My motto in life is time heals every wound.
And if time doesn't do it, cute anime girls will.
(Songs help too.)

drawing tits

I figure out what it is I'm feeling and then try to answer it within its own terms. Patiently letting things play out and accepting when there's no solution, moving on satisfied. Seems to mellow me out. Helps with cardio as well, just accepting the pain as it comes without judging it gives me a greater capacity to deal with it.

My 'solution' isn't much of one, I've simply abandoned the world and live as a hermit. Nature and responsibility-free online anonymity is nice, though.

I drive really fast and it makes me feel better. It's why I no longer fear death. Ideal end of life will be becoming red streak on the pavement somewhere.

I don't know that I am mentally ill. Emotional problems however... I just live with it. Medication is kind of gay and doesn't actually solve anything.
Therapy would probably make me feel worse.
Meditation(?) is something I might be incapable of, and you could say I infact am doing the opposite a lot of the time at work. I withdraw into my mind and let my body go into autopilot.
Breathing exercises... I only do those when I get hiccups.
I'll never bother with positive affirmations. I don't see myself as the problem, clearly it's everyone else. I'm fine with myself as I am, but I really wouldn't mind having friends or any sense of belonging.

>>7548
>bonus q to reply to: which do you think is the most effective?
A loli sister wife...

>>7548
I want to choose all three of
> something else
> i don't -- i just live with it
> i'm not menhera....

I suspect I'd be mostly dissatisfied and uncomfortable with the default processes of existence and life even if I were not negatively affected by any mental disturbances.
That's it. Living and dying are the mental illness, consciously and unconsciously reacting to them is mental illness. Closest to true mental healthiness you could get is being able to get into a state of flow and focus anytime you'd prefer to reroute your inner gravity for whatever is your preference you deem worthy beyond gravity; this is bigger than willpower, its component. Most of "successful" people you can think of only rode their lifelong wave, dying or waiting for a new one once it crashes.
I like that there are at least people splashing the water in their aware attempts, so there's at least someone to relate to.

It's what the baby tries to grasp in its attempts of "magical thinking", and it drops the pursuit — for better or worse — out of the instinctual raw empirical pragmaticism and faithlessness in its own baby gravity. Maladaptions around this are rightfully considered to be negative while it is ignored that the usual community-reinforced path is just as morbid.
Mental health is the exceptional rarity that I'm not even sure can really exist beyond being a transient miracle for anyone, possibly arriving a fracture of a percent more often if you focus and meditate and pray hard enough with the right method at the right time at the right place at the right mindset at the right sentiment at the right fabricated focal point within your qualia. If you're lucky, at the moment.
You could still call what we could realistically obtain from it a flavor of mental illness. The pointer to mental health is structured by sensibilities that are insane even beyond just breaching merely rationality and logics.
That's your "mental health." Its symbol is venerated and its essence is forbidden even within the society in your blood; it's hardwired that deflating/inflating determinism, entropy, and their opposites is reacted to as grandiosity and attempts to inflate/deflate the nature of oneself — the collective and inner human nature is inherently so full of itself that it projects the intrusiveness onto you and tries to punish you for it in a double bind where all you normally use as a compass is the fluctuation of the punishment severity you end up receiving — you mistake a statistically inevitable deviation as data and proceed into a direction, where you're given more chaotic data, as it not just doesn't know what it wants: it doesn't have a wanting — and so you see that the magic thinking was only placed elsewhere, where others don't doubt it, because it's an universal taboo to doubt it in that territory. You get to juggle mental illnesses as if this road guarantees you'd arrive to anything you'd care about. You don't get to run away or hide. There's no outsmarting your ways out of this, either. The subtle supply of direct persistence scratching the fog is its own kind of a thrill and is all what's left despite whatever. Not mentally healthy, but neither is the obligation to care about the label. Haven't the fog had enough of its own farce by now, though? Well?

My biggest issue seems to be my depression which stems from a painful rejection in the past. I have since gotten over the situation and think to feel fine emotionally, but I for some reason haven't been able to regain my interest in hobbies and fun things I used to love doing. Not really sure what to do here because the initial issue seems resolved, though I am receiving "professional help" from an interesting person and will see where that leads me.

I just try to focus on the things I like / liked and continue to do so to the best of my ability, even if it doesn't help in the moment. At the end of the day, I do feel better having made an effort to try instead of just sitting here and consuming random content until I'm tired.

