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 No.67883[View All]

I want to nakadashi *girl* has become a popular phrase on imageboards (mostly 4chan). But it's a mix of Japanese and English. If I was going to say "I want to cum inside Holo" fully in Japanese, how would I go about doing that? In the English sentence, nakadashi is a loan word and it is the action being done, but in Japanese I don't think 中出し is a verb. Can it be verbified by adding する to it? And then you conjugate it to say you "want" to do it. So the end result would be 私はホロで中出ししたい which would translate to I want to cum inside Holo. Am I correct?

Japanese is fun to learn.
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 No.115991

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>>115969
Hmmm, interesting.
I checked kitsunekko for Dokuro-chan subs the other day and wrote them off after seeing {AI-WHISPER-GENERATED} in the title, but if the transcription is genuinely good then I'll try them with Darker than Black. That one's spent six years sitting there with half of its episodes missing. Thanks for posting this.
>>115970
Never heard of polysynthetic?

 No.115993

>>115991
Yes, but most are just symbolic identity markers these days more than languages now, with the exception of perhaps Welsh as in the north and west of the country, 50% or more use the language every day.

 No.115995

>>115969
That's really cool and a good use for this AI stuff, but yeah a 4090 is extreme. Subtitles isn't something you need 'live', though, so it would depend on how much is loaded into VRAM. Did you monitor the VRAM usage at all?
I wonder if there's been an improvement in OCR since I tried to play the Utawarerumono Nosuri spinoff thing, but I assume there hasn't been.

 No.115997

>>115995
Got some numbers for each model, but my initial impressions from checking up on the output as it's in progress are that Tiny seemed basically unusable, Base was okay, Small good, Medium better, and Large near-perfect. As you would expect pretty much. The other thing I found interesting was that there was no difference in VRAM usage between transcription and translation, but time taken was very variable. Also, it seems the figures for Whisper, at least from Whisper.cpp, were off pretty widely. That, or maybe it utilizes more VRAM if available? I'm not sure. But either way, my maximum VRAM usage was ~11GB, NOT 4.7GB like Whisper.cpp claims.

Tiny:
Transcribe:
VRAM: 1795MB
Total Time: 4 minutes 3 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 2.5 seconds
Translate:
VRAM: 1804MB
Time: 6 minutes
Second-per-Minute: 3.7 seconds

Base:
Transcribe:
VRAM: 3223MB
Time: 5 minutes 38 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 3.5 seconds
Translate:
VRAM: 3192MB
Time: 3 minutes 47 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 2.3 seconds

Small:
Transcribe:
VRAM: 3157MB
Time: 4 minutes 26 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 2.7 seconds
Translate:
VRAM: 3172MB
Time: 4 minutes 42 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 2.9 seconds

Medium:
Transcribe:
VRAM: 6177MB
Time: 9 minutes 15 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 5.7 seconds
Translate:
VRAM: 6153MB
Time: N/A (Forgot to write the end time. Whoops)
Second-per-Minute: N/A

Large:
Transcribe:
VRAM: 11251MB
Time: 11 minutes 52 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 7.37
Translate:
VRAM: 11242MB
Time: 8 minutes 48 seconds
Second-per-Minute: 5.4 seconds

 No.116036

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茶 is a pretty kanji to look at.

 No.116038

>>116036
All symmetrical kanji are pretty to look at, words consisting of multiple symmetrical kanji are especially great like 未来、田舎、中出、米日、富士山.

 No.116039

i like the kanji for "uneven" (i forget how it's read, i just know it looks like two tetris blocks)

 No.116040

凸凹

 No.116042

>>116040
yeah, that's the one! love that one.

 No.116046

凸◕凹◕凸

 No.116425

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Instead of translating a sentence into english when doing kanji reps on sentences I've been trying to instead visualize a picture of what's being said when I read out the sentence. Then I confirm that the same thing applies to the english sentence and if not I see where I went wrong. It's been working pretty well so far.

 No.116432

>>116425
The archives are so cute! I wish they got a full pc/console game instead of mobage

 No.116650

https://www.jlect.com/entry/1202/zu/

older japanese has some unique constructions you never really see...

 No.116651

>>116650
But this is extremely common in modern Japanese.

 No.116652

>>116651
well then i'm being tricked by the site since it says
>More common in older texts

 No.116653

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If I can do my reps tomorrow, I won't do them today.

