it me or is the site slower? like loading the captcha and submitting posts.
No.175863
Can't get the captcha to load...
No.175864
Pass users say it's slow as kuso for them too.
So I'd speculate they're doing more antibot stuff.
No.175872
How many are getting "range banned" and told to submit an email or buy a pass this time?
No.175876
>>175875Last time it happened to me I think you get one post a day.
No.175880
>>175861it's so slow it kills any fun. hope it's temporary and the retards fix it.
No.175884
I can't post. Every IP address requires an email address, and when I try to verify one, it already expired by the time I complete the verification process. It's so over.
No.175891
>>175887Every board is below 100% activity. That's crazy.
No.175903
>>175898There's some sort of irony in a 4chan staff member saying "please wait warmly"
No.175909
I can post normally on a barely aged cookie
No.175910
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse [More Info].
>Please verify your e-mail address or try again later.
What should I do, bros?
No.175911
>>175910I just use THAT one mail I have for login into random sites
No.175912
>>175910Free yourself from the shackles of garbage mods and trashy posters and start posting on other imageboards.
No.175914
>>175912Kinda sucks that alternative boards that discuss my favorite hobbies (retro gaming, technology) have no activity at all while the ones on 4chan are full of people who don't actually care about the hobby whatsoever.
No.175915
Let's see how long this'll last. Eventually, everyone's cookies are going to expire.
No.175917
I turned Airplane Mode on and off 1000 times. Every single IP address requires an email address now. I even got an IP address that worked before because I got a warning for a post from 2 days ago on it, but even then no dice. I tried verifying with several email addresses, but every time it said the link was invalid or expired. I don't know how anyone is posting at all. Are they all pass users? It's a bit sad seeing how many people are giving 4chan their bank info even after that sharty hack last year...
No.175918
>1000 times
No.175920
>>175910Is tying your cookies to an email really the only (free) way to get rid of those fake range bans?
No.175921
>>175920They come and go. Right now, they are really aggressive with them as
>>175917 pointed out. You could try waiting it out.
No.175922
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>4chan's last year's AFD prank was about the site pretending to shut down
>two weeks later the gets hacked and it's forced to shut down for days
>this year's AFD prank is about captcha gimmicks and people being filtered by them
>two weeks later a bug with the captcha's gimmicks filters out 80% of the users
April fool's day has turned into a curse that messes up with 4chan in the most poetic way possible.
No.175923
4chan does everything to stop you from posting but every general is the same schizo chatroom spam.
No.175924
>>175923I meant generals are like schizo chatrooms. I'm tired.
No.175926
they got hacked again
No.175927
>>175914Couldn't have more generic "favorite hobbies" if you tried
No.175931
>>175927dumb argumentative shitposter
No.175932
>>175931mad because you don't have real hobbies like having sex and gambling
No.175949
>>175910>What should I do, bros?Don't go to the stockholm syndrome website
>>175922LMAO
No.175952
>>175949>Don't go to the stockholm syndrome websiteEasier said than done when it's the only chan that has any traffic, you either go to 4chan or you don't talk to anybody ever again, that's it those are your choices unless you're gonna become a redditor or discorder or a twitter user
No.175955
>>175953
>kissu
Anon that sounds kinda... you know.
No.175956
Is 4cuties captcha broken or is it just... extremely slow
No.175964
>>175956Right now the captcha works but the backend involving posting is broken. Users are getting extremely slow responses, connection errors, images that fail to load if they're over 1MB, and there are a lot of duplicate posts everywhere.
No.175967
>>175924I know how you feel. my general has a thread-sh!tter who goes through such lengths to shitpost bizarrely that it honestly leaves me baffled as to what his incentive could be.
No.175976
>>175956it's so fucking bad. it's basically unusable.
No.175978
>>175967> it honestly leaves me baffled as to what his incentive could be.If he goes extreme lengths like inventing an imaginary janitor character that is going after him (which is obviously not true because otherwise the schizo wouldn't exist) then it's simply attention. Now, if he's the kind of retard that makes a thread and samefags for three days without anyone even being there to look, then it's most likely trying to spite one individual poster.
No.175979
>>175978I know nothing of the current conversation but
>which is obviously not true because otherwise the schizo wouldn't existIs silly logic with how easy it is to evade bans on 4
No.175980
>>175979and? how would that stop a terminally online janitor? just mass delete, and if that doesn't work, start banning the retards that give the schizo attention
No.175981
From IRC:
[19:33] <manta> Did you guys start using AI to update the site?
[19:33]
ethernutt [[email protected]lace] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.9.1 - https://znc.in]
[19:33] ethernutt_ [
[email protected]ace] has joined #4chan
[19:34] <manta> Actually no, AI would have done a better job
[19:34]
ethernutt_ has changed nick to ethernutt
[19:34] <mule42> i kinda hope they added ai moderation tools.
[19:34] <@yournamehere> we hired this new guy claude
[19:34] <@yournamehere> kind of a kiss ass, tbh
[19:35] spinkle [
[email protected]ouldnt.possibly.fight.
you] has joined #4chan
[19:36] <ktz> seems like it was his brother clod
[19:36] <manta> You *hired* him?
[19:36] <@Faust`> JanAI nipple classification
[19:36] <@Faust`> "yup, it's an areola" just before you're banned for posting your car tire
[19:37] <@yournamehere> /zit/ general in shambles
[19:38] <ayylmao> what was the maintenance from two days ago supposed to do that ended up causing the site to become so slow?
[19:38] <@yournamehere> PvP mode
[19:38] <ayylmao> but now no one can play
>[19:39] <@Faust`> originally it was supposed to make the site faster>[19:39] <@Faust`> but something broke during the upgrade[19:39] <manta> ayylmao, probably more ingenious captcha changes
[19:40] <mule42> or ingenious passive traffic profiling.
[19:40]
anonn [~anonn@B4D1357D:55FC337B:D5304F54:IP] has joined #4chan
[19:40] <@Faust`> angie is going to measure your cock
[19:41] <manta> who is angie
[19:41] <anonn> hey guys anyone knows what to do when hit with the infamous "Access to XMLHttpRequest at 'https://sys.4chan.org/co/post' from origin 'https://boards.4chan.org' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource."
[19:41] <Tekdude> henlo mister 4chan
[19:41] <Tekdude> please fix website
[19:41] <Tekdude> thank u
[19:41] <ComputerTech> >mr h4
[19:41] <ComputerTech> 4chan*
[19:41] * ComputerTech giggles
[19:42] <anonn> still can't believe he named the website after himself
[19:42] <ComputerTech> kek
>[19:42] <@Faust`> Unfortunately the site is a bit borked right now, we hope it will be running smoothly again this evening or tomorrow
[19:43] <manta> I hope so too
>[19:43] <@Faust`> actually alternative said to stop giving out unverified times for stuff, scratch that from memory, maybe keep it in your heart only
[19:43] <manta> nevermind
[19:43] Master_Alucard [
[email protected]4A390DD.7C4E5281.IP] has joined #4chan
[19:43] <@yournamehere> in your kokkoro
[19:44] <ComputerTech> huh
No.175982
None of this affects me because I'm too busy to be posting in the first place
No.175985
>>175984AIEEEEEE WHERE ARE ALL THE SHITPOSTERS?!
No.175987
>>175984Holy h*ck, /jp/ that relatively high?
No.175988
>>175987It's mostly the singular hololive thread.
No.175989
>>175987Mind you most of that activity is from vtumor threads and 3dpd threads the latter of which I'm pretty sure is run by bots.
No.175992
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>>175990Full list. The bots and casuals have been completely filtered. Only the most dedicated autists remain.
/vg/ still being the top board is funny.
No.175993
>>175990/lgbt/ is higher than /g/ lol
No.175994
>>175993/g/ has turned into one of the worst boards on the site.
No.175996
>>175991it's done for comedy. making "heck" a censored swear is a funny quip that has been going on for years before tiktok ever existed.
No.175997
>>175994What happened? Is it related to AI? Haven't been in 4chan for a while
No.175998
>>175997Somewhat. It's just that no one there can ever bring up a topic that they're interested in without an hyperbolic clickbait OP. The general demoralization posting. All hobbyism or any enthusiasm considered "tinker norm". Even the desktop and ricing threads died. A wholly negative place.
No.175999
>>175996all i knew was that they used it and its gay af, i didnt know it had been around for a while, thanks for the lore unc
>>175997stop going there years ago but i remember there having much more tech illiterates than before spamming the same garbage across every thread, a lot of shitslinging about AI, regardless of the discussion, i also think the janitors and mods have also given up for some time there before the raid
No.176000
I can't get past Cloudflare captcha on 4chan. I was on a loop for 30min, even after disabling all extensions, until I gave up. I now have to use incognito mode everytime I want to post.
Though, it seems to not be a 4chan thing, I'm on a loop on every websites that use the captcha.
No.176001
>>176000That happened to me and iirc my solution was to create a new Firefox profile.
No.176003
>>175987it's hololive and 3d generals
>>175990>>175992¥/pol/ with 8 ppmNever thought I'd see the day
>>175997Nta but it devolved into endless bait threads, AI general spam, twitter screenshot threads, eceleb drama, being used as a meta board for the proxy website, and having terrible moderation even for 4chan standards. Have a fastman I found on lainchan.
No.176004
¥ppm jumped up again
I think they might've slightly unfucked things. I wonder if this debacle will lead to another big hit to the overall userbase or not.
No.176005
>>175997It's FULL of schizos constantly fighting for who has the better AI general, it got so bad they even tried to involve the one over at /jp/ via falseflagging, despite everyone there very clearly unanimously agreeing to not want to have anything to do with /g/. Hell, they don't even want anything to do with the rest of /jp/ to begin with.
No.176010
>>176003Is this the "late millennial autist stuck in the 2014" image?
No.176029
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Only the cancer is allowed to post.
No.176030
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>>176029And just like an orgasm after a long tease, all of the posts that got stuck in limbo for an hour suddenly appeared at the same time.
No.176035
Sometimes I wish 4chan just died during the hack. At least then I could sort of cope with the state of the site but now it just feels malicious.
No.176074
>>176073Glass stones? They're pretty!
No.176155
Is 4chan down why am I getting a 403 error?
No.176156
>>176155Working fine for me.
No.176160
>>175955kinda moe. i might check it out
No.176419
>>176418Mods should be more hands on and do public humiliations aside from OPs
No.176437
Anybody joining MTA soon?
No.176441
>>176437Yeah, not sure how long though, I am quite tired.
No.176443
>>176442(I've been awake for 16 hours now and plan on sitting through the whole thing)
No.176446
>>176437Whenever it goes up I will be
No.176459
>>176456I was sitting around all day doing nothing. How did I miss this.
No.176859
Cool fear and hunger thread that plays music and spawns a little dude at the bottom of your screen
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/737912308Still waiting on that "summer" update for termina
No.176865
>>176859Wish more people on kissu played funger because it's a pretty great series. Love the hardcore elements and the trial and error way of figuring out the game slowly as it opens up to be way more than one would expect from the small RPG maker title it appears to be at first.
No.176873
>>176865>the trial and errorI like F&H a lot but that part of it sucks, most of the time its not very fun to die and lose progress to something completely unpredictable or a bad coinflip, especially in a game with limited saving
Except for the toilet pit in 1, that was kinda funny No.176874
>>176873I disagree. The trial and error part adds to the game in how it makes the journey to that first victory so much more rewarding only to tell you it was just the beginning of Funger and the real trials are still ahead.
No.177019
>>177017>>177018>jannies and mods enforce rules according their personal preferencesstop the press dude, this is big.
