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File:[MoyaiSubs] Mewkledreamy M….jpg (309.45 KB,1920x1080)

 No.84897

I've been thinking that I need to make a good computer-in-bed setup, but just for gaming when I'm tired or when it's near the end of the day.
About a decade ago I had a Vita that would use Moonlight and Nvidia Shield for windows to stream the PC screen to the vita and I could use the vita buttons. It worked pretty well, but it had so me pretty big limitations like the vita's unusual resolution and input lag which made action games a bit too annoying.
I think I want a tablet or something, and then have a metal 'holder' thing and some switch joycons and an adapter.
Does /qa/ have any knowledge or experience with such a thing, or general advice?

 No.84898

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This is what I mean by 'tablet holder'

 No.84899

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And this is what joycon controllers look like. The appeal of these is that they're detached from each other so you don't need to hold your hands in the air, which the tablet holder is supposed to alleviate as well.
I've heard of people using joycons on PC so I know there's some sort of adapter for them

 No.84900

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>>84898
I have something similar for my ereader it's super comfy, I wish I didn't have to raise the arm to turn the pages though. I had a desk like pic related for my laptop but it broke super quickly

 No.84901

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Of course I need a tablet, too, so I guess I'd want one with a good screen size, but the specs aren't as important because it just needs to receive a signal from my desktop PC that will do all the computer stuff

 No.84902

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But wait.. audio! What the heck do I do with audio? Do tablets have audio? If they do, I bet it's crappy. I guess I could move a speaker near me, but that seems really awkward and it'd just be one source...

 No.84903

just get headphones
or some in ear monitors if you want to wallow like a piggy

 No.84904

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I use a projector. The screen is far larger and I don't need any kind of screen holder.

 No.84905

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>>84903
Ear monitor?

 No.84906

>>84899
>I've heard of people using joycons on PC so I know there's some sort of adapter for them
I'm pretty sure they just connect via bluetooth. Not sure if you'll have to do anything funny to get them to show up as one device instead of two discrete controllers, however.

>>84904
Projectors are good, but finding one that's actually the resolution they say they are can be a bit difficult. A lot of them, even ones made by reputable brands like Canon or NEC, will say "1080P projector", and then if you scroll into the specs what they really mean is "1080P supported", because then they'll also list their native resolution which is typically like 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 720. So you've got to be diligent if you don't want to end up with a crappy one.

 No.84907

>>84904
Oh, just in case OP or anyone reading actually wants a projector like the one in this image. This type is called an "ultra short throw projector". A more traditional projector will need to be placed back about 2-3 meters or so for a roughly TV-sized image, whereas an ultra short throw projector can be placed basically right next to the surface they're going to project onto. Also, just a word of advice: try to go see a projector in person to understand the difference between DLP and 3LCD or laser projection for yourself if you can. DLP projectors use a color wheel to create color, but this has the side effect of causing shimmering or a rainbow afterimage if you look around the screen, which can really bother some people (myself included). 3LCD and laser projectors don't cause this effect.

 No.84908

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I don't think a projector would work for my situation. There's a window and I have angled walls, not to mention I want to play in bed on my back since side would hurt my back too much over time.
I mean, where would a bed go here to use the projector?
>>84904
I guess you'd use the ceiling? Won't work for me unfortunately

 No.84909

>>84908
I project the image to the upper part of angled rooftop (45 degrees), it fits me well when my head rests on a pillow. My pillow is near the center of my room though, so if you place your pillow besides the wall you'll have to change that.

 No.84910

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>>84909
Hmm... I guess that's a bit feasible, but I'm pretty adamant to keep my bed in the same position.
This does seem like a possibility, but unfortunately the shape of the room interferes again. Does this mean you have a bed facing perpendicular to the wall instead of parallel?

 No.84911

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Also, what do you think Kotoko would do?

 No.84912

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>>84911
Get some sort of wheely cart that has a pole on it and attach a VESA mounting arm and then screw on a big monitor or TV, making sure that the base of the cart is appropriately weighted so it won't fall over, then you can position the monitor or TV directly above you while in bed, or alternatively wheel it somewhere else and use it like a TV or something.

 No.84913

>>84910
Yes, when I lay down my visual field is centered around the connection between angled and flat ceiling.

 No.84914

>>84912
Yeah, that sounds like the best bet. Isn't that basically what this thing is, though? >>84898
Well, I guess it doesn't have wheels and it's attached to a desk or something? Hmm, VESA mounting arm. No idea what that is, but I can learn. I hope this stuff isn't expensive, because the tablet will be...

