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 No.73333

Is it wrong to lewd cgdt/iyashikei characters? What's your opinion? I personally don't do it.

 No.73336

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Not really. Sexuality is normal, but if you're referring to people who draw them with sadistic stuff then yeah I think that's wrong. I think the real world has enough ugliness in it. But at least they're doing it fictionally, I guess.

 No.73337

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They do it to themselves.

 No.73340

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I don't mind as long as it's KENZEN.

 No.73343

>>73340
>KENZEN
huh?

 No.73346

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>>73337
The K-ON manga is actually pretty lewd now that I think. They cut the ecchi stuff out in the adaptation.

 No.73349

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Hard not to when they do it to themselves

 No.73354

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>>73346
HER BUTT IS TALKING!

 No.73363

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I find Yoshinoya incredibly sexycute, and yet I could never fap to her or any of the other wides.

 No.73364

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But the yuyushikis on the other hand...

 No.73367

Depends on the show/characters.

 No.73369

Privately, no.
But I think that in threads dedicated to them, you should hold back, if for no other reason that the threads will otherwise devolve into pure horny-posting (given the lack of story substance to distract from anons' attractions to the girls).

 No.73425

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lewding akari is always wrong

 No.73427

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 No.73428

>>73369
>devolve into pure horny-posting
Par for the course for character threads.
But yeah, habitual hornyposting gets pretty stale. I never got the appeal of constant imagedumps and thinly veiled fetish threads.

 No.73429

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>>73427
You have probably seen your mom doing that pose before. Do you lewd her too?

 No.73430

It's not wrong.

 No.73451

>>73429
I don't because she's old and busted, but my dad lewded the fuck out of her when she was young and hot like Akari. I don't think he was wrong.

 No.73457

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How can you say you love her if you can't even lewd her dude

 No.73463

live
laugh
lewd

 No.73852

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Is it wrong to lewd the bocch?

 No.73853

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>>73852
No. The author herself does it.

 No.73854

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キタ───(゚∀゚)───!!

 No.73866

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After thinking about this more, I think there are different styles of cute. There's the cute that's dripping with moe, but also the 'regular' cute (still great) that leans into sexy territory and it's personality dependent. I think Sky Precure is a good example of having characters that are sexy-cute, or maybe ecchi-cute is the proper kissu term. Ageha heing the best example.

 No.73874

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Is this cute or too ecchi

 No.73875

>>73854
I was going to say the left one looks better, but then I realized the right one is causing her physical pain and that's super erotic.

 No.73876

>>73874
Not cute. It being "too ecchi" isn't the only thing wrong. The setting and pose implies a peeping tom has broken into her room and is watching her in a state of undress. All very out of character for an Atelier. Ecchi would be having fun with a bathing suit, relaxing at an onsen or trying different outfits. This is just kimo.

 No.73877

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>>73876
Could it not just be a typical walking in on her by accident as well? That's far more common in anime anyways.

Anyways I think it's really cute especially the pout.

 No.73878

>>73876
Are you nuts? it's very cute.

 No.73879

>>73877
Her expression is angry, not surprised. She is not currently un-dressing but fending off the peeper.
If you "accidentally" walk in on a girl changing and then refuse to leave, that excuse no longer flies.

 No.73880

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>>73874
Sophie is seen as sort of a transitional figure that lead to Ryza. She definitely leans into the sexy side with her design (and body, generally more curvy than other Ateliers) but she still has a cute personality.

>>73876
It's been a while, but I faintly remember a scene involving Sophie and Plachta that involved clothing. I might be blurring different stories together but I think I remember Plachta not understanding the whole modesty thing. Although, Sophie's alchemist outfit isn't exactly modest

 No.73881

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>>73880
wonder how this will look below that image heh

 No.73883

>>73879
Yeah, she's pouting. Which is cute. It's more like someone intimate walked in on her and stared rather than some stranger barging in.

 No.73886

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>>73866
>There's the cute that's dripping with moe, but also the 'regular' cute (still great) that leans into sexy territory and it's personality dependent
There is a third type which doesn't particularly fit into either of those though, which is where Aria belongs in I'd say. I'm not sure what to call it. Relaxing cute? Anyway, it's always iyashikei and it's independent of cgdt, but something can be both iyashikei and cgdt of course, like Yuru Camp, Akebi-chan (good example of a sexycute show), Non-Non Biyori and Hidamari.

 No.73887

puni cute...

 No.73888

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>>73887
That's porn that is too cute to be fappable.

 No.73896

>>73886
Akebi and NNB are not CGDCT. They do not feature any prominent hobby or activity. Hidamari is debatable.

 No.73922

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>>73896
CGDCT does not necessitate a focus on a hobby. The phrase originated as a descriptor for Ichigo Mashimaro, which has nothing of the sort.

 No.73924

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>>73896
I don't really agree with this definition, but if we say it's true then how would Akebi not count? Archery, fishing, photography, drawing, cooking, helping her cute sister, eating, swimming, shopping, dancing, piano, vacation, gymnastics, and having simple little adventures in a beautiful way. Akebi did a whole lot of cute things in only 12 episodes! AKEBI SUGOI!

 No.73926

>>73896
The only requirements of a CGDCT is cute girls and then doing cute things (one may argue that anything cute girls do is cute things).

