No.100569[Last50 Posts]
Server isn't up
We're fast-approaching the time of year where plenty of people are available, and there's a lull in media content to keep people entertained. So, I was thinking it'd be a great time to start up a Factorio server and play with Kissu! The plan is to play on a really big modpack known as Space Exploration which should ensure the server lasts a
long while, and also that every person can be helpful even if they're new and it's late into the game. You see, this particular Factorio modpack revamps and expands Factorio beyond the typical endgame where you need to build a rocket out of the world, to where you will now need to escape the entire stellar cluster! Utilizing multiple planets and a space base in the process to reach this goal, Space Exploration forces the players to learn every aspect of it to keep their factory properly running. Especially with the added feature of bot decay which really changes the dynamic of the late game.
With all that said, I think it'd be good to get a head start and begin to discuss things related to Factorio related to optimizing Factories, or maybe even teaching new players/people that want to test things out how it all works. There's a lot to learn about the game and it can make it feel a bit daunting to new people at the start, so if you want to try starting up a world and seeing what makes sense and what doesn't initially I highly recommend it! Also remember that the server will be a group effort so there's no need to worry if you're not particularly good at one aspect since others should be able to help out as well!
I'll be available in the steam chat (
https://s.team/chat/NUIbnP7U ) to give anyone who may want to try out the game a copy, or you can pirate it and download the mods yourself if you so wish to do so. I plan on actually opening up the server sometime a little after Christmas, so there should be plenty of time to talk in here before then.
No.100573
don't know when christmas is but i'm in
No.100575
>>100570It is fairly complex, I won't deny that. But, in comparison to the endgame it starts off quite simple and easy to pick up. Early on you just need to follow a setup similar to what I have laid out in this image so that you can get your factory up and started (I recommend if you want to test it out yourself doing so in peaceful mode). First things to prioritize should be the iron miners first so you can more easily make a larger quantity of miners (a miner on stone would probably help this too), once you get enough materials to make ~4, then you go to the coal and construct the ring like I have in pic related. Next off you get the copper and then once you're in a comfortable spot you can start to make electricity to power your base.
First off you make some water pumps and pipes to extract water from a nearby lake/ocean, and then once that's done you make boilers and attach ~2 steam engines to each for maximum efficiency. 4 boilers should be a good starting point. Then once you've stockpiled a bit of wood and copper you can start to make electricity poles to transfer the electricity you're making from your generator, you can begin to make electric tools like electric mining drills that mine resources without as much pollution
No.100583
>>100575Something to be noted about this screenshot that I didn't mention was the mini defense system I built, because I caused a bit too much pollution and nearby biters were sending raids into my factory. If you're not playing on a peaceful world for your first test (which you should), you may want to be wary of how close the biter nests are to you and if there's any forests separating them from your factory. Since biters are attracted to and grow from pollution, it's a nice thing to have some trees nearby that'll somewhat block the pollution from enraging the biters. But if you're in a less forested area, one of the main things you're going to want to focus on from the start is getting defenses set up and an ammo supply chain going to fill your turrets with ammo automatically. It's important to focus on this first in a "death world" like I was playing on since the biters will waste no time in forming groups to attack around once you've started up lab production.
No.100585
>>100570In some sense there's an element of beauty to making the most efficient and clean factory. While aesthetics may not be the primary end goal, restructuring/pre-planning bases to remove clutter or promote organization is actually quite helpful in the long term.
I can't tell you how many times I've played this and ended up with a giant mess at the end which I can only patch up messily with additions to create the next step of materials I need to construct.
No.100642
>>100575I think that seems too... functional for me. Can I go around shooting aliens instead? As in, can I just focus on doing that and building turrets or something? Resource management is.... eehhhhhhhhhh. I'd have more fun arranging rocks.
I could enjoy watching you guys do things, I guess, so post updates or stream stuff here or something?
No.101284
>>101282Is it possible to join and just watch passively or does the difficulty scale somehow?
