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Right now it seems to be a good time to build a PC:
CPUs and GPUs are coming back in stock.
GPU price dropped to MSRP, thanks to the end of GPU crypto mining.
New generation, low availability technologies are cropping up like PCIe 4, DDR5, RTX 4090, AM5 socket, diverting consumer attention away from previous gen.
M.2 SSDs are cheaper than ever, and will be even cheaper in the near future because of flash memory chip oversupply.

What does /qa/ think about building a PC now?


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I don't really follow computer news unless I know I'm being parts soon, which I'm not, so I can't really give my own input. But, it does seem like a good time due to world events putting future supplies of stuff in an unpredictable position to say the least.
GPUs seem like a mess right now to me and that's the only thing I could see myself buying apart from a new PSU to support it.
Man, it sucks that EVGA is leaving the GPU market. I loved those guys and I haven't used any other brand in like 15 years.


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I think it's a pretty good time for building if you're in the mood for an upgrade. As for myself, got a new 3080 for about half what people were paying just a few months ago for these.


yeah its great
too bad I already have a pc


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How much is that, and is that a normal price now or did you get a special deal?
I guess Black Friday is coming in a little over a month, too, so there might be some deals there. (I think that's one commercial American holiday that has gone global thanks to the internet)


Got my (nice) 3080 for ~$800, and my father a few months before me bought his 3070 for around $1500, so it's come down quite a bit, and should definitely come down even more come black friday now that the 40 series is the hot new thing.


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Bleh, $800. Yeah, it'd need to be cheaper than that. How much VRAM is that?
I wonder if EVGA still has any to sell. Probably not.


10GB of VRAM.


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Dang, people were talking about using 12GB for some of this AI stuff. Maybe I'll just wait for the 60xx series


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Well can't regular RAM make up for any lack of VRAM or am I missing something? Surely most people have at least 16GB these days right?


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Hmm, I'll have to read up on that, but I feel someone would have mentioned that somewhere if that were the case. If it is, that'd be a great benefit to me since I future-proofed myself a bit and have 32gb of regular RAM


>Well can't regular RAM make up for any lack of VRAM or am I missing something?
That's not how it works, no...


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But they both have RAM in their names...


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I guess that'd be too simple, huh.
Looked at the 3090 for the hell of it and it has 24GB. Could they really not field something between 10 and 24?


Well if you want more vram you can go to ebay and get a used 3090 for under $800 right now...


I'm going to build a PC.


Ganbare!! Remember to use https://pcpartpicker.com so you can find out which sites have the lowest prices for components!


It's a fantastic website, giving you the option to filter its comprehensive listings by so many criteria and telling you about compatibility and estimated wattage. All websites should aspire to be as valuable in their domain as pcpartpicker.


Per component wattages are getting ridiculous...


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just got a 5700x for $210
like how cool it runs, all cores 3.7ghz sustained only gives 63c while the fan still runs quiet and performs 40% faster than the old 2700x
tried to use the auto oc option and it sustained at 4.4ghz but performance improved only by 10% and the temperature went sky high and the fan was too loud so i left it at stock config for now


I really wish Intel would stick with a socket for more than 2 generations. There was a rumor recently that the generation after Raptor Lake might use the same LGA1700 socket because the CPU retaining mechanism says LGA17XX/18XX, but I'm sure it will be incompatible and require a new motherboard...

With how expensive motherboards are getting, I'd at least like it to be able to support a few generations... I don't get why they can't just make an "LGA2000" or something and then just have a bunch of reserved pins for IO expansion in the future if newer motherboards need more IO to support PCIe 6.0 or DDR6 or something.


I'm thinking of getting a new PSU on Cyber Thursday/Black Friday and potentially a new GPU. This 6GB of VRAM is really starting to bother me- I couldn't use the HD texture pack in Monster Hunter World a few years ago and the personalized AI fetish porn generator needs at least 10GB if you want to make your own models.
But, if I'm upgrading stuff I'd probably want to start watercooling again- I still have my old pumps, reservoirs and radiators, but I'd need new CPU and GPU coolers. Bleh. This is a lot of money so I don't know if I'll bother at all.


are the prices low for real now?


okay i ordered a 5600


Been savings my pennies all year so I can build a best-of-the-best PC when the Zen4 3D cache chips come out. Hopefully it will last me 10 years like my current one has.


