>>122607
You talk like this as if anyone who draws lolicon is actually a good artist and not just coasting off of an easy to market niche.

And I say lolicon very lightly because only the most grotesque stuff of that nature is not allowed on steam

Meanwhile your dumb take is forcing artists to release their games behind the worst mosaicing that destroys their art

>>122612
yeah and that's the end of the list

Don't delete your mistakes, I will see them

I can pick about 5-8 lolicon artists who actually have tallent and the rest are just pure garbage. Then the ones that sell on DLSite charge 2x the cost of normal content

>>122608
>is actually a good artist
nigger what?
¥Kinomoto Anzu
¥Henreader
¥Tanabe Kyou
¥Rustle
¥Higashiyama Show
¥Onizuka Naoshi
¥Quzilax
¥Fuyutugu
¥Hikoma Hiroyuki
¥Tsubaki Jushirou
¥Atte Nanakusa
¥MUK
¥Satuyo
¥Haguhagu
This is just going off of h-manga I could distinctly remember and it took me a bit because I forgot the names of some of them. If I went through my art folders I'd certainly find more.

also was debating whether to include ichihaya and sakamata nerimono but they probably deserve to be noted for their style

>>122615
baitmin

forgot Sabaku too yoruko is amazing...

This is another reminder to set your location to Japan on pixiv. Loli tags had already been blocked for people with a location set in in US/UK and other countries and now it's extending to other R18 stuff. This text looks like a boilerplate thing that companies like Patreon must comply with to not be erased by the almighty credit card monopolies:
https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=10830
https://pixiv1.app.box.com/s/6uq41xs25m092e6co1vor3r98kr4embv

I think a lot of this could have been avoided if pixiv and others would haven taken a stand against realistic AI stuff and the illegal stuff that happens in its comments, or AI in general since it's what opened the floodgates to all this stuff.
There really needs to be some sort of solution to this so people can still enjoy ero 2D stuff since a foul wind has only intensified...

>>123668
The solution would be for the western world to give up on regulating fictional pornography since nobody is physically affected by its existence. It's not Japan that needs to change for draconian laws.

>>123669
Yes, but "if we lived in a better world" is unfortunately not much of a solution. I mean stuff that individuals can do so ero artists can still make a living.

>>123670
In that case artists and the wider world in general should really try to start making crypto payments a reality since then we'd no longer be constrained to the ridiculous demands of card processing companies.

>>123668
Is it even feasible to take a stand against all AI art in general? Feels impossible if people just remove the metadata from their stuff that gives away it being AI. Either way just another case of Japan splitting its net further from foreigners because of their annoying nature. Eventually we'll be back to when the jp and en web were mostly separated again.

>>119523
>Also is there any way of downloading all my liked images automatically?
Still looking for this, the more of Musk's twitter I see the more I worry about its stability and permanence. Now more than ever I kinda really want to have a saved copy of all the pics I liked.

>>119523
Twitter and friends are hard because they throttle requests and will hide stuff on a timeline on purpose if they notice you doing it. Does gallery-dl support twitter yet? Been awhile since I used it.

I've been trying to set-up a website for years where Japanese artists and English fans could interact without the fear of censorship. I should really get off my ass and do it. I would love to get doujin creators from both Japan and America on the same website.

>>124448
It sounds like a great idea but Misskey originally was kinda like this, but what they found is that westerners have too many bad apples to merge the two communities and that it's easier to just keep them separate.

>>124449
What I wanted to do was keep out _those types_ by keeping the place kind of low-key. Only creators would be allowed to make accounts to post content to the galleries. Then slowly allow users in at first. Make it exclusive like gmail and facebook were in the early days. Then once you build a culture of kindness you start to open up and test the waters with outsiders. But if they don't conform you get rid of them.

Before I die I want to see the nice western otaku and content creators and the doujin circles in Japan interact more together. I think we could make amazing things together if we combined forces. Plus both sides already want to learn the other sides language. So it would be very helpful for everyone involved if they could practice both in text and voice chat.

Finally, it would allow western fans to directly donate to doujin creators in Japan without all of the usual hoops. I know things like fanbox exist. But what we really need is a way to pay them directly through a platform the community itself controls.

Imagine if we had doujin circles in the west. They basically don't exist. Almost no one is willing to create content and share it for free any longer in places like America.

>>124451
It would probably need to be reliant upon an invite system. Maybe something like private torrent communities in which the the inviting person bears a responsibility and penalty for violations done by anyone they invite. You'd need very active moderators that cull any of the activist stuff the second it crops up and issue instant account deletions for it. The free and open internet really isn't ideal in this situation when you're dealing with higher status people that brigade and bully with a misguided sense of justice behind them. They unfortunately have the power.

I think you could also just design it to function like an old forum or imageboard and that would filter out a lot of people that simply don't want to use something that isn't a twitter clone. This isn't an age thing as there's lots of young people on places like f95 and even newgrounds. I really don't understand why there's like 20 twitter clones when the format is terrible for anything that isn't sharing pics of food.

