No.141236
I went outside and experienced nature. It responded by giving me a week of sneezing and coughing constantly so I couldn't even go in to work and became more hikki.
Also, you don't have to ask to pick up someone's garbage. Once they throw it out it's no longer their property.
No.141238
>>141236>Once they throw it out it's no longer their propertythat sounds like something that will differ depending on where you live
No.141246
￥hikikomori failure
￥who wants to save a
￥a nice girl
No.141250
>>141235Thats a nice amount, well done.
>>141248Wish you success with your endeavors. Need to go to the hardware store myself to get seeds but procrastinated again.
No.141256
>>141227i hate this meme
if i had to put it succinctly it’s portraying normal society as good and upright and the hikkineets as the bad and wrong because they don’t work and become normal the cause is uhhh video games and anime, and of course this society is miraculously free of all ills and problems
it frames what is really a systemic failure as a personal failure
no, the neet didn’t fail society, society failed the neet
it’s pro-establishment propaganda
No.141263
>>141256Not wanting to work is bad though. And NHK is about escapism ultimately failing everyone
No.141278
>>141277
I only posted the preface to Welcome to the NHK.
No.141280
Honestly I don't think you read the room deleting that. How is that political proselytizing? It's not my fault some guy calls me a jewish cia agent because he didn't like the preface.
No.141283
>>141256In this world, conspiracies exist.
However, there is a more than a ninety-nine percent chance that the
plausible-sounding conspiracies that you hear about from others are
simple delusions or even intentional lies. When you visit a bookstore,
the books with titles like The Great Jewish Conspiracy to Ruin the Japanese
Economy! or The Super Conspiracy of the CIA That Hides Their Secret Pact
with Aliens! are all just trivial delusions.
Even so. . . people love conspiracies.
Conspiracies. We are hopelessly fascinated by the sound of that word
and its bittersweet echo.
Consider, for example, the process by which The Jewish Conspiracy
theory comes to be: The author has multiple, terrible complexes and
feelings, such as, "Why am I poor?"; "Why is my life not more
comfortable?"; "Why can I not find a girlfriend?" His mind and body
constantly are pressured, from both within and without.
Those pent-up grudges become endless feelings of hatred towardPreface
society. They become rage.
However, the largest source of rage is his own personal cowardice.
He is poor because he lacks the skill with which to earn money. He
has no girlfriend because he lacks charisma. But the process of seeing
this truth and acknowledging his own incompetence requires quite a bit
of courage. No human beings, regardless of who they might be, want to
look directly at their own shortcomings.
At this point, the conspiracy theorist projects his cowardice onto the
outside world.
He creates a fictitious "enemy" outside of himself.
Enemy. My enemy. Society's enemy.
"Because an enemy conspires to do evil, I cannot find happiness.
Because of this conspiracy, I cannot find a girlfriend. That's right! This
is all because of the Jews. Because the Jews are scheming away out there,
I can't find happiness. Damn you, Jews! I won't forgive you!"
Truthfully, this kind of thinking also inconveniences Jewish people.
All conspiracy theorists need to look a little more closely at reality.
"Enemies" don't exist externally. "Evil" does not exist externally. One
has to assume blame oneself for being a worthless person.
It's definitely not a Jewish conspiracy, nor a CIA conspiracy, and—
obvious as this may be—it's not an alien conspiracy. Before all else, one
needs to keep this fact firmly in mind while living one's life.
Even so. . .
A tiny percentage of people actually have stumbled upon a real
conspiracy. There is, in fact, one person who witnessed with his own
eyes a conspiracy that exists, at this very moment, in the most extreme
secrecy.
Who is this person?
It’s me.