No.177035
>>177017Plenty of people went out debunked him.
It more or less rounds out to russia having far more threads and most of them made by schizos and spammers. Mods aren't biased but rather operating out of inertia of years of Russia threads being shitfests
No.177036
>>176857You can thank pedophile spammers for that
No.177113
Any idea why archived.moe, thebarchive.com and archiveofsins.com might all be down?
No.177114
>>176857if you post with the same cookies for long enough you eventually only need to clear one simple puzzle
No.177138
>>177036On this note, and this isn't me asking for advice on breaking some kuso site's rules: How the hell is the proxy spam kuso even possible? I've never seen anything like it for any imageboard/forum/website. Clearly from what I've seen there's some insanely abused API endpoint being accessed that they could just cut off to fix the problem here, no?
No.177140
>>177138What exactly is the confusion for, even? If you can post on a website you can bot/proxy on a website.
No.177142
>>177138the person responsible has seemingly bottomless funds and just buys residential IPs to do it with. since a lot of these residential proxy companies are chinese or slavic, they don't care when 4chan complains.
No.177143
>>177140>>177142Its a different thing I'm referring to, there were mentions explicitly of a "proxy site" in the past in this thread (and elsewhere where people have complained about it) that people apparently post on to bypass 4chan blocks and bans, not necessarily talking about the use of residential proxies themselves on the actual 4chan website.
No.177151
>>177143that's what i'm talking about too. it's just a frontend to residential proxies to post CSAM on 4chan with.
No.177169
>>177142You don't have to pay per IP. You can buy traffic with access to pool of millions of IPs around the world.
No.177213
>>177138Remember Hola, Tuxtler and other "free VPNs apps" from the 2010s?
They were owned by companies exploiting legal gray areas to commit cybercrime.
When you installed those apps you agree in their tos to install a backdoor that lets them use your IP/connection remotely.
So Hola is a standard VPN with their own IP block. The owners of Hola, an israeli company named Bright Data, collects all these remote IPs and sells access to them as a "Residential VPN". This is basically renting a tool for cybercriminals to be untraceable. It can't be easily legislated away because it crosses international barriers and requires congressmen to understand the finer print of a bunch of tech kuso they don't care for.
All real VPNs except for a few obscure ones (or ones that rent residential IP blocks from an ISP but its not like 4chan is above blocking those up) are blocked pretty comprehensively. Residential VPNs on the other hand are impossible to block, you can only detect them and require an actual heuristics package to do so.
That's how 4chan and Kiwifarms dealt with these new spammers, a service called Spur specializes in infiltrating and studying this networks does a bunch of heuristics on every IP to determine if they are compromised residential VPN endpoints and then developers do additional analytics to specifically detect if they come from a known spammer group.
No.177214
But that's jsut the basics.
The guy
>>177142 speaks about paid for resVPNs and hosted a complicated frontend wrapper that used bots to build thousands of session cookies and stored them for people to post. Before spur was brought in it was so sophisticated you could solo scriptspam a board until it hit the old crapflood rate limit they implemented to deal with the google captcha bypass.
No.177225
>>177213i wouldn't even be shocked if Spur was also owned by a resproxy provider too
No.177229
>>177225the owners are pretty well known in the cybsec scene, i'd say no.
No.177300
What does it mean when I see someone say ¨/qa/ lost¨? I took a break from imageboards at the time and left qa when it was being inundated with soyjack spam.
No.177301
>>177300IDK, it's some wojack party term around 4/qa/ getting deleted I guess.
No.177302
>>177300X Lost/Won is literally just that. It's used to "point the obvious" against anyone's argument.
Pretty sure it's not a sharty original but I can't saw how it started for my life.
No.177311
>>177300Either that soyteens lost to the 4chan administration or that they lost the culture war (or both)
It's usually just said as a shitpost.
>>177302I'm pretty sure it originated as "Trump Lost" following the 2020 election.
No.177415
4chan needs to add all of the 8chan stuff. Why the fuck can you only post 1 picture still? And still no meta board. I know 4chan is just for scraping and ai training but cmon at least make it worth using.
No.177423
So... How's 4chan? Nowadays?
No.177424
>>177415>Why the fuck can you only post 1 picture still?It only really matters on imagedump boards and they won't put in effort just for them.
>And still no meta board.4chan staff are allergic to criticism. Why would they make a board that would be mostly about how they're doing a bad job?
No.177425
>>177423/jp/'s still as bad as it was when I decided to come here, if not worse. We have crossboarding schizos now too.
No.177426
>>177425>Crossboarding schizos That isn't always the case in /jp/ for as far as I remember? I'm primaly a /o/fag.
No.177427
>>177425It's worse, I feel.
The only reason why I still use it is because unfortunately many of the threads didn't really take hold here.
No.177429
>>177426It definitely didn't use to be as bad as it is now.
No.177448
>>177429I used to hear that everytime. It's kinda hard to believe.
No.177458
>>1774158trash is even worse than 4cutie
No.177478
>>177472¥not using an adblockeronly the normest of norm norm norps do this kuso, and they deserve worse
No.177480
>>177478He's a phone poster, please understand
No.177482
>>177481
Then how do you download porn games from notamaliciouswebsite.ru without getting a virus
No.177566
/r/ possibly deleted forever. It's no longer mentioned in the global rules
https://4chan.org/rules#global16 No.177571
>>177566>>177570what's interesting is that if you try going to /r/ you get a different error message than the 404 you get when trying with /qa/ (or a random string of letters that was never a board in the first place)
No.177572
>>177571Do you mean the "File not found." I noticed it too but I doubt it means anything. It might just be a placeholder until they correct the stickies/banner so that they don't redirect to nothingness.
No.177573
URL format has changed, it seems, they add words from the OP after the thread number.
Like this:
https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/105076684/this-board-is-for-the-discussion-of-technology No.177576
>>177573For what purpose? It's not like any of the threads on 4chan will remain there for a long time.
No.177579
looks like /b/ is pulling double duty from here
No.177581
>>177573Weren't they adding slugs for a period back during the 4channel split? Or at least I remember the scripts had an option to strip the slugs out of URLs.
>>177576It's done for SEO. Google still prioritizes serving up fresh pages in results, at least until it turns into full AI kuso.
No.177590
>>177581>done for SEOWait wut? Do 4chan threads even show up in search engine results? I've never seen one.
No.177592
>>177590Sometimes they appear when I reverse search an image that has been recently posted on 4chan.
No.177609
They opened janitor applications again. I wonder if anyone will be dumb enough to apply after the whole staff got doxxed last year.
No.177610
>>177609Already? Don't think it's even been a year since they last opened applications.
> I wonder if anyone will be dumb enough to apply after the whole staff got doxxed last year.As long as there are power hungry nerds there will be jannies and reddit mods.
No.177611
aren't the boards depopulated now and there's multiple hoops for chronic shitposters to go through?
is janny burnout that bad or something?
No.177647
>>177611I've been a frequent poster on the /vr/ board since covid and now I can't post whatsoever but apparently I'm not the only one - the board looks all but dead now
No.177649
Isn't /vr/ mostly consisted of 30+ millenials? Might be the reason why it's a decent board.
No.177656
>>177647I also used to post on /vr/ almost daily while repeating the mantra
"don't go to /v/, you are happier here" (That was the year of Concord and /v/ was highly populated by sharties at the time, so it was even more toxic than usual).
Guess I'm not the only that left for greener pastures.
No.177657
>>177650
There was legal action?
No.177658
>>177649>decent board/vr/'s quality has been on a downward trend ever since the hack (and probably before it tbh). There's some fair threads but too much of the board is noise for me to call it decent. I still lurk it daily because I have a link to it on my browser's start page.
I liked the Doom thread but I haven't visited it in years. Don't know how much has changed. My last visit there was in between the release of Hard Fast Faggot Maps and Violent Rumble.
No.177662
>>177649Mortifying: Millennials now blame kohais for culture sucking
No.177673
>>177611>>177647Take a look at
https://4stats.io/ some boards (like /fit/ or /ck/) have really died and have activity lower than they did in 2009
No.177674
>>177658>/vr/'s quality has been on a downward trend ever since the hacksad but true. there was a janny ruling with an iron fist that helped to keep the board clean but now he's gone and the usual schizos have free hand in shitting up the board.
No.177676
>>177662Not really, retro media just can't retroactively start sucking for us.
No.177731
>>177674>sad but true. there was a janny ruling with an iron fist that helped to keep the board clean but now he's gone and the usual schizos have free hand in shitting up the board.rip retro fps's guardian angel of twitchy death he's thoroughly missed
No.177756
Maybe it's a bit off-topic to complain about this, but I guess this is a 4chan meta thread and this is related to 4chan. First I want to clarify I don't "follow" any eceleb or care about influencers past a surface level "this guy makes videos I watch sometimes". I don't care about who they are, their lives or whatever. So let's say I want to discuss video essays made by Poopyhead123. Why shouldn't I be able to do it on either /tv/ (yes, YouTube IS the new TV) or a board dedicated to internet culture? VTumors got their own board, but apparebtly asking for a board where I can discuss videos or stuff I see online unrelated to 3DPD grifters cashing on lonely men is taboo? The only argument I have ever seen around is:
¥But what if doxxing!?
Gee, I don't know... Maybe ban them? Delete such posts? Just like doxxing and raiding are banned accross the site no prob. Hell, I'm sure /vt/ has more issues regarding doxxing than any internet culture board could ever have.
Also an internet culture board wouldn't even have to be restricted to videos. All those Twitter threads infesting other boards could go there, meta discussions over social media and forums, sharing memes, making OC... Lots of possibilities. But no, we can't have an internet culture board because reasons.
No.177761
>>177756I'd say go to /trash/ but nowadays you might post it on /v/, /pol/ or any other plebbit board and be fine.
No.177771
>>177757
They say that about every board covering a topic they don't like and it's never true. Giving a group a home doesn't stop them, it helps them grow even more. It's done because giving in to them means they can't rage around with no regard to the rules anymore because the rules now benefit them. It's done when the mods can't be bothered to stop them anymore.
No.177801
>>177758Considering the whole hiroshimooot vtuber contest that happened (and then died), /vt/ was probably just added because vtubers were getting extremely popular culturally. Not much else to it.
>>177771/vp/ and /mlp/ are (were in the case of the latter) definitely containment boards in the established sense, even though /vp/ is one of the boards that varies the most in PPH (in that it has some of the highest spikes relative to recent happenings). Arguably /mlp/ is one of the first such examples of that kind of containment board approach, at least in the west.
No.177802
>>177756Also sorry to double post but while your point is in good faith, an internet culture board would almost assuredly just be a rehash of /pol/ but with even more twitter screencaps.
For every anon that'd make a post about youtubers they're watching or spheres of content online they have an interest in, there'd be about a 100 others arguing about Hasan Piker and other such kuso in threads spanning 300 replies. The same thing that currently plagues 4chan (flatlining of site-based internet culture and politicization of all online discourse) is the same thing that makes that kind of board both redundant and unappealing.
No.177818
Happening: quints on /qa/ >>177777
No.177908
>>177907People verify their email on 4channel??
No.177909
>>177908it's pretty much impossible to post if you don't
No.177910
>>177909is this a mobile thing? never happened to me.
No.177911
>>177910I post on mobile and all I get is the captcha that takes like 3-5 seconds, not sure what anons talking about
No.177912
>>177909EEEE MAJI
EASY MODO!?