As kind of interesting as it has been to see the internet grow over the decades, forcing different communities to share the same sites has really lead to some terrible interactions. You really do need to protect artists and weirdos by shielding them from the rest of humanity through obscurity.

>>124451
The west does have a lot of doujin creator type people that make things for free, they just seem to make games instead of comics. F-95 zone has a lot of games from them and some of the game developers post on the site too.

>>124452
I agree with most everything you said. I've been here to watch it grow and chance. It's really changed for the worse. I don't understand the tiwtter clones myself. The problem with moderation is finding good ones. Those people you speak of are always the firs to apply. They act sane for a bit then they go crazy and kill the community from the inside. Seen it happen far too often.

>>124455
We used to have a lot of "doujin" software but now it seems like things are going behind a paywall. What I really miss are western artists that did animated shorts. A lot of them were really talented. Now you rarely hear from them at all.

I wrote a long post some where else about how I want to run/manage/start such a community. Perhaps we could discuss this there if you'd like to talk some more about it.

I decided to look at the booru side of things. Some software/service thing (booru.org) that a lot of smaller boorus use (and even gelbooru) has been on the downturn for years now. To my disappointment the guy actually closed it to new applications years ago. I decided to see if there's any news in regards to this and this seems like the guy's disinterest is even lower than it used to be. It took a month for him to reply to a thread about tag searching not working: https://forum.booru.org/viewtopic.php?t=14193
With it "winding down" I wonder what this could mean for every booru that relies on it. I've seen many websites die over the years from admins that have long since lost interest and it makes me wonder what's going to happen. Gelbooru will manage I'm sure, but what about all the smaller stuff?
On a side note it's kind of disappointing to see people that used to be so passionate about this stuff just mentally check out and no longer care, but I guess that's a subject for another day.

>>124452
>I really don't understand why there's like 20 twitter clones when the format is terrible for anything that isn't sharing pics of food.
Are you counting by URLs? Most of those are mastodon instances

>>124588
The upside to this is I wrote some software over two decades ago now that's still chugging along fine and being used by lots of websites (it's written in PHP). So most likely someone will pick it up when it gets too unbearable and the bugs too annoying.

A lot of it isn't a lack of passion. It's a lack of time combined with the fact that it's becoming nearly impossible to host certain content on the internet these days without being harassed, doxed and ddos'd. I went through that over the last few years myself. I'd still have a couple of places online if I could keep them up without constant waves of pizza spam and bot spam. A long with people with nothing better to do than devote their lives to trying to take them down. I burned through multiple hosts in just 6 months due to harassment simply because I allowed people to have a home when others wouldn't. I don't understand why it's so hard for people to simply ignore sections of a website they don't like.

I even had people sign up to be mods that would wait until they knew I was asleep before causing a bunch of drama with the goal of running other users off. It's really sad. Of course these people never build anything of their own. They only destroy what others provide for free.

Which is why if I do something again (assuming I can raise the funds) it's going behind an LLC and going to be some kind of invite-only place (at least at first). My pipe dream goal is to run a place with creators can upload any content they want without fear of censorship and users could donate/pay them directly without worrying about the funds going missing or the banks cutting the creators off due to nature of the content.

I _really_ think it's about time we had a place where the Japanese and English users can interact directly when they want. It doesn't make sense to keep them separated when so many on both sides are interested in learning the other side's language (or already know it). Plus I don't see the point in Japanese creators going through these distro channels like CR and others. Which only ruin the content or censor it. When they could just sell directly to English users.

Imagine if a mangaka could post his/her work on a place with no censorship then share some of their donations with the English community to do a proper translation within a few days/week. We're already doing it for free for a lot of titles anyway.

Apparently now this new site "Bluesky" is trending and it's from former twitter staff but I don't place much faith in it to survive at all. In fact it seems like, if pic related wasn't an error, it'll just be another censored to hell shithole that will quickly find itself on the bad side of jp artists.

If only misskey was more well equipped for a larger userbase...

>>126930
Bluesky was made by the former twitter CEO who is himself politically activist-y and it attracted other political-minded people so I wouldn't count on it to be good for anything fun or interesting. Definitely not something for hobbyists, just like twitter or instagram and pretty much everything else. It's a twitter clone through and through so it will operate like one.
I'm kind of surprised Zankuro tried, since I assume he's someone that deals with similar stuff on twitter. I wonder why mastadon isn't more popular, they do have their own Japanese instances (and misskey like you said).

e621 (the major furry booru) just did a complete purge of all "young humanoid" stuff. https://e621.net/forum_topics/45501
That's a bunch of Pokemon and kemono stuff wiped out I'm sure.

>>130309
>It's wishy washy because it's the best we can offer. There is no single law we can point to as the tipping point, and while we were sitting pretty unaffected by most things, the same can't be said to a bunch of our business partners who did not appreciate the heat we attract.
>And since we can't function in a vacuum we have had to adjust.
So it's not any new laws or anything, just business ties that would be soured having that stuff up. Well that's disappointing but at least Gelbooru has any content I could want so losing stuff on e621 isn't much.

