No.168226
>>168215Well people besides myself are doing the good work
The PC-98 thread did a poll which spread around to some other threads and 21 respondents voted for Kissu as their preferred place to move if kuso gets too bad which was the vast majority
Personally I still think the thing to do is host more community events that can unite all the different /jp/ spinoff communities together to build a stronger community to make people feel less nervous about coming here
Probably the best idea in my head would be to use the Kissu Theatre to host some watch parties and then make cross threads on 4/jp/ to get some more people to come in and join
They have a very very strong chance of getting deleted like the L4D2 gamenight thread was but idk I see it as worth it, plus I just love watch parties
Hell I might drop the kissu Higurashi June watch parties in the 07th expansion thread irregardless* (strong asterisk because I'll have to gauge what the threads are like first to see if they don't got any schizo spammers we'd have to watch out for coming over here)
No.168227
>>168201No, the notice is clear, the dev stopped using 4chan and implores other to do the same so has no reason to update it any longer and presumably, I think the dev also runs his own Vtuber oriented imageboard with those features so makes sense. I mean, it will still work in the meantime but code does get outdated the longer it goes without changing. There was an issue opened up in 4chan X proper trying to get XT merged back into 4chan X proper.
>>168207It's not surprising that someone got around the captcha to do this already but I would've figured it would've taken longer because people don't want to spend money but there are more brainless people with time and money with the sole purpose to make others miserable. I've seen a script out there for solving using OCR proper so we're already heavily in machine learning needed to run in the browser. This captcha is closer to but still won't stop motivated botmakers that can make something that is scalable. I presume Cloudflare is providing the catpcha system so you would think there are more sophisticated attackers out there that would make this not effective not only just for 4chan.
No.168228
>>168226Some more events with wapchan would be a good idea as well, since they were the popular #2 choice and do get along very well with kissu.
Also the other kissu friends (hikari3, 39chan, sushichan)
No.168230
>>168229This seems like a joke ban
No.168231
>>168230Is it better now?
No.168232
>>168231Not sure what you mean, considering that was posted less than an hour ago. I have never had a problem with the sushis.
https://kissu.moe/friends.html No.168235
>>168233Not really sure why AI would need to move anywhere.
No.168236
Toohou generals, ai thread included, are usually fast enough to not be bothered by the autosage rule.
No.168237
>>168234For what it's worth they're chill and not jackasses like other AI fags
No.168238
>>168234>shitting the place upBy staying in their designated thread and keeping to themselves?
No.168239
>>168234I thought kissu was somewhat pro AI or at least you can do stuff related to AI on the sageru #chatgpt irc, also note to one of the mods (you know who you are): you need to put the koupen with the little bird on at the very bottom right corner so its looking up at my post it was very kakkoii
No.168240
>>168234I'm not sure what you're worried about since /2huAI/ stuff rarely if ever leaves the thread.
No.168241
>>168237That Rika guy seemed alright judging by the MTA thread but I don't know anything about the other posters, and at the end of the day they're still sloppers
No.168242
>>168241>>168234/jpAI/nons are really well behaved but I don't see why they would need to come here, their thread is fast enough to survive in the new environment. Same with the Era game and LW gacha threads.
No.168243
>>168233That was me. I don’t actually use AI myself. I hang around that thread mainly because of Rikanon. He makes really good gens, and Rika doesn’t get much fanart. I also like his top 9 favorite 2hus; it seems we have similar tastes.
For the record, I do have concerns about AI’s implementation and for the harm it’s capable of, but as far as generating images, though, I believe it’s just a tool. A tool can be used well or used poorly. Personally, I think image generation can be a boon to artists when used as a form of rapid prototyping. It allows artists to test and iterate on ideas without devoting time to sketching them out or just relying on the mind’s eye. Once they have something they like, they can use it as a reference for their final artwork. Yeah, people can just post the gen as the final product, but it all comes down to how you use the tool.
>>168212Were it the case that the mod just wanted to put Touhou on its own containment board and give VTubers their own place, I don’t understand why he’d go through all this trouble. You’d think he’d just fuck off to mod /vt/ and leave his position on /jp/ to someone that wanted it.
I don’t think this is about making a Touhou containment board. I think this mod hates Touhou so much that he wants to oust it off of 4chan altogether. I think his end goal is to make /jp/ so terrible for Touhou fans to use that we just voluntarily migrate to another forum entirely. I think he wasn’t satisfied with the creation of /vt/ because he can’t stand the notion that we’re elsewhere on 4chan enjoying our 2hus.
But what the fuck do I know? I’m hopelessly applying logic to a situation seemingly devoid of it, and it’s driving me crazy.
No.168245
I used to believe that staying and trying to actively improve things by participating and propping up the more actual Otaku threads in /jp/ would be the better choice, but after almost 6 years of tolerating this bullshit I'm pretty burnt out. The red anons were right about staying on a very slowly sinking ship.
No.168248
Good luck replacing the mods. How would they even recruit new trustworthy ones? How many people are going to apply when there's a risk of exposing your identity? The only reason we are stuck with current moderation is because the site is at risk of getting infiltrated.
No.168249
>>168245I believed the same and tried to make quality posts, but you can tell the place is run by people that hated us, the /j/ logs confirming that as well.
>>168248The current mods won't leave, they will just powertrip and run everyone off as expected
No.168250
>>168243Man you and me are the same.
Although I like a lot of the other gens in that thread and not just Rikanon's
>You’d think he’d just fuck off to mod /vt/ and leave his position on /jp/ to someone that wanted it.I have another theory that it's an ego thing about /vt/ being considered a "containment board" by 2hu/jp/
They really took the phrase "isn't vtubing otaku culture too?" to heart and thus have a weird fixation on merging the boards again just so that their interests aren't seen as something to be contained (or more specifically the obnoxious obsessive behaviour the other fans of said interests have)
No.168251
>>168223I linked the Warosu thread on purpose.
>>168222 No.168252
>>168250If they were concerned about Vtubing being otaku culture, then why talk about English VTubers? That doesn’t seem like it fits the bill of otaku culture.
No.168253
Even with the change I don't see much of 4/jp/ moving over here. Lack of an ability to archive kills a lot of generals and this isn't a general heavy website. Character image threads can probably survive though it'll just be a constant refreshing of character threads every 2 weeks. I could see the writing threads migrating to THP.
No.168256
I think he meant that the threads won't archive as in the thread creation rate is too slow.
No.168257
>>168256Not if the vtumor spammer has anything to say about it.
No.168258
>>168256I definitely meant in the sense that there's no warosu equivalent for here. As
>>168257 pointed out slow generals will get bumped off the board once the 14 days are up. Probably before that considering how bad the spam is right now.
No.168259
>>168258well, I think the site's hardware/money guy is setting up some parts for a server he had sitting in a box up until now, so I'll see about what I can put up onto that for storing threads...
There is
https://kissu.moe/jp/archive/ (hope I don't board link into this...) but it's a tool I use to restore threads in case of spam.
No.168261
I decided to take a look at if the meido's actually deleting any of the Hololive spam threads and he apparently is, but guess what? He's still closing his eyes in the face of like 30 of them that anybody who looked at the catalog for 10 minutes could easily see. It'd only take 2 minutes tops for a competent janny to clean up a days worth of catalog flooding, but this is apparently the best he can manage. He didn't even go after the thread I reported which isn't even one that has a Japanese vtuber in it.
https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=op&search_del=yes&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=postAbsolutely insane.
No.168262
>>168261I think it’s telling that more of the threads are threads criticizing the lack of response as opposed to spam.
No.168263
>>168238>>168240>>168242I wouldn't be so sure of that, I've seen someone posting their mascot OC in the Tengu thread even after being told to fuck off.
No.168264
>>168262Truly. I actually went ahead and reported at least 7 of the threads as spam and they have done fuck all but clean up some random posts in a 3DPD thread since.
No.168267
I'm 99% sure the Hololive spammer is the same one that used to spam and post bait nonstop like 3 or 4 years ago. Talks the same, same annoying strategies and uh, same mod-protection even.
No.168268
>>168267I'm starting to think he's either a mod or a janny at this point.
No.168270
>>168265Pretty sure they have been running ads for a while.
No.168273
>>168210>All of this because the anons in their general want to post their favorite vtuber in the OP btw.I thought it were because they hit image limit pretty quickly so they want to move on to a new thread as soon as possible.
No.168274
>>168268It's 100% a janny/mod. Ages ago i went through some different reporting form to forward a shitpost vtumor thread to the admins because it was literally just one poster bumping it back up with one word posts and not long after it got bumped with a poster saying something along the lines of "hehehe did somebody report this thread hehe" or some kuso
No.168275
>>168273There's that too, but the reason why you see like a few hololive thread being created (before they get deleted obviously) is because they are fighting to get their favorite girl in the OP.
No.168277
>>168274Could just have been warned. At the very least though, I recognize the kind of shitposting from years ago.
No.168285
>>168268Do you think it's also the same anon who keep telling he wish that we would go to altchans already ?
I find it weird how the janny didn't nuke the latest complain thread already despite he nuked some of the posts here
No.168287
I don’t really understand your drama, but I’ve always viewed 4chan as a Russian 2ch, just more politicized and more cancerous.
No.168288
>>168248The only way things could ever change is if, by a miracle, someone managed to buy the website from hiro and then went on to purge the entirety of the mod team (allowing the few good ones to return after close scrutiny) and improved the board's security until it fits proper standards.
No.168289
>>168215is it bad that I like the chinese girl threads?
No.168290
>>168265holy kuso they let you do that?
No.168291
>>168261That's an average of one thread deleted every 4 hours, impressive.
No.168294
>>168293Looks like the overall thread count is sloooooooowly going down, from circa 72 hidden threads to 68 now. Haven't shown up for me on Warosu yet though.
No.168295
>>168251Well, it's a warosu thread either way now.
>>168289I like those even if the content I actually like is very minimal. Writefagging always has a place in my heart even if it has some of the biggest autists and spergs.
No.168297
>>168296Oh wow 10 of the 72 threads are gone, jp is saved.
No.168301
>>168299I wouldn't hold my hopes up until the jannies go on a nuking spree at all of them at once. The spammer will eventually create a bunch of spam threads in a few hours.
No.168302
>>168300I literally told in my post that this didn't solve much but at least I get to be smug about him getting BTFO. I am self-aware enough to know this. Now back to the regular programming.
>>168301He probably will.
No.168303
Do yourselves a favor and don't go back, there are several other /jp/ spinoffs including kissu, pick the one or two you like and stay. Close 4/jp/ forever, the dream is dead because the janman killed it
No.168305
>>168303There are still a couple threads I want to check, but after those are inevitably autosage'd, I think I'll leave forever.
Weird to think about it, since 4/jp/ has been the only board I've consistently used for the last few years, but even before this latest change I noticed the catalog turning uglier and uglier, so I guess this was inevitable.
No.168306
>>168299>>168300Even if the jannies went full damage control and removed the 14day autosage and actually started doing their jobs, I don't think I'd go back.
Quite honestly this site does everything that 4 did, and it does it better.
The only shame is that not everyone was onboard with leaving it...
I really don't want to see the history repeat itself, when during the hack everyone started using alts and came back immediately after it was over. No.168307
>>168304
not even t wants people to go to gn
No.168309
>>168307that's what he would want you to think
No.168310
>>1683034/jp/ refugee here, kinda aids that they just did this out of the blue (i saw the signs, but still), I really enjoyed the esoteric threads but I guess we cant have nice things.
It is what it is, was mostly a lurker anyway
No.168311
I really don't understand what the goal behind this constant complaining about 4chan is supposed to be, it's all a never ending circle of misery for everyone involved. Everyone here knows the site in general is not worth browsing except for "that one good thread / singular post every few days", even the bunch that still goes back to deliberately ruin their mood all have known this for many years and yet you still make the same mistake every single day before coming here to complain about all the same issues.
I can see that there's bonding potential between anons sharing disdain for the same thing, but I'm sure you'd all feel much better if you finally gave up on this lost cause and instead focused on posting the positive things you actually want to see, here or on other good places.
No.168312
>>168289If the archive for this site goes up I'll look into trying to get everyone from the Chinese threads onboard to moving over.
No.168313
Who are you?
Why did this thread get 80 new posts in 12 hours?
No.168316
>>168239Yeah, we have AI threads for talking about the tech or for posting images. (/ec/ and /maho/ respectively)
I'm a big fan of local AI, but there just hasn't been enough overall interest for the threads to remain active, so those people could move in fine. We have threads going back to the original SD leak back in, uhh... 2021 was it?
I think most 2D-oriented boards have a ban on AI, but kissu is an exception as long as it's posted in the right places.
No.168318
>>168311As a 4 refugee I sort of get it.
It's hard to let go of a site that you've spent (in many cases) years building.
It's hard to just forget the "good" threads and anons.
Visiting 4/jp/ now just feels disheartening to me, you can still recognize some anons posting despite the spam.
No.168319
>>168276>but I got timed out/warned for trying to talk about 4chan bans in the kissu blogs thread so sorry if this pisses you off.Seems like a connection issue as there was no moderation action. This would be the proper thread for talking about 4chan stuff directly, though.