No.177913
i stopped visiting for a month due to travel so my cookies expired, now they're giving me the hard captcha
it's probably for the best that i spend less time there anyway
No.177914
>>177910i get 3 to 5 captchas I have to fill out then it says that my cable range has been range banned
No.177915
Also my VPN that was working got banned probably from some auto scan
No.177940
God damn the mods over at 4/jp/ are actually just fucking worthless
No.177941
>>177915Wait, you had a VPN that was working?! What is that precious thing?
No.177944
>>177943Nothing new, just wanted to vent my frustration somewhere.
No.177945
What did the 4chinners do this April Fools?
No.177946
>>177945Ripped off wapchan's captcha.
>>174893 No.177947
>>177946Alright, I remember now.
No.177976
The rangebans got so crazy I don't even try to post in there anymore. Should stop lurking since I get irritated when I start typing and then I remember the post won't get through. Thank God
No.177977
>>177941All my VPN are company expenses, self hosted out of datacenters.
No.178041
I finally got baited into making a post on 4chan after 6 months of thinking the captcha is too much to be worth it and now it's even more fucking retarded by a factor of 10. How are they getting any posts at all with this nonsense?
No.178111
>>177480I just got Brave when I couldn't get adblock to work on my phone back then.
The pop-up nsfw video ads was the thing that got me to get block ads on 4chan totally. I couldn't browse /ic/ in peace.
No.178112
>>177611My IP range gets pretty often hits with bans for some reason. I can post via phone on mobile data unless I get an IP with spur.us still locked - I just can't be arsed to turn off the adblock.
No.178113
>>178041It apparently adjusts if you post enough. I only need to identify one difference now on my computer. And often I'm just automatically verified for some number of posts until I need to do one difference again.
No.178114
Pretty bizarre to see /r/ gone when it was such a deeply ingrained part of the rules.
No.178115
>>177757
>grapeape
RapeApe
No.178116
>>178114AIjeets are just that bad, apparently
No.178117
>>178113>I only need to identify one difference now on my computer.I always browse in incognito mode, so I normally get 3-4 challenges each time I want to post. I'm used to this.
No.178120
>>178115GayApe
>>178117A while before the hack they stopped allowing picture uploads in incognito, so that's annoying.
No.178163
>>173224he said daycare i think
No.178164
Is lainchan the only alternative for /g/?
No.178165
>>178164In terms of imageboards? Yeah.
No.178166
>>178165in another ib i use a anon mentioned a /tech/ on a ib he uses but he refused to link it :(
No.178167
>>178164It has no activity whatsoever.
No.178221
Entered the sports board out of curiosity to see cringe news about the american world cup and... Is it a /pol/ board just while the sports event lasts, or has this been going on for a long time?
No.178266
>>178233Oh hey it's not just sakamichi and hololive for once.
No.178449
Yesterday was the most directly hostile 4/jp/ jannying I can recall seeing. The holospammer reposted like 15 threads from the archive within a span of an hour to get his Holo OP (because 15 threads in 60 minutes is a natural pace for /jp/, right?). An anon posts in each thread a picture to show its a repost from the archive. Those posts get deleted but the threads remain up. More anons post in Warosu ghost saying they're getting warned/banned for false reports for reporting these threads.
>>178233 died because it was right next to the old Holo thread in the catalog the spammer wanted to bump off.
No.178481
>>178449the jannigger is the holospammer, how is this new?
No.178492
always funny to see a schizo meltdown when you propose an alternative site where he'd actually get banned for doing that kuso all day, every day.
No.178494
>>178233Someone in the thread said threads on /v/ about the remake were getting deleted; that contributed to the activity, but the mods didn't sticky it, and then
>>178449 happened.
>>178492¥But muh activity!I accept the argument to an extent, but often it comes off like they prefer getting soyquoted in 10 seconds than deal with a (You) withdrawal.
No.178500
>>178498The fakeneet era
induced by "global concerns"
No.178712
>>178693I was about to come here to bring up the exact same thing.
It's dire.
No.178792
>>178498looking at 4stats hololive invaded and spewed filth all over the original board It briefly competed at /a/'s level and almost /b/ but never close to /pol/. Until mods beheaded it by creating /vt/ before returning to its usual status between /k/ and /adv/
No.178793
>>1786934/jp/ is dead because the mods killed it. please don't go back now and tarnish those old memories.
No.178975
I got banned from 4chan for triggering some reddit faggot janny by refusing to worship roasties. I suppose I could just reset my router and delete my cookies, but I'd probably just get banned again soon. 4chan is gay as kuso now, that is all.(You will still get murdered off this site if you show your /r9k/ colors.)
No.178979
>>178975I had to search the therm to confirm it was not about roast comedy or roasting coffee. What I don't get is why would someone bother with engaging in that kind of conversation.
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. The least time you spend on 4chan, the better.
No.178981
for anyone that doesn't know, roasties refer to roast beef, which is what some vaginas look like
No.178988
>>178975for a long while now I can post from one laptop but on the other I am recorded as blocked by range ban.
It seems to vary which one.
No.179040
>>178975It should have been a permanent rangeban just for the cancerous way you talk.
No.179042
>>178981¥Caring about 3dpd to begin withHe's a lost cause.
No.179234
>>179232The problem, in my opinion, was that plenty of users didn't know about the migration / didn't want to migrate.
And so the threads typical for 4/jp/ didn't really take on, so some people got bored.
Though I'd say that there are more people now who use both kissu and 4/jp/.
No.179236
>>179235I wish people actually stayed in one place and kept it alive instead of splitting into numerous ones for no reason. I hate people.
No.179238
>>179237
Delusional, really. People are split into too many places whether 4 is there or not.
I'd rather people just dealt with the couple kuso things about 4 instead of what we have now where every place is a crawl.
No.179240
>>179239
I don't know if you realize but 4 is just as dead as this or some other chans at the moment. It might actually even be slower than here.
A surge of activity when it actually goes down is because it's a happening.
Either way, it's this migration mentality that killed every place in the end. I'll have fun refreshing ten different chans just to hopefully see one post because everyone thinks their own shithole is the best one. Yippie.
No.179242
>>179241
>are you kidding me
>feel free to go to
Yeah, it seems like you're having trouble believing 4jp is deader than here.
No.179243
>>179242>4jp is deader than hereKissu still sometimes goes over an hour without any posts (sometimes hours), 4/jp/ isnt THAT dead
No.179244
>>179243If you take away the 3DPD threads and the generals that anyone with half a brain immediately filters, it's either the same speed or slower.
Sorry but it's what it is.
No.179246
>>179245
The topic was /jp/. Of course nobody believes that the whole site is that slow.
>stats
Again, those are 99% 3DPD generals and vtumors. You have no idea what you're talking about.
No.179248
>>179247
They literally are. You can stop speaking now.
No.179251
4/jp/ meta talk has been moved into this thread from the blog thread.
No.179252
"Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse "
The fuck happened?
What kind of abuse are they talking about?
I'm not giving them my email.
No.179253
>>179252Self-abuse (you tried to post on 4chan)
No.179254
>>179249
¥rapeape-sama please let me shitpost as a janny, I will even do it for free!
No.179257
>>179252It's probably a false positive because their anti-bot heuristics are set too aggressively. The last time that happened, you could unblock yourself by loosening certain privacy protections in your browser. I think you had to allow canvas fingerprinting, disable first party isolation and use a non-private window.
Just tried that with a new browser profile last night, but it no longer works for me. Strangely, I can still report posts. A real rangeban blocks reporting too, IIRC.
Did you have an aged cookie before you got blocked? (That is: were you getting the 1-round captcha with 3 easy pics and one "Verification not required" after every post?) I think those used to bypass fake rangebans, but I can't confirm because my only 4chan cookie was on a laptop that died.
No.179258
>>179252>>179257If it's still true or not I don't know, but they were/are still throwing that message at people entirely at random for new cookies. I have tripped it a few times but I post rarely and always in incognito mode so my cookies never save
No.179260
>>179257>Did you have an aged cookie before you got blocked? (That is: were you getting the 1-round captcha with 3 easy pics and one "Verification not required" after every post?) I think those used to bypass fake rangebans, but I can't confirm because my only 4chan cookie was on a laptop that died.Did they fuck with the captcha again? I was away for bit over a week, before it was just one image, now it's 3?
Anyway cookie did reset while I was away(at least I think) so I had to do the harder ones for the first couple of times, though after that I only got those that you've mentioned.
Maybe I posted too much?
No.179645
what happens if someone pays but doesn't bend the knee to ofcom's demands? do the penalties start again from the beginning?
No.179646
>>179645Actually what happens if they don't even pay the fine? Can they even do anything legally if it's hosted somewhere else outside of the UK?
No.179647
have you got a loicense for that imageboard m8
No.179648
>>179646no. 4chan even needing a lawyer for this is ridiculous.
No.179651
Whole affair is just excuse for british goverment to brand the site as criminal and to block the site nation wide. They never expected to get payment.
No.179735
The state of 4chan actually makes me sad. It's like a reanimated corpse. Even in 2015 it wasn't this fucking bad.
No.179736
>>1797352015 was 19 years ago...
No.179737
It's funny they haven't made new wordfilters yet.
No.179738
>>179737That implies the mods actually give a kuso to moderate the site
No.179742
>>179736Anon... It was 50.
No.179743
>>17974250 was way more than 19 years ago.
No.179744
That "Martin Random" guy from Something Awful who claimed to have been /b/'s creator seems to have privated all of his videos. Only a few shorts remain:
https://www.youtube.com/@falconryfinance/featured He also deleted his xitter account (pic related).
My guess is that he got threatened with legal action by either moot himself or a current 4chan staff member.
Did anyone here happen to save the "True history of 4chan" one where he mentions that moot met with Epstein before it was revealed to the public?
No.179746
>>179744I never followed closely but from what I can tell he oicked fights fast and loose with at least a few people so it’s not surprising.
I just casually mentioned his X handle once on a lighthearted topic and some random schizo spammed me (and him?) with several chain replies of kuso I didn’t understand, assuming I knew him personally or something.
No.179768
>>179744I've followed 4chan history for quite some time and I don't ever remember hearing about this guy. /b/ was just Anime/Random in the beginning.
>Did anyone here happen to save the "True history of 4chan" one where he mentions that moot met with Epstein before it was revealed to the public?Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knows.
No.179773
>>179768>Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knows.He did, but that guy seems like a schizo so he was probably just making it up.
No.179790
>>179746Yeah, I remember people posting him arguing with what looked like A-san on xitter, and A-san said he did know him and met with him before, which would add legitimacy to his claims.
>>179768>Doesn't seem likely that Moot ever met with Epstein, but who knowshttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA02179976.pdfhttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00922817.pdfhttps://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01848168.pdfHe even came forward to deny Epstein had anything to do with the creation of /pol/:
https://www.theverge.com/tech/879132/moot-4chan-jeffrey-epstein-meeting-pol>I met with him one time for an unmemorable lunch meeting>I did not meet him again nor maintain contactThat's one thing he's lying about, because the e-mails imply they met at least two or three times.
>>179773'Coincidences' of this magnitude don't happen randomly.
No.179802
>>179790does this guy just hunt down and meet with literally everyone? author(s) of SICP met with him as well i think
No.179803
>>179802big E was in the buisness of building connections
No.179804
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>>179790Those files are questionable. Not that the DoJ gives a fuck since they're complicit.
>>179802Yes, he was in the blackmailing and (human) networking business, though its wrong to call it business since he was really subsidized by one... government.
No.179806
>>179804I will also say that its very weird that of all things this is what brought Moot out into the world again when he was radio silent for years and years.