I don't feel like i'm mentally unstable and don't have any mental illnesses (that i know of) so that means i'm not a menhera, right?
Or does menhera mean more that just being mentally unstable and/or having mental illnesses?
I very often feel like i'm forced to live life in opposition of how i want to live it and that keeps me up at night, but i'm guessing that's not menhera and just normal life.
>>7549
> And if time doesn't do it, cute anime girls will.
>(Songs help too.)
Sound advice in general. The positive effect a cute anime girl (or a good song) can have on you is great!
>>7552
>I've simply abandoned the world and live as a hermit.
Life goals. If i can figure out a realistic way to do that without starving to death after a few months, i will.

>how do kissus deal with their menhera issues?
By self sabotaging and making everything worse for myself, of course.

this mental healther just mental healthed me

CBT helped me a lot with my depression and social anxiety.
I had to start taking lexapro after I started having really bad anxiety, but it's fine now. I'm on 7,5mg.
Before the anxiety started I could function just fine even without medication.

>>7549
Now I have to think of that one song, time heals every wonder.

>>7561
I too love Cock and Ball Torture.

>>7548
alcohol and dood

>>7563
In ancient Egypt, they used to do bladder stone surgery by first dilating the urethra by jamming a rod the thickness of a thumb up the pen0r.

>>7548
Believe it or not working hard makes me feel great
A day in which I go to sleep dead tired from working is a great feeling
>bonus q to reply
I uh... wish I was actually making some goddamn money from my work

I'm on meds (antipsychotics, antidepressants, lithium and benzos) and they mostly dealt with the issues, though they made me emotionally blunt and kind of apathetic towards life

I am off my meds and online!

>>7555
>A loli sister wife...
checked and /thread

any time i feel sad i just play that one video of those black guys saying "it is what it is" to cope this is the ultimate life hack

Shikata nai ne.

>>7567
>though they made me emotionally blunt and kind of apathetic towards life
That's how it goes, unfortunately. Sometimes turning emotions off is the only solution to be found. I was like that for about 16 years.
One day you'll likely be able to go off of them or lower the dose.

>>7567
Can't speak to your issues or their severity and with what will or won't work for you, but Lexapro works well for my anxiety/depression. If you can taper off of benzos safely with your doctor, you may want to try it as an alternative. For me, I feel much better emotionally. No turbulent swings of negative emotions that keep me from doing what I actually want to do. I feel "stable", not blunted, if that makes any sense. Having to check for drug interactions every now and then to make sure I don't give myself serotonin syndrome is kind of annoying, but a small price to pay for regaining rational thought.

>>7567
>>7580
I'm only on antidepressants (125mg Sertralin / Zoloft daily) and think it's helping me as well? Didn't feel any difference from 25mg to 75mg, but I think I started to get better with 100mg. I felt less mentally "lazy" and more motivated to indulge in the hobbies I loved before these issues. No negative effects that I can tell.
I feel like problems started happening again when I went to 125mg, which I did just to test out if it might make me feel "even better". Now I feel similarly mentally lazy again, still a little less upset than without any meds, but not having the drive to do anything kind of negatively balances it out, so I will ask my doctor about this and probably go back to 100mg again.
Take my experiences with a grain of salt though as there is a possibility that I just had an unusually long good phase during the 100mg and the positive effect was just an illusion. Still though, emotional bluntness is something I haven't experienced so far at all.

Either way, I was told by every doctor I've asked about these scary "zombie stories" that they are supposedly related to too high dosages. I believe I was also told that some people don't respond well to certain medication outright, so it might be best for you to steadily try and reduce dosages, then change medication as a last resort if there are no changes.

Wish you all would try to get off the SSRIs they're really bad for you.

>>7582
Is there a more healthy alternative if the effect of no medication is worse than using an SSRI?

>>7583
People just don't understand mental illness and the ignorance around it leads to such comments. People can understand physical illness because the afflictions are self-evident, but it's taken millennia for mental illness to be recognized, barely. People can empathize with someone with a broken leg or deafness, but accepting that the brain can have issues with its functionality is very difficult.

>>7583
>if the effect of no medication is worse than using an SSRI?
Yes, figure out what's causing your depression/anxiety/issues and fix it. Usually it will involve some major life change and probably a change in your diet. Drugs are never the answer and SSRIs are no different than masking your depression/anxiety/whatever with drugs like xanax, valium, opioids, alcohol or attempting to "fix" your brain by taking a shroom trip or something.

Trust me on this. I went through a bunch over the years including some of the ones you all are taking. They only make the issues worse long term and withdrawals are HORRIBLE. Withdrawal from some of those drugs is much worse than coming off opioids, alcohol, xanax and other drugs typically used to self medicate for such issues. Note when I say SSRIs I'm referring to the entire class of what they call "anti-depressants" so SNRIs and all of the others.

