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 No.2181[View All]

Once again providing a place for you to post any random thoughts you might have.
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 No.2297

>>2296
It has a lot of synonyms, sure.
I can't find the quote right now, but I read about a Sanskrit teacher making his students write "the horse pulls the cart" in twenty different ways. That is true flexibility.

 No.2298

>>2295
I disagree, bastardization is quite a good way to describe it, I would not say their isn't much difference between formal and colloquial Eglish either, you are going to see stark differences between academic work or even novels and what you will find on imageboards and YouTube.

 No.2299

>>2298
My argument is two-fold: on the one hand, there is no such thing as a bastardized natural language. Things come and go, they don't develop linearly, and it's impossible for something like Ithkuil to exist because its complexity would make it too unstable and impractical. On the other, it's possible to nurture a certain kind of speech and refine it into an elaborate tool with which to build great things, however, the degree to which English does this is exponentially lower than that of the Indosphere, Sinosphere, or Romance-speaking world. Compared to their academic tradition, English writing style is vulgar and lacking in refinement.
In short, people freak out over trivial problems and cry about the downfall of a language that's already fallen. You should've seen people complaining about the loss of "thou", now THAT was a important change, but no native speaker today understands why its loss would be a problem.

 No.2300

>>2299
There is such a thing as bastardization of natural language or anything natural really. Whether somebody views it as bastardised or not is subjective, it depends on whether they feel that new additions to that language are degrading it or not, I do feel that they are.

I disagree that these issues are trivial as well or that the language has already fallen and therefore everything that happens further to it is fine.

 No.2301

I don't really like kids, but I have to pretend or at least not show that. I take care of my nieces and nephew at least a couple of times per month, and I honestly don't like doing it, but I want to help out my sisters. But I guess I can't be a part of their lives on my own terms and wait for them to grow up so I can have actual conversations with them, I have to be there from the start. Life is tough. At least they all really like Sailor Moon. I wonder if any of them will be weebs when they grow up. Both of my sisters are, and one of my brothers in law is, so my guess is yes. This ended up being me venting rather than a random thought. Sorry about that.

 No.2302

vents are the most pure of random thoughts

 No.2303

>>2300
The case of "literally" is a trivial matter because it has happened literally thousands of times. Take the case of "very": that shit actually used to mean "true", it ultimately has the same root as the Latin veritas. Through an identical development, it also turned into an intensifier. Would you say that people have been using the word wrong these last few centuries? Does that matter, in the long run? The answer to both of those is a resounding no. You can still use words like "actual", "really", "seriously" to get an identical result. I myself am partial to actual.
I'm not talking about whether I like it or not, I think it's stupid and I don't cheer for it, but it's predictable, it has a millenary precedent, and is easy to work around. In the small and great scheme of things, it's not very relevant and complaining about it is petty. It's no one's death if a single word changes meaning.

Now, it's possible for things to be lost, and for that to be a bad thing, but English doesn't have the level of refinement that would warrant the public outrage that these dumb small changes attract. They're complaints made by people who know neither other tongues nor the history of theirs, who typically think new developments like singular they are bad, even though the distinction it sets up in terms of animacy enriches the language. I'm not saying everything is justified, but that crying wolf over a language with so little sophistication in its writing is silly.

 No.2304

>>2301
I don't really like babies because they don't really do anything but cry and they look weird but after 2 years old they are all right.
Though if they are not raised well they can be an issue as they get older, such as my uncles 11 year old talking abut race wars and 'alternative history' or something like that.

 No.2305

>>2304
I seriously fear for the generation under Z

 No.2306

>>2301
>At least they all really like Sailor Moon.
That's not a good thing.

 No.2308

>>2303
It's not just one word.
What you are talking about happened over a long time and could also be attributed to adopting a world from another language which often tends to change the meaning of that word but anyway just because it has happened in the past does not mean it should continue to happen particularly not to the degree that it is and in the manner that it is.

I would not say your language is anywhere near as bad as that of others but you are still saying things like 'that shit actually used to mean' and 'who like to pull a fedora and pretend they have an enlightened, objective view of the world'.
This is an example of what is happening to our language but as I said, still nowhere near as bad as other places.

