No.105834
*kills you*
heh, owned that nerd
No.105839
>>105835I have never been to a funeral or lost a family member (that's important to me) and I don't see that happening in the next 10 years. It's baffling to see grown men be sentimental over their parents being dead but I'm not in their shoes so I can't say I know better. I'm just a manchild crying over fictional stories.
No.105842
>>105839>I'm just a manchild crying over fictional stories.Oh, maybe I misread the thread...
So you DO understand! Deaths in stories often feel a bit too exploitive and forced except in certain settings so I'm not particularly a fan. If an episode story can make you cry teares of happiness or relief I think it's a greater act of creation than relying on death.
No.105843
>>105842I was talking about real deaths and comparing their impact on the soul with the impact of witnessing a touching story ending. Which makes sense if I take into account that I spend dozens of hours on that media and few realtime minutes with real people before they are gone (and they were old and ill). If somebody is a dog owner, they will probably say a dog's death is sadder than hearing about a deceased relative.
No.105847
>>105833It's not tragic at all if you get isekai'd and a harem of SHABs awaits
No.105848
>>105847I'm scared it's like a lottery where you have to die over and over again until you get a good setting.
No.105854
>>105833You could read Becker's Denial of Death if you're really interested.
But the real answer is that the dead can't pay taxes and can't socially validate other people.
And that's just.
Like.
WORST. THING. EVER.But once we develop sophisticated anthronecrobotics and start animating the dead bodies via LLMs, we will suffer from negatives of death no more...
No.105855
>>105854I sure hope I don't get reanimated by a LLM after I'm dead.
No.105856
It's the end of experience and the route into the empirically unknowable that we all will eventually succumb to, so it's pretty bad.
No.105857
>>105833I dont care about those millions of millions of people I dont know them
I'm sad whenever a pet dies
No.105859
>>105833Not sure if this is the right board for this topic but recently my heart had stopped and I was revived at a hospital so I can give a personal account how it feels like to die.
At first you won't know what's happening to you. Your muscles twitch and contract, and you feel very uncomfortable and scared. You try to say something but nothing will come out of your mouth.
Then you realize what's happening. First, your vision blurs, and gives out to complete darkness. Next, the sounds around you are muffled out and eventually turn into complete silence. Then the sensations, your fingers feel numb and won't register a touch anymore. At the final stage, darkness envelops you, but it's gentle. You feel like you are in a lukewarm water tank and it's very comforting and relaxing. At the final stage, all that is that you can feel is a speck of heat in your chest, like a small candle fire glimmering in the void. Then the fire goes out. You become nothing.
All I can remember after that is waking up in a hospital bed. After that near death experience, I am of the opinion that dying is not as scary as people make it out to be. It might be painful for your loved ones, but it won't be for you, depending on how you died.
No.105860
>>105859>You become nothing.This is the scariest part of death for me, I'd much rather live suffering than cease existing.
No.105861
>>105859That is super interesting, thank you very much for sharing. I assume the heart shutting down also means that any potential panic won't even have the time to become unbearable? I haven't had anything close to a near death experience yet, just "new situations" where something was suddenly unnaturally wrong with my body and the utter fear and panic always were the absolute worst.
I'm also very sorry to hear you had to go through that. What happened that your heart suddenly stopped?
No.105867
>>105859>recently I'm glad you survived!
Are you feeling better? Sounds like quite a health scare, or maybe not a scare from how you sound. It does seem to fit the pattern of people who have that kind of experience, they all generally lose their fear of it and sometimes even have a strong personality shift.
No.105887
>>105859>At first you won't know what's happening to you. Your muscles twitch and contract, and you feel very uncomfortable and scared. You try to say something but nothing will come out of your mouth. had this when I thought I'm having painful heart palpitations but it turned out I just had torn my left pec a bit too much, that even breathing too suddenly gave the cramps. interesting.
No.105889
People die when they are killed
No.105908
>>105859As a hypochondriac whose father and grandfather both died of heart failure and who called the doctor twice because I thought random chest pains meant it was my turn, this is honestly pretty comforting.
I'm glad you survived, but I'm also glad to hear that not surviving might not be as bad as it's made out to be.
No.105949
>>105859How was it that you ended up at the hospital, if you don't mind my asking? One of my great fears is having sometime terrible happen to me, but because I live alone, no one will be there to rescue me...
No.105959
Lotsa big talk for a buncha people who are still alive in here
No.105960
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Can we just... you know... not die?
No.105962
At least you can talk. Who are you?
No.105968
The concept of death was invented in the Abrahamic religions. Before then, no one thought that life ends there.
No.105984
>>105968You're factually wrong, but in a good way, that could be technically correct
No.106073
>>105960What would be the point of that? An eternity of pain and suffering?
No.106076
>>106073Obviously if you body just kept aging until you became a pain ridden, soulless husk it wouldn't be any fun, but what about if you could stay in the prime of your youth and didn't age and couldn't get sick or anything like that? Wouldn't that be really cool?
You could spend any amount of time you want to go anywhere, do anything, learn any skill, read every book, play any game... and you'd still have so much time left to do even more!
No.106077
>>106073>>106076I'd prefer the cool cyborg body option
That one seems more realistic too
No.106078
I'd prefer an oppai loli body.
No.106082
>>106077Yeah, that could be a good way on how you could obtain a body like that.
You could just replace parts of your original human body as needed, and even change them to your liking with whatever extra features you want, and eventually you might even be able to ship of theseus yourself into the perfect body of your choice. Where you can just replace parts as needed to keep going. It probably wouldn't be true eternity, but you could probably live for a very, very long time this way...
>>106078Becoming the anime girl of your dreams...
