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 No.90774

When did you become aware of the esoteric mysteries behind Touhou?
Have you ever felt like there is something more behind the surface, aside the cool music, cute girls and strange patterns? (mandalas)

New home? Temporary refuge? What matters is having a good time together to avoid suffering.

 No.90776

>>90774
>When did you become aware of the esoteric mysteries behind Touhou?
It was the hats! There's just something about them, something... otherworldly.

 No.90779

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When you realize that Touhou is basically a doujin of Japanese and Chinese mythology things start clicking.

 No.90781

>When did you become aware of the esoteric mysteries behind Touhou?
The year was 2008. I had just seen ran ran ru on YouTube on my Windows XP PC and followed the recommendations to https://youtu.be/cDz9X2X3MTc and then https://youtu.be/8jJZA-O_B78 and then found other Touhou songs like https://youtu.be/pw2WQjqKpVM. I still had no idea what touhou was by that point, but I thought the music was great. A few years later through YouTube recommendations, I found Touhou music again through "black MIDIs" like this one https://youtu.be/tds0qoxWVss and that was when I started actually trying to learn more about Touhou. By this point I had upgraded to a Mac mini and fired up Vuze and torrented Th6: EoSD and I was absolute crap at it! Still am! I honestly can't believe people can manage to get through without bombs and weave through those insane amounts of bullets flying.

 No.90785

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>>90779
The boundary between fiction, mythology and reality is getting blurry. Was it a coincidence that the 4chan hackers picked Night of Nights as the song to represent their antics and that the prophetic message has Remilia on it?

The new book got actually marked as a fortune telling book in online stores. People are leaving more and more offerings at multiple Suwa shrines, to the point it is becoming problematic...
Something is happening.

 No.90791

If you're asking when I was first exposed to Touhou, it was one of two things and I can't remember which happened first. It was either an old /f/lash which was an interactive playlist of random VGM and I found Mystia's theme (Deaf to all but the Sound?) or the utterly bonkers OVERDRIVE flash. This was like... 20 years ago. Good lord.

 No.90836

I have to wonder how many people that found Touhou did so NOT through IOSYS or Flan theme remixes.

 No.90892

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>>90785
When coincidences keep piling up on eachother like that is it really coincidence? This month has been full of them.

>The new book got actually marked as a fortune telling book in online stores
I forgot about the Omikuji book amidst all this. Hopefully there's been some translation progress made.
That said I think Kissu has a dice rolling function so it's a good a place as any to try it if anyone else would like to give it a shot.

The method the book proposes that's simplest is to roll 3d8 and calculate based on their formula:
>(0 if the first is odd, 64 if even) + (second x 8) + third - 8
Then you pull the fortune with that number.
Reference this site for your rolled number: https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Whispered_Oracle_of_Hakurei_Shrine
Then find the one you rolled in this gallery and translate: Image Gallery: https://postimg.cc/gallery/08SNBfv

 No.90905

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>>90779
Can you find it in you to believe that the spirits in these mythologies are real?

 No.90963

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>>90836
>I have to wonder how many people that found Touhou did so NOT through IOSYS or Flan theme remixes
I got into Touhou through Akatsuki Records

 No.90964

>>90836
In my case it was Chen memes.

 No.90965

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>>90963
Surprise box!!!

 No.90969

>>90965
I RABU STACK
PIPO PAPO!

 No.90970

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>>90963
I found it through the Rensenware video by danooct1, around when that got uploaded.

 No.90971

>>90970
Holy shit Danooct1 watcher, love that guy, also love RogueAmp as well...

 No.90972

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>>90836
I think I discovered 2hu through Team Fortress 2 MAD/YTPMVs when it first started getting popular in the west, but I didn't get into the series until way later.

 No.91093

>>90774
4chan is what made me play the games, but i discovered that a PvZ YouTuber that I used to watch (and sadly deleted his channel) used the IN soundtrack in one of his Survival Endless strategy videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q97xhUrvPEk
even has the the name of the song and game in the bottom left corner of thr screen. this was wild to me when i was rewatching his videos after years of forgetting about him. i could have gotten into TouHou much earlier than i did had i bothered to look up that song and game name. probably would have sucked though since i was just a kid when i saw this video for the first time

 No.91095

>>90969
Best voice in the scene, she deserves the fame.

 No.91101

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>>91095
She has a crazy vocal range. I just wish she changed up her songwriting a bit since it feels like every song of hers has that obligatory slow section 3/4 the way through.

 No.91118

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>>90963
Did you guys know that Akatsuki Records put some mantras on their song's lyrics?

In their Okina song, Metamorphosis, you find this: "Om Matarah Namah, Matarah Hidden Star"

Quite the stuff, eh? Shoving mantras like that in songs could even trigger religious events in some people...

 No.91144

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>>91118
>could even trigger religious events in some people
H-How so?

 No.91147

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>>91144
Let's just say if you keep an open mind you're gonna learn a lot. Even if you don't fully believe or take it to heart it'll change your perspective on things a bit, and it's interesting at the very least. But uh, I'm no the most qualified one in the room to explain it.

