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 No.141227

Sometimes it’s beneficial to be able to come out and communicate a bit. For example, just today I held back vomiting when approaching a neighbor about picking up some brush on her curb. And she said it was fine to take! So I got myself a shitload of good firewood for no cost at all.

Now you may be thinking to yourself, “That’s impossible! I can’t do that!”, but trust me, you can. It’s pretty easy too, only took me a bit over a month to work up the resolve to ask!

 No.141228

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I just said "thank you" to the pizza delivery guy.

 No.141229

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I never have fallen into the hikki death spiral but I've been a NEET for 32 years and counting, never worked a single day in my life also just as a horrifying thought I want to point out that Misaki is older than most 4chan users now.

 No.141235

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Finally done organizing them all…
Now I need to wait for the shed to arrive so I can keep them safe from the rain so they can properly dry. Also got to cut them up. Hopefully they work…

 No.141236

I went outside and experienced nature. It responded by giving me a week of sneezing and coughing constantly so I couldn't even go in to work and became more hikki.

Also, you don't have to ask to pick up someone's garbage. Once they throw it out it's no longer their property.

 No.141238

>>141236
>Once they throw it out it's no longer their property
that sounds like something that will differ depending on where you live

 No.141239

>>141235
Nice faggot

 No.141241

>>141227
cute vom

 No.141246

¥hikikomori failure
¥who wants to save a
¥a nice girl

 No.141248

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I have to go to the hardware/garden store to get stuff like dirt and I have to talk to the cashier or ask about the location of stuff and it's not too bad, I guess. It's not easy, but it's doable. It's easy enough because most people are either in their 60s and older or are there for work and go in and out.
Having a normal hobby like a garden gives me something to make casual talk about when I venture out into the world, so there's a hidden benefit there that I think I've mentioned here before. I never start conversions, though.
I still much rather be around plants and animals when I'm outside, but talking to people with similar interests is alright online.

 No.141250

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>>141235
Thats a nice amount, well done.

>>141248
Wish you success with your endeavors. Need to go to the hardware store myself to get seeds but procrastinated again.

 No.141256

>>141227
i hate this meme

if i had to put it succinctly it’s portraying normal society as good and upright and the hikkineets as the bad and wrong because they don’t work and become normal the cause is uhhh video games and anime, and of course this society is miraculously free of all ills and problems
it frames what is really a systemic failure as a personal failure
no, the neet didn’t fail society, society failed the neet
it’s pro-establishment propaganda

 No.141263

>>141256
Not wanting to work is bad though. And NHK is about escapism ultimately failing everyone

 No.141278

>>141277
I only posted the preface to Welcome to the NHK.

 No.141280

Honestly I don't think you read the room deleting that. How is that political proselytizing? It's not my fault some guy calls me a jewish cia agent because he didn't like the preface.

 No.141281

File:Welcome to the NHK.pdf (3.43 MB)

The whole novel is here if someone wants to read it. It's a good read, not too long.

 No.141283

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>>141256
In this world, conspiracies exist.
However, there is a more than a ninety-nine percent chance that the
plausible-sounding conspiracies that you hear about from others are
simple delusions or even intentional lies. When you visit a bookstore,
the books with titles like The Great Jewish Conspiracy to Ruin the Japanese
Economy! or The Super Conspiracy of the CIA That Hides Their Secret Pact
with Aliens! are all just trivial delusions.
Even so. . . people love conspiracies.
Conspiracies. We are hopelessly fascinated by the sound of that word
and its bittersweet echo.
Consider, for example, the process by which The Jewish Conspiracy
theory comes to be: The author has multiple, terrible complexes and
feelings, such as, "Why am I poor?"; "Why is my life not more
comfortable?"; "Why can I not find a girlfriend?" His mind and body
constantly are pressured, from both within and without.
Those pent-up grudges become endless feelings of hatred towardPreface
society. They become rage.
However, the largest source of rage is his own personal cowardice.
He is poor because he lacks the skill with which to earn money. He
has no girlfriend because he lacks charisma. But the process of seeing
this truth and acknowledging his own incompetence requires quite a bit
of courage. No human beings, regardless of who they might be, want to
look directly at their own shortcomings.
At this point, the conspiracy theorist projects his cowardice onto the
outside world.
He creates a fictitious "enemy" outside of himself.
Enemy. My enemy. Society's enemy.
"Because an enemy conspires to do evil, I cannot find happiness.
Because of this conspiracy, I cannot find a girlfriend. That's right! This
is all because of the Jews. Because the Jews are scheming away out there,
I can't find happiness. Damn you, Jews! I won't forgive you!"
Truthfully, this kind of thinking also inconveniences Jewish people.
All conspiracy theorists need to look a little more closely at reality.
"Enemies" don't exist externally. "Evil" does not exist externally. One
has to assume blame oneself for being a worthless person.
It's definitely not a Jewish conspiracy, nor a CIA conspiracy, and—
obvious as this may be—it's not an alien conspiracy. Before all else, one
needs to keep this fact firmly in mind while living one's life.
Even so. . .
A tiny percentage of people actually have stumbled upon a real
conspiracy. There is, in fact, one person who witnessed with his own
eyes a conspiracy that exists, at this very moment, in the most extreme
secrecy.

