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The scorching heat of
summer has arrived and it's time for a new round of shows to distract us from our bodies melting!
https://www.livechart.me/summer-2024/tvhttps://anilist.co/search/anime?season=SUMMERWhat are you going to watch?
Will Oshi no Ko give Kana official main character status as she deserves? Is the time of /qa/ belly anime finally here? Will the fansubs of Dedede save us from mediocrity?
FIND OUT IN THE 2024 SUMMER ANIME SEASON! 222 posts and 106 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.
No.132280
>>132276Did you not see them h*nd h*lding after? Tsundere-chan won big.
No.132297
stop the olympics for getting in the way of anime...
No.132321
>>132319That's an impressive amount of dedication! Yeah, I don't know how you guys are able to release such quality at such impressive speed.
>I know most people here don't need subtitlesI don't think this is true. There's a few of them, but far from the majority. We do use your subs when we do the kissu seasonal stream every Saturday!
No.132323
>>132321Did you guys not stream it this week or were you forced to go with CR subtitles?
We're basically churning them out quickly like this;
Encoder-kun produces a workraw in about an hour after the raws hit the usual places. He runs through and manually inserts I/IDR-frames at all points where there will be a chapter (there are over 20 this week haha). The translator translates all of the signs on his lunch break on the day this show airs. Then passes a long a .txt file to the typesetter. The typesetter than starts working on doing all of the signs. He did a ton of work this week and now that we aren't rushing to have them out by Sunday he got to spend more time than before. He's the same guy that typeset those subtitles on that laptop in show above. He also times a premux version of the script with no dialog. He's really good and can do an episode in about an hour or less.
After premux is done the translator gets to work later that night and over the next couple of days working out a literal/rough translation. We do research about anything we might not be sure about (references mostly). Meanwhile, encoder-kun runs through the entire episode filtering it scene-by-scene. This week there were over 100 scenes to filter. Script was over 1,000 lines long. He can get through an episode with that many scenes in about 2-3 hours. Once he's happy with the results he does a final encode. With even more forced I-frames at every frame where there will be a sign on screen. Various reasons for this but mostly boils down to device support and less stress on the viewer's hardware. He also goes through and adds "zones" to every scene that needs a bitrate boost. This week I think there are about 25 or 30 of those IIRC. He runs a test encode for the episode which takes about 8-10 hours depending on contents of each episode. Typically, the first "final" encode test is good enough and what we go with. But for a couple I've ran multiple encodes eeking out a little more quality at the same file size or giving the codec more bitrate to work with globally since the file size was so small. Although he tries to keep them under 800MB. This weeks will be about 700MB with everything (audio, video, subtitles, signs etc).
Once signs+script+final encode is done then Encoder-kun goes through the script again and strips out everything that isn't dialog. We convert it over to .srt format and do edits where needed (adding signs as dialog or adjusting things to get around the limitations of the .srt format for when two characters are talking at the same time). We offer the .srt for devices that can't support .ass. This takes maybe an hour or two depending on episode. Oh and at some point we go through the Japanese Closed Captions and check those to make sure everything is good and there are no errors.
After all that encoder-kun muxes everything together. We upload it to MEGA. Everyone watches for QC. If it's good we release to public.
I forgot one very important thing: After dialog TL is done we all give it a once over with multiple editing passes. We're up to v6 this week so far.
Anyway, typesetting just finished and we're going to go over dialog again. Then I'll strip it down for .srt and we'll push a release out in the next couple-few hours.
Thanks for watching.
No.132324
>>132323>Did you guys not stream it this week or were you forced to go with CR subtitles?Generally we try to give fansubs a wide berth so we watched episode 5 yesterday. If you miss a week we'll just delay a week. I wanted to keep Kaleido for Atri, but they seem to average about 11 days per episode (and fan subbing usually gets slower through the season) so it will quickly lead to issues in a weekly stream that doesn't pause at all for the next season.
I can't pretend to understand any of the technical stuff you mentioned, but I can definitely appreciate the TL notes and crazy subtitle stuff!