No.106091
>>106082>Becoming the anime girl of your dreams...With cute feet too
No.106093
>>106076I would love a few hundred more years of lifespan but anything more than that would probably get boring and then agonizing. Also, what if humanity/life goes extinct? Just hang out on a big empty rock forever?
>>106091>>106082>With cute feet tooand a giant futa cock
No.106094
>>106093>and a giant futa cockThere is such a thing as overdoing it
No.106098
>>106076But are you fine with doing chores everyday, brushing your teeth, commuting and other pointless stuff? And the potential to fuck up to be a bad learner, being bad in all disciplines.
No.106107
>>106091Absolutely! I mean what's the point if it isn't cute?
>>106093>Also, what if humanity/life goes extinct? Just hang out on a big empty rock forever?I... probably shouldn't answer my true feelings on this one...
>and a giant futa cockI wouldn't mind having a small cute one personally... but why limit yourself to just one type? Robotic modularity means you make different ones of whatever shape and form you want!
>>106098>But are you fine with doing chores everydayI mean, i already have to do all that stuff now. But with a long lifespan, the time spent doing chores would matter much less. If you go the robot body route, you might even be able to optimize away most of that anyway.
>And the potential to fuck up to be a bad learner, being bad in all disciplines.I probably would be pretty bad at most things, but that's part of what makes life fun! To experiment. To try and see what works and what doesn't.
No.106110
>>105833It's less death that's tragic than loss. Loss is the real pain point. Death exemplifies loss taken to an extreme but they are not the same thing.
Death is a transition, a state change. But in the process you
lose so death seems sad, but what's sad is the loss.
Death wouldn't be so bad if say you could contact the dead via a phone or a video call. It would be no different than moving to a different place. However we are kept in ignorance of "the other place" or if an "other place" even exists.
This is why eventually some conclude that death is not a bad thing after all (ruh roh) because the ideas we are fed of death are divorced from what it is. We still don't know what it is of course but at least we know it isn't whatever they try to tell us it is.
Questioning death is like when the light bulb fell from the sky in the Truman Show.
For example we call death the end of the body's processes then what does that really mean? Ok, the body stops working as intended, but then what is life? Movement?
No.106127
>>106110Mourning hits really hard over time.
No.106154
>>106078>>106082By the way, I heard (I think from Utopia Show) that theoretically it’s possible to replace the brain piece by piece with an artificial one. If there isn’t some part without which the brain can’t survive even a second, then this is quite possible. You would also just need to replace the entire hormonal and neurotransmitter system with an artificial one, maybe even remove some things.
Personally, I would like to have an anime loli body in the style of Rozen Maiden. I want to return to childhood again, I want to be considered cute, I want to be a girl (or not have genitals at all).
No.106163
>>106110That's a good point. I probably wouldn't fear death if i knew i wasn't going to lose my ability to do anything at all forever. Maybe there is something after death, but the thought that it might just be nonexistence after death forever and ever is what keeps me up at night dreaming about living forever, or at least for a very long time.
>>106154>theoretically it’s possible to replace the brain piece by piece with an artificial one.I'm very curious how it would feel, to have your brain replaced piece by piece. Or maybe it would be so small changes that you wouldn't even notice. Oh, if only the technology would progress so far in my lifetime that it would be possible to do this...
>You would also just need to replace the entire hormonal and neurotransmitter system with an artificial one, maybe even remove some things.I have no idea how it would actually work, but i'd guess all the body and brain signals would be replaced by some kind of electrical one. Maybe even be able to modify the intensity of different signals.
>I would like to have an anime loli body in the style of Rozen Maiden.I really need to watch that anime someday... but aren't those girl like actually "doll sized"? Would you want to have small body like that then, or still be human sized?
Either way, sounds really cute! I probably would like a body like that too, but with twintails, cat ears and cat paws!
No.106167
>>106163>theoretically it’s possible to replace the brain piece by piece with an artificial one.>I'm very curious how it would feel, to have your brain replaced piece by piece. Or maybe it would be so small changes that you wouldn't even notice. Oh, if only the technology would progress so far in my lifetime that it would be possible to do this...>You would also just need to replace the entire hormonal and neurotransmitter system with an artificial one, maybe even remove some things.>I have no idea how it would actually work, but i'd guess all the body and brain signals would be replaced by some kind of electrical one. Maybe even be able to modify the intensity of different signals.NTA but read up on Orch-OR, artificial growing microtubule structures, microtubule quantum computers.
The perfect approach is integration and replacement is metabolical one. Your brain had been renewed on a cellular level multiple times thorough your life so far. You didn't really notice when the last of the first brain cells batch got replaced, didn't you? The secret sauce is in the frequency in itself, and, speculatively by me, frequency patterns.
No.106212
>>106154> from Utopia Showhttps://youtu.be/uwe29oiCTvk?si=y-XFSyCgzoq-fp8c15:28
This is the video I was talking about and the timecode if you need it.
>>106163> would be replaced by some kind of electrical one.That’s already how it works. Electrical signals travel within neurons, but communication between neurons usually happens chemically via neurotransmitters like glutamate.
> but aren't those girl like actually "doll sized"? Would you want to have small body like that then, or still be human sized?I want to be doll-sized. People would see me as cute or even like a child, carry me in their arms, and so on
(I am fatherless, and I need to fill that emptiness with something.) No.106503
>>106167It's definitively an interesting idea if it can be done that way, just slowly replacing it on a cellular level, so that you might not even realize it at all until you wake up one day and it's just simply all replaced...
>>106212Very cute! Let's hope that one day in the future we might be able to live with the body of our dreams.
No.106607
>>105833I hate saying it in such a condescending way, but you'll understand when you're older.
No.106638
>>106607approximately how old do i have to get
No.106650
>>106607>you'll understand when you're older.What if my mental age doesn't correlate with my physical age?
No.106661
>>106658Let's ra
ise her!!!