I highly suggest going on scihub and reading up on some of the things those are doing to your brain. The ill effects you're feeling if you're attempting to cold turkey or taper them are more from the fact you're dependent on them much like an opioid addict but don't feel it's as bad as someone buying drugs off the street. Drugs are drugs. Doesn't matter if you're getting them from someone in a lab coat.

I don't know your personal life. But I'll bet anything eating good food, getting plenty of sunshine, disconnecting from the internet/screens for set hours during the day and changing your lifestyle (e.g. if you hate your job try to leave it and find another one that doesn't depress you or stress you out) will show more improvement than masking whatever you're feeling day-to-day with a pill. Also need to have good sleep hygiene of course.

Go read some white papers and unbiased studies about them. They openly admit they don't understand how most of these drugs work in the SSRI-etc classes of drugs and most doctors are less educated about their effects than someone that reads medical papers for fun. Most doctors these days barely read them or follow studies at all. They get spoonfed information from pharma reps and they get big bonuses for prescribing certain drugs to patients. They get other benefits too like free vacations to expensive resorts to attend "conferences" or whatever they're calling them.

I know a few doctors IRL. I talk to them about this fairly often. I know a GP that makes tons of money every year simply because he prescribes name brand medication. Hands out free samples of it like candy. Usually more pharma reps in his waiting room than actual patients depending on when you go there to see him. 10-15 years ago he was writing scripts for opioids and xanax all of the time. Now that those are being attacked in the media he's switched to writing scripts for things like SSRIs instead for off-label purposes (like insomnia and pain mostly). That way he still gets to attend those cons at resorts and gets those huge bonuses at the end of every quarter. He also switches his patients over to new name brand (patented) medications when the patents on the old ones expire and go generic (different between $2 per monthly re-fill without insurance vs. $2k+ a month). Even people with insurance that only have a co-pay end up paying that high cost a few months out of the years if they're in the so-called "doughnut hole"). Dealing with that right now with one person I'm close to because one of her heart medications (which is advertised on TV constantly) costs over $2k a month at retail price.

Sorry for rant. My point was drugs are never the answer to these problems. If you feel bad your brain and body is trying to tell you something. You aren't "mentally ill" because you feel bad about living in modern society. It's a natural reaction to the world we live in I'm afraid. You have to find more healthy ways to cope with it.

Please don't stop cold turkey now because I've posted this. Read up on whatever drug you're taking and its side effects then ween yourself off slowly. Trust me coming off such things cold turkey really really sucks. The drugs you're taking are affecting you in more ways than you realize at the moment (most negative). That's because people on drugs masking their problems don't feel what they're supposed to be feeling and typically don't make good decisions. If I had continued to listen to my GP and trusted him fully I'd probably already be dead or in prison like most of my (former because they're now dead) friends.

A good doctor is _very_ hard to find in the west these days. Do not put your trust in them. Always do your own research. Always get a second and third opinion. Try to find one related by blood or at least through a long term friend (2 if you can pull it off).

I guess I'm in a better position to have an opinion about how modern doctors operate because I have a sibling doing it for a living and know two others from childhood. When I got mixed up with the doctors I had issues with I was younger and the people I know doing it now weren't old enough to practice yet.

>>7585
(cont.)


Another thing: I don't trust psychologists for many reasons. But the main one is this. When I was a child my father took me to one because my mother left us high and dry. As you can imagine this was really hard on both of us. I was 5 years old when she split and his marriage fell apart in the span of a couple of months because he was working on the road and she did some very bad things while he was away 6+ days out of every week. By the time he caught what she did we were 10s of thousands of dollars in debt. I'll spare you the details because this is already super long.

Anyway, we went to that shrink who insisted on speaking with us in separate rooms/sessions. I refused to speak a word to that man. Don't ask me why I just wanted interested. I didn't want to talk about my feelings because I was raised that way I guess.

Well this guy was going to my father's session and tell him that I was talking openly to him and he was making great progress with me. Told my father a lot of bullshit. We went back 3 or 4 times before Dad's work refused to continue covering those sessions because they were costing his company thousands of dollars every time we went. This was decades ago. Back when money was still worth something.

Many decades later my Dad randomly brought it up while I was hanging out with him one day. He said the man was a great guy and he felt things in our home improved some after we saw him. Said he wished we could have kept going. Since I was talking with that man about my problems when I wouldn't talk to my own father about my feelings.

As you can imagine when I informed him that I never spoke more than 2 words to the man he got pretty angry about getting hoodwinked and conned out of many thousands of dollars while we were already trying to fix what Mom did and crawl out of the debt she left our family in.