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So, uhh... where the heck do I go to look for info on Black Friday/Cyber Thursday deals? Is it just some reddit pages somewhere or have people made websites for this? I haven't done this in years


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>>98188 here, did anyone else build a PC aside from maybe >>98689?
Good lord, the two 1440p monitors I bought along with it are such an upgrade. Before them I was using a line of:
¥768x1024 CRT
¥old 1024x1280 LCD monitor in portrait mode
¥your typical 1080p LCD monitor
I'll have to find some other use for them. I dug up an old hard drive and put windows XP on it and hooked it up to the old computer but the hardware is too new and it doesn't recognize most of the peripherals on its motherboard. Sigh it's much easier with virtualbox isn't it.


>¥768x1024 CRT
you use crt in portrait mode? how?


Isn't it written vertical x horizontal? the LCD was in portrait mode.


well, for 1440p and 1080p monitors you didn't write them in full and assumed to be in landscape mode, and for the portrait mode monitor you used vertical x horizontal, so i inferred that using writing out vertical x horizontal implicitly means portrait mode in you post.


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this is how you use a CRT in portrait mode


You can try the subreddit r/buildapcsales, but if you're trying to build a PC I think it might be better to use PCPartPicker and then just sort through parts based on what you're looking for. Right now everything is just pre-Black Friday sales as far as I know. The only thing I can find that I'd be interested in is that the Intel 670p 2TB M.2 SSD is down to $130 on Newegg.

Typically it's written horizontal x vertical, like 1920 x 1080, or 1280 x 720 for example.


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I'm after some computer parts and a laptop for my mom so I guess something like that would work. Although, it's a bit messy and impossible to organize since it's user submitted stuff. Well, 'search' is there so I guess I could search "PSU" or something for power supplies as long as people correctly label them.
I'll try searching if anything is cataloging what sites will have deals for what when the day or even week arrives and this still doesn't seem very good, but maybe it IS the best there is.



warmly waiting for black friday sales to finish my new pc. although i'm also new at this whole norm shopping thing, doesn't the stock on everything that's desirably run out very quick on these sale days? it seems stressful to have to be up and paying attention at a certain time or else it's gone...


man, i bought a laptop like an idiot last month, hadn't thought at all about electro consumer day...


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Thanks. I'm glad to see a traditional forum still thriving. You reminded me that I used to anandtech's forums: https://forums.anandtech.com/categories/shopping.30/
Not nearly as active as it once was. The Black Friday subforum is dead, but the other one seems semi-active.


It's more like "Black November" nowadays, sales start at the beginning of the month. Supposedly the biggest sales are "Black Friday" for brick and mortar and "Cyber Monday" for online.

There are limited supplies of featured items usually. Niche items like computer parts are unlikely to be featured, tends to be more like TVs, laptops, external drives, etc.


>It's more like "Black November" nowadays, sales start at the beginning of the month
Yeah, apparently I missed a good Amazon sale on some uhh.. 30## something Nvidia card on Amazon's Black Friday Preview Day or whatever it was called. I guess this is a bad time to be a procrastinator.
Time to dive in... tomorrow


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I think this about sum up GPUs the past few years. The amazing Black Friday deal is that it's actually selling at the retail price.


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For those in the US, remember that Best Buy has a yearly sale this time of year for an external hard drive that people (including myself) generally take apart and treat as a regular internal drive. I don't keep track of these things, but I think $200 for 14TB is pretty good and this has been an annual thing for years and people have yet to report any significant problems.


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There's actually a website for this, https://shucks.top and yeah $200 for 14TB seems like a steal.


aw shucks


Apparently there's a decent amount of 4080s for sale because anyone with the money to buy a 4080 just bought the 4090 instead.
You're either loaded and can buy a 40xx card or you can't.


Yeah, I've heard about their poorer sales, but at the same time it looks like no where online actually has any 40 series cards in stock, and when they do they're scalping prices on top of the already ridiculous MSRPs... I can't help but think that Nvidia is enforcing artificial scarcity the same way Nintendo did for the Switch given the anecdotes about how horribly the 4080 is selling at physical retailers.


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Just suffered a partial hard drive failure which is great, but I backed it up a week ago because the drive seemed like its problems were getting worse.
Anyway, saw this and it seems like a great deal so I just bought it:
My drive that died was a regular SSD with 400GB that I paid like $90 for so uhh... this is pretty nice.
Make sure you have a compatible NVMe slot if you buy it, and no GPU blocking it or anything.


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Actually i was able to cancel this one before it shipped and I got
instead. Seems like it's a lot faster and only $20 more. Apparently this is a really highly regarded brand so it should last me a long time


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Since it's Black Friday, in case anyone is thinking about getting any GPUs I figured I should point some lesser thought about stuff.