No.168320
>>168310As the drawfag from the drawing requests, I saw the signs in 2021 with /vt/ split not actually cleaning out the board, plus the yurifag shitting up all of the touhou threads without getting banned, one of my request threads completely derailed because I failed to recognize it, and other ones where the dude instigated but I was able to hold him back. The jannies don't give a fuck and are more than likely pushing it themselves.
>>168317There isn't much to do on gn besides beg t to stream, board doesn't have much culture despite having a cool theme.
No.168321
>>168311I'm not one of the anons complaining since I agree with the fact there's no point in doing it, but
>Everyone here knows the site in general is not worth browsing except for "that one good thread / singular post every few days"This might apply to other boards, but /jp/ had quite a few decent threads in every moment of the day, even after some /v/fags had been exiled to it and even a few /pol/fags had started ruining some of the threads slightly.
This isn't a matter of "that website was a dump with just one diamond to find once in a while, so why are you even upset about it getting shittier?", which again does apply to other boards.
In short, it is indeed better to give up because there's no solving the problem, but please don't assume nothing of value was lost.
No.168322
>>168317I don't know if the website is even decent, but the /pol/fag theme sure is a turn off for me, ironic or not.
No.168326
>>168318>It's hard to let go of a site that you've spent (in many cases) years building. >It's hard to just forget the "good" threads and anons. You've pretty much summed up my feelings. And you know some of them won't move to an altchan, or completely leave. And I can understand why.
I've seen this same scenario last year where the jannies went full retard and removed all the fun of a site, which made a few people moved to another one. But leaving people behind is a hard feeling to get off.
>Visiting 4/jp/ now just feels disheartening to me, you can still recognize some anons posting despite the spam.This is even more disheartening because of the 14 days autosage. The spam is annoying but it's something you could endure. Now the possibilites of interesting slow and comfy discussion has been made almost impossible.
No.168328
>>168325When I saw that the yuri spammer tried pulling his kuso here and immediately got banned for it, I knew this was the place to be.
No.168330
>>168312That's good to hear m
No.168331
>>168316Pretty sure that thread is entirely Local
Though it looks like the consensus is that they're worried about it becoming cliquey since 4/jp/ is mainstream enough that they might get newcomers once in a blue moon to grow the threads whereas Kissu would keep it stagnant to the users they already have (plus a little less if some regulars split)
(Spoilered just in case you don't want to look at it)
Shame cause I like their gens, sure I can still tell it ain't human made but it doesn't look like blurry 6 finger crap lazily slopped out
No.168332
>>168312Guessing if it happens it would be in the jp board?
No.168335
>>168333It's kinda odd how only those three posts were deleted, while the other three or four next to them which also had complaints were left alone.
No.168336
>>168335Probably because those are calling for a raid on /vt/ threads.
No.168337
>>168336I was wondering about the third one in particular, but I can assume it was deleted as well so people wouldn't see a (Dead) quote and go check the archive.
No.168339
>>168338I'd say /ec/ before /megu/
No.168340
>>168339>>168338Personally I don't really want to use either due to lolicon stuff on both from what I heard
No.168342
>>168340I just use /megu/ for dumping my kuso chounyuu art
No.168343
>>168340deciding what is or isn't lolicon is a bit of a rabbit hole, but I don't think /ec/ is particularly lolicon.
I think the ideal is for /ec/ to be more of a risque board than a porn board. And /megu/ well it's garbage frankly.
But the boards aren't really posted on so aside from various diehard opinions, they're boards for users to define
No.168344
>>168343I'd just rather not run afoul of moderation should the thread move over. I've seen posts that are pretty much what I'd expect in a Chinese Girl thread on this site's /jp/ but they're not as explicit as most of the writing in those threads.
No.168345
>>168344yeah. It's hard to imagine a thread on 4/jp/ being incompatible with kissu /jp/
No.168346
>>168340I exclusively use them for the lolicon on both
No.168347
>>168233>>168234I wont be bothered if they move here, can always hide the thread if I really dont want to see it anymore. While that's just me I understand AI is a touchy topic and plenty of people new and old loathe the kuso, but that's kind of why /secret/ exists, or at least was since I recall some AI threads there before and it's getting reworked into a different intent/image now. Might have to ask. There's /megu/ too since that's the defacto porn and trash board and has a permanent thread for AIgen stuff, might fit better there. Them being condensed onto hidden boards is probably why they got the impression that kissu was against AI when the subject of a home change came up after the hack.
>>168311I dont mind the complaining. People want to bitch and it's comforting to cry and complain about 'what once was' with others who feel the same. And when your NEET hobby for the last X years is shitposting about special interests on a zimbabwean alpaca herding forum it's quite the significant change to your day to day.
The stages of grief will pass and anons will move on and enjoy things. That said the habbenings thread(s) have been a negativity cesspit for quite a while and constant complaining bitching whining moaning etc. can get
exhausting.
>>168313I am me! I've been here for a few years and I came here from a neocities page!
>>168344Maybe so, but consider explicit and erotic writefagging is a relatively recent wave on 4/jp/. Though it existed in the past it hasn't been nearly as prolific in a very long time. You didn't think about whether it fits or not since it was your home and anything went so long as it was 2hu. You're being considerate which is good, and I hardly think there's anything wrong with knocking out a little niche to set up in so long as you're not being an obnoxious retard about it.
No.168348
>>168313someone who is been on 4chan for a year now and I guess used this site a tiny bit when it was down last year
No.168351
>>168350They probably wouldn't have even deleted it if it didn't ask about people leaving. Legit question too because scattering any of the writers across different image boards would kill the thread itself.
No.168352
>>168350You know, it's funny how
>All images and discussion should pertain to light and visual novels, figures and other otaku paraphernalia, Touhou Project, Vocaloid, doujin works and music, and diverse niche Japanese interests (kigurumi, idols, mahjong, tea).doesn't include vtubers, since they're far from a niche interest nowadays.
No.168356
>>168319>as there was no moderation actionthe mod in blogs is fairly vocal about the types of posts he doesn't like. he has deleted/moved my posts before.
No.168360
Question how is someone meant to talk about touhou outside of like trash or vc since v has a cp spammer problem
No.168362
>>168331>Pretty sure that thread is entirely LocalAlmost entirely, we've got one anon who uses Civit, due to (I assume) hardware limitations, he's not as active anymore, but he's been with us since March. Other than him I think it's all Local, though, with a few anons here and there using Civit purely for LoRA training.
>the consensus is that they're worried about it becoming cliqueyPretty much... as an individual user I like it more here already, but thinking about it in a more community-focused way I can't justify putting the threads through that. We've gained some incredibly nice regulars by staying, I couldn't possibly turn down the chance of gaining some more, or worse yet, losing the ones we got. I quite like the people there, enough to keep making threads for them despite not liking the way the place is being run.
>Shame cause I like their gensI mean, this has been talked to death over there, but just because the threads themselves aren't getting moved out it doesn't mean you, me or any of the posters have to stick to either Kissu or 4chan, and even if they do they're still within reach of eachother. Glad you liked that Komachi by the way, I almost picked that quad-polearm gen for my 10 favorites this year but it literally missed out by 1 spot.
No.168368
>>168285He's different, that guy's a 2hu playing schizo.
>>168303I wanna switch to here forever but I'm not a fan of how the thread watcher doesn't have an indicator for when your watched threads get a new post. It's a pain looking at dates to see when a thread I'm interested in gets an update.
No.168369
>>168362You really don't need to worry about hiding AI stuff behind spoiler tags. Some imageboards do have an extreme reaction to it, but this isn't one of them as long as you're not overtaking a thread designed for real (human) art.
As for the clique stuff, I don't entirely agree, but I see where you're coming from. People have a tendency to see peaceful imageboards as a clique or a "hugbox" because they're accustomed to open hostility and needless aggression. As long as people visit different threads and talk with other people I don't think an imageboard can be cliquey unless everyone adopts a name.
No.168370
>>168368siiiiiiiiiigh I guess I can improve the site's software a bit...
You can tell me if you want anything really changed on
>>>/b/11011 but presumably you're fine with how it is now, except that you want some indicator of a new post?
No.168371
>>168370I think he may mean the 4chanx integration I've harped on about for... a long time now.
No.168380
>>168370Ah you don't gotta go through all that trouble just for ol' me. I'll keep a tab open here always especially since I just caught a ban on 4/jp/.
>you want some indicator of a new postThis would be very nice though! It's the main 4chanx feature I miss.
No.168396
>>168388>>168395why did you reply to the same post twice
No.168398
>>168397sorry, thought you were a namefag until I saw my name changed to the same name
No.168399
>>168398Why is it changing?
No.168400
>>168399maybe it's a reference to uma musume
No.168401
>>168399We're all horsing around.
No.168408
>>168363Because the anon above also spoilered his, assumed I had to do the same.
>>168369>People have a tendency to see peaceful imageboards as a clique or a "hugbox" because they're accustomed to open hostility and needless aggression.Not at all, the 2huAI threads are pretty peaceful and I don't see them as a clique or hugbox, just relaxing, helpful and straight to the point. Either way the main reasons really just are the reduction in visibility/activity combined with the fact that we're not sure whether the 14-day rule will even affect us all that much. I'm a bit sick of talking about this by now, honestly, but if it helps clear anything up I feel like I explained it best here, too lazy to type it all again:
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/50523128#p50553143https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/50523128#p50553576 No.168466
>>168371Speaking of, just yesterday wapchan's figadmin said "Since 4chan-XT has been discontinued I'll be forking off it to build a newer version of the userscript to fix compatibility with other imageboard software."
I really hope he'll make it compatible with kissu, though I'm not holding my breath.
No.168473
The post quality on /jp/ has gotten worse. There are no longer any serious discussion threads.
It's no longer possible to have discussion because the threads would last months, up to a year in some cases. Long posts need long timeframes.
Now with spam and autosage the only threads that survive the quick turnover are the bigger generals and the character threads.
No.168474
Preparing to move the gacha derail into its own separate thread.
No.168514
>>168101/vt/umors are subhuman, that is why. The only /jp/ janny is a vtumor, that is why
No.168515
>>168511Oh, I thought I had gone insane when the thread took much less to catch up on than I had expected when opening it.
No.168517
>>168234Let the "nice" AIfag in and eventually you'll have one retard dumping his trash gens on every thread. AI should be heavily contained.
No.168518
>>168517Anon, you can just ban the retard. We do have moderation in here.
No.168519
>>168517How "nice" of you to refer to him as a fag, really makes your argument all the more compelling
No.168520
>>168276You reap what you sow, these schizos are so mentally ill they're probably using Ecker's on multiple devices, every single post you make calling out their faggotry gets mass reported. How to solve this: Stop giving him attention.
If I had one idea to improve 4chan is add a rule to not feed blatant trolls so they can just paste that on the ban message.
No.168521
>>168517>contained.Avoided, deleted, eliminated.
Look at what happens when containment is held
No.168525
I only use /jp/ for the Elona general. I don't care about anything else, that board is dead to me.
No.168529
>>168520>not feed blatant trollsThat's one thing that would drastically improve 4chan's post quality but trolls can just samefriend dupe the unsuspecting into thinking that's a valid argument between two or more people.
In the past I used to be able to easily tell if someone was samefriending with the IP counter but obviously that's been gone for a while. Did they ever justify why they removed the counter?
No.168530
>>168529When was the last time they justified anything?
No.168532
>>168517>>168518Yeah, ultimately the problem with this stuff on 4chan is that the mods don't do anything about people dumping AI slop in bad faith.
>>168520>>168529Low-functioning schizos really just spend all day replying to themselves with the ecker. It's pointless.
No.168536
>>168517>>168521Relax, as I said
countless times by now we don't plan to move the AI threads here, and as for myself I don't see a point in sharing my gens in a place where people won't like them, especially if I've already got not one but two places to do it in. I'm just here to hang out.
No.168543
>>168536This thread is primarily centered on 4chan culture and worries, so the things said here shouldn't be construed as official or unofficial kissu opinions, but rather 4chan baggage. The ills of 4chan shouldn't be confused for things that would be permitted to happen here or on any other decent imageboard. There is an unfortunate belief that the terrible things that happen over there are permitted or even encouraged to happen at other places.
We've had AI threads here for years so if you want to make them, make them. If people cause issues they will be dealt with. Don't let antisocial people that are allowed to run free on 4chan dictate what you are able to enjoy elsewhere.
No.168545
>>168543good lord that flesh-fang is hideous
No.168546
>>168545fleshfangs are molded out of primordial moe and you are an icchantika
No.168547
>>168536I'm just here to underline what
>>168543 said because I used to have a false impression about what is and isn't allowed here, too. Even Kissu has some anons that are so insistent on their opinions that you might be inclined to think they're listing some type of unspoken rules, but that's never the case.
And as
>>168518 mentioned, it's really important to remind yourself that a place with active moderation works completely different than 4chan where people are on their own when it comes to keeping bad apples out.
