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 No.124630

How do you guys find good japanese music? I personally have 2 ways:
1) going on bandcamp, looking up an album I like, and clicking on supporters of the album and peruse their collections (and then maybe buying or nabbing them with soulseek)
2) finding music on doujinstyle (I miss the fuck out of dojin.co from years ago, but this is the best alternative to that)
One thing is for sure is that I refuse to use streaming services to find music I like

 No.124635

You could browse collages on jpopsuki or redacted. You could traverse someone's collection on soulseek.

 No.124636

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I don't really discover much new music anymore outside of what gets posted here or gets played on r/a/dio and Gensokyo Radio. I used to frequent the denpa thread on 4/jp/ and found good denpa artists there, but those threads stopped being made a while ago.

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 No.124644

>>124630
>One thing is for sure is that I refuse to use streaming services to find music I like
Well that is my answer, you'd be surprised by how much music I've found purely by algorithm recommendations on either spotify or youtube.

 No.124646

Before the days of "my youtube recs are my personality" it was just via Nip media. You'd watch a film and you'd know who Yura Yura Teikoku are or an anime and you'd know who Meiko Nakahara was. Then you could look them up on Nip Wikipedia and find all their stuff, related acts, etc. That one song would be a foot in the door to find dozens upon dozens.

Now I'm old and lazy and I eat the algo slop. But even that only works when you've fed them enough things you already know, manually searched for, for them to infer taste so I guess you still have to grind first.

 No.124654

>>124630
manually grinding through YouTube. write favorite sub sub subgenre names and add "japanese".

 No.124655

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These days its almost entirely through anime OPs and even that, rarely. Last time I actively looked it was by the denpa genre and the other time I searched by author, but I haven't actively looked for new music in a very long time, I've picked up susumu hirasawa's massive backlog and most of the ar tonelico franchise's songs so I'm at the point where I don't have the mental space for more music.
I just checked and apparently if I put all of the albums I have stored in a single playlist I'd 15 and a half days worth of music to play through non stop. Granted a lot of it hasn't been curated and most albums have only like one or two songs that I care to listen to (I seed like a good boy (and too lazy to curate)), so I'd wager almost a third of it is stuff I haven't even listened to once.
i guess I just don't like music all that much

 No.124657

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I have the TLMC on my desktop PC, so I just listen to Touhou stuff. Finding new music comes organically, as I look up the labels of artists doing collabs with the circles I already listen to. Sometimes I'll stumble on an old MV or an MMD video with cool songs in the background and go through that artist's entire discography. Having it all in one place is just super convenient.

For non-Touhou music, it's all songs that catch my ear while browsing imageboards or that I randomly acquire while looking for other stuff. Anime openings, OSTs and such.

 No.124678

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>>124630
¥play a new vidya game
¥look up the OST when I'm done

 No.124696

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I used to lurk in the 4/jp/ event upload threads (M3, Comiket, Reisaitai), listen to crossfades and download anything I found interesting. I really miss doing that and found I haven't engaged with doujin music as much since they faded away. Now, I read websites about the subject but they're not really doujin related.
https://avyss-magazine.com/ for general, from Japan but also has international artists. Quite a youth focus so expect some irredeemable cloudrap and whatnot. They recently released a pair of albums, the first of which I've been enjoying.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nnOwKY94OCdrjLCRamvyAnrPdrpWqy3nU
https://www.sleep-like-a-pillow.com/ for shoegaze etc
https://tokyodross.blogspot.com/ Western journalist living in Japan, maintains a blog about live performances but tends to be less about emerging bands. He also writes about movies and TV for conventional news websites

Unfortunately as the others have said algorithms can sometimes offer good recommendations. Jpopsuki and Soulseek are good sources too as mentioned above; the chatrooms in Soulseek sometimes have people interested in discussing music or uploading specific requests from others.

 No.124702

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Why does it have to be Japanese? Good music is just good music, right? Unless there are vocals involved or it's something like a folk song with specific national instruments, it really shouldn't make a difference where it's produced.

 No.124703

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I wouldn't know. I fell into the cliche of getting older and no longer looking for music. It's kinda weird how that happens, when you're younger when you want music everywhere but then when older it's just kinda meh.
I used to just browse FTPs for video game music and I have a rule where I don't listen to VGM or anime music if I haven't experienced the source material myself so it's a limiting factor.
There used to be some internet radio stations around for video game and anime music, but that stuff is mostly instrumental I think so it's not what most people are into.