Maybe its not that weird, really. Lots of huge pieces of kuso that willingly associated with Epstein eventually did 180s in public as PR-esque damage control.
>I didn't actually like Epstein or anything. Yes, yes it was a mistake and I didn't know what I was getting into :^)Like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, etc.
No.179807
Epstein involved in letitimate and shady business. He was ultimately just a guy who built connections with everyone with some degree of influence in order to be the guy with a foot in the door with everyone.
Leaving the worst assumption off the table, would someone assume that the owner of 4chan has such a high moral compass that they would refuse to meet with the sketchy billionaire... Presuming they even knew who he was
No.179808
>>179807He wasn't just some guy.
And what's weird about Moot meeting him is that he isn't some famous CEO, politician, scientist, or anything like that, just someone who built a clone of a Japanese imageboard when he was a 15 year old shitposter. In addition, he doesn't look as though he has been truthful about meeting Epstein
>>179790 and of all things decided to come out of the shadows to tell everyone that he definitely regretted meeting him.
No.179810
I'm a bit conspiracy (read:schizo) minded so I know that if super elites are meeting up with you, that person was already in those circles. Either military intelligence, high ranking bankers, royal family, etc. These kind of guys absolutely do not rub shoulders with peasants.
With the large amount of cultural influence (aka manipulation) that 4chan has on people and the internet in general, it makes me wonder if m00t and his family really aren't who they say they are. That extends to 4chan too. It's a scary thought. /blog
No.179812
>>179808Epstein had no power aside from information. He just met with people.
You're making it seem like meeting with him was like meeting with the chief of the illuminati.
No.179813
>>179812Information is power. Knowledge is power for a reason.
No.179819
>>179744>claimed to have been /b/'s creator What? wouldn't /b/'s creator obviously just be moot?
No.179820
>>179808>And what's weird about Moot meeting him is that he isn't some famous CEO, politician, scientist, or anything like that, just someone who built a clone of a Japanese imageboard when he was a 15 year old shitposter.Moot may not have been a teenage tech savant, but his site
was influential at the time, and that was enough.
No.179821
>>179802Not surprising since he was connected with big tech people like Bill Gates and Elon Musk.
>>179808In Epstein's own words: "the potential for manipulation is huge" (pic related), meaning he was clearly looking at moot and 4chan from a social engineering point of view. I'm only going to post pics from now on instead of directly linking to the files since someone pointed it might not be so safe to access them directly (even if it's from an official source). Gotta remember that 4chan got hacked through a pdf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHL5XLYTADgAlso, when someone asked "Martin Random" about "what was 4chan even for", he replied with "large scale psychological operations", which is how Epstein saw it as well.
>>179813You're most likely talking to a gaslighter trying to run a damage control narrative for the 4chan staff. All of those crooks should be investigated by Interpol along with moot. It has been clear for a long time that 4chan stopped being a hobbyist site long ago. All hobby boards are dead/dying.
No.179823
Something Awful and 4chan could've just been one big data harvester/psyop. I wasted so many years on there... it scares me that this is probably true
No.179825
I fucking hate precures
No.179827
>>179821Oof, that's so interesting yet not surprising at all. Thankfully I've always only lurked, and haven't been to that place for years! (ok, maybe only for porn sometimes...)
No.179829
>>179825Uhh only the glowing ones of course
No.179830
Is it conspiratard hours or something
/pol/ was made because /new(s)/ got canned. Yes I definitely believe epstein psyopped you with 4chan to hate all the things he supports
Just people with an axe to grind developing post-hoc explanations for things they want to fit into a nice convenient narrative (Epstein created 4chan....and then they sell you whatever bridge is arrived at from that conclusion)
No.179831
>>179830Not saying eppy created it all by himself. Not even saying he cared. But there's definitely some very powerful people who were strangely interested in a site like 4chan. Epstein's drinking buddies maybe.
No.179834
>>179831There's been federal interest in western imageboards (re:4chan and 4x2chan) since terrorists decided they were good dumping grounds for manifestos and calls to violence. There's the whole popular image of some politician (was it Hillary?) reading a physical print out of 4chan posts, and of course the prior documented evidence of an actual FBI agent posting on 8chan and failing horribly at their job (+ all the janitors who had .gov emails or whatever). I don't think there's much strange about it.
No.179837
>>179830Hey, you good with that strawman, dude? Are you moot's boyfriend or something?
>Yes I definitely believe epstein psyopped you with 4chan to hate all the things he supportsHe was deeply involved with 'alt-right' people like Steve Bannon. And a Norm supporting neo-nazi bullshit is actually not that uncommon. "Weev" which "Martin Random" also mentioned is a Normish neo-nazi that he claims to have played a part in convincing moot to house neo-nazi bullshit on his site:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev No.179847
>>179831a lot of powerful people were looking at 4chan. i suspect this is part of the reason moot suddenly dropped it.
>>179837weev 100% glows. he was talking about palantir tier tech all the way back into the early 2010s.
No.179857
>>179837weev was /i/ related and nobody knew or gave a kuso about his white supremacy at the time, because a man as ridiculous as him was not taken seriously on a political level, and 4chan hated politics thorough the 00s, when weev was anywhere close to relevance. Anyone who speaks of weev in the 10s is just lost.
Martin is a schizo circlejerker and half of team knew this, you can literally read them on old.sage.moe calling MR a weirdo in the open if you look him up. He was only a mod because he was 24/7 working /b/ and he was part of moot's IRL clique. While i think he is right that moot was an angry little twerp, the rest is literal slander because moot ghosted him during an emergency and he never forgave him. moot like weev because he was an /i/ troll as, again, nobody gave a kuso about his neo side. Politics were anti-lulz
moot hanged out with epstein because the TIME 2009 prank threw up to stardom and he could no longer hide while attending university. He was some NY middle class urbanite, who was also a shut in who spent 99% of his free time watching anime, suddenly exchanging sweat with the cream of silicon valley and NYC editorial. He was not gonna say no to the richest guy he'll even speak to.
And you can see his actual political leaning with the people he worked with: moot worked at the ultra-liberal buzzfeed, who were some of the FIRST pushers progressive clickbait. He worked there because he was sucking off Ben Lerer, who went onto angel-finance canv.as together with a bunch of other globohomo lads, the further right of which was anderseen and he only became a trumpist years after canvas died. The right-most person in moot's circle is maybe swaglord, otherwise his "childhood friend" was literally Mallory Blair who worked at fucking Gawker. That's two separate left-leaning globohomo outlet he was peripheral to.
>Are you moot's boyfriend or something? I WISH
No.179858
it's weird that Epstein supposedly created and engineered a board that would be obsessed with bringing the crimes and conspiracies of him and his cooperators to light. if the political board never existed, there probably wouldn't be half as much interest in uncovering the truth behind his island and his friends. total backfire
No.179859
>>179857Ok, but you sound like an actual 4chan staff member (kinda blew your cover there, didn't you), and therefore I have no reason to believe you're being impartial about this.
And yeah, moot himself was 'liberal/progressive' and hanged out with liberals/progressives, but money still talks. He obviously didn't like having to host /pol/ on the site. So much that he had a mental breakdown over it and nuked the board, causing a massive exodus to 8chan at the time. So it's almost as if it were an external force with a lot power and money forcing him to do it. Hmm.
No.179860
>>179859I just did my homework. You are not the first to asks these questions. old.sage.moe is a god send.
And if you want an actual ex-4mod posting, you have
>>179559> but money still talks. you underestimate how much of an autistic shut in moot is.
moot explicitly said he added /pol/ because he felt guilty over screwing his own communities over and a fight with Sherrod DeGrippo, the original founder of ED who killed the ED community because they were unmonetizable, made him decide to bring it back.
https://4chan.org/4channews?all#106>In January 2011, I fucked up. Frustrated with /r9k/ and /new/, I removed them from the site. It took this exchange (continued here) months later with the founder of Encyclopedia Dramatica for me to realize how wrong I was. Shortly after, I re-added them and apologized to the community.https://archive.org/details/roflconsummit-iu?start=2412His autism is also why the site never had pop-up ads or redirects until Hiro happened.
>So much that he had a mental breakdown over it and nuked the board, causing a massive exodus to 8chan at the timeInfinity didn't exist in 2011. Neither did their mom & dad Wizardchan and Vichan net.
savetheintenet made 4chon as a /r9k/ + /pol/ bunker and that site died a year later, predictably, after moot brought back both boards. The exodus you speak of happens in 2014 during the peak of the culture war.
Real answer should be that /pol/ was brought back a day BEFORE moot meet epstein. He was shitposting with fags in Oct 23 7:00 AM then meet Epstein the same afternoon. Boris was asking Epstein about moot in Oct 24th 15:00. They either met up on 23th's afternoon, or morning in the 24th.
Proof courtesy of Rumia's research:
https://archive.tinychan.net/read/prog/1319370209Not only you have precedent of moot being crippled by his own ethics and a reason with DeGrippo's exchange that explains why moot did it, the dates don't actually add up.
If money talked, moot wouldn't have had to suck left-leaning Lerer's dick for a measly million in start up funding.
No.179862
the entire moot-epstein connection just points to moot wanting to hit it big in the NYC tech scene and wanting investors. i don't really blame him and would've gladly donated to 4chan if he still ran it today.
No.179863
>>179860>savetheintenet made 4chon as a /r9k/ + /pol/ bunker and that site died a year laterthere's something incredibly fucked up about the fact that most imageboards today actually run on forks of his code.
No.179864
>>179860>you underestimate how much of an autistic shut in moot isYeah, an "autistic shut in" that gives TED talks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_1UEAGCo30 Get real, you clown.
>moot explicitly said he added /pol/ because he felt guilty over screwing his own communities over and a fight with Sherrod DeGrippo, the original founder of ED who killed the ED community because they were unmonetizable, made him decide to bring it backAnd I don't buy that now given the new information. It sounds like a coverup.
No.179865
>>179864>Get real, you clown. lol is this MR
anyway his body language is really uncomfortable through most of that
No.179867
>>179863ey, respect tinyboard.
Though personally i prefer
tinybbs>>179864Yes, after 4chan made him famous and people in his circle and university were peer pressuring him to become "someone", because 4chan 2008-2012 was literally reinventing Internet culture, and at the time people were convinced "internet culture" meant something. Even then all his panels are fucking forced, trust me, i watched them all. Why do you think he straight up disappeared as soon as dropped canvas and 4chan?
There's a funny one here. Before he was outed as Christopher Poole there were people from Virginia college complaining that he was a shut in.
https://old.sage.moe/b/thread/33017821/#33020001Bonus points if you find the angry moot anonpost telling him to fuck off.
>It sounds like a coverup.Unfortunately, vibes don't beat facts. The evidence is all archived.
No.179869
>>179865>lol is this MRNo, it's not, but I'm sure moot tried to sue that guy already given his recent scrubbing of content.
>>179867>Unfortunately, vibes don't beat facts. The evidence is all archived.The e-mails are as well. He already lied about the fact that he only met him once, so he could be lying about this as well. And about the dates not matching: it doesn't need to be Epstein himself influencing him to create /pol/. It was Boris who said "the potential for manipulation is huge" after all. He had already with him before Epstein.
No.179870
>>179869https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01992938.pdf>Last night and this morning in SF.>Fun. Also met some interesting people. Boris Nikolic said he met him in October 20th that very morning he sent the email, in San Fran. moot had been a panelist at the O'Reilly Summit that started October 18. They met there.
The DeGrippo exchange happened in ROFLCON II, August 2011.
Even if I assume you are right, Boris had literally 4 days to convince moot to bring an irrelevant board he wouldn't have known about, as the 4chan stud and reason anyone in 2011 cared about 4chan was /b/.