No.101285
>>101284Nope, the difficulty doesn't scale at all with more players. Which makes multiplayer nicer since more people is just a net positive.
No.101499
I'll be starting up the server tomorrow evening!
No.101546
IT'S UP
No.101556
So I had the server running on a laptop, and for some reason even though it's set to 'Never Sleep', it still slept and paused the server. Which is just what I'd expect from a great software such as Windows 11. This time, I'll put it on a PC and start the server so that it doesn't run into this issue again. Should be permanently up for people to play once it's up again.
No.101652
>>101638A good strategy going forwards is probably going to be deigning one or two people master of rails, and then having hubs for each main resource.
No.101713
too many people are upset with what other people make so other come around and try to remake things or do it in a way that appeals to them. In the end there's no resource flow or anything.
There's no regard for progress. Just people trying to be bosses.
I want people to be banned for being non cooperative and causing trouble due to their own unrecognized mental illnesses.
No.101714
it's a video game...
No.101720
>>101713>due to their own unrecognized mental illnesses.I think kissu users recognize their mental illness...
No.101742
>>101713Chaos! Fight! War! Guts and glory!!
No.101750
>>101745Love my /qa/ train
No.101793
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pretty nice recipe for furnaces
No.101797
There was an issue with the save size going up to 250MB, so I did some trimming and managed to reduce it down to 40MB, the culprit seems to be scanning entire worlds, so I'd recommend against ever pressing the button again.
No.101889
I really want to play this game, but it looks like something I'd enjoy so much that it'd suck up all of my free time for months to come...
No.101890
>>101889Just let it, it's fun....
Also circuitry tools (basic ones) are now automated.
No.101892
>>101889yeah it does. You shouldn't unless you're fine with wasting about 40 hours this week and maybe next
No.101893
>>101889When I first got the game I played it for 18 hours straight. No breaks at all. I didn't even realize how long it had been until I looked at my phone. It's super addicting.
No.101907
>>101903>>101905This kind of stuff is so cool, reminds me of how amazing it is that we can fit these functionalities onto tiny little computer chips.
No.101908
>>101907https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=37490Here's a more in-depth breakdown someone made of how they made some video player in-game. And yeah, it really is crazy how much you can do with the small chips we have.
No.101911
Apparently there's some secret victory involving pyramids on planets. So we should probably make a note of each planet we find in this thread that has them. So far I know that Adul and Orion have one.
No.102580
>>102574Can you upload a folder of the mods? I'm not comfortable connecting to their servers to make an account on a pirated copy.
Or record a tour of the bases or something?
No.102581
>>102580Ohhh yeah oops, completely forgot to keep the folder in the OP up to date with what the server's currently using. I added a link to another zip that has all the additional mod files we're using on the server, so just shove those files into the existing mod folder and you should be good to join.
No.102900
nerd gaming time
No.113631
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-373There may be hope for kissu's space adventure's yet. An expansion for factorio is in the works and kovarex is collaborating with the maker of the Space Exploration mod to make it.
Some key notes that kissu should take into account
¥Game Length: Space Exploration is a long-form adventure designed for players to gradually uncover many interconnected challenges over 150-500 hours (or more). Space Age challenges are more streamlined and self-contained for a faster pace of 60-100 hours (rough estimate).¥Space Age has a lot of different challenges but they never get too extreme and the usage of combinators is quite lightweight, so we expect that most players will be able to complete it.So the expansion will be essentially a more simple version of space exploration baked into the vanilla game. Hopefully meaning that we don't get stuck like we did trying to play the later parts of SE that just became a complicated drag that would require us to rebuild entire bases to fix.
Also worthy of note is this
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-375, when we do Space Age I don't want a SINGLE structure that isn't legendary quality.