 No.84915

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>>84913
Hmm... yeah, that'd be too much wasted space in my room unfortunately, if it would even fit like that

 No.84918

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That does not sound good for you at all! Stop being so lazy and get out of bed!!

 No.84920

>>84914
>Hmm, VESA mounting arm. No idea what that is
On the backs of monitors and TVs, the screw attachment points for connecting them to a stand or arm is standardized. VESA is just the organization that comes up with the standard. They're the same people that created DisplayPort and standardizes resolutions.

 No.84921

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Hey, buy this.

 No.84924

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>>84920
Ohhh, neat.

>>84921
I've seen those in hospitals before, but I have no idea how they work. I guess they rotate? I can't figure out how they get into a comfortable position if you're in bed. Maybe good for short-term use, but it'd definitely make the joints sore.
Unfortunately, as hospital equipment it would be ludicrously expensive, too.

 No.84926

get a handheld pc like the steam dick

 No.84929

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>>84918
I think it's a better alternative to sitting in a chair for the entirety of the day. And besides, playing in bed before sleeping is very relaxing!

>>84926
I had thought about that, but it's not a solution. The specs are static and already quite inferior to my computer. It would also have its own operating system thingie. The appeal of the setup I'm envisioning is that it's my normal desktop computer session, but in bed. No memory cards or FTPs to transfer things between them.

 No.84930

there sure are a lot of esoteric suggestions in this thread, is there anything stopping you from just getting a TV that you would connect to your PC + wireless keyboard with trackpad (something like the k400+) for internet browsing and and a gamepad for gaming

that's what I do, in fact I can't even remember when was the last time I actually used my PC from my chair...

 No.84932

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>>84930
My main monitor is technically a TV and that was a plan I had years ago, but it just didn't materialize. I wanted to have some sort of spinning platform for it so it could rotate 90 degrees, but I couldn't really find a way to make it work.

>that's what I do
But while on your back? I can't really get comfortable on my side, and I want to do this while laying in bed so I don't want to just sit on my bed either

 No.84933

>>84932
>But while on your back?
yes, it's the most comfortable position since the TV is in front of my bed

i'd actually prefer if I could look at it while I'm at my side though

 No.84934

>>84932
>spinning platform for it so it could rotate 90 degrees,
So it could go portrait, or do you mean rotating side to side?

 No.84935

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>>84933
I don't quite understand how you do this. Is the screen towards the top of the wall, almost at ceiling?

>>84934
Side to side, so it becomes perpendicular to wall instead of parallel

 No.84937

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>>84929
You are only making this worse for yourself! You are not supposed to play games before bed either.

 No.84939

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>>84937
you're Yume and I'm Kotoko humoring your comment while kissu looks on in horror

 No.84940

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>>84939
If they are looking on in horror it's horror at the thought of you throwing your health away because of your laziness.

 No.84947

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>>84940
Can going from sitting for 16 hours a day to sitting for 14 hours a day really be that much of a health change?
It's not like I'm exercising while posting on kissu or something. Sitting is supposedly really bad for your health itself because of our spines, so relieving that pressure seems like a good idea to me

 No.84979

>>84935
what the heck do you mean why would it need to be that high it's little below eye level when I'm lying down

 No.84980

>>84979
and it's sitting atop a drawer chest thingy

 No.84982

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>>84979
But... if you're laying on your back your eyes would be facing the ceiling. If you use a pillow you can change the angle, but you're not going to get an angle that's directly facing the wall

 No.84984

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>>84982
Oh wait, looking back you said you were on your side...
free Kotoko image

 No.84985

>>84982
>>84984
i am lying on my back

>If you use a pillow you can change the angle, but you're not going to get an angle that's directly facing the wall

ano....can't your eyeballs rotate downwards....?

 No.84986

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>>84985
It doesn't give you a headache? I can look down, but not without strain

 No.84987

>>84986
not in the slightest, wasn't even aware I was even looking down until you made me consciously look straight ahead and I do indeed end up looking at the ceiling when I do that

i don't think getting a headache or feeling strain from something like this is supposed to be normal...

