>suggesting the polar opposite of what's truly behind it.
You mean misanthropes are really just hopeless romantics grown callous through continual disappointment by others? Because that sounds like me.

>>103936
That looks so cool, what's it from?

>>103945
@kameo_01 / メガロマリア

I think liking humanity as a concept is dumb, and likewise disliking humanity as a concept is dumb. We need to give up on the idea of species and kinds as unnecessary cultural baggage unsupported by casual observation of reality.

>>103957
Does this mean that you have zero opinions regarding anything that's an abstract category? I find that more than hard to believe, frankly.

>>103958
Any abstract category that's reliant on physical, malleable things like animals is bound to fail as a category if it's not defined in the loosest and most general terms possible. It's more coherent to care about whether these malleable things fit an arbitrary standard than it is to care about whether a species genuinely exists outside of that abstract category.
You can hold opinions about anything real and unreal. I hold many opinions on abstract categories.

>>103959
>bound to fail as a category
What does it mean to fail as a category?
>whether a species genuinely exists outside of that abstract category
I don't see the connection between this and anything that was said previously in the thread.
>You can hold opinions about anything real and unreal
But it's dumb to, sometimes?

>>103960
If a category meant to describe objects fails to describe objects, it fails at its intended task of existing as a category for objects.
>I don't see the connection between this and anything that was said previously in the thread
That's very simple. Humanity is a category of animals, so it's related because it's about the fundamental concept of the thread's topic.
>But it's dumb to, sometimes?
Why wouldn't it be?

>>103961
What are you saying fundamentally here? Are you saying that it's dumb to have an opinion on humanity because humanity is an untenable category? Did you cower in awe at seeing a plugged chicken? I don't think many people are struggling with this question in the modern era.

>>103963
It isn't related to chickens or finding errors in made up categories for things, it's about a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening when you dislike or like humanity, and the error in thinking your desire for what humanity should be and is as being in an ultimate sense an accurate description of the actual people those expectations and abstractions are based on. You're very literally minded so perhaps the jump from talking about abstractions into talking about what experiences make up the reasons for those abstractions is too large for you, but, then, I don't care.

>>103964
Well I think you're just a pseud so it evens out I guess.

>>103965
I'm not sorry for having something to say in relation to the thread's topic and it really doesn't matter whether you think it's... pseud.

>>103965
pseud is... a pseud term

>>103969
How I feelio when I deconstruct a deranged fetish to get rid of it out of my mind only to end up having another deranged fetish replace it

>>103972
Now that I think of it, the idea of things being repressions that manifest as different things is really bizarre and I don't know how Freud arrived to that idea.

>>103949
Thanks!

People may tend to end up really dehumanizing themselves and others, by quality and not by mere category. That's how you get the competitiveness virus that is misanthropy. It's ridiculous how many mental issues it creates, yet it's always something you can choose to be different!
Being vengeful and dehumanizing people is actually going more easy on people than they ever deserve! "Oh it can't be helped, they're not of human quality anywa-" Wrong! "They dehumanize, right? So they're not human eno-" Wrong! Don't be fooled so easily! Unconsciously or consciously, they keep the choice, and some stick to it even when they can easily choose a better alternative they know, anytime! They're self-destructive, but don't worry, there's always the most painful card you can play for no price whatsoever! It's "making things right"!

>>103978
In Denial of Death, Becker pointed out it was mostly due to stubborn generalizations of Freud's (rather half-baked, even if not completely useless as a result, if you ask me) introspection of own childhood, anxiety, and relationship to his family.

>>103982
I lean towards treating everyone with as much respect and care as I can out of fear of mistreating some quality of them that isn't immediately noticeable to me. In practice this just leads to being overly careful of who they are and can reach the extent of turning them into idols completely removed from their actual being. Sometimes a brick is just a brick, even if that brick also has the potential to be a building block for something more profound. It's actually harmful to that brick to think it can inherit from that potential since it isn't something that he alone can choose, and isn't even an innate quality of his. Whatever potential he can fulfill is reliant on his brickiness to begin with, and drawing out more from him is simply harmful. So, moving away from that idea of competition and comparisons, it's better to accept people as they are than it is to be upset that they're not up to standard, even when the standard bearer thinks it's what is best for him, that standard doesn't, and shouldn't, apply to him.
At least this thinking gives me enough breathing room to move on from trying to appeal to or find the impossible.

Antisocial is another misnomer but what it describes is a good thing.