No.168548
>>168517we already had a guy like this and he crossed the line at some point... other times addressed case by case. So that's to say, that whatever you're trolling at is probably not a big deal
(as in it's a problem that has already been addressed and has a procedure behind it)
No.168559
The only thing that AI has problem is that some people have virtually no sense of taste or aesthetics.
No.168560
Like, on a medical level. Similar to how you can be tone deaf.
No.168570
>>168564all women should look like this irl
No.168577
>>168564>like giving it to a monkeyLike a chimp with a machine gun?
No.168594
>>168577Yeah, that's the phrase
No.168641
Where do people who used to be on the jay bewteen 2007 and 2012 hang out these days?
I am completely out of touch with 4chan since tripfags left and generals started being a thing.
No.168661
>>168641I don't think there's any set location. They scattered to the wind. Spinoffs, real life, twitter, etc. A double-edged sword of anonymity is that people can easily disappear without a trace.
No.168685
>>168683Janny wanted to kill /jp/, and he succeeded.
Even if they reverse the changes I'm not sure I'd want to go back, with the number of bad actors just allowed to do as they please on the board.
No.168690
>>168683It's a shame charts on 4stats.io are still not working, I would have liked to see the difference in speed.
No.168691
illiterate newfag here. can someone give me a QRD on the /jp/ status?
No.168692
>>168691Mods want to "speed up the board" (we don't really know what they want to do but this seems to be the least puzzling answer), so they made it so that you can't bump threads once they've existed for 14 days.
People don't like this change because it kills several generals and character threads and only really "benefits" the vtumor general (we don't even know that for sure either because apparently they're also complaining about it).
Speaking of vtumors, someone's been going around spamming holoshit character threads all over the catalogue despite having an entire containment board to do it in. They obviously did this to abuse the 14-day autosage rule and bump out
several older threads within
hours. These threads are clearly off-topic and have been continuously repoted to the mods, who have not only ignored said reports for the most part but have also warned
and banned the people reporting the threads for "misclassified reports". People who posted complaints about said threads also got banned.
And now it looks like the changes are actually so bad people
(like me) are just leaving for altchans, so instead of the board getting sped up by these changes, it is now in turn slower than ever. The AI thread used to hit page 9 or 10 within a day of having hit the bump limit, it hit the limit yesterday and it's still just halfway through page 7.
If the intentions were to speed up the board, then those are some Sagume-levels of backfiring, but there's a few other theories about the mods' true intentions out there, like them just wanting to forcibly purge /jp/ of Touhou (even though it's
the Touhou containment board), or just kill the place outright.
No.168693
>>168692Thank you for the QRD.
No.168695
>>168692From what I understand the 14 day limit on bumping was "supposedly" to stop posters from the hololive thread from "necrobumping" threads (i.e. replying to random threads on page 9/10 with empty posts) in order to get their thread archived faster. This was something they'd often do because the post limit (which was set when the general was far more active) wasn't being met while the image limit was regularly and quickly being reached.
The change has resulted in fewer threads being made, which ironically means that the hololive threads have to sit around in imageless limbo for far longer than they used to. The change arguably hurts them even more than it hurts Touhou discussion.
Even in that context the changes made are complete non-sense. hololive general is being hurt but then the mods seem to want a few "character threads" around for specific hololive members (but not too many). We also know from leaks that they were hoping that the monster girl posters would spread out and not just stick to a single general (as is what happened), so if I had to wager a guess I'd say that the /jp/ mods want /jp/ to become a general weeb culture discussion board instead of being the "Touhou" board plus a bunch of non-Touhou generals, without understanding why /jp/ is that way in the first place.
No.168697
>>168691Idk but people now seem really pissed off at the Chinese girl threads
No.168698
>>168697I'm not up to par with the Chinese girl threads but I think it's because they talked about moving to Kissu on their previous thread before it got autosaged out of the catalogue. Anons seem to be taking the chance to kuso the place up for them not doing it.
No.168699
>>168697Oh wait on second thought judging by the posting style I think that's just the turknorm shitting up random threads as usual, sometimes he'll just randomly obsess over a specific thread and do his best to derail it. Unfortunately it seems that one of the anons there took the bait and not only replied to his bait but also made him mad enough to continue to kuso up the place, lol.
No.168700
>>168699Oh didn't he say he wanted to be reincarnated as a fairy when he dies one time?
No.168701
>>168700Unfortunately I came across the google doc and it turns out he said a lot worse things than that.
On a side note, since I heard the yurispammer got banned from here near-instantly, I hope if the turk ever shows up here the same happens to him because he's a lot more disruptive, if /jp/ were moderated like any other board he'd have been gone in an instant too.
No.168702
>>168701> Unfortunately I came across the google doc and it turns out he said a lot worse things than that.Now I'm curious about the stuff said. I remembered the fairy stuff since I find it a bit hypocritical of the roach to do it if he has the something similar.
No.168703
>>168702I really don't want to derail this thread into gossip-talk about him, and frankly some of the stuff in there is just straight-up gross so I'd rather not recall it either... let's just say most of his spermer accusations are just projections and leave it at that. If you want to find it just go look for it yourself on warosu or something, can't be too hard.
No.168704
4/jp/ is a 3d girl (occasionally behind a 2d avatar) board
No.168706
>>168705I remember a while back in the meta thread here someone mentioned an /int/ thread getting botted with random reposts from previous threads. Looks like it's the same thing here, but I didn't check the scale of the problem in this case.
No.168707
>>168703Fair but I was asking due to it being a cat box link and not being sure if it is still up
No.168708
>>168706Weird. Can't imagine why.
No.168709
>>168701Is the turk anon the one that posts about what kind of tea he drinks or something? because I do recall him getting ran off of /secret/ of all boards.
No.168710
>>168706For reference, post in question was >>162212 (
https://archive.ph/9fEMC )
No.168711
>>168707Oh you're right it was a catbox link, guess you found it then.
No.168712
>>168711I remember it being one I'm just assuming it expired
No.168713
>>168712Just checked and unfortunately it still works.
No.168714
>>168713Found it too and fuck man I'm realizing in slowly turning into someone similar
No.168715
>>168714Minus being a hypocrite
No.168717
>>168695>without understanding why /jp/ is that way in the first placeIs there an actual reason other than the natural gravitation of most users towards forming discord-like environments for themselves sans an outside force? I never got into /jp/ because it was already suffering from the disease a long time ago, but I would have killed to have mods take action to actually break up generals on several other boards before they destroyed the community.
No.168719
>>168695>so if I had to wager a guess I'd say that the /jp/ mods want /jp/ to become a general weeb culture discussion board instead of being the "Touhou" board plus a bunch of non-Touhou generals, without understanding why /jp/ is that way in the first place.You are basing this on half decade old plus sources that no longer represent the current posterbase on this eternally renovating community.
No.168723
>>168714Well at least you have the wakeup call
I've had three separate wakeup calls like that in my life and I'm so thankful for each one even though two were from Breaking Bad and one was Chris-chan
No.168724
>>168717Can't speak of specific examples, but it's more convenient for those interested in a niche topic to congregate in a general than spread out across several threads that may not even gain any traction individually.
>>168721>When did mods enable the 2 weeks autosage?January 4th or 5th. Seems either only a minority cares or it's balanced out by meta complaints.
No.168759
>>168755holy fuck asian women are HIDEOUS
No.168765
>>168724>it's more convenient for those interested in a niche topic to congregate in a general than spread out across several threads that may not even gain any traction individually.So just the natural inclination of users to destroy their communities by turning imageboards into chatrooms. I feel dirty saying this, but mods made the right call.
No.168769
>>168768A bunch of low effort spam threads and a newly-made holoshit general.
Not pictured: the previous holoshit general (at 1000+ replies) getting bumped out of the catalogue by the creation of the new one. All of those Touhou threads were made within minutes, seconds, even, of eachother.
No.168771
>>168768moot's greatest mistake (creating /jp/).
No.168773
>>168766>literal porn generalKEK
No.168774
>>168766you should sort by creation date, it'd be clearer that way
No.168779
>>168293Wow even the idolfags are getting hit and they were protected by the mods for years
No.168796
>>168766I'm just glad I stopped going there. Just post touhou here and people will know its legit
No.168798
>>168774I would, but literally all of those threads are gone by now, purged by janny. Not the holoshit character slide threads made days ago for the exact same purpose, though. Those are still up.
What a great change the 14-day autosage was!
No.168847
>>168845I don't think I'll ever go back to that place... :(
No.168850
>>168845DONT GROUP ME WITH THAT GUY OKAY
I MADE THE TOILET THREAD BEFORE ALL THAT HAPPENED
No.168852
>>168845For some reason I thought it's kissu catalog and I started panicking
No.168855
/jp/ poll results are in, they're about as good as you'd expect:
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/50574118 No.168859
>>168856>they don't have an archiveAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GETTING TO IT ALRIGHT? THE HARD DRIVE ENCLOSURE WAS THE WRONG ONE SO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR TOMORROW UNTIL THE RIGHT HARDWARE ARRIVES
I'll make sure everything else is in order tonight before then.
No.168860
even if we do get it I still need to program it.. I think the whole archive thing can be adapted in the short term anyways because of how /qa/ has a 20 pages and /jp/ threads have a one month lifespan... more an excuse than a short-term problem.
No.168870
I always try and keep our major software project names based on Tsukuyomi Moon Phase lore and then Japanese mythology. If not then a literal name...
Tsukuyomi, kissu, haiji, luna.
Possibly I'll call it the Susanoo archive software due to his relation to Tsukuyomi
But the actual market name of it, who knows. Maybe I'll just repurpose luna.
No.168873
>>168859>>they don't have an archive>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GETTING TO IT ALRIGHT? THE HARD DRIVE ENCLOSURE WAS THE WRONG ONE SO I HAVE TO WAIT FOR TOMORROW UNTIL THE RIGHT HARDWARE ARRIVESBut I thought archive bad?
>>168116???????????????????
No.168874
>>168873That's a different way of archiving.
No.168875
>>168873No, archive.is just isn't compatible with sites that use pages.
No.168887
>>168874>>168875Ok when you make the archive make sure the first post is this one
>>>/jp/105470ｷﾀ───(ﾟ∀ﾟ)───!!
and this one too
>>>/jp/104584 No.168889
>>168870Cool I didn't know that
...my read list grows ever larger aaa...
No.168908
>>168855Damnit, I forgot to participate in the survey this year. Rika still got 3 votes despite that though which is just as many as last year, that's amazing.
All of the mentions of kissu and other altchans are pretty uplifting, even if the reasons behind them getting mentioned aren't...
No.168909
Also it seems that the thread has devolved into yet another "AI good vs AI bad" argument all because of a single guy's rant.
siiiiigh
No.168911
>>168766The more I see porn on the front page the less attractive the site looks
No.168945
>>168909And it's still going half a day later. If only the meido came back and cleaned up the thread like he's supposed to...
No.169013
Checked up 4cutie for the first time since a while
/adv/ seems to be much worse than it used to be, less threads that actually desire any advice, instead just /pol/bait
/trv/ looks great, one of the best boards remaining on that site
/lit/ does not look good, most threads devolve into shitflinging, not much advice given. I might honestly move to wapchan's /lit/ if they remove the flags there
/wsr/ is as good as it usually has been
No.169014
>>168945Well knowing the meido's tendencies they'd probably catch innocent anons in the crossfire too instead of just getting rid of the samefagging schizo
No.169015
>>168885No, just me. I stalk him everywhere
No.169042
>>169013/vr/ consists of
threads about console wars
threads about off-topic gen-z/millennial flame wars
threads that are shitting on games that others love to play
threads that are about CRT monitors or non-retro game hardware
threads that are about sixth-gen shovel-ware
threads that are about "aesthetics" and/or social media garbage
threads that have nothing to do with retro games
No.169044
>>169042i wish wap's /vnt/ took off
No.169045
>>169042wapchan /vnt/ is way better despite being mega slow
No.169086
>>169081
DON'T know who this tard is and DON'T tell me cause i DON'T care
No.169088
>>169084
no because he's here unfortunately
No.169090
You can feed the trolls all you want on 4chan, but I'd advise against replying here to posts on 4chan if you don't want to foster a derivative culture of gossip and drama here.
No.169092
Express caution on that "do u like touhou 12" thread in here because that's him. His MO is being a massive avatarfagging threadspamming samefagging blogposting retard in 4/jp/.
No.169093
>why does everyon e here suck
Yeah, that's him. He's better off banned, but the mods will probably learn why soon enough.
No.169095
>>169093Can always nip the problem at the bud like with so many cancers that popped up here during the hack.
No.169096
this cancer just canced me
No.169156
>>169092>>169093>>169095Just want to add to this that while I have nothing to do with the current /jp/ and don't recognize the poster, the constant self-important "eh"s and "meh"s and style of social media conversation remind me of the worst of the worst attentionseekers from s4s, so I can certainly see why you'd be worried.