No.141292
>>141280ive been telling anyone who'll listen
deletards
are
dumb
No.141296
>>141283>However, the largest source of rage is his own personal cowardice. He is poor because he lacks the skill with which to earn money. He has no girlfriend because he lacks charisma. But the process of seeing this truth and acknowledging his own incompetence requires quite a bit of courage.Rewritten from the perspective of a rich bureaucrat: The poor are only poor because of their own cowardice, and lack of skill with which to earn a wage at a great company like mine. They often don't even have girlfriends because they're so incompetent and uncharismatic. If only they had the courage to work at my company 8 hours/day, 345 days/year I would graciously give them enough to live off of. Can't they see how much better that is than how people lived before the industrial revolution?!
No.141297
>>141296primitivist-kun.......
........
No.141341
>>141339You should always stick your ween in menhera freaks, you just don't marry them.
No.141342
>>141338A real human wants to be happy, not a servant of rich capitalists, rich communists or rich socialists. Being successful means enjoying your life, not working all day so you can pretend to be nobility with lots of expensive luxuries for the few hours a day that you're not working. The vast majority of the population are dumb masochistic normalfags that will choose to slave their lives away no matter what anyone like me tries to tell them, so civilization isn't going to fall apart just because some people choose to be NEETs and enjoy our lives. Even if it did somehow fall apart because of NEETs that's okay because it's shit.
No.141343
>>141342Retirement is earned, not given. People aren't that kind, no one will give you that using their dollars unless they're familly.
No.141344
>>141343There are many ways to live without getting a job and I'm not going to try to list them as it depends on where you live and what opportunities are available to you, but I agree that becoming a beggar is a bad choice.
No.141345
>>141344yeah. I'm not saying that what someone does has to be the best for society, and I think a certain youtube person said it best: You probably don't want to even be working with these people who don't want to work.
But in the context of NHK where the protagonist collects cash from his parents and watches all of his friend circle and their dreams fall apart... the idea is that having their financial needs fulfilled doesn't mean that things are solved.
No.141346
actually, the more I think about it. NHKs message is that people's fulfillment isn't tied to their ability to earn money. The pyramid scheme arc reminds me of this messaging. You can debate if the arc was a happy end or not, but what I agree with from the author is that the happy end was not about the money
No.141427
>>141235Went out and got myself a nice splitting log for the wood. Now all that’s left is for it to dry. In the meantime asked a landscaping friend of my father about some dead trees on a property they have. So should still be able to use it this year.
Feels kinda nice getting materials for my own BBQ. Though not sure I’ll go the extra mile to get a cow to butcher because I’m not too into killing animals. Would rather just get my meat from a butcher.
No.141448
>>141338We are in the middle of a trend of guys dropping out of the workforce to get by on welfare/parents and they don't reproduce at all because they don't have the resources to waste doing anything but loafing around the house watching youtube. There needs to be a gap where those that don't work can't survive and those that do work generate enough excess to raise children.
>>141346The message is about not enabling people. NEETism is a drug, they desperately try to justify their addiction with mental gymnastics even when everyone around them can see their lives are falling apart because of it. They don't have the willpower to break out of the spiral on their own, so you have to cut them off and let the physical damage to their bodies force them to get past it.
No.143390
>>141227no idea how anyone could be a NEET without leeching off their parents
No.143488
>>143390Autismbux? Although I'm not really sure how it works or if it's even possible in my country.
No.143492
>>143390you can probably be a neet if you make money on stocks/crypto, but then you could also be a homeless neet if you do that
No.143499
>>143488I'm not handicapped so I'm ignorant about government handouts and their rules. most people aren't autistic, but many are living unemployed somehow; the numbers don't add up.
>>143492...I'm also ignorant about those trades, but I highly doubt most anons shitposting on 4chan were living off stocks/crypto.
No.143981
>>141236>It responded by giving me a week of sneezing and coughing constantly so I couldn't even go in to work and became more hikki.cute sickly kissuer
No.143985
>>141227I am trying to get a job with my useless degree.
I am not a NEET by choice. Job market for IT is just extremely bad.
I really am trying but not even a single interview has come my way after hundreds of applications. Its demoralizing.
