No.123355
I do not understand the space argument when you can just delete after watching.
If you want to archive something, that means it's not just some "average" show that you don't really enjoy. Otherwise, the space argument goes out of the window. But if you do decide to archive a show that you really enjoy, you should be going for highest quality anyway.
So either way, as far as I can see, the space argument collapses under its own weight.
I don't need the highest possible quality for watching. For seasonal stuff, I usually go with automated rips, because these satisfy a criterion that is actually important to me: reliable releases.
I sometimes make an exception for uncensored versions or releases from groups that I trust.
For anything not-seasonal, there is no reason ever to not pic the highest quality (as far as your senses can tell). That said, I have sometimes downloaded shows in segments because I could not be bothered to put the entirety of the dozens (or hundreds) of gigs onto my drive at once.
No.123357
>>123355>If you want to archive something, that means it's not just some "average" show that you don't really enjoy.Not really. I archive kuso shows I didn't like both for the purposes of seeding alongside just wanting to archive them. I enjoy having a personal collection, even if it's not entirely made up of stuff I personally enjoy.
No.123358
>>123355Some people are on metered connections/capped and the ISP throttles them for using too much bandwidth. Other times, it's horribly slow connections for those living in the hinterlands. Nobody wants to sit there forever waiting on huge filesize downloads.
As for saving stuff, I keep what I watch. Nothing gets deleted since I share the collection with family and it turns into a local Netflix-type thing with Jellyfin.
If I delete everything and watch to re-watch the same release, only for it to disappear due to either no seeders or it's been taken off the XDCC bots then it's not so easy to find again for that favored release.
No.123360
For newer stuff, I don't really care. I just stick with SubsPlease. It's all pretty much the same anyways. Older stuff is really what the differences lie because there can be genuine differences between 480i NTSC and 576i PAL releases, DVD vs Bluray upscale, LD vs VHS, etc. Those warrant more investigation, and really are a case-by-case type thing that I don't think you can give a simple answer to.
No.123361
>>123360Agreed, new stuff is pretty much the same. SubsPlease and call it a day.
When trawling older releases, that's where the actual investigation and comparison matters.
Such as seeing BD rips where the disc itself is just a upscale and there's no point to grabbing that both quality- and size-wise, or where the encoder was a little too trigger happy with video filters on an old DVD release, etc.
No.123362
>>123352Nyaa comments tend to be really abrasive I've noticed, especially over what seems (to me) like pretty minor stuff. I can understand being passionate about it, but a lot of the users seem to fail to understand different releases exist for different people, 十人十色 and all.
But yeah, outside of the more obvious stuff I usually can't notice a difference unless I get close to the monitor. Aliasing and banding I do notice, but all the decent releases usually fix those to an extent.
No.123385
I always go for a high bitrate since I have a fairly large sized screen and a really bit-starved release sticks out a LOT when I fullscreen it. Also I tend to look for good audio quality if not lossless since bad audio is a cancer on the ears. Then, normally on older stuff, I check to see whether the BD release or DVD release is the best. Since sometimes you'll get a better quality on the DVD since the BD is retarded and just a smeared upscale (lots of sailor moon ones)
Aside from that I try to avoid the dolby vision whenever possible.
No.123388
>>123357If your purpose is ensuring a show is available to other people, that's all the more reason to pick a quality release. It's retarded to have 50 webrip seeders when there's a BD fansub with only 5.
I'll use SP for reliability unless they do something stupid with the translation like dropping honorifics, but I never keep those files past the season they air in.
>>123362There is an aspect of the cartel hazing people, but there's also a lot of shit getting thrown around that doesn't need to be there. Outside of filtering out reencodes, there isn't really a way to sort through things meant for you and things meant for some theoretical audience with an bizarre usecase. There's nothing more frustrating than putting effort into making something of high quality only to have a bunch of blind retards go after an objectively worse release because it's 100mbs smaller or has a green highlight.