No.169175
>>169013>/trv/ looks great, one of the best boards remaining on that sitei'm guessing that because it's a board about a topic that requires people to go outside, it doesn't attract as many autistic people. it's probably got the lowest population of autistic people on the whole site. not that there is anything wrong with being autistic, but it's very apparent that autism increases the chances of a being a shut in that never leaves the house which also increases the chances of being a dedicated no life spammer/shitposter. notice how all the baords about vidya and animation tend to be pretty chaotic. probably because they're about hobbies that don't require people to leave their homes and therefor they're more likely to attract the types of posters i described earlier
No.169178
>>169175They have the best adventures documented on that board, even if there's the occasional poster that is from /pol/
No.170145
Show full post history
No.170146
>>170144I'm not allowed to post it in blogs... forgive me, senpai...
No.170267
>>167154i give up, the captcha is too time consuming
No.170321
>>170314This is nuts when you take into account that even with that massive dip in activity, what little activity does remain has been confined to generals, and out of those generals the hololive one probably has more PPM than most of the other ones combined. A reminder that they have a whole board for themselves by the way...
Aside from less than a handful of exceptions I can't remember the last time a new thread was made that wasn't a zombie slide thread or a general. Hell, they even tried to create a fake AI general to help bump theirs off the catalog...
No.170323
And speaking of the AI general, maybe I'm just assuming things but I think things over at 4/jp/ have gotten so bad that some anons have just resorted to using that general to talk about Touhou, I might be overthinking it but maybe it's because it's a sure-fire way of talking with actually interested anons instead of speaking into the void in a copypasted slide thread. It's not exactly anything new per se, much less something bad, we've always had a lot of writefags in there and there's always been a lot of non-AI related 2hu discussion in there, but there's been a notable increase lately and some of the anons now posting have outright said that they're new.
On the one hand I'm happy the general I frequent has gotten more active but on the other hand I obviously can't help but feel annoyed at the circumstances that have made it more active and I feel sort of bad about the anons that don't like AI but have found themselves posting there just because that's where the Touhou activity went...
No.170326
>>170321I found an exception, they have their own NEET thread too.
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/50588639And it's just /soc/. No.170327
>>170303I'm still here. IIRC kissu admin said after the first month or so post-2025-hack that about 20-25% of the refugees remained. May be interesting to see the stats for the autobump migration.
>>170319>>1703214/jp/'s current PPD is below all recorded on 4stats, and chunk of that is Hololive alone.
>>170325Basically cargo cults?
No.170328
>>170327We're at about 70% of the autobump migration activity.
No.170329
>>170327>20-25% Sounds about right
>>170328Less crossover with 4chan in general vs actual hobby boards
No.170349
Big happening with the Epstein files mentioning moot, /pol/ and 4chan
No.170350
>>170349In a really twisted way, I think it's kinda sweet that most people are joking about moot getting raped instead of accusing him of doing this stuff.
No.170352
>>170349If it's not next morning's headline, it didn't happen.
No.170357
>>170327Them being cargo cults is a great descriptor actually.
No.170361
>>170349Where can I read about this?
No.170368
Pretty disturbing to know moot was apparently friends with that sack of kuso. I thought he was better than this
No.170369
>>170368I mean it is being memed a fair bit right now, but nobody knows if they had any real contact besides Epstein caring about Moot around 2011.
No.170370
>>170369Someone mentioned moot to Jeff, but he might not have given it any thought.
No.170371
>>170370I think there were three separate instances mentioning him, not sure which one was Epstein.
You could probably just search here and see what you find.
https://www.justice.gov/epsteinNoted that you can also search for URLs, so if you check for 4chan image domains you can find what threads he was looking at.
No.170372
>>170364a tale as old as time: don't meet your heroes.
No.170374
>>170366Man, I could have called an intelligence asset and powerbroker billionaire a faggot directly.
No.170376
>>170373https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02545389.pdf>I introduced Boris to Chris Poole and got them talking, encouraged Boris =o get to know him.Boris said the two of you (this was sent to epstein) really hit it off. ;-)
Mootbros?
No.170377
>>170366Hmm, nobody archives /s/ do they?
Especially not images from over 12 years ago?
No.170380
>>170371Man this is frustrating to use, so many instances of the same emails being repeated
No.170381
Wasn't Epstein already a "meme" on /tv/ at the time. I remember there being recurring threads. That's where I learned about the guy.
No.170383
>>170381at the time meaning early 2010s
No.170391
Supposedly the conspiracy goes kind of like this now if my lurking is right
>around end of 2011, Chris meets Epstein because of some guy called Boris
>They hit it off and apparently talk for hours
>/pol/ is later brought back in this same time period between end-2011 and start-2012
>we know from the files that epstein is buddies with bannon who is basically just saying /pol/ kuso all the time
>epstein made moot bring back /pol/
no sense in saying it's true though but people like to connect dots
No.170396
>>170391Stuff was certainly going on behind the scenes to turn 4chan into an activist army, but moot brought /pol/ (and /r9k/) back because the ED admin convinced him that the deletion of communities from the internet, even terrible ones, was against his internet ideals. Poor naive moot summoned forth so much garbage out of his misguided idealism.
No.170397
>>170396True.
But even knowing there's a connection does make things interesting. I recall Bannon has some kuso in the whole Gamergate stuff too, but I'm no expert.
No.170399
>>170398>one of the greatest hackers wwwwww
No.170400
>>170391¥ghislane astroturfed reddit¥jeffery astroturfed 4chanI buy it, epstien also got banned off of xbox live too.
>>170321Yeah if you spend enough time on 4stats you'll notice that outside of generals most boards have cripplingly low activity, 4/biz/ basically died for a while when the jannies there tried to force email verification and the stock market general moved to /bant/ for several months (before also getting killed off by early bakers).
No.170402
>>170401we have the full name for the guy unless it's a fake name, so search away
No.170404
oh kuso
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01990136.pdf>This article describes why I find moot interesting.>The potential for manipulation is huge. No.170406
I can't believe Epstein was into yuri
No.170407
>>170405>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080906102.html>4chan users seize Internet's power for mass disruptionseh, kuso article
No.170409
>>170405The link in question:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080906102.html>One morning in June, Google's list of the top global searches began to fill up with random words: "fried chicken," "comic book stores," "gyms." Before anyone could stop it, a racial slur jumped to the No. 1 spot. >Corporations spend millions of dollars trying to understand and control traffic on the Internet, and more often than not they don't succeed. 4chan has mastered the feat for free.>Created seven years ago by a 15-year-old, 4chan is a vast web of anonymous, uncensored message boards. No one's in charge, but the site's users have managed to pull off some of the highest-profile collective actions in the history of the Internet.Turns out the self-righteous idiots who were "saving the world" were the biggest pawns of all. Do you feel like a hero yet?
No.170411
>>170406I wonder who his favorite girl was
No.170413
>>170409>Do you feel like a hero yet?At this point they've devolved into the spiteful mutants they once hated.
No.170414
4/pol/ just nuked all moot X epstien threads
No.170423
>>170420holy kuso is it really boris nikolic, serbian fashionista (not to be confused with jeffrey epstein's executor)???
No.170424
>>170420Please relay my secret message to moot.
you're cute No.170427
>>170349Holy fucking kuso just saw it
No.170429
>>170349I thought it was long known 4chan was a fed honeypot? Obviously moot was in on it
No.170430
>>170429Everything is a fed honeypot to be fair
No.170431
well the kuso that happened in the last 23 years wasn't coincidence, what a strange state of affairs
No.170448
moot was so wise to just become a digital ghost a decade ago
No.170449
>>170448does he still exist..
No.170456
>>170452jokes write history
No.170457
>>170399nobody rips Japanese BBS code quite like him
No.170459
>>170429I'm the only one alive who doesn't think Epstein was a fed honeypot.
No.170477
I'm not sure if what I am reading is real, or I am hallucinating everything.
What the fucking fuck.
No.170481
>>170377The only chance you've got is asking /s/ users to search for those filenames among their saved pictures.
No.170493
>>170397He did.
I don't have his exact words on hand and would prefer not to search, but the gist of it is that 4chan and related communities were used primarily by antisocial nerds who went out of their way to avoid real life, mainstream media, and, most importantly, real-world politics. To him, it meant that 4chan users were blank slates. Because they didn't care about politics, they didn't know anything about politics, so you could tell them whatever you wanted, and so long as you could tie it back into something that they did care about, like the media they used to escape from the reality that they disliked, they would listen to you.
No.170499
Everyone's always so fixated on /pol/ they just totally erase /r9k/ from what happened.
People forget moot the egoist. What matters is that /r9k/ and /new/ didn't go to 4chon to die, and once they'd demonstrated they weren't going to whither away on the vine it was better for moot to bite the bullet on stuff he didn't like so he could have them back under his wing, in his house, where he was king.
No.170503
>>170493And you could instill in them a false sensed of truth, sort of similar to stay at home mums
No.170522
>>170409If you weren't developing any skills that's on you
No.170540
HAHAHHAHAHA /pol/ really was a fed psyop
No.170542
Why does /pol/ still exist? Do the people who run 4chan want the site to keep being the right wing hugbox that it currently is?
No.170543
>>170542>Why does /pol/ still exist?It has a high PPH so it probably generates a lot of advertisement money.
>Why does /pol/ still exist? Do the people who run 4chan want the site to keep being the right wing hugbox that it currently is?Hiroyuki is an enigma. He hardly interacts with 4chan so you'd think he bought it just for the money. But there's certainly better ways to invest your money with a higher return on investment.
No.170544
>>170543>It has a high PPH so it probably generates a lot of advertisement money.The average /pol/tard is the kind of troglodyte that doesn't use an adblocker.
No.170545
>>170542They should change its name to /jeff/
No.170546
>>170544The average /pol/tard uses an Apple device without an adblocker
No.170547
>>170544The average /pol/tard is indian
No.170548
The average /pol/tard uses tabs instead of spaces
No.170554
Heh it's spread all over the site now all the major boards have jannies on overtime
No.170557
>>1705544chan is fucked now isn't it? This is gonna make gg look like a joke
No.170558
>>170557Im a firm believer of Nothing Ever Happens, and think that in this case nothing will continue ever happening
No.170560
Man, 4/jp/ sucks. Every interaction outside the generals feels like screaming into the void.
No.170561
>>170560>4/jp/Where is flanfly? Where is Tenshi eating a corndog? Where is japanese bird eating spaghetti? I don't know why I still bother.
No.170566
>>1705604/jp/ isn't even a hollow shell of its former self, its fucking dead and never to be revived
No.170572
>>170391I did not think I could hate a man this much but I do now
No.170574
Why werent these 'files' released earlier?
Is there any reason to believe any of this is real and not just government written fanfiction (like 90% of politics)?
No.170576
>>170560For me it all ended when fun people like !bar left over a decade ago
No.170579
>>170574Why would the DoJ get itself in trouble by releasing falsified files?
No.170581
>>170579What trouble are they actually in? (drama is not trouble)
They could easily just release manufactured files to give everyone a laugh for a while and make them stop saying "where are the epstein files???" because now they 'revealed the epstein files' that for some reason took years to hide faces names and personal information of the victims (something one guy could do in that time, and I would assume there was more than one guy working on it)
No.170582
>>170560I don't see why anyone would post in r9k or v now unless they're addicted. It's just posting without getting a reply. Even b is much better from my belief.
No.170583
>>170581I assume they would get in legal trouble if they released manufactured files. If not now, when a new administration (maybe Democratic) comes and reveals the truth
No.170584
>>170583Yeah
You would assume people would get in trouble for a lot of things they never end up getting in trouble for
We'll see if this escalates to anything other than some low-mid ranking fallguy getting put in jail and/or assassinated but I doubt it
No.170598
>>170321I like to check up on the 07th Expansion and Vocaloid ones from time to time. Both have been incredibly slow lately. Sometimes with around 15 PPD.
No.170612
>>168238They WON'T keep to themselves
No.170615
>>168520I got a different idea:
Have a mod bait the schizo and then ban anything that starts reporting the post.
No.170616
>>170612A little late to reply to that. They have been.
No.170619
>>170616Ah, right. I should check the date first. Sorry.
No.170624
>>170616Puts things into perspective, doesn't it. A community was barred from migrating, not out of anything kissu did, but because some domineering types scared them off and the "troublemakers" decided not to come over because they thought it would bother people. Ironic.
I will again say that AI people are welcome to post on kissu in the proper locations and someone that doesn't pay attention to kissu enough to notice that nothing happened a month later does not speak for it in any official capacity.
No.170625
>>170619They ended up not moving here anyways, as far as I can tell only I did and I've said multiple times that I don't want to post AI here.
No.170626
>>170624>but because some domineering types scared them off and the "troublemakers"In all honesty, as one of the people actually in charge of "officiating" the decision not to come over, the main reason was the userbase split that would occur if we did move, and the fact that the one reason that made us ponder moving (the 14-day autosage rule) ended up not affecting our general too much. It only has an effect on us when we hit the bump limit and we have to wait thrice as long to get bumped off the catalog as we used to have to back then (especially since A: /jp/ has slowed down drastically, and B: nobody in our general makes slide threads, unlike a certain other general).