No.144057
>>143986Electricians are tradespeople who will only be more necessary as time goes on, nice!
But also make sure whenever you actually get a job you don't listen to anyone who tells you to ignore safety regulations or do something in a hastily manner, those old bastards aren't looking out for you at all and have grown pigheaded in the way they think things should work. Always make sure your own safety comes first so you can live a nice long life!
No.144058
i just sent all the paperwork the military wanted from me, wish me luck bros
No.144060
>>144058hope you can avoid an all-out war
No.144062
>>144060my preferences are logistics in both the airforce and army and they were listed as non combat so im pretty sure i dont have to worry about that
No.147343
>>141448no this is not correct. nobody is a NEET by choice, people who think they are are just highly traumatized and need to cope about it. Being a NEET is a product of things going very wrong. Trying to force people out of it is just going to further traumatize and destroy them.
People should want to do things, its the fact that they dont want to that is an indication that there is a problem somewhere. Some people have different levels of self awareness. For example some NEETs might be full neetlife ideology because its too scary to take in the magnitude of whats wrong with them, others might realize that they would like to function in society and understand that there are more specific problems stopping them. What ever the case a normal person does not want to be a NEET, and every NEET is a normal person with psychological problems.
The first step to healing is realizing that there is a problem.
Now what are these problems? Full on hikikomoris are one kind of NEET. Its true that some people fall into NEETism later on, but this should not be mistaken as simple lazyness, rather it has to do with how things they encounter in their life have been processed. Society and some of its mechanisms are a hassle and not really optimized, so a person who has been able to do fine might just have run into one of those and it was too taxing on their psychology. This is not to say those parts of society are good, in fact they are often parts that everyone complains about, but some people reach their coping limit trying to deal with them.
Changing society would be ideal, but its not so easy, healing the self is easier and has many benefits. In this way the solution for all kinds of neets is to heal the self.
The way to heal the self is not to be forced to survive. That can produce a surviving organism but its going to screw it up even more as its forced to adopt all kinds of false selves to deal with things.
I recommend people check out john bradshaw the family series. Its on youtube.
complete episode 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5aqdkWfnoplaylist with the rest:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4wA21d2cgvEoCnGkVBFG-RrQA-qGxaD-Its a good first step in a long journey
No.147513
>>141227I still spend ~95% of my time off work just stuck in my room and ignoring everyone else. I'd be more upset about it if it wasn't what I wanted to do though.
No.147516
when im at home i dont want to leave
when im outside i dont want to go home
No.147570
i'm thirsty but all the water bottles within reach are either empty or piss bottles i guess this is how i die
No.147571
>>147570there's nothing wrong with drinking fresh piss
No.147583
>>147343A video of a baby senpai babbling about religious nonsense to his cult following of insane old cat ladies isn't going to help anyone. I'm a NEET because I don't enjoy working and I'm not a masochist so no amount of drill sergeant/dominatrix talk about how I don't deserve things or that I owe anything to society is going to convince me to work.
No.147631
>>147583the video is entirely secular and his theories about family dynamics and how we develop into people seem to be really insightful, if one wanted to take a psychological framework its pretty good. The video has nothing directly to do with NEETs.
No.147665
>>147583>PBS>Religious nonsenseHighly unlikely.
No.147943
If you work, you die.
No.147950
>>147665I watched 1 minute of it and he started talking about saints and halos and everyone in the room looks old, it closely resembles a church
No.148006
>>147950I watched like 10 minutes and it seems to be a psychoanalysis approach where you suffer because you're ashamed of your self and you need to find and be in tune with your real self within.
No.148032
>>141227I had a career before covid. So no. I simply cannot be fucked now.
No.148806
Got a job, quit the job, only thing it changed was I had a little more money to do things. I also realized I don't get nervous around people at all anymore. People aren't complicated but they are governed by insecurities and resentments.
No.149091
>>148074Where do you get the money to sustain this?