I've heard many similar stories from other people. I do not trust doctors that focus on "mental health issues" nor do I trust the drugs they typically prescribe after just one or two sessions. If they were serious about their jobs they would make every effort to help you improve what ever is bothering you instead of throwing drugs at you so quickly. Most people simply just need a friend/family to lend an ear, someone they can confide their feelings/troubles in, time and some basic life style changes.

I'm always willing to be an ear anon.

You know what I do when I'm depressed? I go lay out in the sun. Or go swimming. Or my favorites: I ride my motorcycles/ATV/dirt bike or go hiking. That's what works for me. Mostly the latter three. Anything but staying indoors and looking at a screen all day or sleeping until past noon.

I also try really hard to spend time with my Grandmother. We do oil painting together and other things like that. Last week I took her target shooting because she wanted to learn how to shoot a revolver. Today we went swimming. She won't be around for much longer. So I spend all the time with her that I can. I always feel better afterwards even if all we do is talk and watch soap operas. At night I always make a point to visit my Dad and sit on the porch with him for an hour or two. I always feel better after that. I also try to call my mother who lives many states away at least once every couple of months. We usually talk for 1-3 hours on the phone when I do. I always feel better after that.

Like I said. We're all friends here. If something is ever bothering you. Post about it. I'll try to reply when I see it. I'm sure others will too.

>>7585
>Yes, figure out what's causing your depression/anxiety/issues and fix it.
I pretty clearly have brain problems. I don't think CBT will fix seasonal mood swings and associated overly negative thinking when it's something I feel, not something I think.

Can't comment on other drugs, but I unintentionally quit my SSRI cold turkey while running out during travel. As far as I could tell, I didn't have any ill side effects whatsoever. That was over a course of about about a week without medication. Online said I would feel effects within 2-3 days, but as mentioned didn't feel any different. The only serious medication-related issue I have experienced was failing to read drug interactions and unknowingly giving myself serotonin syndrome from taking a cold medication while ill. That could have been pretty serious had I not gone to a doctor. Something like that is a fair criticism, but not one you're making so I'm pretty unclear what angle you're coming from if you're concerned with risk, which you seem to be.

To your point about physicians not knowing the exact why of why SSRIs work -- I don't really see the point? A physicist, for example, can't tell you the exact reason why gravity exists, but I'm not going to ignore their advice when it comes to telling me I'll fall perilously if I step off a cliff. Yes, maybe the exact mechanism of action isn't fully known or understood, does that change their efficacy? I don't see why it would.

>>7587
>I pretty clearly have brain problems. I don't think CBT will fix seasonal mood swings and associated overly negative thinking when it's something I feel, not something I think.

I don't wish to enter a pissing contest but I just want you to know I'm coming from a similar background. My brain is highly damaged. I live with the thought that CTE is in my near future. I suffered multiple major concussions. I've cracked my skull open twice. My mother was highly unstable. While I'm not sure what she has exactly I can tell you there are three different people in there. One is super happy, one is supper depressed, and the other is super angry/enraged. When I lived with her for a short time during my late teens-early 20s (most several states away to escape problems back home) I never knew which one I'd be coming home after finishing work. I did however learn her "cycles" pretty well and wasn't too concerned because I knew no matter how depressed she was for a few days she'd be back on top of the world again soon.

It was like sharing a home with a 50s house wife/super Mom some days then a horribly depressed person the next. Or coming home to an enraged woman who would do things like wreck her new car on purpose over something minor by backing it into our fence.

Not to mention her second husband is a major alcoholic (but the working kind) as was she. I masked my own so-called mental health (and real pain) issues with opioids for years. There is no better anti-depressant on the market than morphine and oxycodone. The latter to get going in the morning and the first for winding down after a hard day's labor. Usually, mixed with xanax and some mixed drinks. All legal of course. Since they were handing them out like candy in those days.

(this is going to get long. sorry)

>>7587
>>7588
(cont 1.)

>Can't comment on other drugs, but I unintentionally quit my SSRI cold turkey while running out during travel. As far as I could tell, I didn't have any ill side effects whatsoever. That was over a course of about about a week without medication. Online said I would feel effects within 2-3 days, but as mentioned didn't feel any different.