No.170628
>>170624Not to bash moderators, but I don't see how situations like this are going to stop happening in the future if the shitflingers won't at the very least receive clearly visible public warnings under their post or get banned outright if they continue roleplaying as boss of this place. I don't mind genuine discussion about the potential disadvantages of allowing X and Y in, but people obviously unwilling to do so are the trash that will always hold us back when it comes down to it.
No.170642
>>170628Situations like this continuing to happen is a good thing that shouldnt be stopped
The 4/jp/ safespace general for AI is working fine for them so why migrate, current 4 is a haven for gachafags, AIsloppers, and idolfags so they should just stay there
Not much point in Kissu if it just brings over all the sloppa from modern 4/jp/ instead of staying a true otaku site
No.170643
This weekend felt like a fever dream, the Silver crash and now these news....
No.170645
>>170642>sloppers>sloppaUsing words from /pol/ isn't helping your case much.
No.170649
>>170628If someone says "I don't want this on kissu" it's not exactly mod impersonation since people are free to have their own preferences. These threads tend to have a lot of meta in them so squashing it with mod tools kind of goes against the whole spirit of things if people aren't being purposely disruptive.
In the happenings threads so far the AI people have been very polite and accommodating while those against it have been quite aggressive and shitpost-y so if nothing else the community should be able to judge things accordingly.
No.170650
>>170645That terminology is literally everywhere because its referring to it as what it is
Theres even a wikipedia article about 'AI slop'
>>170648Yes liking (the western headed) death of anime would make one fairly distinctly 'not an otaku' I think
Liking 1 thing can be a very obvious tell someone doesnt fit into a group, its like someone enjoying dog-fighting as a passtime and saying theyre a pacifist
No.170651
>>170642I don't think it's a good thing at all to allow anons to continuously shitpost about things that have already been officially confirmed to be allowed on here, it completely goes against the genuine discussion and exchange of otaku-related media that people come here for in the first place. There have even been 1 or 2 people in the past who tried to argue that /maho/ should disappear because "/g/ is kuso and a danger to harbor", no valuable points made whatsoever. People forget that moderation on here is actually active and things can easily be worked against officially if they ever get out of hand, like limiting a subgroup to their own thread for easy hiding if necessary, yet so many are unwilling to discuss even that because they simply don't like the subject matter.
You could just as well rally against all Shonen-related media and try to get people off the site for daring to not post Moe, it would be a horrible community for anyone but 4chan addicts to want to participate in. Again, that doesn't mean issues can't be discussed in a normal manner to figure out potential counter measures and whatnot.
No.170654
>>170651>You could just as well rally against all Shonen-related media and try to get people off the site for daring to not post MoeSure? On kissu it's not an issue but it absolutely accelerated /a/'s death when Naruto was allowed and general shonenposting was normalized. Certain things attract certain kinds of people.
No.170655
>>170650>Liking 1 thing can be a very obvious tell someone doesnt fit into a group, its like someone enjoying dog-fighting as a passtime and saying theyre a pacifistThe things you are listing out aren't mutually exclusive and it's especially ironic given that the AIslopper has been the one hosting the drawing nights on Kissu.
No.170657
>>170651From what Ive seen theres plenty of people voicing complaints in non-shitpost manner, but you seem to think every post voicing an opinion different from your own is a shitpost thay should be censored deleted and shamed
No clue what the shonen analogy has to do with anything because even complete diehard shonen-haters cant argue that shonen is 'anti-anime'bit AI is the most damaging thing to japanese animation there is nowadays, a quarantine thread for that would be better than allowing it in full but if you give them an inch it is hard to imagine they wouldnt eventually want a mile (and this is thinking long term after watching the slow degeneration of so many other sites)
>>170655>the things you are listing out arent mutually exclusive>dog (((FIGHTING)))>pacifist (against fighting)???
I havent joined the draw nights so cant comment on the relevance of that
No.170658
>>170657>>dog (((FIGHTING)))wtf the norms hate dogs???
No.170659
I don't know where this discussion came from but FUCK AI
No.170660
>>170649Pretty much, so far it's all been just people using it as a scapegoat just because they don't like it. Just like on twitter.
No.170669
>>170501Don't get me wrong, I myself am in the camp that I generally don't give a kuso what happens in real world so long as I'm left alone. But when I was younger, it absolutely made me susceptible to the weird quasi-libertarian politics being pushed by people like Banon, Thiel, and Yarvin.
If you want to stay apolitical, you need to be vigilant. As soon as you feel the need to "defend" your hobbies, you've lost; you're no longer dedicating time to said hobbies, you're instead wasting your life as a pawn in some freak's political game. The more time you spend "defending" these hobbies, the further you get from actually caring about them to begin with. There's people I followed back in the GamerGate days because they were talking about censorship in media, and when I check in on them now, they've devolved into full-on conservative political commentators, indistinguishable from the drek my uncle would listen to on the radio back in the 2000s.
No.170672
haven't seen a community yet that openly accepts ai thats managed to keep it contained
after all, it means you're accepting people that don't care to spend time on the things they're posting. inviting a bunch of crap randomly associated together that you're now forced to filter through that boils down to a passing thought from the one who generated it: 'fern :t (((gigantic_breasts))) ((dark_nipples))'
No.170675
>>170672>you're accepting people that don't care to spend time on the things they're postingYou're wrong, but as someone who's a part of the community I understand why you have that perception of AI. I'm not going to be the one to change your mind (was never really good at classroom debates and it seems to me like you've already made up your mind on this subject) but just know there are exceptions for everything, and in my opinion it's never a good idea to try to pass off assumptions on things you're unfamiliar with as fact, regardless of the subject.
I haven't really been contributing to the conversation because all in all I think this entire discussion has been largely unnecessary and has devolved (as any AI argument usually does) into people from either side of the coin trying to one-up one-another, nobody is learning anything from this and nobody seems to want to either. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I've already said countless times that we're not moving here, our regulars don't want to, and on the off-chance that we did, V has outright said they have measures in place to prevent whatever it is you guys are concerned about (
>>168548). You guys can stop making such a shitstorm of the AI boogeyman, people for and against alike, this is why I don't want to post my stuff here.
No.170679
The problem I have with AI is personal, but I wouldn't complain about seeing homosex culture even though I'm only 10% homo. I'd just say it's a nice cock
No.170680
>>170675Thank you for being on Kissu outside of the topic, too.
No.170683
>>170574¥politicsProbably to get Trump to strike Iran, despite being completely owned (per the FBI tip) he's not 100% cooperating, probably on behalf of the Gulf states.>>170555Saved
>>170542All the senpais without adblock generate revenue and rapeape sees the site as just /pol9k/ as evidenced by letting other boards die out/become unusable.
>>170669Extremely good post.
No.170687
>>170350That's because average user of that website would cry and have an identity crisis, if they had to acknowledge that they are frequenting a website created by a NY norm, that was lax about enforcing CP being hosted on it (often up for hours on /b/, now on /v/) through its whole history. That seemingly banned the lolicon board and content (and creating one in the first place), but permitted and had non-stop threads for it on /b/ (and /c/, /e/, /u/). And now revealed to be an Epstein associate ON TOP OF ALL PRIOR.
Many people would suck moot's cock if they could, that's how much he is idolized. Which is bizarre to me, as everything about him points to the possibility of moot being a bad person. Not to mention he never cared about the average anon, he had his circlejerk already when creating 4chan, and a circlejerk that was known to have lolicons and self-declared pedophiles.
>yeah, I'm a 4channer, you know, porn the website from moot, the Epstein's friendwho the fuck am I quoting?
No.170689
>>170650Not that anon but I'm sick of how overused this word has become that people now use it to describe anything that's considered "bad". Not just for things that are AI-related. I hate when someone comes up with a new term and the whole internet puts it in their everyday vocabulary without a single thought/idea of how stupid they sound. Same with words like "enshittifaction", which also sounds retarded in my opinion.
No.170690
>>170689you sound like the kind of person who enjoys qualityslop
(USER WAS KILLED FOR THIS POST) No.170695
>>170543Hiro can't do that because he has serious debts / civil judgements against him in Japan. If he puts his money in anything remotely mainstream he risks his assets being seized by Nip courts.
No.170701
>>170689>>170690I was going to say lol, reminds me of that "it's qualityslop you just like it because it's good" which had 1000 replies
No.170702
>>170687I thought weebs / /jp/ was cool with Lolicon?
No.170706
>log on to kissu
>immediately get a face full of cheese pizza
Can we hire an assassin to find the sicko posting this across every spin-off board?
No.170709
>>170706That's not a 4chan happening and it's something that affects certain /jp/ spinoffs far more, generally the ones on vichan with limited moderation.
No.170710
Oh, i didn't even realize there was a 4chan happening thread AND an imageboard happening thread
No.170713
>>170709I mean, it's not even specifically an issue with /jp/ spinoffs. Most imageboards have this issue. I suspect the guy doing it uses a webscraper to catalog imageboards. Actually, I could test this, as I have an imageboard I haven't shared publicly.
No.170753
>>170672If you want an even older example look at now ancient /b/. Why did templates like motivationals or the advicedog offshoots take over? Because people could crank out 200 low effort macro templates for every 1 drawing or 1 actual photoshop.
Places like kissu are partially insulated from that effect by being slower and not having the time pressure to make something quick that faster places have but it is just math, and the AI gens being quickest to the punch the skew is inevitable.
No.170764
>>170762Idk but thats a nice mustache
No.170769
>>170762It's impossible to know unless you were there. Old SA goons in particular have
extreme remorse for everything they did or said on the internet back in the 00s so it makes things very complicated. The guy admits that he has a vendetta for moot which causes issues of bias. It's hard to take this as gospel for those reasons. It's easy to believe that a 15 year-old wasn't making and managing things himself, though.
It's hard for me to watch these youtube videos that have 1 minute of readable information spread across 30 minutes. Currently as I write this he's in minute three of talking about mass graves (???)
Time to skip around... okay he's talking about elon... skipped again, he's commanding his dog to do something.. I just can't do this format. Why can't people just write text on the internet any more?
No.170770
>>170769Every kid ends up having remorse for what they do later on. What impresses me is when people have no remorse.
No.170772
>>170770expect us...........
No.170787
>>170769>Old SA goons in particular have extreme remorse for everything they did or said on the internet back in the 00s certainly makes me think of foone (popcornmariachi)
No.170788
>>170762He references the lolikon board and apparently he's a big factor why it was axed.
Slightly off topic but holy kuso, I went to the Complete History page and there was a full ass page of the /l/ board posted just last year. It's like seeing a stuffed unicorn corpse out in the Smithsonian.
No.170830
>>170787Searching about that goon... Looks like he was a rather interesting indiviual. Uh, 4chan is mentioned a lot on the same thread.
No.170832
>>170762Ok, time for the rare triple post:
I've spent longer than I should lurking this guy on X, corroborating on old.sage, etc.
emails with moot, many OG's recognizing him, the lynchpin being a now vanished blogpost on 4chan itself called "Anatomy-of-a-legal-th
reat" which certainly existed at one point in time.
He must be very close to the truth; not lying about what he says. I suspect there to be omissions anyways.
However, his motives are clearly tainted with personal resentment over moot becoming the famous one, despite also admitting that "they" fronted him out of legal cowardice. Well, of course the CEO reaps the biggest rewards, or gets put on the hot seat when the company is in t he shitter. moot has clearly moved on from this with some of the most dedicated and total severing of ties I've ever seen, and but this Luigi cosplayer is still wallowing in all of this while simultaneously calling him pathetic and provoking fights again, (now that the Epstein emails are fresh and he feels he has a solid platform to launch his vendetta from)
Here he is revealing himself and making drama public with Asan. Actually, I was much more sympathetic to his cause until I saw this display.
Asan has his account priv locked and I'm sure this didn't help. He airs it out himself as if it were to make him look better here:
https://x.com/FalconryFinance/status/1616296362987098112If he weren't a hypocrite he ought to have done this over a decade ago.
No.170835
Did the chinese girl threads from 4/jp/ moved to an alt chan?
No.170845
>>170788That's not /l/.
I mean that literally it's not4chan's /l/.
It's before my time too because it's missing /ss/ as a board.
No.170851
>>170769>It's hard for me to watch these youtube videos that have 1 minute of readable information spread across 30 minutes. Currently as I write this he's in minute three of talking about mass graves (???)Apparently he suffered an emotional breakdown in 2023 so that might have something to do with it. But I agree that his choice of an increasingly darkening field as the scenery for a youtube video about old internet knowledge is a little bizarre.
No.170855
>>170845Ah, explains the strange board color.
Not sure why it was included in a citation for 4chan history then.
No.170856
>>170687"associate" is debatable
>>170788>>170851>>170855funny how warosu's CSS was likely based on this
No.170861
>>170832I was originally going to mention in a post that he seemed quite mentally ill, but that kind of comes with the territory. The feelings of revenge he has towards moot makes him unreliable and prone to inventing scenarios that never happened, which is a shame because if it wasn't there it he could write things of great interest to internet historians.