>I'm not talking about whether I like it or not,

verb
verb: bastardise

1.
change (something) in such a way as to lower its quality or value, typically by adding new elements.
"our biggest fear was they were going to take our script and bastardize it"

By definition you kind of are, to bastardise something is to wake it worse. This is subjective, I subjectively think that the use of fedora in the manner that you did makes the language worse and is an example of bastardisation of the language. But you clearly would not think this as you did it.

>but that crying wolf over a language with so little sophistication in its writing is silly.
And the reason it has little sophistication is because of the myriad of people using phrases like 'that shit actually used to mean' and 'who like to pull a fedora and pretend they have an enlightened, objective view of the world'.
Maybe that was to harsh but you can understand what I mean. Much of this lack of sophistication is due to the manner in which the language is used and the changes that are happening to it only make this worse.

 No.2309

>>2304
Weirdly enough, I would rather hang out with a baby over a toddler or an infant or whatever that age group is. If they're a baby, I can at least do some arbitrary thing that will keep the baby from crying at least (hopefully). For my dislike of kids, it's most certainly a personal problem, I just don't know how to relate to kids. I'm trying to think back to the stuff I liked at their age to show them or interact with them, but they don't care about it. Also, I don't want to just tell them to watch TV or whatever when they are full of energy, so I try to play with them. But on the same token, it's boring for me because I don't really give a shit to see the same Hot Wheels car go on the same track for the 30th time. I just suck it up and pretend it's cool every time they do it. I know they aren't my kids, but I try to at least show them my hobbies to see if they will like them. One of my nephews seems to really like messing around with my guitars, but then the other one started using it as part of car track because it makes noise when the car hits the strings. Part of me is annoyed when it happens, but I know I can just replace the strings, and not the time I spend with my nephews.
>>2306
Why's that? Sailor Moon is a classic.

 No.2310

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>>2304
>11 year old talking abut race wars and 'alternative history'
That's a good thing! They're getting through that phase as kids instead of falling into the trap as adults! Society will be saved as they memory-hole politics into the dark corners of their mind as an embarassing phase they went through as early as their teenaged years now!

 No.2312

>>2309
I get what you mean. I live with my 2 year old nephew but I don't look after him so I don't have to entertain him, he'll bring a ball or a car to me sometimes and I will play with him but I don't have to do it for long and I would get quite bored if I did.
I think there are just some people that like that kind of repetitive thing, like people that enjoy kicking footballs to each other. I can't understand how that is fun even though I used to play soccer and I liked playing it but I get bored of just kicking a ball to another person back and forth quite quickly.

>>2310
Somehow I don't think that will happen... I think he would have to have a falling out with his father and find friends that were against those views but I don't see it happening.

 No.2313

>>2308
Listen, if you're interested in learning about language change, then I recommend reading pic. It's one of the first linguistics texts I ever read and it's very approachable, fun even. I don't remember what it exactly covers, but I do remember that it's great stuff. I seriously, seriously recommend it.

 No.2314

>>2313
It could be interesting but I find it hard to read lengthy texts on screens. It's available on Book Depository though so I will add it to the other books I have to get through.

 No.2315

>>2312
>but I get bored of just kicking a ball to another person back and forth quite quickly.
They're just trying to get better at passing and footwork, its not really for fun

 No.2319

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Static content on Nyaa refuses to load on some Nordic ISPs now (mine included).

 No.2321

>>2319
That's why I have a proxy. Australia blocked Nyaa completely.

 No.2322

>>2319
>>2321
There's also the qBit search plugin:
https://github.com/qbittorrent/search-plugins/wiki/Unofficial-search-plugins
It's not as good, but it gets the job done.

 No.2323

>>2321
I have a VPN so it's not much of a problem for me, just a minor inconvenience.

What I find weird is that if this is the ISPs trying to screw us over, then why didn't they block the whole site? Nyaa does eventually load with plain text, and Sukebei is unaffacted.