Who is this person?
It’s me.

 No.141292

>>141280
ive been telling anyone who'll listen
deletards
are
dumb

 No.141296

>>141283
>However, the largest source of rage is his own personal cowardice. He is poor because he lacks the skill with which to earn money. He has no girlfriend because he lacks charisma. But the process of seeing this truth and acknowledging his own incompetence requires quite a bit of courage.
Rewritten from the perspective of a rich bureaucrat: The poor are only poor because of their own cowardice, and lack of skill with which to earn a wage at a great company like mine. They often don't even have girlfriends because they're so incompetent and uncharismatic. If only they had the courage to work at my company 8 hours/day, 345 days/year I would graciously give them enough to live off of. Can't they see how much better that is than how people lived before the industrial revolution?!

 No.141297

>>141296
primitivist-kun...............

 No.141323

I made it as far as Satou did, got the job so I wouldn't starve or need to move back in with the parents.

 No.141338

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If everyone gave you a right to live without doing anything then people would start reproducing more creating more kids and then at some point people would need to start working. The marxist philosophy you try to promote is just a feel good bastardization where you want to pretend to be nobility because someone will pay for your lifestyle.
A real human is trying to succeed, not escape. NHK is all about failures.

 No.141339

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I thought NHK was about not sticking your ween in cute menhera freaks.

 No.141341

>>141339
You should always stick your ween in menhera freaks, you just don't marry them.

 No.141342

>>141338
A real human wants to be happy, not a servant of rich capitalists, rich communists or rich socialists. Being successful means enjoying your life, not working all day so you can pretend to be nobility with lots of expensive luxuries for the few hours a day that you're not working. The vast majority of the population are dumb masochistic normalfags that will choose to slave their lives away no matter what anyone like me tries to tell them, so civilization isn't going to fall apart just because some people choose to be NEETs and enjoy our lives. Even if it did somehow fall apart because of NEETs that's okay because it's shit.

 No.141343

>>141342
Retirement is earned, not given. People aren't that kind, no one will give you that using their dollars unless they're familly.

 No.141344

>>141343
There are many ways to live without getting a job and I'm not going to try to list them as it depends on where you live and what opportunities are available to you, but I agree that becoming a beggar is a bad choice.

 No.141345

>>141344
yeah. I'm not saying that what someone does has to be the best for society, and I think a certain youtube person said it best: You probably don't want to even be working with these people who don't want to work.
But in the context of NHK where the protagonist collects cash from his parents and watches all of his friend circle and their dreams fall apart... the idea is that having their financial needs fulfilled doesn't mean that things are solved.

 No.141346

actually, the more I think about it. NHKs message is that people's fulfillment isn't tied to their ability to earn money. The pyramid scheme arc reminds me of this messaging. You can debate if the arc was a happy end or not, but what I agree with from the author is that the happy end was not about the money

 No.141427

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>>141235
Went out and got myself a nice splitting log for the wood. Now all that’s left is for it to dry. In the meantime asked a landscaping friend of my father about some dead trees on a property they have. So should still be able to use it this year.

Feels kinda nice getting materials for my own BBQ. Though not sure I’ll go the extra mile to get a cow to butcher because I’m not too into killing animals. Would rather just get my meat from a butcher.

 No.141448

>>141338
We are in the middle of a trend of guys dropping out of the workforce to get by on welfare/parents and they don't reproduce at all because they don't have the resources to waste doing anything but loafing around the house watching youtube. There needs to be a gap where those that don't work can't survive and those that do work generate enough excess to raise children.