>AsanI hope he's doing alright. Being on twitter, though, I doubt he thinks of imageboards much these days. A shame that people like him were driven away when they were its lifeblood.
No.170878
>>170788Jesus Christ and the Prophet Muhammad, as a lolicon myself that is actual pedotalk.
No.170910
I ended looking at the epstein files again. From what I found, that guy was browsing the yuri board and sending links to images.
What the fuck. If he had known about the old lolicon board maybe it would have come back the same day as /pol/?
No.170916
>>170915I can't even access the post that got him permabanned despite being from 2018. Either a dead subforum, or a post awful enough that they completely deleted it.
No.170917
>>170915Cont. From what I could find on the legends thread, he may have an habit of always inflating things to make them look much bigger than they are in reality (so not a reliable narrator). Also, he claimed to have worked for Dick Cheney.
No.170919
>>170762It's weird how much he rambles, just a bunch of stories... He hides behind how much he says he doesn't care, but actually cares.
Even if I take his opinion that moot left the limelight just to cash out on a scheme and collect the money, moot did leave and stopped caring about his persona and never tried to do anything with it. Just became a pawn to Google then left. That's not how the person he describes should behave.
And to see that a mod permabanned him over issues concerning firearms, it's a bit concerning.
I'm going to have to consider the SA mods as a reference letter acting against him
No.170923
I am free from 4chan!
No.170929
>>170835Still waiting on an archive to be made for here.
No.170930
>>170929Yeah, we're having "hardware" issues
No.170931
>>>170376Epstein meeting with moot is not that damning, he's not the first or last mover and shaker of the world that wanted to buy 4chan. Never forget others like Elon Musk, Notch, Alex Soros and that one Pharma Bro also wanted to buy it at one point.
No.170932
>>170931Honestly Hiroshimoot is preferable to all of those options
No.170933
>>170931moot also joked about selling it to Kim Dotcom but it could've been a thing
No.170992
>>170932What's wrong with Notch?
No.171013
>>170992He was always kind of bad at managing minecraft since the beginning, making endless promises and never delivering (which might be passable if not for the fact that he kept doing this to try and make people pre-order minecraft which makes it a scam), adding really pointless kuso instead and having awful awful sense of integrity, the guy folded to pressure so often. People just don't remember it
So I could easily imagine if he owned 4chan he'd add a bunch of pointless new features or boards (so like Hiroshimoot) and get influenced way too much. Hell current day Notch's "politics" is very clearly a result of influence and pressure folding rather than being his actual beliefs, for the same reasons why I wouldn't want some wingnut like Musk running the site out of concern that he'd start messing with nominally apolitical boards in an attempt to influence the board culture (like yknow /jp/'s) I wouldn't want someone who would likely end up getting pressured and influenced by /pol/ to mold the rest of the site in their image running the show (btw in relation to that I just remembered /pol/ found Musk's namefagging history after that H1B Visa thing
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/tripcode/!SATANZ0Gpo/page/1/ so you can get a good idea of how bad he would have been...)
No.171052
>>170931And he met him in NY anyways. Not at Little St. Baal.
No.171054
>>170910I am absolutely certain he learned of moot from the Time Magazine article in 2009, so no way.
No.171058
>>171013I should put "called Musk slurs" on my resume.
No.171062
>>171013Thanks. I never followed Notch, so I don't even know what he's up to now.
No.171086
>>171013Really lucked out with Hiro (one of moots best decisions tbh)
He just wants to make money and he isn't particularly wanting influence or power like too many Western picks would.
No.171098
>>171013>I just remembered /pol/ found Musk's namefagging history after that H1B Visa thingqrd on what links musk to that trip?
No.171113
>>170933This fat fuck is also not a very good candidate for an owner given his snitchy past in the 90s bbs scene.
No.171132
>>171098When you read "/pol/ found", proof should be the last thing you're expecting.
No.171176
>>171086Politics and outrage baiting still bring in a lot of idiot users, so hardly anything improved.
No.171185
>>171098>qrd on what links musk to that trip?iirc that tripcode posted a twitter screenshot showing admin tools.
No.171186
>>171185>>171013that pic was a troll edit though
No.171254
>>170762>Anything this guy saying have merit?most of it. You can trace half his shitpost on old sage moe. The rita repulsa homage thread he mentions exists.
https://old.sage.moe/b/thread/7652815/#7652815oppresstheweak was his site and he used host kuso there to embed it on 4chan.
From what I found he likely donated a couple hundred to 4chan, got a custom banner for it (thanks marmandy jones) then spent 2005/2006 embedding kuso on /b/.
His biggest confirmed claim to fame is the DSFARGEG stickies. His other unconfirmed claim to fame would be the hal turner fake FBI email.
He just overblows his importance about everything:
>2003: hung out in the RH IRC, was not even a 4mod yet>today: I WAS PART OF THE CODING COLLECTIVE AND SECRET FOUNDER OF 4CHAN. I GOT /l/ CLOSED (but somehow it reopened months later and the "pedophile" censored vagina was still around?)>2006: jumps in the hal turner raid bandwagon and gets scared he may get doxed>today: I INVENTED ANONYMOUS, I GOT CHANOLOGY STARTED. I HAD TO DISSAPPEAR.>2007: makes a suggestions for plausible deniability after the FBI subpoenas the site>today: I WAS 4CHANS OFFICIAL LAWYER I WROTE THE /b/ MOTTO>Seems he was accurate with the epstein stuff 3 months agDo note he mentioned epstein and moot just a day after 4chan first noticed the flight list, which was already out early in october/september.
>nd but this Luigi cosplayer is still wallowing in all of this while simultaneously calling him pathetic and provoking fights againit's a jobless schizo living with his mother after spending who knows how many years homeless, and that 100k followers checkmark twitter is his only source of income. He'll say whatever to get money.
>>170845>not4chan's /l/therefore /l/. not4chan was a sister domain run by saber so moot wouldn't have ads problems. it was even linked on the futachan portal (the ancestor of the current frontpage), you can see it in the otakon 2005 video.
>>170832>the lynchpin being a now vanished blogpost on 4chan itself called "Anatomy-of-a-legal-threat" which certainly existed at one point in time.Isn't the old dev blog archived in full? I have the first posts at least.
>>170845that image is a mystery. No way it was made on in 2006.
It's a modern fullpage dev console screenshot on a modern wide monitor.
That means someone, somewhere, has an archive of saved /l/ threads.
No.171255
>>170919>>170769Here's the most compressed vid he made
https://zencastr.com/z/-XjKQcQjonly thing he doesn't talk here is his moot gossip and how moot didn't like nerds (meaning he didn't like raspberry heaven people) which... appears true? Think the only friends he had from RH was Shut.
>>170856>funny how warosu's CSS was likely based on thispretty sure not4chan wasn't the first one to use the warosu color scheme. iirc the ancestor of photon (that everyone thinks comes from dvach) came from the wakachan federation in 2004. Wouldn't be surprised if the warosu style came from there too.
>>170916no, something awful paywalls anything older than 6 months. it's a kuso site. you can't even use the search function on the archives.
>>170917here's an SA dinosaur going at length about Martin.
https://shows.acast.com/im-from-the-internet-a-podcast-about-somethingawfulcom/episodes/minisode-martin-random-goes-to-washingtonhe was always a liar.
>>170921>>170922Asan said he literally got gaslighted and forced to work for someone he and MR knew and was present when they met
According to that chat they meet in a NYC dinner with moot, a "wilson" and adam poots who's a guy who got rich making an anime inspired tabletop game.
So either "wilson" or Adam Poots have bad history with Asan.
No.171256
>>170916>I can't even access the post that got him permabanned despite being from 2018. Either a dead subforum, or a post awful enough that they completely deleted it.I have archives access on SA and I can't view it either so it must have been moved to some staff-only subforum.
No.171271
>>171255I have an account, so I can browse as far as 10 years ago. I can read his older posts, but the ones leading to the ban are pretty much obliterated.
No.171272
>>171256Last time they did a massive wipeout rather than gassing (moving it to a read only subforum) was with the Trump thread in /gbs/. It was getting close to a faction war between gbs and the c-spam cunts.
No.171454
It's me or a lot of Europeans left 4/jp/?
No.171455
>>171454Well, lot of Europeans made up 4/jp/'s userbase, so it's not that surprising.
No.171456
>>171454Euro here. I left 4chan after the 1th April because it was too depressing to look at and it was time to let go. I'm free now and not going back.
No.171457
>>171454I left it as soon as Kissu was made.
No.171460
>>171454I'm a Euro and I left after the autosage changes.
No.171462
>>171460Which changes were those?
No.171467
>>171462The changes that introduced autosage to any thread older than 14 days.
No.171470
>>171454At least with /v/ and /vr/, I used to say euro hours were the only time of the day it was tolerable and you could have a normal civilised thread. In the moment americans woke up, it would be "norm this" and "norm that" non stop.
Not even that survived. By the end of 2024, you had arseholes and threadshitters 24/7.
>>171455I left the day the cheeto man entered the house again in january 2025. When you see kuso like this, you know it's not gonna get better.
No.171471
>>171470Weird I wonder why everyones talking about those (norms)
Probably not because theyre ruining the world
You should just keep using the internet for escapism, Im sure nothing the (norms) do will ever affect you
No.171480
The only thing I miss from 4chan is the euro-anons that just wanted to enjoy the things a board was meant to be about. So the more here, the merrier, imho.
No.171482
The free associated internet of ideas and culture sharing really does seem to be dwindling down.
Perhaps because it was mainly a product of Liberal Anglo ideals and, frankly, they aren't making any more people like that these days.
No.171483
>>171480And why is this exclusive to euro-anons? Are americans not allowed to enjoy the things a board is meant to be about as well?
I ask this as a European.
No.171484
>>171470>the cheeto man entered the house again in january Who？
No.171485
>>171482I think the problem is the modern culture.
There are people who shoehorn politics into everything and treat internet arguments personally.
Nuance is lost and so is the idea of "people can like different things".
Not to mention that the barrier between reality and internet disappearing certainly didn't help.
No.171487
>>171483The posting culture and style between Americans and Europeans are very different. Most Americans has a hard time taking a joke and suffer from tribalism. Europeans love making jokes and turn incredibly racist the moment you are from a country they hate. There is also the SA and SEA posting culture and style and we don't speak about that.
No.171489
>>171483Ok, maybe I need to clarify. There were certain topics, specially on /vr/, that would only make sense amongst european snond. Little bits of our childhood experiences that were common to all of us regardless of the country, but that americans found alien and felt like an invasion of their space. From famiclones, to the early modchipping scene and the Speccy vs CPC wars. People in GMT+1 mornings were more nicer and closer to the standard Kissu poster.
If the thread survived until the peak american timezones, it turned into:
>Fuck you eurofaggotss, your only rpg was Heroes of Might and Magic>No one cares about you europoors and your fake consoles>You are brown cope harder lol tranni be yourselfAnd lots of aggression at the slightest perceived disagreement. If there were good american anons, they were drowned by they amount of crap ones. The amount of times you could read the collection of /pol/'s favourite slurs in /v/ and to a lesser extent /vr/ multiplied the moment they started posting. Staying in 4chan past the evening would progressively become a miserable experience.
No.171492
>>171487>Europeans love making jokes and turn incredibly racist the moment you are from a country they hateUsually I would answer "that's bullshit", but that's a problem I have with not interacting with people from my own country on internet. After last year I got access to an invite-only national forum... Holy kuso. I never expected to read certain things outside of 4chan. Yet now if feels like half of the americans may take that spot from us.
This is becoming dangerously offtopic and we are going to piss off the mods big time if we keep at it, so this will be my final post on the matter.
One thing to take into account is that most people are not aware of the "bilingual emotional bias". People that have English as a second language will be less emotional when using it. Being an douchebag and using offensive language is a lot easier in the non native language, and the speaker won't usually be aware that it may not feel as trivial and neutral to the other party.
No.171494
My brain is going to explode from the levels of irony from the recent string of posts. Some of you really need to practice some self-reflection.
No.171497
>>171494>levels of irony What are you talking about?
No.171498
>>171491If you think that's bad just look at the trainwreck that is /07/th. 07th expansion is in a frankly terrible place nowadays and most of the discussion on there is either ranting about GouSotsu and how Ryukishi should die or shipping wars with unfully /pol/ memes mixed in
No.171499
>>171498The hell is /07/th?
No.171500
>>171499Thread for 07th expansion, they made the "when they cry" games.
No.171501
>>171498that one is very intentional though, same sorta kuso happened to djt
No.171502
>>171500Oh, the game with the red haired guy that doesn't believe in magic and cry?
I only came to /jp/ to speak about Touhou.
No.171510
>>171498>most of the discussion on there is either ranting about GouSotsuThat's kind of funny, in a way, since that's when all of the horrible generic shitposting started with WTC. It reached a new audience and the demographics of the threads changed.
The bi-yearly threads about it on /v/ back in the 2010s were once some of the most enjoyable and relaxing experiences you could have. Yes, on /v/.
Well, hopefully people know to use other imageboards for it now!
