No.3055
Something I learned about the game industry is that the top leadership come from food manufacturing. So they bring the practices of running their industry into another simply because they had the money and past experience with a specialization.
So I have to wonder if the people who focus so much on evaluations are maybe like automobile executives or other such manufacturing who don't understand developer culture
No.3056
i want to lick don's sweaty feet
No.3057
why the FUCK is every dev doing/getting reports MONTHLY??? i do those retrospectives fucking biyearly
that is a hemorrhage of time, tally up all the projected work hours spent on it and tell those fuckers it's not very agile of them
that you actually do want devs to work, on other things
or don't, because i have no idea what the structure of your company is and whether they put all that stuff to work
but it's definitely not THE way to do management
No.3060
>>3058>SAFeIsn't that just agile principles reframed into a waterfall that PMs could swallow?
No.3061
>>3060Atleast for me it's more like pretending to be waterfall to PMs so devs can be Agile, but yes.
A lot of business process peoples like it more since it gives them the illusion of planning out stuff each quarter.
No.3062
>>3055>Something I learned about the game industry is that the top leadership come from food manufacturing.What do you mean by that? The games industry is a big industry.
No.3063
you have way too much fucking management and processes
No.3064
yeah you should really look into getting someone to manage all that management and process
No.3065
We could just simplify managing these process by creating a system or a new manifesto tailored to our specific use case
No.3066
>>3064>yeah you should really look into getting someone to manage all that management and processI'm the manager... But I'm not allowed to change the processes as it's a huge company that has been "working fine" this way since 10 years ago and my boss thinks I just want to "work less" when I point out to him the devs are annoyed with all the reports and performance reviews.
No.3067
>>3054>productivity means creating more processesThe more work there is to do, the bigger the department needs to be.
The bigger the department is, the more power its leadership holds.
Streamlining is only good when it requires picking up completely new tasks as a prerequisite, even better if those tasks come from "integrating" with another department.
Never reduce work on a procedural level because that leads to reduction of heads, reduction of funding, and reduction of political weight.
If you must improve things, improve them unofficially by quietly skipping steps while producing the same output on paper.
No.3068
this thread made me physically ill
No.3070
ill sager
No.3071
>>3069i really really wish that was the case
i stopped being one a year and half ago
while not a dev i work in IT support and this whole review corpo talk reminded me of my own reviews (i'm the one being reviewed though)
No.3072
360 noscope reviews
No.3073
>>3071OP here.
You reminded me I also get reviewed:
- Every quarter: by the client, my manager, my peers, PMO, people from other areas (finance, IT, account managers, etc) and also by the devs that report to me.
(Also every week I'm audited by PMO for process compliance)
What a wonderful world!!!!
No.3074
>>3073That sounds like some strait up East German or Elan School petty control.
The few times I was ever given a self review I always would put just the maximum score for everything, because it was time wasting and they were going to knock me down a peg and tell me what they want me to do anyways.
No.3075
>>3054>The few times I was ever given a self review I always would put just the maximum score for everything, because it was time wasting and they were going to knock me down a peg and tell me what they want me to do anyways.That's what I always do because I know for a fact that salary reviews are directly linked to these scores. I also know for sure that my manager never gives me full marks, no matter what because "nobody is perfect"