I somehow doubt Bill Gates' little Igor could convince the stubborn mule knows as Christopher Poole to reopen a board over a casual chat and maybe 4 days of emails. I think he met moot and immediately suggested he arrange for him to meet Epstein while he moved back to NYC, where he actually met Epstein iirc.
No.179871
>>179870>n ROFLCON II, August 2011. *ROFLcon II.5, ROFLcon II was 2010.
No.179878
So moot didn't really want to be famous yet 4chan forced him into fame.
Kind of a shame really, but he held up pretty well throughout it, talented and stubborn little autist.
No.179879
/v/ is just hard to look at nowadays
No.179880
>>179879It's been generally awful for over a decade now, I presume you're just getting old and nostalgic.
No.179881
>>179880That's true, but it's like comparing a burning hot log coming out of your ass to explosive diarrhea on a public bus
No.179883
>>179870>Boris had literally 4 days to convince moot to bring an irrelevant board he wouldn't have known about/pol/ is not /new/. /new/ was just supposed to be about news, /pol/ is something else entirely. It's neither about politics nor news, just "Politically Incorrect". And even the mods themselves still have no idea what to allow and what to delete from that board, hence why it became the new /b/ (even taking its job of being the gateway to 4chan for newer users). And the way moot handled it seems like someone who had no real say in the matter in my opinion. I mean, he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later. I'd just delete the board before it came to that.
No.179911
>>179883>he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later.that probably has more to do with him running out of legal funds after The Fappening and having people like Epstein take interest in him.
No.179914
>>179883>I mean, he literally had a mental breakdown over it and had to resign a few months later.technically /v/'s doing, not /pol/. gamergate blows up, and immediately after that someone leaks moots private socials with mallory blair. Then the harassment campaign on moots irl friends begins, and that's when moot really loses it.
swaglord is also partly to blame, because he was a friend of both blair and moot, and thought it was a good idea to take a pic with blair to troll 4chan, feeding the "feminist takeover" schizophrenia
actually, swaglord could have been a big factor in convincing moot to get a statu up going and hang out with nyc journo people. irwin becomes a mod out of nowhere in early 2010 despite having no history with 4chan, then moot starts networking with lerer ventures. I wonder if he attended Columbia with moot.
No.179932
>>179930post tldr, not opening /jp/
No.179939
>>179932Hi all! For many years I've mostly been hosting the /jp/ GTA server only on significant events, so I'm doing something unusual. I plan to host sometime this weekend (probably around 7-9 PM EST) and maybe even randomly intermittently while this thread is still up to check some new things I've been working on. Please look forward to it!
I mentioned on the 7th anniversary there was a possible chance that I would be moving to another country. This has indeed come to pass - I'm moving to East Asia in a few weeks where I'll very likely be living permanently, or for at least the last few years I'll be hosting this little event. So if you live in the US these next few sessions will very likely be the last before I enact the ultimate /jp/ filter of actually needing to live in asia or suffering 300 ping.
No.179953
>>179950No idea, but people from here have joined before and there was no issue whatsoever. It's probably fine as long as you're not out there advertising Kissu or something.
No.179971
>>179946>"Project Chanology" likely had investors backing it up, as it's extremely rare for these kind of protests to arise spontaneously.not investors, just media who propping it up because it aligned with their "grassroots progressivism" ideal.
Chanology started as /i/nsurgency trolls deciding to become activists. If you check the old raid wikis the "bernie liberal" mentality was pretty clear. The very first chanology thread is archived.
https://old.sage.moe/b/thread/51051816/#51051816It had some traction but not much, then became more popular outside 4chan, which retarded outsiders, in their retarded and outsider ways, just stated "4chan did this" which is how you ended up with a bunch urbanites posting longcat is long memes.
Basically a bunch of IRC hacker circlejerks peripheral to 4chan gamed 4chan to go viral.
/pol/ was grassroots too, in the sense that reps started moving there because they were getting deplatformed everywhere else. it's only later that media started saying, AGAIN, "4chan did this". This is our burden basically, to be blamed for the gayops of every little group out there.
Truth be told, boris was just wrong with the "potential for manipulation" line. 4chan never started a political movement. They has people from elsewhere (troll IRCs or rejects from social media) dress up in their colors and force politics on 4chan.
No.179986
>>179946>take EFG for exampleEFG predates Chanology.
No.180018
Seeing all of the kohai buzzwords on /a/ really is something. Everything is Peak this, Mid that, never expected that kuso to take off on there. Nobody says anything about it either. I guess it's a new era.
No.180019
>>180018They're all xitter /pol/ tourists that ended branching out.
The site really needs new word filters.
No.180030
>>180018Let them cook fr bro
No.180058
>>179867>tinybbsIs that the AnonTalk clone? I actually sorta like the UI for that even if it was designed by an actual schizophrenic.
No.180085
>>180018I hate it too but honestly you see them so much that they get stuck in your head and you end up repeating them subconsciously. I've seen millennials use them too. I guess it's just how internet lingo evolves.
No.180225
/v/ mods are still on a personal vendetta against Delrarune threads. My thread reached bump limit, no porn, no schizos, funny OP pic I made myself on RPG Maker. Still got a 3 days ban on all boards.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/743609441/This has been happening for at least a week. A new chapter released a month ago and people want to discuss the game, which at this point along with Undertale should be considered a cultural phenomenon. This is specially annoying because other recurring threads like GTA VI threads on /v/ or The Odyssey on /tv/ don't get the same treatment.
No.180226
>>180225It's well known video game discussion is forbidden in /v/. Only console war and xitter threads are allowed.
No.180227
>>180226I wish there were vidya focused imageboards like there are /jp/ spin-offs. I have nowhere to discuss videogames anonymously. We got a thread here on Kissu at least.
No.180229
>>180228Well, there's no guarantee the average game is going to get more than one or two replies as a thread, if any at all.
No.180240
>>180232It's not a lie if anon is his own uncle!
No.180242
>>180227i swear any site that has a /v/ gets cursed. i love video games but the people that want to post about them on imageboards are troglodytes.
No.180243
>>180229The souls thread has done well, it's just a matter of trying.
No.180259
>>180258In a game of chicken, everyone else lost and I won
No.180260
>>180259>game of chicken I think those are called basic self-preservation skills.
No.180263
The age of Imageboard... is over!
No.180267
>>180262let me guess, that's a deltarune thread?
No.180272
>>180267yes, sucks because I kinda wanted to see what /v/ actually discussed about zero ranger but was insanely disappointed
No.180273
>>180272i don't really feel bad for deltarune posters, to be fair.
No.180289
>>180278it's the honey girl
No.180307
>>180227Same. /amv/ exists but it's a bit slow.
No.180308
fuck I forgot to sage the thread
No.180311
I hate /dbs/ shitters. you can't have a normal conversation about dragonball on 4ch any more. Don't they get tired of that kuso?
No.180312
>>180228I don't have the motivation to carry a thread with qualityposting.
The last games I was REALLY excited for were Elin(Kissu doesn't like generals right?) and Dragons Dogma 2. New Xenoblade looks cool too but I don't own the console so that puts a damper on my excitement. Maybe I'll make a dogma thread when the DLC drops even if it wasn't everything I wanted
Speaking of Deltarune, I've been waiting for the full release. I will be cringe with the rest of the deltarooners when that is done.
Random screenshot. Does sage work with images attached? I'll find out
No.180313
MTA is getting hosted again in a few hours.
No.180314
(around 8 PM EST)
No.180315
>>180313Hope I can make it there’s a big storm outside and it might cut the power…
No.180321
>>180318iirc nonny/nona is from /lgbt/.
No.180328
>>180318I've never been called nonny on the hacker known as 4chan, are you browsing homosex threads or something?
No.180335
>>180328I mostly browse /g/ nowadays which is where I keep seeing it, first time I recall seeing it was here:
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108865844Definitely started noticing it more and more on /g/
>are you browsing homosex threads or something?maybe you could say that about /g/ sometimes...
No.180418
>>180335Since always. It's just very easy wordplay to coin. But its interesting in a way: Almost all people who've come up with it are from ERP circles. Search it in the archives, most posts are roleplay related.
No.180419
>>180335>I mostly browse /g/ nowadays/g/ is one of the boards that's up there in terms of how many of its users are schizos.
No.180421
/maho/ could be half as active as /g/ if everyone here posted there instead of /g/. Nearly everyone here is a codegarch of some type so we have the numbers. I hate it but I keep going back there to refresh /g/ since you guys won't post here.
No.180430
>>180422Inactive mostly-idle board + Idol fanatics who believe that more images of their idol in their threads = their idol is the best
I think most boards have something similar to this, for example with /vm/ having the Uma fanatics with their constant 3~6 threads up at all times (despite being a lot more conservative and thoughtful about not spamming the board with new threads)
No.180469
>>1804221: They spam images in their generals which causes them to quickly reach the image limit before the actual bump limit.
2: They try to bump the thread off by posting filler ghost replies in other threads, but are unable to do so because people from other generals are doing the same exact thing and bumping their image-limited general. That's plan A.
3: So instead they try to spam as much filler garbage in their own thread instead in order to make it reach the bump limit. Once it has, they resume trying to spam other threads, but that also fails because of the 2 week autosage. That's plan B.
4: The next logical step would be to instead just try flooding the catalog with a bunch of filler ghost threads, but the issue with that is that there's a very long cooldown between thread creation by the same IP, so if you don't have a VPN or anything like that you're going to risk being unable to create a new general just as your old one is about to be bumped off, and having their 3DPD of choice be in the new general's OP is of the utmost importance to these degenerates so that's a risk they're just unwilling to take. That's plan C.
5: At this point, there are two possible outcomes:
5.1: Plan C is unsuccessful, and the descent into insanity from not being able to post a PNG of their favorite 3DPD begins to take a heavy toll on what little is left of these anons brains. They ditch all morality, and just start a new general despite their current one being on Page 6. Other anons who were waiting to feature their 3DPD will feel cheated and remember that this was done by the way, so the next general will be created by someone else when this brand-new one hits Page 5 intead.
5.2: Plan C is successful (usually because of a vpn spammer from either the same or another general creating a bunch of threads) and it now becomes a race to see who can create the new general first without doing it too soon, Wild West showdown style. What ends up happening is that several people pull the trigger at the same time and you end up with 3-4 brand new generals being made, and janny doesn't delete them for some reason so now you go back to step 1 but with several generals at the same time.
No.180474
>>180469What the actual fuck?
No.180477
>>180474I'm just answering the question...
No.180479
>>180469we have begged repeatedly for the mods to add some kind of idol board for these fucks for years, and you know what they do? they let the vtubers just stay and kuso up the board just as much as the 3dpd. fuck, 4/jp/ was so deliberately mishandled, I don't even want to open it to see the mess it is now.
No.180480
>>180479It makes me sad enough to cry when I think about all the trouble /jp/ got for just wanting to have fun. Moot hated us, the mods hated us, saegrimr hated us, the new management was more than willing to let vtubers and generals snuff out the culture that was barely hanging on.
...Not that I didn't kuso up the boards from time to time... I funposted and loved irony just like the rest. I just lament what is gone...
No.180483
>>180474>>180479And it has definitely gotten worse as of recently. I stopped using 4/jp/ very much back in 2024 but at least back then the board was more balanced with 2hu threads on the first page. Now, the first page is the gay ass idol, vtuber, etc. threads and 2hu threads are way more dead now. I do believe this is also in part due to the hack that happened. On a longer timeline its also due to the retarded changes to the site that made making threads and posts more annoying.