No.171511
>>171454I'm eternally thankful to the poster who mentioned kissu on /jp/ back during the vtuber shitshow, as I was feeling incredibly sad and frustrated at what the mods were doing to the board (or lack thereof). People were calling this place dead back then too but I'm glad I decided to check it out anyway.
>>171498>>171502Looking at 07th Expansion nowadays you'd never think that it used to be protected /jp/ heritage at some point.
No.171513
I still don't know on how the hell I finished on Kissu... But I do remember that there were good Touhou threads in /tg/.
No.171515
>>171511You're right, I'd never think that is used to be.
No.171521
>>171491>there are those who think that ZUN is a hack and fell off, others that praise him; this can quickly devolve into a flamewar, others that just do deliberate trolling, and young retards that take the bait. There are those who pose as NEETs and larp as oldfags by being bitter as fuck and killjoys and attention whores followed by circlejerkers; these often came together. The moment someone tries to be original, he gets crushed by all of the aboveI'm all types of these people
No.171529
>>171471Because they have ruined countless communities and hobbies rather than adapting to them and not come off as insufferable. They bring their modern-day bullshit with them like politics, drama, language, toxicity, etc. The hate is justified.
No.171532
>>171489I'm an American and my first NES console was a famiclone. I really fell in love with these things when I saw all the different designs and variations they had. My uncle ran a toy shop at some time and would give these to me when I was a kid. I've experienced a bunch of consoles from ones looking like the Xbox, the Playstation, the PS3, and some rare educational keyboard of some sort where you could learn a bunch of educational content that's made for kids. Unlike the famicom, these consoles are displayed via composite cables rather than RF cables.
I loved the multi-carts and their hilarious covers but they usually would have the same game repeated multiple times on the list because they're usually just different hacks of the same game. Since famiclones were my first introduction to the NES, I did have fun with all the different games that were on those carts.
Though I have to say that I haven't seen any good famiclones since like 2009-2012 since nobody seems to make or sell unique designs anymore. They all now have HDMI ports in them, are made with the same generic styles to them and don't accept carts anymore.
No.171623
>>171498It all started with the italianon in summer 2019.
The threads were very chill before that. There were great off-topic debates.
No.171625
>>171624desu.si should work for you.
No.171626
>>171625What if I don't want it to expire after 24 hours? Sorry, I should've been more specific.
No.171627
>>171626How long do you need?
No.171628
>>171624Wow I thought they both had HUGE tits from the thumbnail...
No.171630
>>171624I don't mean to sound impatient but I really needed to know ASAP.
No.171631
>>171624If it's an option you could try trimming the filesize in Handbrake or Vidcoder.
No.171632
>>171630Make a mega.nz account then or something. Places that allow people to anonymously upload a gigabyte of data for a long period of time aren't going to be very common and it's probably why catbox has been having so many issues after its constant growth over the years.
No.171633
>>171631What are the best ways of doing that without ruining the quality on Handbrake?
No.171634
>>171630I know that some people use workupload.com.
Haven't used it personally though...
No.171635
>>171633I haven't used Handbrake much so I couldn't tell you, but in Vidcoder there's an option to target a specific file size when re-encoding a video and it will automatically make the adjustments to the bitrate and whatnot. Going from 730MB to 200MB will probably result in a hit to the quality but it might be worth a shot.
No.171638
>>171635Oh just converting the file from an MP4 to a WEBM reduced the size DRASTICALLY so I guess I don't have to worry much about quality...
No.171685
>>171624Thumbnail looks like she has gigantic tits.
No.171716
People say moderation killed the culture on 4chan, for instance on /a/, but the type of threads that were common place on /a/ in the past that would be deleted now are never found on other anime imageboards today, they post just like they're on 4/a/ making a thread dedicated to a character or a series which is functionally a general thread.
No.171719
>>171716the people who say it would have a better case than someone criticizing, but I'd have to ask what they think no longer exists?
I suppose a spirit of creativity and creation... such things can be permanently destroyed because even amoung a population of a million, there are maybe only a 1000 people capable of doing this and if 10 of them are in the same room by coincidence then things can happen.
No.171817
A 4/jp/ anon made a breast expnasion game with Keine. Here's the demo.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3894520/Keines_Expanding_Class/ No.171820
>>171817I saw the store page before, but I wouldn't have guessed it was a 4/jp/ Anon's work.
No.171824
>>171817I have that game wishlisted, I hope they deliver with sensei getting some huge bazongas
No.171956
>>171719>I suppose a spirit of creativity and creation... such things can be permanently destroyed because even amoung a population of a million, there are maybe only a 1000 people capable of doing this and if 10 of them are in the same room by coincidence then things can happen.It's this and drawfag threads siphoning most of the people capable of creating kuso.
No.172097
You now remember that photo of moot fapping.
I wonder if it was supposed to be a blackmail material, he had quite curious reaction the first time it was posted.
No.172098
>>172097>he had quite curious reaction the first time it was postedDo you have a screenshot or something?
I didn't know he knew it was posted.
No.172110
>>172097Not him. Stop digging.
No.172112
>>172098*Of his reaction.
Now I realize how bad the original post sounded.
No.172120
>>172097reaction is fake iirc
photo guy is also not, moot is a lanklet while he's properly built, and he has a bifid nasal tip that moot lacks
No.172163
>>172098Probably no. Even if I have it. It's buried under bazillion of other pictures with no unique filename.
No.172215
>>171814Damn, rip.
And of course it's cancer.
No.172216
Small bit of news. moot commenting about meeting Epstein.
https://www.theverge.com/tech/879132/moot-4chan-jeffrey-epstein-meeting-pol>Epstein had nothing to do with the reintroduction of a politics board to 4chan, nor anything else related to the site. The decision to add the board was made weeks beforehand, and the board was added almost 24 hours prior to a first, chance encounter at a social event. His assistant reached out to me afterward, and I met with him one time for an unmemorable lunch meeting. This happened at a time when I was meeting hundreds of people a month while speaking and networking at tech events.>I did not meet him again nor maintain contact. I regret having ever encountered him at all, and have deep sympathy for all of his victims. No.172269
I recently went on /wsr/ after almost a decade and it got me thinking about how that board used to have its own weird culture when it was originally made: "Nicofag, "Took a while but thanks", the akari.png edits, even the board-tan stuff (board-tan stuff kinda died with the Shimmie though, but at least /wsr/'s board-tan lives on through the banner).
No.172275
>>172269Do people actually lurk there in hopes of helping people?
No.172289
>>172275I started fulfilling requests to "pay off" the ones I made and then got hooked for a couple of years. It made me a lot better at photo editing and taught me many useful sites and tools to find kuso on the internet.
It was fun, can't be arsed to spend my free time on that (nor the rest of 4chan) anymore though.
also Wasure a cute.
No.172290
>>172275Doing requests is sort of addicting
I've only done like half a dozen in the past but I I think I did them all in the span of two days
Wouldn't be surprised if most of the requests done on /wsr/ are fulfilled by the same couple of autists stuck in a habit of doing it
No.172291
>>172275I don't browse /wsr/ but doing requests is really fun, sometimes anons can some up with really creative things that I can't wait to start working on. Plus it's nice to see their reactions when you deliver.
No.172292
>>172291What kind of requests have you been doing?
No.172293
>>172216Interesting development
No.172294
>>172216im more inclined to not believe this than to believe it
No.172296
>>172295I think you guys are the only ones who do requests at all on 4/jp/.
No.172297
>>172216Isn't this the first time m00t has ever talked about 4chan ever since he left?
No.172305
>>172296Not really, AI does make it easy for us to do lots of requests so it's kind of to be expected that we're able to do more, but just now there were a bunch of people drawing requests on the OC thread.
No.172313
>>172312unblock ads to get the spur.us "i'm not on a VPN" token.
if you have any other privacy measures, you'll have to disable them.
No.172315
>>172215There was a thread going on /jp/ but of course janny deleted it right after the resident avatarfag appeared.
No.172318
>>172312I was going to ask questions on /g/ for opinions on discord alternatives but looks like even 4chan is fucked beyond repair.
No.172319
>>172275>>172290I like filling requests on pirate websites. At least I know someone really wants something I share.
No.172322
>>172318¥Open SourceXMPP
Matrix
Mumble/IRC
¥Closed sourceTeamspeak (rumored compatibility with Matrix, haven't looked into it)
Signal
Telegram (open source
clients but no self hosting)
>>172312Datamining stuff, blame the proxypedos.
No.172325
>>172320From what I read, its UK hosted, which will likely be a major problem if they fully crackdown on the host there.
>>172322I don't know anything about xmpp so will need info on it. Matrix I have as element and it seems good but I worry about the limits and how I can invite people to it. I haven't used mumble in a decade but will try, otherwise I have irc for rizon. Teamspeak I don't know and feel like they would eventually comply. Never looked into signal. Telegram I do have but it requires a phone number which will be tough for some to consider but it does have nice features for free.
No.172326
>>172312add @@||*.mcl.io/r/mcl.js*=$script,domain
=sys.4chan.org under My Filters on Ublock Origin
No.172335
>>172327
So its a protocol, I assume its independently hosted. If I can find a good host and lets me just host my chat/voice rooms and artwork there, I would be interested in using it
No.172337
>>172327
you should probably go back to /pol/ then, random slurs aren't doing you any favors around here
No.172340
>>172337...I was quoting someone.
>>172335Here's a list of providers
https://providers.xmpp.net/ No.172341
fuck I bumped this thread by mistake
No.172374
>>172312great even more data collection and the kuso quality and spam remains the same. i dont know if im getting older and losing patience more quickly or if its just really time to abandon imageboards altogether.
>>172313do i only need to allow it once to get the token permanently?
its a such drag having to grant special permissions and keep storage just to post on an fucking anonymous imageboard.
>>172322are there any open source telegram clients that allow preview of content without needing an account? sometimes the preview button in the browser doesnt work and sometimes it does, id like to know if the preview is more stable on a dedicated client.
No.172377
>>172374>do i only need to allow it once to get the token permanently?once, and you'll likely retain it as long as the session doens't expire
it could be that it asks you to do it again if you change IPs, but don't quote me on this yet
Also, I'm not sure what triggers 4chan to demand you let them make the spur us token, because it isn't just having adblock on.
I think it's botscore based (the fingerprint thingie 4chan uses to estimate whether you are a bot farm device)
So spur us is only being implemented partially and I think linux users are getting the bulk of all requests
No.172380
>>172377alright i got my cutietoken, lets see how long it will last. you might be right, because i could post normally with adblock using the easy captcha, but after i cleared my data, it asked for the token. its such a drag to do anything in the internets even with minimal privacy and security these days.
No.172382
>>172380>its such a drag to do anything in the internets even with minimal privacy and security these days.Go complain to the homosexual black pedophile furry spending thousands every month to let people spam csam.
No.172389
>legitpost and effortpost on the 4 behind proxy
>post deleted minutes later
>shitpost and derail threads behind proxy
>post still up a week later
Makes it clear moderation wants to keep the site in a flow garbage state.
No.172398
This is like the second false VPN ban I got in two months and the offending post was me discussing spur.us.
No.172399
>>172398>spur.usI just noticed it was the reason I couldn't post because my adblocker blocks it.
Normally I could even understand wanting to curb shitposting via proxies, but they sure as fuck aren't actually planning to fix any issues with that kuso website.
No.172400
4chan is killing itself? Again?
No.172401
if removing bots is killing yourself then i don't want to be alive
No.172404
>>172402¥40k dollars a yearDo they even have that kind of cash?
No.172407
>>172402Impressive work, they finally won. No way in hell they can keep up 40k a year, though. I'm surprised they could even drop it once. So I'm guessing they just hope a year off will dissuade them from coming back.
It won't, but best of luck to them all the same.
No.172408
>>172402https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PJBqlnKC28As if I'll donate a single buck for this! + furry.
>>172404That's kind of suspicious indeed. But Hiro have pretty deep pockets, but will he spend that much on 4chan? That is a mystery.
No.172409
yeah... Hiro has ads for his job search website on the trains in Tokyo. I think he can afford to bankroll that if he wants to. But I imagine it's paid for by whatever income streams 4chan has
No.172411
>>172402Adding to this, I heavily doubt that they purchased the most expensive package, the $14k/year version easily covers the traffic of 4chan due to how they use it right now.
This isn't even considering the notion that they could've worked something out with spur.
$40k a year is peanuts compared to what they spend on cloudflare though, I think everyone here is really underestimating how much money 4chan already makes and how much of it they already burn.
No.172416
>>172399>but they sure as fuck aren't actually planning to fix any issues with that kuso website.Best way to start is to not hand out bullshit bans for talking about methods to stop proxies, maybe.
No.172418
>>172289I miss board tans so much
No.172419
>>172417Chance is they might run it just for a while to catch most of cp spammers (assuming it's what they're doing, if to believe some posts on desuarchive) which is a reason they also censor any mention of it to not alarm the spammers.
But I'm being optimistic here.