>>141346
The message is about not enabling people. NEETism is a drug, they desperately try to justify their addiction with mental gymnastics even when everyone around them can see their lives are falling apart because of it. They don't have the willpower to break out of the spiral on their own, so you have to cut them off and let the physical damage to their bodies force them to get past it.

 No.143390

>>141227
no idea how anyone could be a NEET without leeching off their parents

 No.143488

>>143390
Autismbux? Although I'm not really sure how it works or if it's even possible in my country.

 No.143492

>>143390
you can probably be a neet if you make money on stocks/crypto, but then you could also be a homeless neet if you do that

 No.143499

>>143488
I'm not handicapped so I'm ignorant about government handouts and their rules. most people aren't autistic, but many are living unemployed somehow; the numbers don't add up.
>>143492
...I'm also ignorant about those trades, but I highly doubt most anons shitposting on 4chan were living off stocks/crypto.

 No.143981

>>141236
>It responded by giving me a week of sneezing and coughing constantly so I couldn't even go in to work and became more hikki.
cute sickly kissuer

 No.143985

>>141227
I am trying to get a job with my useless degree.
I am not a NEET by choice. Job market for IT is just extremely bad.
I really am trying but not even a single interview has come my way after hundreds of applications. Its demoralizing.

 No.143986

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>>141227
I just completed an electrician cert II course and I think I'll do a cooking one next. I've been a NEET for 10 years but nowadays I just feel like I need to return to education for now and upskill and become a reliable man for the people around me. When I feel ready I want to eventually become a mortuary assistant and get off the autismbux

 No.144057

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>>143986
Electricians are tradespeople who will only be more necessary as time goes on, nice!

But also make sure whenever you actually get a job you don't listen to anyone who tells you to ignore safety regulations or do something in a hastily manner, those old bastards aren't looking out for you at all and have grown pigheaded in the way they think things should work. Always make sure your own safety comes first so you can live a nice long life!

 No.144058

i just sent all the paperwork the military wanted from me, wish me luck bros

 No.144060

>>144058
hope you can avoid an all-out war

 No.144062

>>144060
my preferences are logistics in both the airforce and army and they were listed as non combat so im pretty sure i dont have to worry about that

 No.147024

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>>141227
I attend raves now and then and it's sometimes fun, sometimes really distressing. When girls flirt with me I either don't know what to do to respond, or I don't realise it until afterwards, and this is also really nerve-wracking.

 No.147343

>>141448
no this is not correct. nobody is a NEET by choice, people who think they are are just highly traumatized and need to cope about it. Being a NEET is a product of things going very wrong. Trying to force people out of it is just going to further traumatize and destroy them.

People should want to do things, its the fact that they dont want to that is an indication that there is a problem somewhere. Some people have different levels of self awareness. For example some NEETs might be full neetlife ideology because its too scary to take in the magnitude of whats wrong with them, others might realize that they would like to function in society and understand that there are more specific problems stopping them. What ever the case a normal person does not want to be a NEET, and every NEET is a normal person with psychological problems.
The first step to healing is realizing that there is a problem.

Now what are these problems? Full on hikikomoris are one kind of NEET. Its true that some people fall into NEETism later on, but this should not be mistaken as simple lazyness, rather it has to do with how things they encounter in their life have been processed. Society and some of its mechanisms are a hassle and not really optimized, so a person who has been able to do fine might just have run into one of those and it was too taxing on their psychology. This is not to say those parts of society are good, in fact they are often parts that everyone complains about, but some people reach their coping limit trying to deal with them.
Changing society would be ideal, but its not so easy, healing the self is easier and has many benefits. In this way the solution for all kinds of neets is to heal the self.

The way to heal the self is not to be forced to survive. That can produce a surviving organism but its going to screw it up even more as its forced to adopt all kinds of false selves to deal with things.

I recommend people check out john bradshaw the family series. Its on youtube.
complete episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5aqdkWfno
playlist with the rest: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4wA21d2cgvEoCnGkVBFG-RrQA-qGxaD-

Its a good first step in a long journey

 No.147351

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>>141227
I got uni, but besides that nothing. I don't go out and I don't have any friends. I wish I could just work a small job to support myself and remain at home, but you know, family obligations and all that. I haven't lived for myself, I'll never be free.