I do like that Kissu and other imageboards are picking up the slack.
No.180496
>>180318>>180321I'm pretty sure nonny was from /co/ MLP stuff back in the day… Nona I have only ever seen on crystal.cafe
No.180499
>>180469This could go for almost all generals, even the ultra rare "good" ones.
>>180479Mishandling of hobby boards is one of the few things jannies actually do on that site.
No.180520
>>180477No I'm not blaming you, I'm just baffled.
No.180536
>>180499I know at least one, maybe 3 /jp/ generals that aren't like that but I think naming them would just come off as advertising.
No.180540
>>180530they couldn't stand "/jp/" botspamming and report spamming the queue 24/7, then playing victim when they got hit for not playing fair.
No.180542
>>180530>the reason the mods killed off /qa/ and turned it into the you-know-what boardthey killed qa because every group in it including and especially the 2D/Random) people were in a retarded arms race to see how much they could get away with botspamming the entire board and doing retarded bot bumping subterfuge. At that point anyone would get tired and tell all involved parties to fuck off.
One could argue why they then let the cancerman teens stay but they also kicked them out, that igniting the pseudo feud that imageboard subgroup now has with the entirety of 4chan
>>180480>Moot hated usThis is based on what specifically? (genuine question). Also usually when someone says "
Everyone hated us when we did no harm" I have to take their assertions with a grain of salt.
No.180546
>>180011Damn, right side is basically a proto soyboy
No.180547
>>180469This is just the old 4/qa/ thread system reached from first principles.
No.180618
>>180612Dunno if there's enough people but I like posting in these
No.180621
>>180612I haven't posted on /g/ in forever, I only went there recently to grab the windows 10 iot hardware licence script thing off of /fwt/ for a couple of computers I had a crusty windows 7 install on. Anytime I read anything on that board, its kuso AI image dumps, mindless consumerism, the usual /v/ template threads, and other nonsense. Its definitely gone to kuso since 2017, but it is a reflection of the current tech landscape anyways.
No.180631
>>180612Yeah, I'd be open to a general questions/help thread. Seems like every /tech/ and /g/ board I've ever used has had them.
>>180588AoC?
No.180646
What the hell is it with this blacked spam? Every 3rd reply on /fa/ is some interracial tiktok. Is it another schizo
No.180647
>>180631Anonymous of Colombia aka THE /jp/ meido. And basically the guy whose neuroticism singlehandedly created the spinoff scene.
No.180648
>>180646>/fa/>another schizonot "another" schizo, its THE schizo. Ruggarell aka the guy who spent almost 15 years make blacked threads on /v/, /b/, and who knows where else.
He's obsessed with the denim thread for some reason, and has his name in autoban and the denim thread has custom post limitations hardcoded in 4chan's source code because of him.
No.180667
Someone is currently posting a new thread every couple of minutes on 4/jp/. The front page is just a bunch of 0 reply threads.
No.180668
>>180646/fa/ has little to no moderation. I've seen nudity stay up until the thread 404s, and that's not mentioning worksafe spam being allowed to mess up the board.
No.180669
>>180647Meido was great, what are you talking aboot
No.180672
>>180612>/dpt/Legitimately a sad reminder, what used to be a great little place to squibble and talk about programming has been transformed into a playground for a malicious sperg who doesn't even program and just blogposts about his GPT fueled hallucination babble, proud proclamations of being ADHD followed up by calling everyone he doesn't like "autists" and how they should be turned to fodder or feed for multiple years straight.
Although that seems to be a modern day 4chan staple, one singular person ruining it for everyone else.
No.180676
>>180672/dpt/ was just living in the shadow of /prog/, it was inevitable some schizo would take it over due to bad moderation
No.180678
They haven't been made in a very long time, but the /chad/ threads on /g/ were great and what /dpt/ wished it could be.
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/subject/chad%20help/type/op/ No.180679
>>180677I wonder what moot would think of 2020's /jp/.
No.180680
Kuso that's not worth the headache like the rest of the site
No.180683
>>180672>that seems to be a modern day 4chan staple, one singular person ruining it for everyone else.yeah it's happened to /bleep/ and /classical/ on /mu/. I think the music production general on /g/ has its own resident spammer too.
No.180684
my favorite /trash/ thread has a schizo that's been making it unusable for weeks, the mods even know this and only occasionally IP wipe him
No.180690
>>180679I keep thinking of moot's graduation lamentation: "I grew up, but 4chan didn't grow up with me".
No.180691
>>180686same, had a reply I wanted to make on /v/ but gave up when I saw that
No.180695
>>180686>>180691This has cut down on posting so much. Really one of the worst things I think has happened to 4 is the cutdown on posting through absurd captchas and precautions in an attempt to eliminate spam, mostly CSAM. If there's cp, just delete it, I would agree with it more if it actually worked but I still see plenty of bot spam and cp. You might argue that 4 has enough commercial appearance that it would draw attention but I really doubt it. Really wish it'd just go back to the really simple captcha or none at all and do whatever kissu does.
No.180703
>>180686I just got that too, but mine was permanent. They must have rolled out a new ban wave.
No.180712
>>180670AoC. He has not a bad dude but he was unstable and extremely anal retentive. Which made him lowkey extremely influential as his anal retentiveness caused ghostposting to become /jp/ culture and /ota/ (therefore hima and gnfos and our entire family tree except for bun) got started by people who spent an entire year trolling the fuck out of him. Basically funposting exists because tokiko and otamin fucking hated AoC.
kuso, he was fired twice. moot apparently found him funny so he kept giving /jp/ to him and he was the only guy who was allowed to run a script to autodelete posts.
>>180670Of Colombia. He actually started the "Anonymous of [place]" trend.
No.180713
>>180672Honestly I haven't been to /dpt/ ever since
the dra/g/on maid poster AKA Eli Selig stopped posting there, did another schizo appear or are you talking about that one?
No.180714
This is why generals are bad. They're inherently fragile. You should post your programming thoughts to /maho/. We could make a programming blog if it helps.
No.180715
>>180714>You should post your programming thoughts to /maho/Are you suggesting we should make a programming thoughts general - /pgt/?
No.180718
>>180714I agree
Generals were the worst thing to happen to anonymous bulletin boards, they inherently go against the spirit of anonymous with users interacting with the same people everyday to the point that cliques are made, and if certain people stop liking each other they vent their frustrations with passive-agressive remarks, which makes shitposters get ahold of this and put fuel to the flames, and at the end you have an unsuable thread that is only visited by the same butthurt people or the trolls looking for a dramafest.
No.180720
>>180715nah, just make /prog/, I was tempted to make a catch all kind of general for consumer tech, thinkpads, and OS nonsense, but I felt the topic was too broad so I relented.
No.180722
Generals are a symptom of a board filled with low quality content/engagement and mods not doing their job.
>>180715>>180720Make a thread about your tech thoughts/findings/ideas.
No.180730
>>180722Isn't this thread technically in itself a general?
No.180731
>>180730It's a cyclical thread
No.180733
This site has been half generals ever since /amv/ was made.
No.180734
>>180733Is it? Feels more like all the seasonal anime threads on /jp/ and game threads on /qa/ just got moved to /amv/.
No.180740
>>180689It's
/hmofa/. I thought it was worth mentioning here since it's one of the only times I saw a mod intervene on /trash/ that wasn't just banning a general.
No.180758
Is it even possible to post on 4chan without a Pass™ anymore?
No.180760
>>180758with a good cookie it's been a decade since it was so easy
No.180763
I was thinking about the idea of a 4chan clone without cloudflare, a lot fewer boards, and "anime website" in the rules.
No.180766
>>180730It's a containment thread, generals have a "community" around them.
No.180769
>>180421Sorry, I'm just too used to it especially after so long but I'm really only there to follow on AI developments which is partially my job with /lmg/ and some /dpt/ and /vcg/ and on occasion, /ldg/ which is a hellhole. For the engagement I put in, it's still been really good but the quality is starting to backslide with the amount of new people who don't give a crap and found a place to kuso up. It's not the only place I get AI news and follow on things but I consider myself pretty well read and up to date on the subject. I dunno if it would make sense for me to do a sort of curated AI thread from the most interesting things I found and etc. but we already have a few AI threads and I dunno if it makes sense for me to be singularly posting all that in mind.
No.180770
>>180769Post about it, doesn't matter if it's in an existing thread or a new one.
No.180861
Am I going crazy or has /vr/ lost so much traffic recently? I've been seeing the exact same threads that were made weeks ago.
No.180863
>>180861Pretty sure most of the site did
No.180879
>>180861/vr/ feels more inorganic to me these days. Like those threads asking what something was like back in the day or how was some game received at release. They don't feel like a real person that's actually curious because by the time one thread is done, another is put right up.
>>180867This prompted me to look through the charts. I don't think any board has had such a pronounced decline in activity as /jp/. Not that a chart is needed to tell when you can just look at the board.
To think the actual numbers should be even lower if you were to remove the vtuber and idol threads...
No.180881
Can someone explain me what's happening to /v/ touhou threads? there's this anon spamming the same words and getting deleted over and over again, fighting some kind of script.
No.180885
>>180883So what your saying is the numbers from the pandemic inflated everyone's idea on what a fast board should be?
Because that's what the chart is saying, like if anything this is just going back to pre-pandemic numbers.
No.180890
>>180881iirc some schizo who hates touhou and tries to flood the thread with illegal garbage.
>>180879Did the napkin math a while back and over of the board's activity is the 3d generals and hololive.
>>180882One one hand generals are always doomed to becoming hollow circlejerks but at the same time sharty vermin kill everything they touch. So I dunno what to think here tbqh.
No.180891
>>180885According to my predictions the number of posts between 2026 and 2027 will be half as much as last year (assuming activity will stay constant), so this is a downward trend, it's not going to stay at pre-pandemic levels, it's going even lower, I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029.
No.180892
>>180891> I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029Kind of late but good riddance. 4/jp/ really needs to be put down.
No.180897
>>180861>Am I going crazyYes
>or has /vr/ lost so much traffic recentlyAlso yes.
No.180899
>>180881story goes one of the main 2hu guys tried to mingle with the pedoproxy people and it blew up badly, and since november last year the pedoproxy has been trying to kill every thread that has reimu in the OP. They mellowed out, it used to be csam.
>>180885its saying vtumors outnumber every other jp topic of interest by a 5:1 ratio, and now that they left and vtubing is deatj, jp returned to the mean.
No.180911
>>180899i really did wonder what the history behind that was. it was obvious that he was using that tool because of the randomized resolutions.
No.180916
>>180891>I predict /jp/ will be completely dead by 2029There are those who feel they have some sort of loyalty to the board, so I suspect there will always be a dozen or two who will keep posting Touhou on /jp/ no matter how clogged up in generals the board gets. If Touhou on /jp/ can survive a vtumour apocalypse it can survive anything. Not necessarily "be alive", but "survive".
Feels a little weird to use Touhou as a measure of aliveness, but that's really the only topic on the board that isn't self-quarantined to generals.
No.180959
>>180885Imo all boards feel different pre pandemic and post pandemic, the site bleed users like crazy
Even on slow boards I could have discussions that lasted the same day back in 2018
No.180960
>>180885>>180959It's a difference in quality, not quantity.
Pre-pandemic, many of the nerdy hobby boards still had long-lasting threads with sincere, in-depth conversation and/or witty funposting.
The pandemic boost flooded many slower threads off the board, but when the tide receded, many effortposters didn't return. Even threads that managed to last never had the same sincerity, depth or wit.