 No.116655

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>>81105
>>81129
I was playing ファイアーエムブレム暁の女神 and noticed that it also glosses the unique class name 「勇者」 as 「ブレイブ」. The class description also describes Ike as an 「英雄」 with reference to his past accomplishments that made him famous.
The localization opted for "hero" for both words (well, technically "Hero" and "hero", but, ignoring case, they're the same).

>>116651
Reminds me of this 2020 blog post I came across talking about how in recent times 「せずに」 has been starting to overtake 「しないで」
https://note.com/kyone/n/naecace98c211
But I think 「せず。」 at the end of a sentence is still less common than 「しない。」 in modern Japanese.

 No.116788

What's the fastest way to learn hiragana? is it possible to learn them all in a week?

 No.116789

>>116788
flashcards
yes

 No.116791

>>116788
There are some flash thingies you can use to brute force the hell out of them in way less than time than you would with flashcards.
This is the one I used a couple years ago, and surprisingly archive.org comes with Ruffle integrated:
https://archive.org/details/kana-warrior_flash

 No.116792

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Learning kana feels very rewarding.

 No.116858


 No.118865

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>>116792
Kana is a huge step towards just recognizing basic stuff, and it's pretty easy to do. Good job Anonymous, you're on the right track!

Also, when it comes to the serious effort I've been putting in since September, I'm glad to report that I have yet to get burnt out, been doing my reps every single day so far and reading more stuff raw. Really feels like I'm making progress and being able to freely read LO whenever and not needing to wait for TLs is a godsend.

 No.118870

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>>118865
Thanks. I learned it seven years ago.

 No.118871

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 No.118872

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>>118871
Well, just the kana. I got filtered hard by the chinese scribbles and didn't pick up learning again until late 2022.

 No.119323

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Whenever I see definitions of 振る it's always something like "to shake" or "to wave" or "to allocate", but when I see it used in practice the importance of the term seems very important in most all settings. What's the proper way to interpret how it's supposed to be used?

 No.120318

this is some insane subtitling

 No.120319

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 No.120320

>>120318
It works for me with portuguese but really its more immersion and it needs to be tertiary at best, but apparently anime characters talk like dweebs so it might not be the best option

 No.120327

>>120320
>>120318
watching with subs works in any language up to a point. Anyone can pick up basic vocab watching eng subbed anime like the video said but no one will pick up words like ¨molecule-structure¨ in dr stone on their first watch, not even using the meme subs he made, unless maybe, if they know the words that make up the compound (分子,構造). the obvious next step is to learn basic grammar and watch it with jp subs to not be illiterate. The video assumes that people learning still don't know how much Japanese and English grammar differ from each other. Eng subs in any language are good to get your feet wet
>anime characters talk like dweebs
beaten horse, you can still learn vocab and notice when they do that to avoid it. Watching raw youtubers and streamers in whatever language you want to learn is the most optimal method to learn ¨natural¨ or ¨native¨ speak (this is why reality shows are popular among language learners, specifically international versions/variations of big brother). Of course, it also depends if it's a vtuber or whatever. Auto generated jp youtube subtitles are surprisingly accurate excluding the occasional errors when they are speaking too fast. I say it's the best method (imho) because the amount of easily available native content is massive and anyone can find someone they can enjoy watching if they look for them.
>>100893
hate this too

 No.120345

>>120327
Worst part of fish scaling is that they go everywhere

 No.120346

>>120320
Anime characters don't talk like dweebs, it's regular Japanese people that do.

 No.121491

How do Japanese people understand each other properly in conversations with so many words sounding the same but having different meanings? This is probably a good example, "nikui/iiniku" means both "hateful" and "hard/difficult": https://www.romajidesu.com/dictionary/meaning-of-iiniku.html The entire exchange here is based on a popular saying: "excessive tenderness switches to hundredfold hatred" and then Yotsugi misunderstands the second "iiniku" said by Yozuru as "hateful" when she meant "hard" instead.

It's not like this doesn't exist in English and other languages but I wonder if it's particularly bad in the case of Japanese.