 No.147353

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>>141227
I'm now a stable wagie working a regular 9-5. I've also gotten fit and lost all my excess weight. Overall I'm doing pretty well compared to how I was before! Only thing I guess I'm really missing right now is a lover.

 No.147370

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>>141227
I asked for my old job back and I think i'll get it back, so it's over for me

 No.147375

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I got a job some years ago out of necessity that no longer exists. It doesn't require much communication so I don't talk to people for the most part. Just show up do my work and go home. My lifestyle hasn't changed outside of work. I still stay inside, I just have more money for cool toys.

 No.147412

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j*b
w*rk

 No.147513

>>141227
I still spend ~95% of my time off work just stuck in my room and ignoring everyone else. I'd be more upset about it if it wasn't what I wanted to do though.

 No.147516

when im at home i dont want to leave
when im outside i dont want to go home

 No.147570

i'm thirsty but all the water bottles within reach are either empty or piss bottles i guess this is how i die

 No.147571

>>147570
there's nothing wrong with drinking fresh piss

 No.147583

>>147343
A video of a baby senpai babbling about religious nonsense to his cult following of insane old cat ladies isn't going to help anyone. I'm a NEET because I don't enjoy working and I'm not a masochist so no amount of drill sergeant/dominatrix talk about how I don't deserve things or that I owe anything to society is going to convince me to work.

 No.147631

>>147583
the video is entirely secular and his theories about family dynamics and how we develop into people seem to be really insightful, if one wanted to take a psychological framework its pretty good. The video has nothing directly to do with NEETs.

 No.147665

>>147583
>PBS
>Religious nonsense
Highly unlikely.

 No.147943

If you work, you die.

 No.147950

>>147665
I watched 1 minute of it and he started talking about saints and halos and everyone in the room looks old, it closely resembles a church

 No.148006

>>147950
I watched like 10 minutes and it seems to be a psychoanalysis approach where you suffer because you're ashamed of your self and you need to find and be in tune with your real self within.

 No.148032

>>141227
I had a career before covid. So no. I simply cannot be fucked now.

 No.148074

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I have been a NEET for 8 years. I have never worked a day in my life and never will. I will forever live inside my childhood bedroom with toys, animu and vidya. I will never go outside. The outside world doesn't exist to me.

 No.148806

Got a job, quit the job, only thing it changed was I had a little more money to do things. I also realized I don't get nervous around people at all anymore. People aren't complicated but they are governed by insecurities and resentments.

 No.149091

>>148074
Where do you get the money to sustain this?
I'll go into debt if I don't find a job soon...

 No.149095

>>149091
Considering anon wrote childhood bedroom I assume he lives with his parents.
I'm on neetbux. I used to live with my parents for free, but I saved all my neetbux until I could afford a cheap rural place to live.

 No.149097

>>149091
>I will forever live inside my childhood bedroom

 No.149104

>>149095
>>149097
>childhoood
Ah, I must've missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.
>neetbux
I'd love me some of those
>cheap rural place
Sounds peaceful but lonely...
>>148074
>8 years
>living with parents
Me too... I'd feel too lonely on my own. If I moved out, I'd look for shared living. Having to go out to socialise feels like a hurdle... Maybe it'll be easier if I get into the habit of showering regularly and getting dressed every day though... I usually only do that when I need to go to work or similar. Back when I had a job. I always got mild depression during holidays, that's probably why...

 No.149115

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>>149104
>I'd love me some of those
I would still live with my parents without it. I am grateful for my family paying taxes to help keep me alive.
>Sounds peaceful but lonely...
I have a lot of anime friends from the far east on my computer. They are teaching me language, it's a lot of fun. For physical needs, I have a cat.
I think by most metrics I am a hikikomori although I don't really identify myself as one anymore. Probably because when I considered myself a hikikomori I just like Satou in NHK would feel hikikomori pride, and it was being hurt. Going outside was hurting my hikikomori streak. It made me feel like I was doing something wrong for nonsensical reasons.
I'll meet a friend or two maybe once a year. I visit my parents a few times. For the rest of the year I don't go outside, but I don't *never* go outside and I don't hate it when I can do it on my own terms. I just don't feel much need for it.

 No.149124

>>149091
I live off disabilitybux. It's not much but I have all I need and every little treat I want.