Then the hack happened, and most of the remaining effortposters left. So did half the mods. The mods who cling to the sinking ship are the ones who weren't in touch enough with the community to leave when the community did.
No.180961
>>180960>It's a difference in quality, not quantity.can't say I notice a thing. The kids are still kids, the autists are still autists, the bandwagon retards are still the same.
The only meaningful qualitative change I've noticed in over 15 years in imageboards was the culture war, and that was a slippery slope of off-topic take overs of threads that hit bottom in 2016-2018.
The pandemic changed nothing besides shifting where the kids resided and what manner of vernacular the flourished their particular brand of dumb kuso with.
>Then the hack happened, and most of the remaining effortposters left. So did half the mods. I had you till there. both statements are factually wrong. The hack changed even less than the pandemic, it was a nothingburger.
>The mods who cling to the sinking ship are the ones who weren't in touch enough with the community to leave when the community did.Which community?
There's around 200 separate communities that compose 4chan and i'm likely lowballing it.
No.181029
I decided to check out /jp/ after leaving for a bit, and holy kuso.
I leave for couple of weeks and the board is completely unusable.
Seriously, I counted four threads that weren't complete kuso shows.
I remember it being bad, but not this bad.
My guess would be that the people who didn't migrate slowly left as the board became more and more unusable.
It's not that surprising, both during the hack and after the autosage, there were people who said that they wouldn't migrate and that if it got too bad they would just stop using imageboards entirely.
No.181033
I have visited 4chan perhaps 5 times in the last few months.
Never posting.
About a month ago I shuffled through my reaction image, general 2DR folder. It's been a perpetual stew of images running since circa 2008.
To be frank, alot of it aged very poorly to me. I had to take stock that not only could I never find most of these images when I would want them, but that I almost never posted any of them.
So I deleted many stupid ones, and sealed off the rest never to be used again.
I am not an archivist and it's time I accept that.
I don't care about chan culture; I haven't felt close to it since old /qa/ revived the fainted spark in my heart of those days. I'm ready to let go.
No.181035
>>181029> I counted four threads that weren't complete kuso shows.Which?
No.181037
>>179867>was literally reinventing Internet culture, and at the time people were convinced "internet culture" meant something.You know how out of touch this sounds? The Internet back then was in the process of getting cordoned off but it was still gigantic. The only time I ever heard about 4chan was because of some offhand Youtube comment that mentioned boxxy, who mentioned 4chan in her video.
It wasn't until 2013 that it really started making waves by which point everything was highly centralized.
It's only when 90% of the internet was gone 4chan became a "prime mover" of internet culture.
Y'know I think this is why I was never able to fully integrate with 4chan because their culture is totalizing. Like the whole "final boss of the internet" spiel, when the internet back then was an ocean.
No.181047
>>181037You lads are starting to mix the 2000s and 2010s together.
>It's only when 90% of the internet was gone 4chan became a "prime mover" of internet culture.4chan became a primer mover of internet culture in late 2005. In the late 00s you literally could not find a single joke on the Internet that wasn't made as a template or rage comic or shoop or copypasta on 4chan or Krautchan or Dvach, and the latter two came RUNNING to export their kuso to 4chan as soon as they could because it was the imageboard "homeland".
ROFLCON I, the "internet for internet's sake" convention, was in 2008 and moot was the special *star* guest at the time.
By 2010 we had already peaked and were running on fumes with /b/ basically dying, you had smaller boards sequestering and going the "high quality autheur" route by breaking away from 4chan and starting closed-gate community projects like Katawa Shojo or The SCP Foundation.
>It wasn't until 2013 that it really started making waves by which point everything was highly centralized.>2013Hell no. Years late. You can check it on 4stats and see 4chan was already slowing down in 2012. The only reason we weren't a dying old fart site by the mid 2010s was the culture war deplatforming half the GOP on social media and Reddit's volunteer mod system imploding and normalizing permabans on first offence, creating the a massive fucking hatefandom that went to 4chan specifically to scream bloody murder about reddit.
And even then having more posters than our format was designed for didn't make us more relevant. By the mid 2010s we were solidly a Twitter+Tumblr repost central, where the real Culture creators resided. We were reaching the point of self-parody were we kept remixing our old classics (wojak and pepe). I guess you can argue we served as a popularilty filter for other community's content and if you kuso was truly good 4chan would act as word of mouth. But it wasn' a "4chan thing".
For the record: We should have been an old fart's site a decade ago. We were denied our laurels.
No.181049
>>181047>ROFLCON I, the "internet for internet's sake" convention, was in 2008 and moot was the special *star* guest at the time.And if you pay attention to this you'll notice the closest thing even resembling competition at the time was Youtube content creators, who were arguably the only group with more cultural relevance than 4chan but lowkey it was because they had discovered how to assembly manufacture viral content and thus MAKE MONEY.
That's why half the panels in that convention were from venture businessmen trying to monetize the thing. The lads who made cheezburger and know your meme among others started there. 4chan existed in contrast as the place "pure grassroots internet" happened
No.181053
>>181033NOOOOOO!!! DUMB deletard. Could have zipped them up and let someone else archive them. Siiiiiigh.
No.181054
This is like hearing about someone else's hard drive crash but you did it on purpose
No.181055
You reminded me I need to sort my maymays
No.181056
>>181055Same I need to set up a local booru. Don't know what's the best soft for manually building a tag system.
No.181061
>>181056shimmie2 is what paheal uses and it works just fine for me as a local installation. although it kinda sucks for posting images on imageboards because you can't drag and drop onto the reply box and it won't fetch from 127.0.0.1/localhost.
No.181084
>>181033>Never posting.No kuso, nobody can post.
No.181086
>>181033Can you zip it and put upload it to desu.si or something?
No.181098
>>181061isnt paheal fucking archaic, specially for its search system?
No.181105
>Posting from your IP range has been temporarily blocked due to abuse [More Info].
Musical fucking chairs of a site
No.181116
>>180686>>180695They have to be using this to kill 4chan?
These range bans make little sense otherwise.
Obviously they can't just kill it outright or there would be too much backlash, but by making it literally unusable unless you pay up or give an email.
I mostly just posted on /a/ because it's where there is still long running and active participation in a few niche series I enjoy. But i literally can't participate in the threads without jumping through these id hoops which I decline.
Kissu's /amv/ has one of them and I've crossposted for a while despite how slow it's been but I just want my 4koma threads...
No.181126
How the fuck do you get so many range bans I literally only ever got one in my phone.
Are you resetting your cookies every day?
No.181127
This is the schiz indulgence thread
No.181129
>>181126I get them and I don't even post much, sometimes I see a thread and try to make a post, wait the 2 minutes, do the faggot captcha, then still get the range ban notice
No.181130
>>181126cookies go back to minimal trust status if you dont post in a week iirc.
No.181131
>>180891what a safe, non-committal prediction.
No.181142
>>181126No, I keep Firefox open for weeks until the updates start crashing tabs (made the mistake of installing Firefox Beta).
No.181143
>>181130I use librewolf and haven't posted from this PC for 2 weeks and only the captcha got reset, no range ban.
No.181151
Why does "Who are you quoting?" make serial shitposters so mad?
No.181152
>>181151Who are you quoting?
No.181154
>>181126You post wrongthink enough times that you get targeted by the mods.
>>181151'Who quote' is a simple reliable method for revealing outsiders so it makes shitposters mad. Same with 'on what'. It's like fnord it throws a fnord into their machinery.
No.181160
>>181154ermmm reddit spacing much???? ://///
No.181161
>>181143trust system is dynamic and weighted a lot of stuff. your ISP is likely trusted, and cookie is still old even if you are an inactive poster, I believe it still takes a full month to expire (haven't checked).
No.181162
>>181161>I believe it still takes a full month to expire That does seem about right, at least that's how long it took me.
No.181168
I don't buy it.
I've had a tab open for two months and posted safe stuff regularly, I still got range banned. I almost gave up using the site but un/luckily I had a powercut and that reset the ip to something permitted but only a week or two later that one was banned too.
I did access 4chan from a couple of devices but still had one live browser session maintaining the connection, but I was posting from it one minute then the next I couldn't and still cannot post.
It seems malicious or incompetent.
No.181179
>>180867>>180879It just struck to me that most boards' pph peak of the last 6 years is either 2022 or 2023, after a correction in 2021 of the anomaly of 2020.
I believe that, without COVID, most boards would have the same slow death as we see it occurring since 2022.
No.181184
>>181168real rangebans are exceedingly rare. You get fake rangebans and those ask you to verify an email.
The trust system is dynamic, if its automatic i don't know, but dsw does tighten it when proxysite people start sperming.
No.181224
>>181098Paheal is still a thing??
No.181257
>>181184Then I don't get what's going on.
Have I offended faggot mod?
It's a uk domestic IP so who knows whether there are botfarms running off compromised networks but it's still a pain in the arse. Maybe they don't like the script blockers?
No.181260
It's quite funny how twitter has an idealised image of 4chan through /lgbt/, lately
No.181261
>>181260it does??? how????
No.181262
>>181260twitter as a whole has just become 4chan 2 in my opinion. i cam't stand being on that site for more then a second unless i want to be assulted by some 14 year old's opinion on my feed. bluesky is too porn happy for me to use that app either. hard to find anything to make work go by quick these days.
No.181272
/a/ back to 2008 levels
>>181262> 4chan 2more like /pol/+/r9k/+/int/+/v/ 2
No.181275
>>181262Funny, I just use it for looking at Japanese porn artists
No.181280
>>181261Matomete xitter accounts of 4chan boards has become a lot popular since 2023. (Do you remember that one (underage) anon that wanted to create one about /jp/ around 2020/2021?) The ones about /tttt/ general from /lgbt/ especially are very popular the past couple of months.
No.181297
Why does 4/jp/ get those "duplicate" threads? Who is making them? Why are they doing that?
No.181301
>>181297Could you post a screenshot?
No.181303
>>181301NTA but.
Though this has been happening for a while now, even before the autosage and maybe even before the recent hack.
Apparently someone spams them to push some threads down?
No.181308
>>181260Its rather annoying when people treat any site as a monolith. I can verify what you're talking about, but this is obviously a minority set of twitter peddling that rhetoric, not "twitter" the whole.
Generally any discourse about 4chan from sites like these is useless because its always from a person who only really frequented one board who has an axe to grind and a narrative to sell you. Depending on who you ask it was a queer bastion or a refuge from the censorious internet or the puppet of a global elite oligarch operation or whatever. All of these people will make these claims authoritatively as well.
>>181262Its a weird situation, feels like a chicken egg thing where I can't tell you who poisoned who first, but the certain thing is that the board coalition described in
>>181272 has fed into and taken out a substaintial portion of sects of twitter to the extreme detriment of both. Its just a homogenous pot of soup now, but the soup is actually just liquefied kuso.
I can at least mildly respect (some) 4chan boards for still telling OPs who just post twitter screencaps to fuck off, but the inverse is laughably not the case. Twitter users will just pull up kuso greentexts of posts that never got more than 10 replies maximum and trade them around to the tune of thousands of likes. Its like the specific culture there is just coalescing into what people think in their heads and not reality, and those thoughts are manifesting in tweets that actually affect reality.
No.181309
>>181308/lgbt/ was a trojan horse infiltration of the site
No.181315
>>181297They are spammed by one of the hololive anons to push their generals down. Please refer to
>>180469, it's not the same word-for-word but it's very similar.
No.181317
>>181308>feels like a chicken egg thingreally?
i feel like twitters culture is simply a consequence of its design.