>>130310
Translation: We don't care about the community and we just want to make money. So we're going to abuse the community as much as we can get away with and bow down to whatever advertiser is willing to shill products on our borderline porn website.

Same attitude that is killing the rest of the internet.

>>130309
my kemololi just fell ill....

The owner of FurAffinity died. That's not my kind of thing, but it that's one of the original big furry sites so hopefully it will still manage to do its thing without him. https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10923887

I will keep using boorus and Pixiv. I hate Twitter.

I gave up on Twitter completely a few months ago.
Everything I get now is from Pixiv and boorus.
I miss a lot of artists (a ton have Pixiv accounts and haven't posted to them in like 4 years), but fuck it.

>>132150
i was trying to look up >>>/jp/79161's author yesterday and his work has barely been uploaded to danbooru so i had to use nitter i really wish i could upload the pics...

>>132150
You may need to just work with Nitter or something like that and list out some artists that you often miss but want to see more of.

>>132171
I found a nitter instance that works!
Everything kept saying that Nitter stopped working a while ago while I was searching around, but this one works.

https://nitter.poast.org/c170904919
god, I love this guy's work

I have noticed that more and more artists are now ruining their own artwork with watermaks and sometimes filters because of some AI thing twitter recently did, and some are even going as far as applying it to their pixiv uploads as well. It's really sad to see.

Is it an artist thing to be this anal about reposts or is it a special brand of Japanese autism? I really don't get it...

>>135424
"""Artists""" are a bunch of whinny faggots that can't cope with the fact that the average joe can generate something for themselves so they have to resort to this gay shit. Fuck them.
No sympy for these people.

Here's another one, saved from pixiv.
Sublime gappy milkers... ruined.

>>135424
That sucks, but it's their fault for still being on twitter to begin with after the AI scraping news. Artists can't win in this situation, though, someone would just edit that text out so there's no reason to deface your own art. It basically just makes it uglier for no gain. You'd need to put the text over most of the image and change the lines and do a whole bunch of other stuff to make it look truly abhorrent.

>>135426
Don't bring the 4chan contrarianism towards artists here. It's one of the most retarded things among all the retarded things people do these days.

>>135424
The oily blur is the worst... it's supposed to "poison" the AI... stupid.

>>135428
>Don't bring the 4chan contrarianism towards artists here
The fuck are you on about, I don't browse 4chan. All I'm saying is that I have no sympy for these whinny faggots who CHOOSE to upload their images on a website that scrapes data. It's their own goddamn fault. Fuck them.

>>135427
The irony is that a quick edit with an AI declutterer takes care of that. It aint precise and there are errors if you look closely in a side by side, but it's just an example at how futile their effort is. It's like anti-piracy measures, it doesn't stop pirates and only inconveniences honest users; in this case it won't stop anyone from using AI and will only annoy people looking at their art.

>>135432
That looks pretty good, it just needs a quick touch up in photoshop.

>>135433
Someone else can, I was just illustrating an example.
Something else I noticed was that some of the artists are self aware about the anti-AI glazing. Lazy translation, too lazy to typeset…

>東方４コマ「ウォーターマーク御札」
Touhou 4koma「Watermark Amulet」
>無断転載OKです
Unauthorized reproduction OK.

>よう霊夢、なにやってんだ？
Yo Reimu, what are you doing?
>これで生計を立てようと思ってね
I'm trying to make a living at this.

>ああ、これお前が投げてたやつだな
Ah, this is the one you were throwing.
>お札に自分載せろとかナルシストなのか？
Putting yourself on the ofuda, are you a narcissist?
>うるさいわね
Shut up.

>お？なんか見たこと無いのが売ってるな
Oh? There's something I've never seen before.
>時代のニーズに合わせたのよ
We've adapted to the needs of the times.

>ちゃんと貼ると効果もあってね
>AI学習を防止する結界張られるのよ
It works if you put it on properly, because it puts up wards to prevent AI learning.
>え？ああ…
Eh? Ah...
>AIってなに？
What is AI?

>>135435
Heh, that's pretty good. (and thanks for the translation).
There was that time at the very beginning when there were AI-derived jokes like the rainbow penis that artists drew themselves, but things have advanced a bit too far to see fun errors like that, really. Well, generally.

looks like bluesky's pop is going up by the millions, enough for a norp i know to send me links to it
aaaaaand there's drama over loli already
https://www.platformer.news/bluesky-growth-content-moderation-trust-safety-interview/
>Aaron Rodericks didn’t know what he was looking at.
>A post on Bluesky featured a sexualized image of a dragon that shared visual similarities with a human child. It had been reported to the company as a potential violation of the network’s community guidelines, and now it was being reviewed by Bluesky’s head of trust and safety.
>The guidelines ban CSAM, which is illegal to distribute. They say nothing, though, about anthropomorphic dragons. And the artist claimed that the dragon in question was 9,000 years old.

>>135516
>And the artist claimed that the dragon in question was 9,000 years old.
A sound and reasonable argument.

>>135516
Who whould have thought that migrating to a twitter clone with the same twitter people and the same twitter rules made by the former twitter boss was a bad a idea?