See this is where you can't totally trust the internet. If you'd been taking them for many months/years before going cold turkey depending on the half life you probably still had some floating around in your system even after a week. Opioids/xanax/alcohol are different because of their typical short half lives. So within 6-8 hours you can tell the level has fallen and you start getting withdrawal onset quickly. At least after being on them for years. Personally, at one point I was eating/snorting oxycodone first thing in the morning, then about every 2-4 hours during the work day. When I got home I'd snort another one around supper time. Then an hour or two later maybe another one mixed with a rectal dose of morphine (it's far more effective through that route, I used an oral syringe, mixed morphine with distilled water then squirted about 40-60mg up my poop shoot a couple of hours before bed). I managed to maintain this lifestyle for many years and I was _very_ happy as you might imagine. Thanks to no longer feeling both physical and emotional pain. I'd pop 1-2mg of xanax with that last dose of morphine. Then a few hours later drift off to what I thought was decent sleep. But it wasn't due to the xanax not allowing me to enter REM sleep. I had horrible horrible insomnia due to my multiple head injuries. Even with the drugs I'd sometimes have to work 3-5 days in a row on little to no sleep. Sometimes the drugs didn't help.

Then at some point around year 4-5 of this my tolerance sky rocketed. Well I'd slowly up'd it over the course of those years I guess. 10mg of oxycodone per dose wasn't enough anymore now I needed 15-20mg each time. 40mg no longer cut it I needed 80mg and later 120mg. Same for the xanax couldn't feel 1-2mg anymore now I needed 3-4mg for the same effect. Doctor was more than happy to keep upping the dosages for many years. But suddenly opioids/xanax was big news in the media. They cut us all off over the course of about a year or two. I wasn't going to a pill mill either. This was a well respected GP.

Then the saga started where I had to get my supply from the street. Thankfully, pills on the street weren't laced with fent yet back then. Prices were low as well. Maybe $2-$3 per pill. But just a few short years later as the MSM fear mongered and doctors cut people off more and more the prices sky rocketed. What used to cost $100 a month from the doctor+pharmacy became $100 a week from the street. Then $200. Then $300+. I quit when the oxycodone started costing $5 a pill (I needed 2 every dose) and the xanax jumped up to that price as well (used to be $2 tops). I couldn't buy entire bottles of them at a deal anymore either. They started being sold like crack rocks and instead of buying them from regular patients of doctors like myself I had to start buying them from crack dealers. A year or two after I quit them they doubled in price on the street again. These days it would cost me well over $200 a day to maintain that kind of habit that used to cost $10-$20 a day when I thought they were becoming too expensive.

Withdrawals were horrible as expected. But you know what? It wasn't that bad. Like a bad case of the flu then several months of life sucking in general with massive depression. But after that passed I learned that 1) The drugs hadn't been helping for a long time. 2) I probably didn't need them in the first place even when I first got prescribed them and 3) they caused a lot more problems in my life than just dealing with the pain+sleep issues would have caused if I toughed it out. They made me a really horrible person. I had become a junkie without realizing it.

The above drugs are shamed as bad now when just a short time ago they were considered just as harmless as SSRIs and all this other stuff they toss around like candy now. The drugs you're taking are effecting you. Or if you really feel like they aren't then: Why do you think you need them in the first place?

What I'm trying to say is you have the will power to deal with whatever issues you think they're helping with on your own. Right now you're tied to a substance. It's like being handcuffed. You can't go on vacation or trips without planning around them, right? Doesn't that bother you?

>>7588
>>7589
>>7587

>To your point about physicians not knowing the exact why of why SSRIs work -- I don't really see the point?

My point is if they admit they don't know how they work and they don't know how the brain works then I feel it's a bad idea to put people on them so willy-nilly in the first place. All other options should be explored before hand before you resort to something like that. It's like using a sledge hammer in an attempt to fix something you could have fixed with careful tapping with a smaller hammer.

In medical terms: Why not try months of talk therapy first? Or attempting to get your brain to find balance through other methods? All drugs are just like keys to locks in your brain (from what we know about the brain). They tickle receptors in your brain and by tickling those the right way you get downstream effects. But again they're like a sledge hammer when a simple turn of a key in the lock could have opened the same door with far less possible damage to the surrounding doors.


I again highly suggest you go and read the studies for whatever substances you're taking. If you told me exactly which ones, in which doses and how often you're taking them daily (and how long you've been taking them) along with whatever you're on them for specifically I could of course give you more details about why they probably not a good idea (at least as a first attempt at fixing whatever problems).