 No.85010

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>>84987
I'm trying to think of a way to explain or draw the angle I'm imagining, but I'm drawing a blank. Well, that I'm trying to get away from having my neck at a 45 degree angle on the pillow because that's probably pretty bad since I'm already at risk to it due to all the computer use

 No.85573

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I watched a little bit of a Steam Deck review and it confirms my thoughts about it. It's definitely not for me, at least for this purpose.
It has a few hours of battery life depending on what you play, and as a little linux box there are games that it simply can't play, including nearly everything outside of Steam. It's not a matter of processing power, but the operating system.

Hmm.... what to do...

 No.85575

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>>84947
When you sit in a chair your body has to use muscles to hold you up, if you are in bed they don't and they will waste away and you will be like an old man and you will get bedridden.

>>85573
Get a switch.

 No.85576

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>>85575
Hmm, I guess the muscles thing makes sense, although there doesn't seem to be many muscles involved if I can do it all day.

>switch
I have one from my brother, but it can't stream PC games. It seems that currently to hack the switch I'd need to buy an old switch ($500+) or somehow find and buy a rare and expensive modchip and solder it myself. Neither are very good solutions

 No.89710

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I think I've found my answer and I wasn't even looking for it.
I'm looking at getting a drawing tablet for 3D work and maybe some off and on attempts at learning 2D drawing, but I learned that the they work differently from what I thought. I thought the screen ones were just functionally similar to tablets like the ipad in that they were full-fledged computers, but they're not (or don't have to be).
These things are designed to plug into the PC's HDMI and USB, and some of the models even have angled stands and bracket holes in the back for attaching to one of those mechanical arm things.
Obviously it has a good touch screen, so I could play games with that if I wanted to, although I'd prefer to just have it as a screen and have a controller in my hand if not using it as a drawing thing.
Hmm......

 No.89711

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>>89710
also it felt wrong not to use a Kotoko image, but I had to use the image slot to show what I was talking about

 No.89718

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>>89711
You could have used the image slot like this.

 No.89721

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>>89718
That's a good point.
Anyway, I'm reading up on these things and wow some of them are really expensive. It seems Wacom is the standard brand and it has a good 50-200% markup because of it, but other brands have been catching up. Seems like people demand more accuracy and sensitivity stuff for 2D drawing, but for 3D it's less specific so I'm probably not getting a Wacom thing.
Well... still need to find a mechanical arm thing that could somehow reach around my computer and also to my bed, so maybe it needs wheels or uhhh.. really long reach I guess.

 No.89742

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>>89727
After a lot of research I decided on this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09FDZG55G/
After I play with it for a bit I'm going to read up on stuff like this: https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Premium-Single-Monitor-Stand/dp/B00MIBN16O?th=1
I think I can potentially fit the arm and its base between the bed and desk, but I need to read up on dimensions and range of movement of different models. They're a lot cheaper than I remember them being, which is good because this tablet is more expensive than I wanted it to be.

 No.89796

>>89742
That's a very cute image of Kotoko.

 No.89799

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>>89796
All images of Kotoko are very cute!

 No.94294

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The VN thread on /jp/ has reminded me that I haven't bought the stand thing for my tablet. Unfortunately, it seems like there's not a good solution and I need to make a sacrifice somewhere. The prices seem absurd to me, as expensive or MORE expensive than monitors themselves. The solution that would be ideal are the 'hospital' monitor arms, but like hospitals themselves it's ludicrously expensive. $600 minimum.
This is what a typical 'monitor arm' looks like: https://www.amazon.com/Ergotron-Mounting-Arm-Monitor-Capacity/dp/B00689HXI4
But I need one with a long arm to reach over to my bed, so there's stuff like this:
https://www.ergodirect.com/18673-long-reach-desk-mount-monitor-arm-edm-1202d.html
But it effectively has a minimum height and it's definitely not made for rotation over a bed.

This stuff is designed for regular monitors and not little tablets. Ideally I'd want to be able to support a monitor if I want to, but it seems that it's out of my price range.
So now, I think I'll look into tablet holders that are centered around kindles or ipads or something

 No.94298

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>>94294
>So now, I think I'll look into tablet holders that are centered around kindles or ipads or something
Huh, maybe this really is the ideal solution and it was right there in my second post of the thread. It seems like these are a lot cheaper and of course are centered around personal use instead of office stuff, so it's made with beds in mind.
I'll be doing some research and making a purchase soon!

 No.94739

>>94298
Might buy one of these two then I never have to move

 No.94744

>>94739
Yeah, exactly. Well, more precisely you don't need to hold your arms in the air for 10 hours straight which causes heavy strain when you do it every day




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