No.113632
ALSO
¥Examples of things that will be in the 2.0 update are: the ability to control train systems better, better blueprint building, better flying robot behaviour and many more. It will all be covered in more details in future FFFsThe smarter robots were already elaborated on in
https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-374 so I can't wait to see what they have in store for trains because I wanted to tear my hair out sometimes trying to fix them.
No.113633
>>113632>the ability to control train systems betterNeat.
>I wanted to tear my hair out sometimes trying to fix them.A lot of the issues comes from running multiple trainsets that of differing lengths. One of the bigger issues is with distance between signals. If a backup exists up to a signal station, eventually a train will get stuck in an intersection depending on how the intersection signals are configured.
No.114146
>>114145Yeah it's lovely, and looking at what else they were talking about with the improved signal placement makes me extremely excited to get back into the game once this expansion comes out. It's going to save so much headache-inducing brute forcing of railroads...
Man... this'll make it possible to have parallel train lines running as well... I hope the expansion comes out sometime next year.
No.115408
>>115407Holy... Flying junctions :o
No.115417
As if I needed more reason to stay in-base and have robots work on everything
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-380 No.115424
I don't like the Quality feature in the new expansion. I hope someone makes a mod to remove it.
No.115509
>>115424After having read the blog post on it and thinking really hard about it, I actually really like the system. Especially when I read the line that basically made one of the points I'd make for me:
>It plays nicely with the space platform building part, as the space on the platform is quite limited and expensive, it is very efficient to save the best stuff you have for the platform, at least in the beginningSince the next expansion is a mini space exploration, quality seriously helps with setting up new planets and quickly popping out a new world base. Also if you pay attention to the notes about quality, it only adds benefit to existing buildings, it doesn't actually detract from the existing functionality of stuff so you could play completely ignoring it and have no difference in experience from playing regularly. But now instead of needing to worry about quickly sucking dry the resources of a new planet that we're trying to expand to we can see instead a way to keep bases a bit more compact for a while and not need to make a labyrinth out of each.
>Mining drills deplete resources slower>4 Legendary productivity modules in an an assembling machine 3 gives +100% productivity bonus (it was +40% before). Since this multiplies in multi-step production chains, the overall factory productivity gets quite a big boostThis could seriously improve the longevity of a small outpost on a new planet. Also assuming they add the planetary drill from SE then this could be used to make that an even more viable strategy. I can already picture an endgame setup where your space platform has a large quality factory on it taking resources from the many planets you've colonized and there you use it to craft legendary quality materials for your most important facilities (like previously mentioned world drills)
On the topic of things I'd really like to see added in the expansion, I think an expansion on the current enemy variety could be cool. Especially so if it's worked into the planetary exploration part of the game where different planets could potentially have different species on them and the world you spawn on initially could harbor any of them. I think this'd be neat for later game when you're already in space so that maybe you need to adapt different strategies with your godly arsenal at that point for expanding into a different species than you've been struggling against already. Like maybe extremely fast and numerous aliens with far less health, or maybe even flying ones. Would add a whole new level to death worlds if you could spawn on a world with flying bugs.
No.115548
friday nite!
time to read some factorio updates
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-382 No.115945
probably a matter of a game that's really wide but not entirely polished
No.115947
>>115946too many of these could make the game really slow...
it looks like you can select a specific signal location on the top row. Based on the sorting you can select the number 0(which would min/max) so on. Then there's a flag for counting the number of something... then a random number generator and so on
No.118115
>>118096This is probably one of the best additions they've announced so far. Making refueling stations for each deposit/drop-off caused so many unnecessary headaches in getting the fuel all around up until you have bots capable of doing it, and even then sometimes you'd have the conditions for coming and going from stations be fulfilled causing the trains to eventually blow past stations too fast to refuel and then run low while in the middle of the tracks. Even more than that though, you could probably make an entire train system based on interrupts and the new grouping system for trains will make scaling up infrastructure a breeze if adjusting a group will adjust the path for an entire system of trains. Probably will be amazing to combine this with switches.