See here is the main issue. These studies are run by pharma companies. They're supposed to follow strict rules about how they do the studies and have controls and all of them usual stuff that comes along with doing good science. But they aren't doing that. They're cheating the system and getting stuff approved with little to no testing all of the time. The FDA knows all about it too and aren't doing their job. In fact, most of the major people in the pharma industry jump back and forth between making big money at pharma companies then going to work at the FDA. This is already really long and I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty about it right now like naming names. I'm just saying this: If you make an honest attempt at doing the research (all the papers are available) and follow the money+the names of major players then you'll see that I'm right. The GPs and various other doctors like psychologists are in on it too. At least I think a lot of them knowingly are. Others I think are just ignorant, over worked and stressed out because they have to pay back so much student loan debt. The entire medical industry is really really crooked in the west I'm afraid. That's just how it is now if you want to work within it. I'm not saying all doctors are bad or doing some of this stuff on purpose. But they're certainly not going to turn down free vacations and the money they need to pay back their debt. They generally don't have time to read a lot of studies/whitepapers themselves either because they're over worked. Finally, like many people they're too trusting of authority and people in general.

They want to believe the best in other people. My sibling (imouto) is kind of like this because she's fresh out of med school. We've paid tons of money and she's taken out tons of debt to get to where she is now. But she's still far off from being able to do things like afford running her own clinic. She has to get in-line with what her bosses tell her to do. She thinks she knows certain things because that's how she was taught. Even though she hasn't the time nor the energy to read 1,000+ pages of papers about these drugs and other research being published daily.

>>7587
>>7588
>>7589
>>7590

>A physicist, for example, can't tell you the exact reason why gravity exists, but I'm not going to ignore their advice when it comes to telling me I'll fall perilously if I step off a cliff.

Well gravity is just a theory of course. No one has proven it. I see your point but I'll counter with one of my own; If the theory of gravity didn't exist in the text books would you walk off a cliff? Or did you learn a long time ago that it's probably a bad idea? Hence the expression "common sense".

>Yes, maybe the exact mechanism of action isn't fully known or understood, does that change their efficacy? I don't see why it would.

Do they work though or is it simply the placebo effect in action? A lot of those studies and papers about SSRIs don't prove they're any better than placebo. In fact, many proved they were worse than placebo and produced worse outcomes in the study groups (which are typically far too small in the first place). Many were straight up gamed to fake results and the FDA approved their use anyway because some older substance was going generic (patent expired) and the pharma company producing it tweaked it slightly which allowed them to patent the new drug for 10+ years and sell it both exclusively and at higher cost.

Let me ask you this: Do you trust what you see in ads for random crap on youtube and TV? How about the stuff advertised in infomercials that are well known to either not work at all? You know the types. Those "as seen on TV" products that are known garbage and have been for a long time. But people buy them anyway because they're gullible. Advertisements wouldn't be so common if they didn't work.

Perhaps you aren't in America or don't want TV now (which I don't blame you for). But turn on an America TV/stream sometime and tune to the local networks (ABC,CBS,NBC,fox and even most cable networks like CNN/Comedy Central).

All you will see are ads for pharma drugs now. They're played over and over again usually the same one many times at each ad break. They are for so many things too. I often see drugs being advertised to help with the side effects of other drugs (some of which you're taking). They even run ads featuring gay couples promoting a pill you can take before sex that's supposed to prevent you from catching HIV/AIDS from your sex partner that's known to already be positive. They advertise anti-depressant/psychotic medications nearly every ad break. They advertise other drugs to mask the side effects of the SSRIs. It's really nuts. All the ads for beer and other stuff like that has been replaced with these

>Ask your doctor about <x>
Commercials, would should be illegal to have on TV in the first place and I've heard it's illegal to have them on TV/streaming websites most everywhere else in the world. I used to watch streams of sporting events with people from overseas for a domestic sport I follow and they were always in awe about all these ads we have for pharma drugs.

It's a dirty industry. I could go into more detail one day about it if you'd like. But for now I encourage you to look into for yourself. Since that's the best way to convince someone I'm telling the truth ime. Please, take the time and go look for yourself.

I'm not trying to put you down or say you're wrong just to be an ass here. I really really want to avoid seeing someone else I know going down this path. I've known tons of people that got really messed up for life from taking these types of pharma drugs. I'm talking people unable to control their own body movements now (they twitch all of the time). People that started out taking one drug for something like this and are now on 6+. All due to side effects and masking side effects or long term damage it did to their bodies over time. Which were claimed to not be known side effects when the drugs were being advertised on TV/first prescribed. But later on it came out that in the original studies performed by the pharma companies on animals (and later on humans) the side effects showed up in testing. They simply hid the details and kept re-doing their study until they got the result they wanted to appease the FDA. Or they waited until they got one of their own running the FDA (or high up in it) to push through approval.


Obviously, I could go on about this all day. I'll stop now. Just promise me you'll try and take the time to look into what I'm talking about.

I promise you. Any issue you think is being solved with a daily use of drugs for "mental problems" can be fixed without the use of substances. At least not substances like SSRIs. I can offer you plenty of advice on taking some drugs that will help you long term with only one or two doses/sessions. If we lived closer together IRL I'd be willing to even baby sit you through withdrawal (should it come) and through those sessions. I've helped many people I knew/know IRL in the past.