 No.149128

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>>141227
I want to vomit all over my workplace to prove a point.

My job search arc was so promising with all the certificate hoarding, portfolio project speedruns, and CV full of social engineering, but I landed something that drains everything out of me and feels deadend, and it's probably still the best one could get in the field at my level anyway.
All of my remaining money goes to help me maintain myself to help me cope "healthily". I still feel like a NEET hikkikomori, but now with zero prospects of social life, with extreme appreciation of every hour of my shrinked free time, and with bantz skills because of my coworkers who are surprisingly alright.

>>141296
>Rewritten from the perspective of a rich bureaucrat: The poor are only poor because of their own cowardice, and lack of skill
Up to this point, the bureaucrat would be right.
The poor can tear the bureaucrat a new one as a competitor. Breaking own back for scraps is an unnecessary choice out of complacency and lack of focus, I know that personally.

 No.149130

>>149115
>grateful for my family paying taxes
Same, I don't know where I'd be without them... Homeless, probably.
>I have a cat, friends, visit my parents
>I just don't feel much need for it
Sounds wonderful, I hope you're having a good time anon
>>149124
>disability
oh no...
>bux
aw yes
>I have all I need and every little treat I want
Sounds wonderful too. I wish all the hikikomori to be happy and not depressed. I get sad if I'm stuck inside for too long but my sibling seems happier this way and actively chooses it over holiday trips. Different people, different needs I suppose.

 No.149162

I really want a part time job. I think i would enjoy working a few hours a day, but i have no idea how to approach getting one, particularly with my non existant work history there are going to be questions. It all seems like some arcane process. I managed to send one application off a few months ago, it took me two days to work up the ability to send it in. I dont think i am able to send off the quantity ive heard you need. Its hard for me to make a phone call when im me me, i have to be some other me like i become sometimes when im out doing things, but thats not psychologically healthy. maybe me me is another me and its imprisoning me in my room

 No.149167

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>>141227
Two days ago I went out to a nice tavern for the first time and had a quality meal with someone I'm very close to, then we went to a nearby lake and enjoyed nature together for a few hours.
The time flew by but it was nice to have a decent chance of pace for once, very spontaneous. I still get very bad social anxiety sometimes, especially with how I dress on occasion, but it's getting better now that I'm on my own.
>>141228
Hopefully that still made all the difference.

 No.149169

>>149162
>but i have no idea how to approach getting one
same tbh, I keep googling how to write applications and such. I thought wikihow would have sth comprehensive but I think they're overcomplicating it a bit https://www.wikihow.com/Apply-for-a-Job
I think sending in a cover-letter e-mail with a pdf of resumé+credentials in the attachment should cover it for most jobs. I let AI write my last cover letter and then just wrote it myself, using what the AI wrote as inspiration.
My most successful application was when I saw an ad and I just called and asked some clarifying questions about the job posting. Just something like "What are you looking for" or "What should I pay attention to when I write my application" can help a lot and I got questions answered that I hadn't even considered. But the easiest way to get a job is definitely when you just know someone who already works there and can put in a good word for you really. Either that, or you apply for a really kuso job no one wants. I did that once and the job was shit indeed...

 No.149173

>>141227
I haven't done anything to escape hikkineetdom but I should. I'll do it tomorrow (I won't do it tomorrow).

 No.149781

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follow up from >>144058
today i went into the city to do some written and math tests today and i passed everything! next up is the physiological and physical tests

 No.149787

>>149781
Are you fit enough for the military?

 No.149860

>>149787
ive been getting my cardio up to speed these past few months, they have an app where you can practice the physical on your own and i started passing it 2 months ago

 No.149863

>>149781
I think I saw your post on hikari about that if that was you. Good luck to you, ganbare!

 No.149866

>>149863
yea!! that was me, thanks <3

 No.149867

>>144058
are you trolling or something

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 No.149869

>>149867
A /qa/ warrior in the frontlines. Called a troll at home like vietnam soldiers got spit at in the US during the 70s. History is cyclical.

 No.150028

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>>149860
Nice! Hope it pays off!

 No.150200

>>141256
And what are you doing, or the NEETs doing, to fight back against this oppressive society?

Stubbornly refusing to work and become a recluse as a form of rebelling against the system?

 No.150262

>>149860
Nice, I've been working up my cardio too, but not to join the military or anything I just want to be a healthy /jp/sie.




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