 No.124706

>>124703
>I have a rule where I don't listen to VGM or anime music if I haven't experienced the source material myself so it's a limiting factor.
Funny, thought I was the only one who did this. Kinda glad that's not the case.

 No.124711

>>124703
>>124706
>I have a rule where I don't listen to VGM or anime music if I haven't experienced the source material myself so it's a limiting factor.
I do this too but every once in a while I'll check out a song that catches my interest and I've found some of my favorite games doing that

 No.124715

I look at other artists based on the collaborations they did and keep branching out. Sometimes I find something pretty good. Other times, word of mouth and very occasionally RYM solely because it's pretty easy to filter for whatever you want and get a best of list thrown back at you. Almost everybody that I listen to today was through one of these methods.

Speaking of word of mouth, Lain told me about this band a couple years ago so I'll pass it along here. People who listen to jap shoegaze probably already know about it but it's a fucking phenomenal album

 No.124719

>>124630
music databases like discogs, rateyourmusic, or vgmdb
collages on torrent trackers like redacted or jpopsuki
music listening trackers like lastfm

 No.124720

>>124719
oh, also youtube channels of course

 No.124722

>>124702
>Why does it have to be Japanese?
>it really shouldn't make a difference where it's produced.
Well, for one thing, this is /jp/ and so this is the place to ask such questions.

But, more than that, I think you're misinterpreting OP's intent. He could just be asking because he already has an easy enough way of sourcing western music, but doesn't yet have a foothold in Japanese music. That's understandable enough -- it's the 2nd largest music market in the world and even they have a hard time indexing everything that gets made (short-lived idol groups, doujin music, vocaloids, and the use of special symbols in song titles can make searching for songs a real headache). It's going to be even harder if you aren't already immersed in it and don't already speak the language. It's hard to know where to even start, what do you even search for, how do you find anything you like?

 No.124724

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>>124722
>I think you're misinterpreting OP's intent.
Nah, I wasn't assuming anything about OP's intent in particular, really, so this isn't about him in specific, but his question did remind me of people who think like that so I thought I'd ask. I get people who are mostly into otaku media, but I often get the feeling that people use that as an excuse to dismiss quality media that could've easily have been made in Japan but just-so-happens not to be, and that has always irked me a little. Like, at that point it becomes less about you liking the music for being Japanese and more about the fact that you like it because it says it was made in Japan, right? But then again, if you truly like it for the former, then what does it mean for a song to "be Japanese", sound-wise? Aside from obvious stuff like Japanese vocals and instruments. What's the point in bringing nationalities into it? If it sounds good it sounds good.
>He could just be asking because he already has an easy enough way of sourcing western music, but doesn't yet have a foothold in Japanese music.
This and the other reasons you listed out are good excuses but I can't help but feel like they're the exception rather than the norm.

 No.124737

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>>124630
Once a year, I listen to crossfades of every album uploaded on doujinstyle from every event in the past year. It takes a while but it's worth it.
Otherwise, I follow individual artists on youtube and some album upload channels like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDL_hxPH40
Sometimes I also get osts that I liked or randomly browse vk/doujinmusic and grab anything that looks interesting.

 No.124744

>>124737
That's a really good channel, I discovered this album a while ago thanks to it.

 No.124755

>>124696
Picture of complete mystery. Two girls? Mismatched legwear? Obviously, the legwear is recently worn, but not for long, it's clean.

 No.124760

>>124703
>I fell into the cliche of getting older and no longer looking for music. It's kinda weird how that happens, when you're younger when you want music everywhere but then when older it's just kinda meh.
Could someone explain this please? I've had this observation for quite some time – people above the age of 40 seem to stop caring about music and, like, they never just sit down and intentionally listen to music for the sake of it and I don't get why. Older people do still care for art in general, right? So what's up with music then, is it supposed to be a form of entertainment that only appeals to teens

 No.124761

>>124760
The stereotype that old people listen to classical music is alive and well.

 No.124762

>>124760
after 40 you kinda stop caring about everything

 No.124763

>>124760
This can only be answered with biases

 No.124772

>>124762
i love you

 No.124775

>>124760
Diminishing returns maybe? After you find a while it gets harder and harder to find something that tops the previous thing. It starts with whole genre, then artists, then it boils down to individual songs until nothing really feels as exciting.