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(cont. last) (sorry for loooooong post I type pretty fast and I wanted to put in the effort. Subject is close to my heart)

Last but not least I'll say this again: Feeling depressed or having anxiety about life in 2025 is NORMAL for everyone. Things are really bad right now and they seem to get a little worse with each passing day. We're all struggling in some way. The support systems we're supposed to have aren't there anymore (family, friends IRL, spouses, having children, having extended family/clans). It seems impossible now to obtain things like financial stability no matter how hard you work. Companies do not treat their employees right. The way we interact socially has changed drastically in the last 2-3 decades. The sense of community both IRL and on the internet is GONE. The future is very uncertain. People no longer trust their Government no matter what side of the political spectrum they're on. People no longer have organized religion to fall back upon. Many things that used to be run by our local communities there were there to help us be social and to have a safety net either no longer exist or are being run by the state. Propaganda is everywhere now and it's more dangerous than ever. The feeling of trust in society is gone no matter where you live (even in rural areas people are afraid to sleep with their doors unlocked anymore). The food and water aren't good quality anymore even if you buy whole foods. Most people aren't buying whole foods though, they're buying processed foods with tons of chemicals in them. Many of them brand new that weren't tested at all in humans before being approved for use (by the same crooked FDA of course).

So it's normal to feel like things are abnormal. Everyone is feeling it. It isn't just you.

There is a better way. Both for yourself and all of us collectively.

If you can please see how you feel about staying off of whatever it is you're taking for awhile and doing some of the things I've mentioned like hiking, taking some time away from screens/cell phone, participating in IRL hobbies more often, getting some fresh air and sun on your skin daily, doing things for yourself you enjoy, practicing good sleep hygiene, getting active for at least an hour or two everything by doing things like lifting or going for runs, spending time with family/friends more often (assuming you have them I really hope you do).

Last but not least; I find meditation helpful. Or at least actively keeping up with my feelings/mental state. When you feel bad and think of taking a pill instead wait 5-10 minutes. Try to relax. Take some deep breaths and slowly let them out. Excess energy? Go for a run. Feeling tired/depressed? Go outside and see if you can figure out what triggered it.

In other words: Mind over matter. If you're actively looking for your "triggers" you can modify your routine to either avoid them. Or face them head on and try to grow less sensitive to them.

There is no way anyone can tell if your brain is "broken" on a mental level. At least not if something major like a tumor or bleed shows up on a CT scan.

I know my brain is damaged because I have the proof and someday soon I'll probably require round the clock care to live. But until that day comes (hopefully, never) I try to manage things on my own. So far I've been doing decent enough. Even with the cycles of depression, anger that is uncalled for and from time to time the thought of ending my own life due to on-going pain issues (both mentally and psychically).

My brain might be damaged but that doesn't mean I'm not lucid and responsible for my actions. It took many years of actively paying attention to my own thoughts and modifying my behavior. But I no longer do stuff like scream at people over minor things. I've learned how to chill out and let things go. I've somewhat figured out how to deal with the inability to sleep. It's still a huge problem sometimes but I've learned to live with it. Instead of taking drugs I now just try to relax as much as possible, meditate and adjust my schedule to cope with the fact that I'll never sleep like a normal person again. I try and do anything except take a pill. I try to deal with my issues myself without aides. I won't even take an Asprin for a headache until I've had it for an hour+. Since 9 times out of 10 it will resolve on its own or I have it for other obvious reasons. Like not drinking enough water that day or something like that.

Best of luck to you. Please consider at least trying some of the things I've mentioned.

>>7584
I do completely agree with what you're saying, I see it the exact same, though that anon didn't strike me as someone just wanting to attentionseek, so I wanted to hear him out!

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>>7586
Thank you so much for the detailed response and - even more than that - the sweet words and very generous offer! It truly means a lot to me and I will try to hit you up on it if I ever feel like my state truly warrants such a request, which at the moment I (luckily) can't say.

I consider myself to be healthily paranoid and don't trust any doctors to begin with (unless they win my trust over with how they seem to be as a person), especially not my psychiatrist because she practically tried to sell me SSRIs a minute (and I do mean a minute) into our first appointment, though I did come in there planning to ask anyway.
My general doctor is extremely nice and supportive, but feels like she trusts the pharma industry way too much. I still like her a lot, but I know not to trust her unconditionally, though I'm certain she still never acts out of malice or greed.