I'll go into debt if I don't find a job soon...
No.149095
>>149091Considering anon wrote childhood bedroom I assume he lives with his parents.
I'm on neetbux. I used to live with my parents for free, but I saved all my neetbux until I could afford a cheap rural place to live.
No.149104
>>149095>>149097>childhooodAh, I must've missed that. Thanks for pointing that out.
>neetbuxI'd love me some of those
>cheap rural placeSounds peaceful but lonely...
>>148074>8 years>living with parentsMe too... I'd feel too lonely on my own. If I moved out, I'd look for shared living. Having to go out to socialise feels like a hurdle... Maybe it'll be easier if I get into the habit of showering regularly and getting dressed every day though... I usually only do that when I need to go to work or similar. Back when I had a job. I always got mild depression during holidays, that's probably why...
No.149115
>>149104>I'd love me some of thoseI would still live with my parents without it. I am grateful for my family paying taxes to help keep me alive.
>Sounds peaceful but lonely...I have a lot of anime friends from the far east on my computer. They are teaching me language, it's a lot of fun. For physical needs, I have a cat.
I think by most metrics I am a hikikomori although I don't really identify myself as one anymore. Probably because when I considered myself a hikikomori I just like Satou in NHK would feel hikikomori pride, and it was being hurt. Going outside was hurting my hikikomori streak. It made me feel like I was doing something wrong for nonsensical reasons.
I'll meet a friend or two maybe once a year. I visit my parents a few times. For the rest of the year I don't go outside, but I don't *never* go outside and I don't hate it when I can do it on my own terms. I just don't feel much need for it.
No.149124
>>149091I live off disabilitybux. It's not much but I have all I need and every little treat I want.
No.149128
>>141227I want to vomit all over my workplace to prove a point.
My job search arc was so promising with all the certificate hoarding, portfolio project speedruns, and CV full of social engineering, but I landed something that drains everything out of me and feels deadend, and it's probably still the best one could get in the field at my level anyway.
All of my remaining money goes to help me maintain myself to help me cope "healthily". I still feel like a NEET hikkikomori, but now with zero prospects of social life, with extreme appreciation of every hour of my shrinked free time, and with bantz skills because of my coworkers who are surprisingly alright.
>>141296>Rewritten from the perspective of a rich bureaucrat: The poor are only poor because of their own cowardice, and lack of skillUp to this point, the bureaucrat would be right.
The poor can tear the bureaucrat a new one as a competitor. Breaking own back for scraps is an unnecessary choice out of complacency and lack of focus, I know that personally.
No.149130
>>149115>grateful for my family paying taxesSame, I don't know where I'd be without them... Homeless, probably.
>I have a cat, friends, visit my parents>I just don't feel much need for itSounds wonderful, I hope you're having a good time anon
>>149124>disabilityoh no...
>buxaw yes
>I have all I need and every little treat I wantSounds wonderful too. I wish all the hikikomori to be happy and not depressed. I get sad if I'm stuck inside for too long but my sibling seems happier this way and actively chooses it over holiday trips. Different people, different needs I suppose.
No.149162
I really want a part time job. I think i would enjoy working a few hours a day, but i have no idea how to approach getting one, particularly with my non existant work history there are going to be questions. It all seems like some arcane process. I managed to send one application off a few months ago, it took me two days to work up the ability to send it in. I dont think i am able to send off the quantity ive heard you need. Its hard for me to make a phone call when im me me, i have to be some other me like i become sometimes when im out doing things, but thats not psychologically healthy. maybe me me is another me and its imprisoning me in my room
No.149167
>>141227Two days ago I went out to a nice tavern for the first time and had a quality meal with someone I'm very close to, then we went to a nearby lake and enjoyed nature together for a few hours.
The time flew by but it was nice to have a decent chance of pace for once, very spontaneous. I still get very bad social anxiety sometimes, especially with how I dress on occasion, but it's getting better now that I'm on my own.