 No.124783

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>>124760
I couldn't really tell you; it just happens. I think it might be a loss of novelty. The older you get, the more something has to be different to get a response from your brain and it's not like people are inventing new sounds. Babies can get by on basic lullabies. I guess you just subconsciously compare things to the thousands of songs you've heard before. I think that's why music tied to interesting visuals (music videos) or stories (video games, anime) are still enjoyable to me but everything else is just a grey sludge.
There's also the thing where people largely identify with the music that listened to as a teenager and it becomes part of their identity, so music from later generations doesn't really sync that well. My main music was VGM back then, but I still feel attachment to the bands back then because those songs were pretty good.

 No.124784

>>124630
Spotify

rec kinokoteikoku

 No.124790

>>124775
>>124783
Well... before i talk about all the other stuff you've mentioned, don't you think if what you're saying was the real reason for this, it would apply to movies and whatnot? Old people have seen thousands of movies throughout their lives yet it's not like they don't keep watching the adam sandler stuff as it's coming out. there's no denying people are into movies well into their seventies (but from there on i feel like all they do is gardening) so if you do agree with me on this, don't you think it's odd that with music this isn't the case? I'm thirty myself and while you've mentioned you're mostly into music that's part of other media, i still actively try to discover new bands and can genuinely enjoy the songs on their own merits and it's bugging me because maybe it means im immature for this?????

 No.124792

>>124790
>I'm thirty myself and while you've mentioned you're mostly into music that's part of other media, i still actively try to discover new bands and can genuinely enjoy the songs on their own merits and it's bugging me because maybe it means im immature for this?????
> all one sentence
Anon-kun (30 y/o) is so moe~

 No.124793

>>124792
oh no......

 No.124801

>>124790
There's probably a subgroup of older people who still actively search for and listen to music, you'd probably find them in the audiophile spaces.
Movies are multimedia and you can just space out looking at the screen without feeling like you're looking at nothing so there's probably less mental load overall for people who are just barely still into the hobby (if you can still call it that).

the big divider here is whether it's something you do as a hobby you actively enjoy or if it's just something you do as entertainment to pass the time.
With the latter, you don't really need to actively look for music since it plays basically everywhere anyway, meanwhile with movies you can turn on the screen and search for whatever and let it play. I guess with music you're "obligated" to focus on hearing if it's just music playing, and if you stop paying attention you miss parts of it which makes for an unpleasant experience, but with movies you can essentially pass out for most of it and still feel like you're following.

 No.124807

>>124801
Maybe you're right

 No.124873

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 No.124895

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>>124724
>I get people who are mostly into otaku media, but I often get the feeling that people use that as an excuse to dismiss quality media that could've easily have been made in Japan but just-so-happens not to be, and that has always irked me a little.
OP here, I don't have an issue with non japanese music (in fact, probably half of all of my music is not japanese). I DO however have an issue with most popular music. There is far too much popular music that sounds too similar to other popular music and that's because most hit songs in the west (especially America) are written by a small hand full of people. That comes down to marketing and writing songs in an assembly line. The majority of popular music is nothing more than corporate trash to me. That is why I avoid algorithms

 No.124896

>>124895
Yeah, I agree with you. I disregard most trending songs nowadays too and pretty much anything pop. I'm not sure if what I'm about to talk about is included in what you were implying when you said "popular music", but there are a lot of popular songs from the 70s-2000s that are still good though, but I guess back then you didn't really have as much of a fast food-esque music industry as you do now, so they were popular for a reason.

 No.124956

>>124873
Heh, I forgot about these guys. Thanks for reminding me of them

 No.124958

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>>124956
You are welcome. Ever heard of Nengu before? What other genres do you listen to besides post rock? Your favorite album?
https://nengu.bandcamp.com/album/pongyaron
https://feckingbahamas.bandcamp.com/track/beautiful-die

 No.124991

>>124958
I listen to a lot but I lean more towards noise rock and metal adjacent stuff. I like my really poppy vocaloid stuff just as much.
Favorite album is Boris's Flood. Droney and then it explodes into really loud and devastating doom metal. The live one I linked is way more approachable than the studio album and better since its half as long
The band itself is absolutely horrible to get into because they just kinda do whatever they feel like at the time but I'm not afraid to fangirl them.

>https://nengu.bandcamp.com/album/pongyaron
Haven't heard of em before but that was a fun album. Their sound kinda reminds me of the Dregs like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io6d_q9kYGA or maybe Number Girl, neither of which do the electronic stuff these guys do but both have the same sort of energy. I'll check out some more of their other stuff later




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