When it comes to rasterized performance, Nvidia and AMD are mostly on par with one another. So, for purely gaming workloads, it makes sense to consider whichever is cheaper, but if you care about specific creative workloads like rendering, video capture, and especially anything CUDA-based, Nvidia is generally the better of the two. In a lot of situations, if there isn't any AMD or generic GPU support, you'll be relegated to relying on the CPU, which is often miles slower. Some more pertinent examples currently could include stuff like Stable Diffusion, which is CUDA-based, although it does have AMD and CPU support. There's also things like Meriken's Tripcode generator which is also CUDA-based.

For most people, that extra software support won't make a difference, but if you plan on doing any creative workloads it might sway your decision to go with Nvidia over AMD.

Ray-tracing doesn't matter :P


Yeah, apparently the 4090 is massively amazing and potentially maybe possibly worth it if you're into CG and making hugely complex scenes. Gaming? Meh


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/qa/! /qa/! I bought parts!

My keyboard's ] key finally died and my i key was heading that way, so I bought a new keyboard. I switched from brown switch to blue and boy these are pretty loud. I really love how it feels, but I'm feeling unsure about the sound. It's also a slightly different spacing so my typing is going to be full of errors. Actually from now on in this post I wont' wcorrect my typos. It's a Corsair K95 RGB Platinum XT Mechanical Gaming Keyboard!

My power supply was eight years old and making too much noise, so I think it was on the way out. It's called "coil whine" or something. Anyway, I got a newpower supply! Corsair RMx Series (2021), RM850x!

I replaced my old crappy default CPU cooler because I always hated it, but procrastinated getting an upgrade until now. It's a ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO!

Finally, I was holding off on there being a "deal" (deal in quotations because no nvidia card can be called a deal) and bought a 3080 12GB for $750 which I'm feeling cnostant guilt over. AARARRGGGHGHHAUJSDHAUSJKHDKAS! It was so much money! But it's "normal" price if you were able to find it new like I did during the holiday sale was about $900, so I feel kind of happy aobut that.

HOWEVER! Apparently my secondary monitor, my faithful Korean monitor back when those were a huge fad for nerds to buy is considered obsolete and GPUs don't have D-DVI ports any more??! I looked it up and even with an adapter it makes it laggy and most adapters are made for 1080p when my monitor is 1440p. This sucks! So now, unfortunately, I have to spend money again and get some new monitor to use because having one monitor is TERRIBLE! I hate this. It's a good monitor and has given me no problems at all. I have to abandon it because GPUs can't spare on eof their 4 ports for D-DVI?! This is infuriating.
Sigh, so here I am looking around to see if ther's any lingering "cyber Monday" deals on Tuesday.


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Personally I stay with red because it's easy to press and reduces fatigue.

>bought a 3080 12GB for $750
Which did you upgrade from? For AI stuffs VRAM is more important than raw speed and my 2060 super already has 8GB so anything less than 16GB isn't much of an upgrade for me. I would wait until mid range cards with low power consumption start to gain more VRAM.

>I looked it up and even with an adapter it makes it laggy and most adapters are made for 1080p when my monitor is 1440p.
Is that true? Your GPU should have DisplayPort which I think is pin-compatible with DVI-D so passive converters work and don't degrade signal. HDMI is the one that has problem.


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I had a 2060 with 6gb and that 6gb bothered me even before the AI stuff because the card I had before it was some special EVGA one that had 8gb, so my VRAM actually went down when I upgraded to the 2060. I couldn't use the Monster Hunter World high resolution texture pack and that bothered me quite a bit. Well, I took a personal look at the textures and a lot of the textures were a mess and it wasn't worth the 8gb anyway, but that was besides the point. I was bottlenecked by VRAM back in 2020 or 2019 or whenever Monster Hunter World was.
>Your GPU should have DisplayPort
Ah yeah, I got these confused. I was looking at DVI to DisplayPort. The basic ones for 1080p are $10, but the ones that support 1440p are $50 or more https://www.amazon.com/3D-CAC-1010-DisplayPort-Dual-Link-Adapter/dp/B07T16LLB8
I need the "active" adapter type that uses a secondary USB port to draw power and even then apparently it's laggy and they're known to degrade over time while having other issues :


i have fun gaming on outdated hardware


>even with an adapter it makes it laggy
If I'm remembering right, DVI-D should allow for passive conversion to HDMI.

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