 No.91148

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>>91144
From Wikipedia: "A mantra is a sacred utterance, a numinous sound, a syllable, word or phonemes, or group of words (most often in an Indo-Iranian language like Sanskrit or Avestan) believed by practitioners to have religious, magical or spiritual powers."

It could be harmless, basically by making you more focused on the song or maybe it makes you enter in contact with something else. Again, from the same Wikipedia page on Mantras:
"According to Edward Conze, Buddhists initially used mantras as protective spells like the Ratana Sutta for apotropaic reasons. Even at this early stage, there was an idea that these spells were somehow connected with the Dharma in a deep sense."

What is the deeper meaning of those included in the songs or in Touhou itself (like Kyoko's gyate gyate meme being an actual mantra, the Heart Sutra) we don't know. Cool wink to culture or something else? This question comes along often the more you think deeply about Touhou.

 No.91150

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>>91118
I find real religious significance in a lot of Akatsuki Records music. My favorite is in Idola Deus's lyrics due to my own alignment, but it's everywhere if you plumb the lyrics.

 No.91153

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>>91148
You forgot to mention that George Harrison used the mantra from the Hindu God Krishna in his song "My Sweet Lord"

Very likely the modern inspiration for this mantra in songs deal. There is always a Beatle's footprint behind things...

 No.91175

After reading a bit about the occult now the symbolism around Yukari makes a lot of sense. It’s actually a bit too on the nose. To the point it seems really important, but only seems of course.
Amazingly I don’t think ZUN is even aware of it and I don’t think he created it intentionally, consciously or even subconsciously.

On an unrelated tangent those Cult of Saturn nerds knew their stuff.

While this is nice and all, what we really want is a way out. Isn’t that what we REALLY want? A practical way to escape whatever *this* is and go where we want to go.

Anybody can sift through the sand and make out faces and futures, yet nobody seems able to tell how to make dreams reality. And I don’t mean the boring mundane ones greyfaces have I mean the ones you get after reading a story or watching an anime or whatever. The daydreams.
Like don’t you think it’s really weird we’re thrown into *this* and we have no memory or knowledge and then they try to tell you rules and what to do and who you are? Do you know what kinds of stories this theme shows up in?
All of this is fatiguing really.

 No.91176

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>>91175
The site keeps forgetting my images and this is annoying.

 No.91177

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>>90836
i dont think i can remember exactly how, but if my memory doesnt fail me, my first interactions with touhou were on /fit/, i remember seeing pics about colorful girls being posted and not knowing anything about it, then i started recognizing them in videogames, like tf2 and youtube videos, at that point i still didnt know what was that all about until for some reason, a banner from /jp/ saying "do not come to /jp/ please" called my attention, i decided to visit and lurk, and ended up being captivated by the board culture and getting into touhou properly,i decide to just lurk and played the games before posting in order to not taint my experience and get a proper understanding of it

 No.91256

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>>90892
The omikuji book is so interesting. Like a year ago when this all started, if I would have said "ZUN will release an official Touhou fortune telling book" people would have been haha yeah keep on dreaming schizo. On some mundane level it makes sense - he's drawn a handful of Touhou-themed omikuji before, but there's just...something about it all.

In particular, the framing of how Reimu needs to do the omikuji to re-define the nature of Gensokyo's inhabitants is so...Shinto. Everything is ever changing, but by doing the proper rituals, it's possible to return to balance and into a kind of timeles state.

Something about him throw the beans at that shrine during New Year's, activity usually reserved for priests, just feels like he is either wilfully taking or being prodded to take that "High Priest of Hakurei Shrine" role he has chosen for himself more seriously.

There's also that on Japanese government document about the state of religions in Japan, and they use some YouTube video where Hatsune Miku gives worship instructions at the Hakurei Shrine as an example of "virtual religion".
>>91118
I love that song, it's like a hymn to her.
>>91148
Gyate Gyate is only a part of the mantra, the full thing goes:
Gyatei gyatei haragyatei harasōgyatei boji sowaka
The way it was explained to me, it's intended to awaken the prajna wisdom of the one who recities it. Prajna is insight into the nature of things, in a Buddhist sense.

The Heart Sutra is incredibly popular among the various Japanese Buddhists sects. Because it is a relatively short text, a tradition of reciting and copying it as an offering in itself has risen. It is a cool wink to broader Japanese culture, but because of what it is associated with, almost an offering in itself. And even if he didn't intend so, multiple people have read the Heart Sutra because of "Gyate Gyate"
>>91150
There really is something special in some of those songs. There's some which feel explicitly religious - OMEN is a good example of this. There's even more stuff which plays with ideas from East Asian religions, most commonly Buddhism. And then there's the stuff which feels like it is tapped directly to the source, like it's shamanistic, the way Stack sings from the character's POV with this incredible power and grandiosity, like she is just letting them flow out of her.
>>91153
If I remember correctly there are Japanese people who have done some rather modern adaptations of Buddhist sutras and mantras into music, so inspiration might be newer and closer to home for them.
>>91175
Yukari is super interesting because she is not explicitly based on anything. The sukima-onna thing seems like a red herring. I don't know who or what she is yet, and prying too much feels wrong. But the parallels with Xiwang Mu are extremely interesting. If the portrayal of Yukari is some kind of manifestation of her, it feels so genuine in the sense that it's so effortless, unlabored, feels so "coincidental" and unlabored, like she whispered to ZUN through the broken telephone that spirit-to-human communication tends to be, and he just felt compelled to create Yukari.