 No.2326

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Sometimes I have ideas that seem quite simple yet revolutionary at the same time and I wonder if I should patent them. But that's probably too hard and these ideas have surely been patented or tried out already I just don't know about it. Maybe I should email the military and ask them if they know about it but then they will steal my ideas and won;t pay me for it.

 No.2327

i got a new humidifier today

 No.2329

what if there was a sports anime set in Japan with one important cultural difference, which is that at the beginning of a match, all the girls take their mouthguards from a communal bucket and at the end of the match they spit their mouthguards back into the bucket for the next team to use

 No.2330

>>2329
do the mouthguards get washed between uses?

 No.2331


 No.2332

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>>2331
i-i-i-i-indirect k-k-kissu?!?!

 No.2334

>>2329
You are supposed to mould mouth guards to the individual so it would not work.

 No.2335

i visited my cousin today and his dog has no hair on his back for some reason, but his legs, neck, head, and butt area all have hair. what's with that? i thought it was weird. he is a good dog though, but he looks ridiculous lol

 No.2337

>>2336
no not that kind of mould!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 No.2339

>>2334
hate reality getting in the way

 No.2345

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Please use this thread for thinking thoughts and not blogging!

 No.2346

hatehatehatehate it when good songs are way too short.

 No.2352

I don't know why so many architects take themselves so seriously. Like you'll see them talk about it as if it's this grand philosophical thing, when really it's just a freaking building. And a lot of them are really ideological about it too, where if it were up to them, every building on earth would be built according to what they consider the "correct" way of doing things.

I feel like I sound like a lunatic complaining about this, because if you don't actively follow architecture you probably don't even know any of this nonsense exists. But I do follow architecture, and I can tell you this stuff is way more of a thing than it should be.

 No.2353

>>2352
I understand what you are talking about.

I think a large part of it is done to justify what they are doing in the first place, given how damaging the industry is to the environment.
But yes, I think it silly. Not only that but they are often spending millions of dollars on a permanent structure yet the architects are chasing temporary fads that are probably going to become unfashionable at best and unusable at worst in the near future. Like Apples giant circle headquarters, it was build with open office spaces which the more technical departments hated and could not concentrate in so they had to build a new structure nearby of a standard office layout anyway. This open, market square, flow of ideas, mingling of people design idea seems to be common in many places these days.

 No.2354

And also another issue would be the standard mentality that plagues modern art and would have a crossover into architecture.

 No.2355

>>2354
I've seen it with modern classical people too, so it's not just a modern art thing...

...Actually, maybe it is. The new traditional movement is in part a spinoff of the postmodern movement, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's where they got their mindeset from. I can't imagine revivalists of the past having such a bad attitude.

 No.2356

>>2281
I just can't accept that anyone is really named jevin
stop messing with me man

 No.2357

>>2352
that granite countertop really throws a lot of pink into the space

 No.2358

>>2357
Indeed. The built environment has a greater sense of wholeness as a result.

 No.2424

to the blog thread haters: do you also hate "random thoughts threads"?

 No.2425

"random thoughts" threads, I meant to say

 No.2426

they are simply a cultural norm of modern imageboards because of the lower user count, take it or leave it

 No.2427

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I loathe the 'random thoughts' thread. The blog thread is tolerable with an artificial bump limiter on it (that seems to malfunction now and then).
People will take the path of least resistance and that is to make all their posts inside one mega thread. This is a "for your own good" situation where it can't be allowed to fester and grow.
Instead, I think people should continue to use kissu as an imageboard with a multitude of threads of various subject matters so that discussion can be found and continued in the future at the person's discretion.

 No.2428

i pooped

 No.2431

dumb anchorer

 No.2439

dumb deleter

 No.2444

>>2427
gonna make all my stupid fucking thoughts into threads now. you better not complain

 No.2450

>>2444
well the problem is more this thread is just redundant when the blog thread exists for a majority of the random thoughts that don't need a thread, and the rest of them probably would make for potential threads

 No.2451

>>2450
should have thought of locking it before i bumped it then




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