No.181324
>>181317I agree, but I refer less to the natural aggravation of twitter due to QRTs and its prior (also aggressive and argumentative) culture and more to its incestuous relationship with "4chan culture", where 4chan culture refers to the sphere greentext and /pol/tard or /v/tard rhetoric 24/7 that has become the identity of many a board, with the same talking points passed around both sites.
No.181344
>>181126I used to post at work in incognito mode and now it doesn't work anymore because of a rangeban (but my phone has old cookies so it is still able to post even thought it's connected to the same network)
I don't know what it's triggering it really, I changed the browser, language, etc.
No.181345
>>181262I wonder why nobody hasn't made a clone of twitter but with anonymous names, seems like a golden opportunity.
No.181346
>>181345You could probably tweak Pleroma into doing that if it still exists idk. Sounds like a fun unhinged site idea though
No.181347
>>181346Still I'm not sure if it would catch on, the thing about twitter replacing anonymous culture on the internet is the increase of virtual egos, everyone wants something under a name.
Kinda like how namefagging or avatarfagging have gotten stronger lately in any board/general.
No.181348
>>181345On a practical level without names attached it would be more difficult to find "tweet" threads you want, and with additional changes to accommodate that it might be unrecognizable as a Twitter alternative. I don't even know how it would work without turning into another imageboard.
No.181349
>>181348Kinda like a imageboard without a catalog, just an endless feed of posts
No.181350
>>181349Holy kuso that's disgusting.
No.181351
>>181297>Who is making them? People who think their OPs won't get any (you)s so they copy posts from an archive in the hopes it will start more conversation.
80% of conversation of 4chan is built of ritual posts and the kind of person who wants to write "I LOVE MY WAIFU" once a week does not care how he achieves that dopamine hit
No.181352
maybe ritual posts is not the right word, more like ritualized discussion
No.181353
>>181349That's literally just twitter
No.181354
>>181308>Generally any discourse about 4chan from sites like these is useless because its always from a person who only really frequented one board who has an axe to grind and a narrative to sell you.User facing anonymity does not exist to make this impossible, they exist to make it not hold up to scrutiny aka anyone who bothers to reply.
IBs cannot dissuade people from trying to sell narratives, the format just makes it very easy to shoot them down, and very easy for the shot-down user to back off and disengage once he realize he's being retarded.
No.181355
>>181354No past, no legacy, no shame, no inhibitions, no narratives, no reputation, Only what you feel is right, oh and no fucking internet points just satisfaction or amusement.
You can reply a hundred times to your own post with bait or effortpost a fucking thesis.
You can hammer out an idea and not be constrained by your cringe immaturity or pushing a certain concept.
everything and nothing. chaos but everything ultimately reduces to intrinsic truths after getting called faggots for everything else.
No.181358
>>180769It'd be nice for a papersanon revival.
No.181369
>>181347>namefagging or avatarfagging have gotten stronger lately in any board/generalIt was much worse in the 2010-2015 period, especially on /a/.
No.181375
>>180421Sorry, best I can do is to talk about how I hate the computers, internet, technology, electronics, logics, systems engineering, coding, ladder programming, manufacturing, et cetera.
No.181376
>>181369I think it's widely accepted now to the point that newfags consider it "normal" and would get upset if you don't acknowledge said namefags.
No.181380
>>180883The general posting speed seems kind of accurate but I feel like /jp/ is just generally filled with far less unique threads now after 2019. It's mostly just generals, and it's not like 2019 was amazing.
No.181384
File:a.mp4 (6.05 MB,480x360)
I found this video while I was combing through my old files
No.181388
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No.181389
>>181380There were definitely a lot more 3DPD generals cropping up after the vtumour shitshow happened a year later in 2020, or just more general threads in general really. It's been a while since I browsed 4jay regularly but it felt like the only topic you could make normal threads for was Touhou, because everything else was locked away in isolated generals. And if you wanted to discuss something new, you had to make a general for it.
>>181384Ooh, /a/ Draws Soramimi Cake. I drew a few frames for that one.
Are /a/ draws still a thing?
No.181411
>>181345Wouldn't make sense. Retweets QRTs and (to a much lesser extent these days) follows are more or less paramount to making twitter twitter. And all of these break under a full anon system. Especially when you consider since there's no traditional timeline you'd have to have a algorithmic one by default.
So you'd have an endless feed, where the next content you see is based on the previous content you retweeted and liked, from people you don't know and probably with posts that get pruned pretty fast...Honestly people would just immediately start same/namefagging and make the whole gimmick moot.
No.181448
I think 4chan is finding itself in the same situation that 2ch/5ch was in late-2000's and early-2010's. Most of text-base Japanese internet culture had migrated to Twitter, while 2ch fell into irrelevancy year after year.
No.181449
>>181448Japan's text-based culture has always been and remains a lot stronger, which allows 5ch and its splinters to have some resiliency. I'm probably less optimistic about 4chan when it looks like shortform video still isn't done eating everything and it's only getting harder to for people to read anything longer than a paragraph.
I also think it's hard to draw comparison to the past with the unique pressures of AI (post quality, collapse of advertising, or otherwise) and black swan events like Twitter changing overnight into X.
No.181463
Some guy on /a/ snapped a pic of some kid speed watching anime and the entire thread is now a pedo morality thread. Includes OC.
https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/290127793#p290128475I guess 4ch can still be fun once in a while
No.181464
>>181463High quality bread
Thank you for bringing this to my attention
No.181465
>>181464Yep. Some anons really know how to draw a cute girl
No.181498
>>181126>>181344>>181272>>181257>Have I offended faggot mod?Green reddit just made a big table of posting changes and linked them to proxysite activities.
There's a fuckload of systems and they are modified all the time. Its straight up schizo - it microrangebans you for hitting a bad fingerprint and if you hit too low trust on a single device while using wi fi IP it will make a temporary blacklist of every other device you use to connect to 4chan.
gomen for the link but its literally the only place that has talked about this
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/128989/post-25237396 No.181513
>>181498>gomen for the linkTbh I was actually thinking about this post/thread after having read it yesterday, but I figured it'd be persona non grata behaviour to link KF kuso here. That being said its pretty informative (in the positive sense, at least the parts relevant to 4chan development), you'd think the bibanon people would have covered something like this already, but I guess it's the topic of the thread that expedited that research.
That being said...it more just elaborates on issues people generally had a good idea of than anything. The notions of 4chans dwindling activity and increased user hostility has been more or less felt real time by everyone who's used the site between now and 2024, I suppose its nice to have it more formally documented somewhere though...
No.181527
>>181498>>181513Some observations I made before ended up in the OP, which is pretty funny. The moot/Kimmo Alm stuff is something I've been bringing up a lot.
No.181549
>>181548
I never understood why people complained about those. I'm glad they got filtered. What's actually annoying is their frequency on low trust IPs but if rapeape was a good admin he would actually communicate with the userbase and explain why it's happening
No.181552
>>181548
the challenges themselves aren't hard but you gotta compound this with:
>1 minute timer
>captcha not aborting if you failed one challenge
>useless slider
>50/50 fake captcha failure if you are too new
Kuso like this simply frustrates people out of posting, and the numbers don't lie. desuwa is lost in the sauce.
No.181553
like kuso people with actual sight impairment could NOT solve some of the old star captchas or the current square ones in time.
No.181554
>>181552>1 minute timernot a problem unless you're deleting your cookies every day
>captcha not aborting if you failed one challengeskill issue
>useless sliderskill issue
>50/50 fake captcha failure if you are too newgood, newfaggots that are too retarded shouldn't post
No.181555
>>181554>>181554>not a problem unless you're deleting your cookies every daywrong one minute timer, the timer to *solve* captcha.
As for the rest, you are mistaking the tedium of the activity with the difficulty of the activity. And trying to posture what a hardcore 4channer you are I guess, as if anyone cares.
No.181557
>>181555>wrong one minute timer, the timer to *solve* captcha.That's a 30s timer and isn't a problem even if you're posting on cooldown like a retard.
The new captcha just exposed how stupid the userbase is. The actual problem is the fake rangebans.
No.181559
Do people really give their email to 4chan?
No.181561
>>181559Just make a fake one?
No.181564
>>181463>>181464I feel a bit bad because my kuso scribbles got more replies than the objectively better art posted later in the thread.
No.181570
>>181564Just means you posted at the right time and they didn't.
No.181571
>>181464Why does he look so... American?
No.181574
>>181464Well, it's just MHA so why not speedwatch through it.
Not like anything precious or subtle will be lost.
No.181635
4chan will be down for scheduled maintenance starting at 12 p.m. Eastern Time.
No.181637
>>181635Someone posted ayy lmaos again and they must delete the evidence!
No.181638
>>181463Someone post the /v/ one it's on my hard drive but can't find it atm.
No.181641
>>181638it was already posted in that same thread
No.181644
>Performing maintenance. We'll be back soon.
So it happened again
No.181648
>>181646damn........
.....hot
No.181651
damn I didn't know there was a happening thread here what the hell
No.181653
>>181635hope it stays down
No.181658
It's back.
No.181659
So what changed? For me, captcha was a little slow to load but that's it.
No.181661
>>181658The site is back, but the subsystem is still borked on my end.
No.181662
>>181659For me, the captcha alternated between timing out, throwing a Cloudflare gateway error, and throwing a connection error when posting. Now it does this.
It's kind of impressive how they manage to make such a low-tech site break in such eldritch ways.
No.181664
The least they could do is add funny wait music.
No.181667
>>181666They couldn't pass the captcha...
No.181678
>>181677Because it's fake. Unless someone can prove it used to be there, it's not in
https://4chan.org/4channews?all#oldnews and that page has not been used other than for anniversary pictures. If they were going to announce such a thing, they would do it on the blog they resurrected for the hack to put out a statement.
No.181679
>>181678Maybe, this does seem like a perfect time to stir the jar for laughs.
However there used to be a lot of rule breaking /g/ threads not getting deleted for a while and now suddenly the place seems more sterile.
I find it plausible that 4chan announced this and deleted it after backlash or the anon in question was a rogue mod himself...
Hiro could clear things up but I doubt that he will.
No.181680
>>181677This has to be fake
No.181684
>>181683
The entirety of 4chan is excluded
No.181724
>>181685
2ch -> 40yo senpai and politicschizo central
Futaba -> 40yo senpai and hobbyschizo central
4chan -> 35yo senpai and politischizo+hobbyschizo central, but it occasisonally gets a lot of people to discuss hot button issues that could get them deplatformed, witchhunted or just simply kicked from the group chat in their usual hangouts because public forums on the internet are about to go extinct.
No.181735
>>181732
>there sure is a lot of oldfags then
This is 100% correct in 2ch's case, Japan has a high average age, and at one point it was literally bigger than all 00s japanese social media sites put together. Those people are just not gonna stop using it.
Otherwise the site is archaic kohai repellent, and it wont get any new user flow anytime soon, unless Hiroshimoot's political career actually takes off and stars drip feeding 2ch from sheer popularity.
As for Futaba, I honestly can't tell you what % of that 800k is spambots. The motherland is a ruin. It cannot handle csam spam in time and recently got removed from wayback machine over it.
Even though I'd agree in principle I'm casting doubt on those numbers, I'd expect half at least, and futaba being much, much smaller. Where you got the stats from?
No.181738
>>181736
>reports never go anywhere.
It's working exactly as intended.
No.181746
>>181739
CSAM laws aren't for protecting children they're for controlling the web.
No.181748
STOP doing that there's not even an archive yet
No.181749
i mean nothing bad happened but just because i wanted to
on a whim