>>141228Hopefully that still made all the difference.
No.149169
>>149162>but i have no idea how to approach getting onesame tbh, I keep googling how to write applications and such. I thought wikihow would have sth comprehensive but I think they're overcomplicating it a bit
https://www.wikihow.com/Apply-for-a-JobI think sending in a cover-letter e-mail with a pdf of resumé+credentials in the attachment should cover it for most jobs. I let AI write my last cover letter and then just wrote it myself, using what the AI wrote as inspiration.
My most successful application was when I saw an ad and I just called and asked some clarifying questions about the job posting. Just something like "What are you looking for" or "What should I pay attention to when I write my application" can help a lot and I got questions answered that I hadn't even considered. But the easiest way to get a job is definitely when you just know someone who already works there and can put in a good word for you really. Either that, or you apply for a really kuso job no one wants. I did that once and the job was shit indeed...
No.149173
>>141227I haven't done anything to escape hikkineetdom but I should. I'll do it tomorrow (I won't do it tomorrow).
No.149781
follow up from
>>144058today i went into the city to do some written and math tests today and i passed everything! next up is the physiological and physical tests
No.149787
>>149781Are you fit enough for the military?
No.149860
>>149787ive been getting my cardio up to speed these past few months, they have an app where you can practice the physical on your own and i started passing it 2 months ago
No.149863
>>149781I think I saw your post on hikari about that if that was you. Good luck to you, ganbare!
No.149866
>>149863yea!! that was me, thanks <3
No.149867
>>144058are you trolling or something
No.149869
>>149867A /qa/ warrior in the frontlines. Called a troll at home like vietnam soldiers got spit at in the US during the 70s. History is cyclical.
No.150200
>>141256And what are you doing, or the NEETs doing, to fight back against this oppressive society?
Stubbornly refusing to work and become a recluse as a form of rebelling against the system?
No.150262
>>149860Nice, I've been working up my cardio too, but not to join the military or anything I just want to be a healthy /jp/sie.
No.151993
>>151991Following mainstream media is a surefire way to become more depressed. Don't believe the lies. The 'normal people' just want to pull you into their misery of slavery. It's nicer to stay inside and alone. Or go outside and hike alone.
No.152645
>>152642Godspeed Anon. I remember we had someone from 4/qa/ do something similar and I don't think we've seen much of him since because it's quite a busy job. But I think he did pop up once or twice afterwards.
No.152721
Might finally get a job tomorrow if I pass this interview and I don't get stuck in backlog hell like every other job I've applied to. Wish me luck
No.152736
>>152721wishing you the best and then further wishing you the best in being able to retire as soon as possible
No.152755
I just found an opening for a freelance writing position, but they need examples. I'm more than capable but I don't have an actual portfolio outside of a highly disorganized diary. I was thinking of writing about chess strategy and maybe a quick analysis of the Ancient Mariner. What else should I pick?
No.152761
>>152755>What else should I pick?whatever the position expects you to write
No.152762
>>152755examples of things you could hypothetically make full versions of, fragments of previous work, microfiction, what's the context?
No.152776
>>152761>>152762It says articles and blog posts. I also decided to write about springtime and hope whoever reads it (if anyone) thinks it's nice.
No.152895
>>152886wait WAS it a scam though what's the problem with sending it again
No.153042
>>152895I looked them up. They lure you in with big promises and an overly-simplified UI and then coerce you into paying for an auto-renewing membership under the guise of being a "management agency." It's upsetting that people even fall for it.
No.153959
Set up the crappy shed for wood I bought and then transferred all my logs into it, also noticed that my fireplace is completely dead so guess I'll try and use some stone to make a new and improved stone fireplace that I've been wanting to make for a while now. Also got to chopping some of the more aged pieces and non-aged pieces and realized that I should really let wet ones age because it's FUCKING impossible to chop them, at least easily.
Doing lots to help reduce my Vitamin D deficiency lately.