 No.121498

>>121491
Oh, no, those aren't homophones. They're using the same root word all the time.
Nikui by itself is for a thing that inspires hate, -nikui as a verb suffix is something you hate doing. See the adjective 醜い for a reflection of both, from 見にくい. What Yotsugi is doing here is altering the saying「可愛さ余って憎さ百倍」, which has the word niku-sa (憎さ) that is a noun derived from the adjective, the subs are inaccurate/misleading because the second time its annotation says <(ii-nikui)> she's actually saying ii-nikusa, adding an 言い to the middle of the phrase to change the word and overall meaning. 憎たらしい is another separate word they use from the same root. They're not homophones, it's a range of meanings being used in wordplay while placed in distinct situations, comparable to the difference between between "I have a pencil" and "I have to go." Very normal thing all in all and it seems to me in this case there's not much confusion at play, just silliness. Yozuru earlier points out she's doing it on purpose.

 No.121502

>>121498
I see. I hear the "ii-nikusa" now. Then she says "nikui" by itself meaning "hate" and then Yozuru follows with "ii-nikui" explaining that she meant as in hard/difficult to do and not hatred. Just an issue of the subs not making this clear.

You could be a teacher with how good you are at explaining it.

 No.121507

>>121502
I don't think that's quite it.
¥ でも言いにくいことも、ちゃんと言っていかなきゃならないよね
When someone says something like this, they're typically referring to things that ought to be said but are hard to say because of the subject matter or the content of the message or uncertainty about the reaction it would provoke, not because the message is hard to pronounce. But Yotsugi twists it here to mean that things that are merely hard to pronounce are also imperative to say.
¥ いや、そういう「言いにくい」ちゃうやろ。純粋な言いにくいやろ
That's what Yozuru's tsukkomi here is about. Yotsugi's utterance is hard to say not because it's sensitive or offensive or anything but because it's hard to pronounce.
Or at least that's how I understood it.

>>121491
>I wonder if it's particularly bad in the case of Japanese.
It can get particularly bad in the case of kango (words constructed from Chinese morphemes). Try looking up こうしょう (koushou) for example. I imagine the meaning would often be clear from context, but if one needs to disambiguate one might specify the Chinese morphemes by their corresponding kanji by referring to some other words that use them (e.g. "koushou" where the "kou" is the morpheme whose kanji is the same as the one for "kuchi" and the "shou" is the morpheme whose kanji is used to write "uketamawaru": 口承). Another thing one might do is replace a Chinese morpheme with a native Japanese morpheme (or an on'yomi with a kun'yomi) like saying "bakegaku" for 化学 (chemistry) instead of "kagaku" because it's homophonous with 科学 (science).

 No.121508

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niku = meat
i = adjective
nikui = meaty

 No.121509

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>>121507
>When someone says something like this, they're typically referring to things that ought to be said but are hard to say because of the subject matter or the content of the message or uncertainty about the reaction it would provoke, not because the message is hard to pronounce. But Yotsugi twists it here to mean that things that are merely hard to pronounce are also imperative to say.
>That's what Yozuru's tsukkomi here is about. Yotsugi's utterance is hard to say not because it's sensitive or offensive or anything but because it's hard to pronounce.
But that's what I assumed, teacher. Sorry for not making that clear.

 No.121510

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>>121508
Meaty!

 No.121511

>>121510
I don't see any meat on that bone, how can she call herself meaty?

 No.121514

I started learning Japanese recently but i feel hyper stressed when i watch my amines now. I feel like i'm wasting time instead of learning Japanese? Anyone felt the same when the started?

 No.121515

>>121514
take it at your own pace. you don't need to do everything at once

 No.121623

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I stopped kissufrens! Forgive me kudasai onegaishimasuuu! I'll go back to my anki reps right away!

 No.121624

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>>121623
Don't sweat it, it's gonna take a while.

 No.121683

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Is this ever used over きん

 No.121686

>>121514
I felt like that at one point. Though I'm lazy by nature and hate putting things off so I justify still watching stuff through the reasoning that if I try and hear the anime before using the subs then I'm still somewhat learning. I know the grammar pretty well so it mostly just comes down to words I don't know and after ~200 days of Anki I have a good solid foundation of words.

 No.121896

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Are all verbs that end in れる relating to the object of which the verb is enacted on receiving the verb prior to れる?

 No.121897

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What's the best way to deal with words like these that have two readings and the decks I'm using prioritize こんげん in one and ねもと in the other?

 No.121898

>>121897
Write a formal complaint and send it to the Japanese embassy.




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