 No.91446

>>91256
>There's also that on Japanese government document about the state of religions in Japan, and they use some YouTube video where Hatsune Miku gives worship instructions at the Hakurei Shrine as an example of "virtual religion".
That is the first time I've heard of this. Do you know where I could find that? Either the video or document in question. If it's acknowledged by the government then the instructions have actual merit to them.

 No.91494

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>>91446
The document is apparently this.
https://files.catbox.moe/nc18wh.pdf

 No.91496

>>91494
>ネット上には「博麗神社のエア参拝」というものもある。初音ミクのようなキャラクターが登場して,参拝の仕方をやってみせる。
yeap looks like this is it nice
and the video might be pic, as this it's from 2010 and the doc is from 2011

 No.91647

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>>91496
Really nice find, it would fit the descripton. I never go around looking for it myself.
Not fluent enough in Japanese to really understand much of it or what people are finding funny, but the instructions about bowing and clapping and ringing the bell if there is one seem right to me.

 No.92271

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I wrote an analysis of the Whispered Oracle of Hakurei Shrine.
https://archive-of-the-sealed-gods.neocities.org/letters-archive/whispered_oracle

There's a lot of interesting stuff going on with this book. The narrative framing of it is particularly fascinating, as it is essentially a ritual intended to re-define and re-stabilize Gensokyo. This idea of using rituals to re-stabilize society after crisis is extremely in line with Shinto thinking. This ritual aspect might extend out of the fictional narrative in both more and less mundane ways. The choice of only Windows era characters showing up might be very intentional in this light, ZUN's way of saying that this is really it and you should stop pining after the PC-98 era.

There are of course much more esoteric implications of this kind of a ritual, but what exactly is their intended impact is as of now unclear.

There's some weirdness surrounding it's release and the slightly forced choice of exactly 128 characters. The book getting released prematurely and with a printing error might have been part of a greater plan, something ZUN might be hesitant to accept himself...

It's extremely remarkable that we now have a 100% canonical and 100% functional Touhou fortune telling - or perhaps even divination - book at our hands. I feel like a year or two ago if someone had said something like this will happen they would have gotten laughed at. To be honest, I think the fandom hasn't really fully digested the implications of it being something else than just art & lore book as some expected.

Also, it turns out a popular form of omikuji has ties to Nagano, which ZUN lived his youth in. Yet another connection to that prefecture on top of the heaps Touhou already has...

Really interesting book and it feels like it's this continuation of a subtle trend where it feels like ZUN is being pushed to make good on calling himself a priest for years...

 No.92282

>>92271
cool website

 No.92300

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Should've posted it earlier, really. I kind of get what you mean now.
I've known about touhou for the longest time (don't remember when i first heard about it though) but i never thought much of it until sometime recently which i can't pinpoint either because i'm awful with time.
Great designs, the games and music are pretty good but not my favorites - that's how i looked at it before... It's not all that different even now except occasional random thought of "man, touhou is so great" and i couldn't tell you where it's coming from or what is so great about it exactly (surely it's not just the designs that are doing it for me, but could be). More likely it's just the fact that it's been around me forever now since it's integral to imageboards that i used to frequent, and that's the only format of communication i engage in pretty much. So it ended up becoming a pretty big part of me too.
I don't know anything about religion or esoterica but attributing it to something bigger than you sounds exciting if nothing else, i'll give your site a proper read when i have nothing else to do, sounds interesting.

 No.92352

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>>92282
Thanks. I wish I had the skills to make it look nicer though.
>>92300
>attributing it to something bigger than you sounds exciting if nothing else
>i'll give your site a proper read when i have nothing else to do
I apreciate everybody who reads it, but it's a very long read. I think maybe these two written by someone long time before me might be a good starting point:
https://gnosisonic.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/japans-new-mythology/
https://gnosisonic.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/special-but-not-special/

 No.92780

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>>92271
>it is essentially a ritual intended to re-define and re-stabilize Gensokyo.

ZUN arrived too late. The barrier is getting more and more unstable as time goes on.
These 神 are spreading at unprecedented speeds.

We are being watched and the 神 want to be watched back.

What will happen next? The wheel of events was set into motion and nothing will stop it.

 No.92841

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Any news on the next chapter? Anything??

 No.92867

>>92841
Is it up yet?

 No.92966

>>92841
Nothing ever happens.




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