I am actually aware that SSRIs aren't fully understood and only opted for this option because my usual approach of just waiting out my troubles didn't do anything. I avoided all types of medication during my first depression a long time ago (arguably the worst, since the first time around you won't know if it's even possible to get better in some way again), but the current one resulted in an issue I've never had this long (years) before, which is a complete and utter lack of interest in things I know I loved and still like. This makes getting help from my two best friends practically impossible, because while I love them, I feel overwhelmed with talking to or texting them actively - there's no interest and the same is true for practicing my hobbies or playing something, which means I lost my options for distraction or to have a positive time with to maintain a healthy balance of responsibilities and fun. That lead me to giving medication a try because even if it's unhealthy, one positive mental effect among thousands of downsides would still benefit my current time. It did help me to regain drive, the want to do things I consider fun and actually having fun with them, even if it's not as good as before, but it's enough.
Just real quick, the cause of the current depression was betrayal within an already nasty co-dependency I've caused for myself and that whole situation has been completely resolved with everyone involved out of my life, which is why I'm not sure how to "work on it". It's all done and somehow this one side-effect is still lasting.

My therapist (who I do actually trust, he's certainly earned it) got me to consider diet options after I realized through him that my "but it was never an issue before" thought might just be an illusion because obviously such needs can change with age. I'm actually only there because I have to be for welfare benefits, but I might as well try to get the best out of it and try to validate some options, so we will be working on that next.

Going outside I really don't believe in, not without a person dear to me who I can do something with, and local family - while nice and friendly - sadly don't fit that part due to the big difference in character and interests. I do enjoy sunlight, I notice how it makes me feel better, but I have disliked the general outside for my entire life with how there's nothing I really want to interact with. Even nature, while I do think it's beautiful, still to me just feels like watching paint dry. I'd like to be able to be with my best friends there, make memories, but they're overseas and it's not realistic. Perhaps something like vitamin supplements would be worth a try here? I have no experience with those and never seriously considered them precisely because of my paranoia regarding snake oil that I might not even be able to validate the supposed positive effect of.

TL;DR: I am aware a fully natural life would be better and I'd love to get there at some point, just right now I am content with going the easy way out for a lack of realistic ideas that wouldn't just make me feel worse.
Do not feel the need at all to respond in great detail, quick or at all, I mostly just wanted to explain! I also felt able to respond and wanted to take the opportunity, especially because I'm 90% sure you've blessed me with hugely informative walls of texts on various subjects before, some of which I have yet to reply to. Know that I read and appreciate every single one and that a lack of response is never meant negatively, just that I didn't have anything immediately worth responding with or am attempting to engage in a hobby.

>>7579
>One day you'll likely be able to go off of them or lower the dose.
Hopefully...

>>7580
I'm not sure which of the meds make feel blunted (probably the combination of all of them) and I don't feel comfortable telling my psychiatrist which ones I should take but thanks for the suggestion, though I'll talk about my lack of emotions during the next exam and see if I'll have my meds changed.

>>7548
I imagine part of it is a lack of quality protein. I can more or less tell how I'll be feeling for today by how much of it I've had these past few days. I'm sure there are other dietary factors but I've not figured it out.

>>7595
Would you like some of my quality protein?

>>7754
Sorry sir, I'd prefer to drink from a tap I wouldn't need an electronic microscope for...

>>7754
Yes please!

>>7754
There's probably health hazards that makes that counterproductive towards the goal of mental stability.

I'm not menhera because I'm plain desensitized human cattle that may only fail and envy as it watches countless people, even at their worst, managing things ranging from plain relaxation to grift, monetization, meditation, connection over their skills and talents and knowledge and creativity and luck, and just the base mindset I never ever seem to get close to.
There's only so much I can bruteforce and research and invent and ritualize to compensate for not having the existential that others got to gain naturally under environments I never got to be in. Something I don't have is required, and that's it, I'm just dumbfounded. Even actually mentally ill people mog me
I'm so cattle-like in complacency that I'm not even bothered like I feel I should be
I'd gladly sell my dignity, but it requires to be less retarded to actually get the payment

Ironic that I had badmouthed normalfags when I'm even more of a normalfag, in the worst way possible

>>7548
wyhenevr im sad ia think of 'i am eating
hamburgah
everyday
EVERYday!
'

>>7816
mig

being a BPD narcissist schizoid is tough but I'm trying my best to make my life better at the "expense" of making people's lives more difficult (outside of kissu)

>>7816
you are a mikufren
that makes you pretty good in my books

>>7548
Getting a talking cat familiar that replaces fitting parts of words with cat puns will fix me.

>>7548
mostly breathing exercises or pretend that im a normal person