No.123391
>>123388I do seed quality releases, just not always the best possible for reasons already given. I don't think I'm seeding a single TV or webrip actually, outside of series that haven't had a decent BDrip or whatever posted yet. From my experience
most of the best releases have plenty of seeds already anyhow, like Okay-Sub's 100GB Fate/Zero release or hchcsen's Gundam remuxes. I personally don't have a need for those releases, but I do still seed quality alternatives for the series I do archive so that those with desires similar to mine can still reliably get them.
And yeah, there's a lot of useful feedback given on Nyaa too and it's helped me avoid awful releases several times, though I was mainly referring to stuff like
https://nyaa.si/view/1800560 where the first commenter seems incapable of understanding that not everybody wants a large release. Notice how he didn't provide any meaningful feedback other than whining about the size?
No.123412
>>123387Oh, that makes sense then. Yeah, I saw okay-subs and got them for episode 2. I'm not sure if it's better since I'd need an equivalent scene, but it probably is.
As someone mentioned earlier I'll be deleting it after the season ends, anyway. I tend to take lots of screenshots and if I feel nostalgic I can just look at them... or something like that.
No.123414
>>123413Most people dont care about bloat or kludges if it works
No.123418
>>123413I generally agree with you, but it depends on the scene and your eyes. For example:
ASW:
https://i.slow.pics/KB0ANuqn.pnghttps://i.slow.pics/Ziwob76G.pngSubsPlease:
https://i.slow.pics/6LA9ZPcp.pnghttps://i.slow.pics/0rEqfml3.pngGranted these are cherrypicked, but during busy scenes noise is far more common in ASW releases and if you're watching on a display where that needs to be upscaled it's going to be even more noticeable. Though with non-mini encode stuff like Coalgirls vs. the next best, it's significantly less noticeable for most.
No.123469
>>123413>>123416You are way behind the times, man.
Normalization does not matter. The product that you are discussing is an automated release, a direct rip from a source that is for a completely different audience (paying customers).
Around 2010, fansubbers still pretended to be relevant by putting their own spins on the official releases. Nowadays, everybody knows that they are a marginal existence next to the official versions.
Fansubbers today exist largely to address whatever gaps open up, and that's a thankless job.
That's why whatever technical skills or standards were common back then are now mostly forgotten.
CR streams in large file sizes because that's the simplest way and is good for the greatest variety of toasters, even if it costs them bandwidth. You can boycott subsplease or complain about it on an anonymous image board. But that's not going to impress the CR leadership.
No.123475
Smallest size with watchable quality
Usually just torrent Judas releases
No.123485
>>123469I know it's ripped directly from CR (that's why it always comes first).
>The only reason to download the SubsPlease release over ASW is that SubsPlease comes out firstI sometimes download the SubsPlease release based on this if I want to watch something as soon as it comes out.
CR however, was made to be streamed, not downloaded. Otherwise you're killing your poor SSD/HDD with those huge ass file size (specially SSD, don't complain if it stops working after a few years of doing that).
No.123486
>>123485The point being that it's pointless to complain about people normalizing it.
No.123487
>>123486I feel like this will cause everyone to abandon torrents and just watch streams instead (already happened to some extent, nyaa used to be more popular).
Random comments I found there about this.
No.123495
>>123487>abandon torrents and just watch streams instead (already happened to some extentI believe that future to be inevitable to some degree. Anime being one of the few holdouts with a lot of people still downloading properly and using real players, contrasting western television that is almost exclusively watched on stream. I don't think that newcomers to anime will ever see a single reason to acquaint themselves with the tools that we use.
No.123520
echoing what was already said releases literally do not matter anymore since they're all just streaming site rips and fansubs have been dead for ages
the only thing i watch out is for hidive rips, as already mentioned in this thread they're bit starved garbage and they're immediately noticeable especially if you take screenshots, and what i usually try to get then is amazon rips, i dunno how licensing works but for some reason things tend to be available there when they're not on CR
>>123485>Otherwise you're killing your poor SSD/HDDmodern ssds have vastly better endurance than when the first drives started hitting the market
i don't really think that was even an issue for those, but for the average 1 TB ssd drive nowadays you'd have to overwrite the entire drive every day for more than a year... on that account it's really a non issue