No.172420
>>172312Is there a way to post on 4chan now without compromising my privacy? I already have to disable Mullvad every time to post there, all I want is to do is just converse with people normally on niche topics and meanwhile every other cunt that posts depraved and fucked up content is unpunished while ordinary anons are punished.
It's a shame too because there was a rare good thread I wanted to post in and genuinely contribute to the conversation.
No.172421
>>172398Yeah I got hit with a 30 day for mentioning spur too.
Apparently Desuwa coded an automod just to kill any mention of the service, and RA had to spank his ass.
>>172402GET FUCKED FURFAG
No.172424
>>172420>people normally on niche topics and meanwhile every other cunt that posts depraved and fucked up content is unpunished while ordinary anons are punished. translation: i post loli on non loli boards
No.172425
>>172419The spammers knew of spur since november 2025. The dire furfag himself brought it up in 4/hap/, he's very attached to that thread. He brought it up because it killed the bot fleet he ran to age IPs for the proxy site.
One or two proxy site regulars is also a kissu poster so he'll likely try to gaslight about censorship or kvetch that "legitposters get banned while shitposters don't". They are really defensive about their site.
>hich is a reason they also censor any mention of it to not alarm the spammers.I 100% believe desuwa fucked up with an automod.
No.172426
>>172424good, loli should be posted everywhere
No.172427
>>172424Nah, I like older women and the last time I got banned was for an off-topic argument years ago on /v/ I think (justifiably so, I got too easily angered by bait and started bickering).
It's just I like keeping my online life separate from my irl life. Simple as, and I don't trust any company or private entity with that information, I trust governments more with that information than any private entity that I don't know who will gladly sell my personal information to be used by some scumbag for identity theft.
Hell the thread I wanted to post in was to counter-argue some BJJ anons on the Judo general in /xs/. I am an amateur martial artist and regrettably no altchan has that kind of board or discussion as much as I'd love for that, and even if it did, I don't think the userbase from /xs/ would migrate there yet, martial arts is just too niche of a subject aside from MMA (which even then, talking about Japanese MMA is just as niche as well, same with puroresu)
No.172428
At risk of sounding retarded Ill still ask,
Whats spur?
No.172429
>>172427>It's just I like keeping my online life separate from my irl life. I pressume you have a problem with cloudflare and 4chan's google analytics
AFAIK they operate such a retarded volume of information they abstract everything and don't really keep logs. Have you ever heard of cloudflare getting a subpoena?
No.172430
>>172428seems like a service which collects proxy/vpn IPs and does some checks to see if the requests come from places that look like datacenters
No.172431
>>172427Older women are the best!
There is a sport board and some martial arts generals in Ylilauta. Another than that, there is nothing for sportsfags like me or even something related to AutoMotoculture.
No.172432
>>172429But my issue is that this new spur.us and mcl.io stuff logs your personal information? Or is that just fearmongering from other people trying to spread misinformation?
Worth noting, I am fairly tech illiterate when it comes to networking, so I could be very misinformed.
>>172431>Older women are the best!Amen.
>There is a sport board and some martial arts generals in Ylilauta.Oh kuso, thanks anon. I'll check that place out, never heard of it.
No.172433
>>172432>Oh kusoAh my mind slipped about the filters here, ah well.
No.172434
does spur only effect posters or are they tracking lurkers too?
No.172435
>>172427I made a mistake of giving my phone number to Twitter years ago and I have been paranoid about it for a while now. I'm not even sure if I can log in into account because I pretty much used it for like few days to browse stuff.
No.172437
>>172432It's the biggest Finnish imageboard. Imageboard culture is still pretty strong in Finland. But outside of them, nobody speak about pro-wrestling, motoculture, sports in general. The posting culture is different and you need an aged account to post on most boards... I'm still mad at this, like when Hiro broke /asp/ in half.
No.172438
>>172402Finally, fuck hoffman and all people like him.
>help the causeDidn't know being a pedophile shitbag was a "cause".
>>172404Doubt it.
>>172374>are there any open source telegram clients that allow preview of content without needing an account?Sorry for the late reply but I'm not sure if that exists atm.
>>172434Only posters I think
>>172428>>172432>>172436Spur is a fingerprinting service that logs IP and browser canvas data.
No.172439
>>172438its fine, but oh well, i hope someone adds this or that telegram fixes it. its always a pain when i want to see something and have to gamble on the kuso preview working or not.
No.172440
>>172428So you know Mysterium, Tuxler, Hola?
Those are VPNs. They come from datacenters that buy IP blocks and rent them to end users so they can evader blocks on other services. Legitimate or illegitimate, they don't care.
Thing is, reverse engineering IP blocks is easy. All traditional VPNs are blocked on 4chan and many other services.
Big corpos (facebook, twitter, reddit, discord, roblox) usually don't bother blocking VPNs because their problems come from bot farms - thousands of computers hooked to a common-ass ISP
But 4chan blocks all VPNs they discover and so do other websites.
This is when residential VPNs come in play. They are literal VPN botnets, who through apps like Tuxler (owned by Israeli company Brightdata formerly Luminati) and more obscure installable services, they grab an end user's IP and borrow it for usage in another service.
The IP pools these guys manage are massive. We talking high million to low 10 million. It's impossible to block or manage by traditional means.
Therefore its easy to block VPNs. It's impossible to block residential VPNs. You have to block real ISPs to achieve that.
The only way you can block them is by attacking the resVPN end user directly, through aggressive fingerprinting of browser and OS settings, down to figuring out kuso like whether or not a device's clock is out of sync with your device.
(By the way if you have Tuxler you are part of a botnet and liable to get swatted because Brightdata sold your IP to some schizo 5000 kms away used it tp groom kids on Kik. Uninstall that kuso ASAP.)
There's also "professional" residential VPNs that sell an extremely limited and curated pool of IPs that they personally take care of spoofing, those cost an arm and a leg and have a 3 to 4 digits IP pool.
Brightdata, IPRoyal, Oxylabs and others are all residential VPNs.
Now, Spur us is a very high skill company that basically acts a client to every resiVPN that goes public, and some that are private. They research and log their IP pools and run heuristics for clients in order to identify resVPNs. They even have a analytics tool for clients called Monocle.
Spur is very new and relatively obscure. They likely lack the infrastructure to be adopted by big companies - if they ever care enough to tackle resVPNs instead of the bot farm cancer (and there's really nothing stopping Spur from tackling bot farms either)
4chan and KF may be their big breakout - stopping a pedophilia proliferation network is certainly a headliner story.
I wouldn't be surprised if they become the new unicorn cybsec company this decade.
No.172441
>>172374You have to create an account through an official telegram client before you can use a open client, I had to do that for forkgram
No.172442
>>172437>>172431>Imageboard culture is still pretty strong in Finland.Isn't ilylauta basically social media at this point, or posts are still anonymous?
>>172432>But my issue is that this new spur.us and mcl.io stuff logs your personal information?Not all. They study your IP and figure our if it exists in their resVPN database
If you IP is from a Turkish owned IP block and suddenly a Vietnamese server is using it to connect they are going to notice and flag your connection.
They also integrated with 4chan to track session cookies. So if a session was originally created in France and suddenly a Canadian IP is using it, and the browser+os fingerprint matches, spur flags
That also means that Spur.us and 4chan 100% have an enterprise-level custom agreement.
The tl;dr spurs doesn't log anything but where you connection comes from and has no way if identifying who's the person behind the posts. There's no "personal information" to log, only IP and a fingerprint (which is merely your browser+OS settings that are likely not unique to you unless you riced up your brower and/or OS)
No.172444
>>172440¥Israeli company stopping another Israeli companyI don't really see it happening. It's more possible they will end up colluding.
No.172446
>>172442Ylilauta is still anonymous. However you need an account over 6 hours old to post and a gold account to see the porn and "erotic chatrooms" alongside homo stuff. Also, I advice to not post anime content outside the boards designed for. They're pretty hostile to it and can get you a ban if a gold poster want you banned.
No.172447
>>172443A lot of people are leaving 4chan. You can see it on certain boards.
No.172449
>>172447Where are people even going? I could see Kissu attracting a lot of people from /jp/ and even /a/, but what about the other boards? I can't imagine anyone using the Sharty for anything other than spam, you can't have serious discussions there. And 8moe is pretty much a zombie, it's alive but also dead because no one uses it.
No.172450
>>172449nowhere.
every expat community has a group of contrarians who repeat 4chan is dying every thread and make vague comments about people leaving.
They are just mad they get banned for being genuinely too stupid to read the room and not banned.
Not saying we aren't slowing down, but we are not losing the everday regulars you see here or in other meta threads - we are losing casuals.
Even the current captcha punishes infrequent posters - infrequent enough to have their session cookies expire - and gives the easiest captcha in the history of the site to every day posters.
No.172451
But maybe with the proxy site out of the way, they may ease up on it.
If this spur thing is truly a new paradigm, there's potential to open many doors-
No.172452
>>172449They either go to another forums but in their home country, leave imageboards and go to something else
probably R*ddit, like mainstream social medias, discord/matrix. One thing is sure, is that kuso hit the fan. Casuals just leave without tipping and those who don't have a hard enough Stockholm syndrome leave. Only die-hard posters stay or those who have a specific community that isn't available outside 4chan.
And no, no one goes to the Sharty because that website is a mess.
No.172456
>>172437Is there an English-speaking community? Or Finns-only?
>>172442>Not all. They study your IP and figure our if it exists in their resVPN databaseHmm, then I suppose it's not much of an issue, especially if it's to ban all the malicious bots.
I was a little jumpy considering how every site seemed to have jumped into the data harvesting bandwagon as much as possible. Glad to hear that's not the case.
No.172460
>>172425>he'll likely try to gaslight about censorship or kvetch that "legitposters get banned while shitposters don't".i saw this on 4chan plenty of times already, haha
No.172461
>>172449Probably mastodon instances, other imageboards, or kiwifarms.
¥8moe is deadPeople went there nonetheless, things can change very quickly when kuso hits the fan.
No.172463
>>172440I see. It makes sense that they sign up to every vpn they can. That's probably the only way to tackle the issue from an IP level when ASN aren't reliable.
>>172444It could be one of those cases where the drug dealer is selling tips to the cops about his clients.
No.172464
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>>172449¥Where are people goi-Twitter
The answer is twitter
Most of the current 4cutie userbase is already from twitter, so to twitter they shall return. Dust to dust, mud to mud, or mud to a sort of hand-shaped container or vase of some kind. Like poetry but in a 3d physical form.
No.172465
Some guy from 4chan wound up working for the website formerly known as Twitter. Very schizo guy, perfect fit for elmo musk. Mentioned the captcha being the reason he gave up on it
No.172469
>>172446>Ylilauta is still anonymous. However you need an accountI don't get why nobody tried to adapt such "anonymous but with registration" model in the west, not necessarily with an imageboard but with a reddit/twitter clone.
No.172474
>>172450>>172452>>172464They absolutely do go to twitter, you can post the same kind of obnoxious kuso like soyjaks and /pol/kuso there all day long.
>>172460In my opinion, shitposters on legit dynamic IP ranges are here to stay because they never used proxies to begin with.
No.172475
>>172421I got a similar 3 day ban (I appealed it and got it removed) for talking about the spyware in the other happenings thread. These bans are 100% made by the mods since the post that got me banned didn't even mention the name of the service.
No.172483
>>172474>In my opinion, shitposters on legit dynamic IP ranges are here to stay because they never used proxies to begin with.Bans on 4chan are more or less just warnings if you've got a dynamic IP. You never needed the proxy unless you were retarded and/or doing something illegal.
No.172487
>>172456Finnish only. But there is an international board.
>>172469I dunno... But I don't welcomed the account changes, very well. But most of Ylilauta's history are just a giant path of fire.
No.172498
>>172425I do not have to gaslight though. Anyone can search for deleted posts on the archives and compared that to the current state of 4chan. That is public proof. I am not going to bring receipts. I still have working residential proxies and spur has not deterred me one bit aside from a slight script modification. Otherwise things are smooth sailing just as before.
No.172499
My residential IP, that I rarely bother posting from on 4chan anymore, was banned on the 19th and I just now learned it.
Can I assume this is something Spur related?
No.172500
>>172499not without reasonable doubt
No.172501
Of course I forgot to write that the ban explicitly mentioned VPN as the reason. The first ever getting such a ban.
No.172504
>>172487From what I understand, ylilauta's problem is that it gradually became a commercial website and the original owner basically lost control of the site while still doing dev work for people who bought it. At the very beginning it ran on a regular imageboard engine after all.
What I meant is why nobody tried to make a social media startup except where you are anonymous to other users.
No.172506
>>172499yes. try this:
https://synthient.com/If it appears flagger as "residential proxy", you IP block / provider has been thoroughly compromised.
Go appeal on IRC or the appeal form, moderation is already aware of false positives.
Wish they made an announcement tho'. RapeApe does not understand invisible moderation
or hiro forbid him from using global announcements.
No.172507
>>172498Sorry but saying that then incriminating yourself as someone who uses resproxies reduces your statement to "coping"
You need tech to exist on an anonymous hobby board. That alone discredits you.