 No.73935

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>>73896
>>73922
>>73924
>>73926
CGDCT is simply slice of life with moe as a focus and it also tends to be a comedy (just look at the "Holy Trinity" like K-ON, Yuru Yuri and Lucky Star, all comedies). It's not an actual genre. Iyashikei however, is a subgenre of the slice of life genre and focuses on 'healing' and relaxation and is more emotional and melancholic. Akebi is iyashikei with CGDCT elements. Hidamari is CGDCT with iyashikei elements. Non-Non Biyori I wold say it's an even mix of both.

 No.73937

>>73935
Define "actual genre".

 No.73938

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>>73935
Is that Hikage but as a dork nerd

 No.73940

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>>73937
Something which has an actual definition in Japanese in the case of anime/manga. "CGDCT" is something /a/ made up to describe moe-focused slice of life comedies, then it got picked up by other sites like MAL and and anilist later.

>>73938
She is an hentai character.

 No.73941

>>73940
The iyashikei 'genre' is just as much an /a/ invention. While it is a Japanese word, to the best of my knowledge it has never commonly been used as a genre term (and certainly not for emotional/melancholic series, as you define it) but instead just as a descriptor for wholesome cute things, somewhat close in meaning to moe.

 No.73942

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>>73941
In Japan it is used to describe a trend in entertainment while there is no such thing for "CGDCT":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iyashikei
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/癒やし
The EN wiki article gives a definition related to the genre found in entertainment while the JP one speaks of it in a more general sense (while still acknowledging iyashi-like entertaiment).
It's more of an actual concept than "CGDCT" at least. That one is completely made up by /a/ and doesn't have a wiki article at all.

 No.73943

>>73942
The JP Wiki does, however, mention CGDCT as being the coordinate English term for the kuuki-kei genre, which seems accurate enough to me.

 No.73944

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>>73943
It says there is no clear definition and is open to interpretation though, while iyashi media is easier to recognize. And as to why you should separate the two? Well, because iyashi doesn't need to involve cute girls at all. See Mushishi for example. It's just something meant to make you relax. And it can have serious aspects related to it while "kuuki-kei" or "CGDCT is devoid of it. It's just about the daily lives of young girls.

 No.73945

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Bob Ross is iyashikei.

 No.73946

>>73924
If we use that logic, literally every show with girls in it is CGDCT because they will do something at some point. It becomes meaningless, even if you limit it to SoL series. There is a clear distinction between the "group of girls take up a hobby" and normal slice of life stuff in that the former has a dual appeal, drawing in SoL fans with the cute girls and fans of the hobby with time spent regularly doing it. Having a way to separate out those shows from other SoL shows is just as useful as being able to separate out isekai from other fantasy shows.

Houkago Teibou goes fishing every week and they talk about equipment and techniques and preparation, because it's a CGDCT series.
Non Non Biyori goes fishing once in a while and they stand around chatting and listening to nature, because it's an iyashikei series.
Akebi goes fishing once and she shows off her feet and gets wet, because it's a tasteful ecchi series.

 No.73947

Always hated the meaninless term CGDCT. It sounds like something a hater of genre would invent to discredit it, even if it isn't, I've seen haters of the genre use it as a pejorative. Same with other made up /a/ terms like yuri bait. I simply use the umbrella term SoL or Iyashikei if I'm feeling bushido.

 No.73950

>>73940
>She is an hentai character.
Sometimes aren't meant to be known... Pushuun~ (。•́︿•̀。)

 No.73951

>>73947
I've seen people use "battle harem" as a pejorative. Should I just call those "romcoms".

 No.73952

>>73947
I am pretty sure that originally, it was a derogatory term. But haven't most fans accepted it as a descriptor by now?
Which is not to say that you should accept it. But while its borders are blurry, the same is true for every genre. I don't think a little confusion about what constitutes "cute things" should give you pause.

I mean, the way more important question is what makes a "cute girl", really.
Can office ladies be cute girls? What about fake-loli office ladies?

 No.73958

the big bang theory used to be a derogatory term
not the tv show i mean the actual theory that was in opposition to the steady state theory

 No.73959

>>73951
Romcoms with adventure elements yes.

 No.73960

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>>73947
>>73952
If they really wanted to be derogatory they would call it "moeshit" though.

 No.73962

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The archive started around that time, so it's hard to argue that there wouldn't be results for earlier periods, but the way the phrase isn't seem to be well established yet leads me to believe that this roughly marks the beginning. (the first time CGDCT appears on the archive is in 2010)
The appeal of the phrase seems to be primarily that it is highly descriptive and easy to understand. There are a variety of different uses here. From "I like this" over "I hate this" (though they are in the minority)
So, it seems that the word came into being to fill a niche, when anons lacked a word to describe what they saw.

 No.73963

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>>73962
/a/ was divided between people who liked Lucky Star and people who liked Gurren Lagann back then. Moe vs GAR. The fourth one who says "moeshit" is an "overrated shit" fan though (Monsterfag).

 No.73964

>>73962
it's wiiiild seeing people shittalk stuff like lucky star and saying it failed so confidently

 No.73965

>>73962
>nutbladder, etc
found the /qa/ postsr

 No.73967

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>>73962
>The archive started around that time
The old.sage.moe archive goes back a couple more years.

 No.73968

>>73962
Iinteresting read, reading the "origin" of CGDCT

 No.73970

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 No.73975

>>73970
Reminds me of how 16bit Sensation's vision of 'Americanized anime' focused on gritty edgy shit. It doesn't seem to come up much in English-language discussions on the topic, but they're not wrong that a substantial portion of the anime that over-performs in the West is of that sort.

 No.73976

>>73970
Still waiting for the adaptation of My Wife Is A Man.




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