No.132325
>>132319that scene's double subs were very impressive, all around great stuff, great typesetting still
i'll admit i was thrown off by the lersant translation which, although after looking it up i understand is the same wordplay as tsuno->notsu, at first it seemed like french or something entirely different to me, so maybe a small note for that one wouldn't hurt
>>132323damn, you guys work fast
and is this all the same crew as miyosmiyos or did you get anyone else on board?
No.132334
>>132324Good to see people still willing to wait on "quality". If I could get paid to do this for a living I would (encoding/video mastering). Working on some software right now to try to make progress on that front. No excuse for how anime BDs are mastered.
>>132325We picked up a third guy who is a typesetting wizard and a couple of other people help out with various things. But we're always looking for more help with stuff (QCing, editing, suggestions, distro). If you haven't already stop by the IRC channel. We have one on rizon under the name you mentioned. We also have pretty good XDCC bot where you can grab stuff early.
Speaking of;
It's out:
-nyaa links (thanks to the anon that keeps posting these for us)
https://nyaa.si/view/1858709https://nyaa.si/view/1858710MEGA:
https://mega.nz/folder/L2w2yZ5Z#I1okLr0Kiyzlo73h4w6HhQXDCC: http://miyos.hydraulic-handpu
mps.com:8000/?g=NEWSTUFF
Note for XDCC you'll need to be in our channel on rizon to access it. Also note that someone keeps ddos'ing and trying to crack into the bot lately (we seem to have some haters). So uploading to it has been slower than usual. Download speeds don't seem to be affected. I'm going through logs later tonight to see if they're sending malformed packets again.
I will eventually make a section just for this show when I have time. For now it's always under "new stuff" section. Also note that I've decided to drop releasing AVC version due to low number of downloaders (who were probably mostly interested in the multisub/ESL subtitles anyway). But if I get one request to continue I'll start muxing them and uploading them again.
See nyaa posts or .nfo files for information about some changes in this release concerning subtitle tracks, TL notes and release schedule going forward.
Short version: We'll be doing HEVC video+AAC audio version and HEVC video+E-AC3 audio version. Source for video is CR on both with _lots_ of scene filtering. I am sure it's the highest quality you can find until BDs are released and I filter/edit those. Audio sources are CR for AAC version and Amazon for E-AC3 version. You probably can't tell the difference but if you need to pass through Dolby Digital Stereo to your TV go for the AC3. Otherwise, AAC works everywhere and is probably what you want. Both will work just fine on PC with the E-AC3 being slightly larger (10MB or so).
Thanks for kind words!
No.132336
>>132325>i'll admit i was thrown off by the lersant translation which, although after looking it up i understand is the same wordplay as tsuno->notsu, at first it seemed like french or something entirely different to me, so maybe a small note for that one wouldn't hurtThis of it like this: Lersant is Antlers backwards much like tsuno->notsu. Now imagine it being used for greetings among other things. It's used all over the place. I won't try to argue which is better (CR doesn't use Lersant obviously). In all honesty DeerGod did it first and we couldn't come up with anything better. So we rolled with it. We also took a line from their OP for the same reason. That's why I like the TLer working on this show. He's willing to do stuff like that.
Since we haven't gone back to do episode 2 yet (and episode 1 at all) we haven't really made a TL note for it. Since it should have been part of TL notes for episode 1/2. But 2 was a quick and dirty script we threw together because doing ep2 just kind of happened with no plans before hand.
If you're interested in all the TL notes so far:
https://files.catbox.moe/q3byi3.txtJust know there are a few for EP6 that contain spoilers. I would suggest reading their after you've watched the episode. Assuming you didn't want it early this week already. I think the other one is for EP3.
No.132337
>>132325>i'll admit i was thrown off by the lersant translation which, although after looking it up i understand is the same wordplay as tsuno->notsu, at first it seemed like french or something entirely different to me, so maybe a small note for that one wouldn't hurtI asked the TLer and we updated the TL notes on the MEGA archives. Thanks for suggestion.
ALL EPISODES
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Lersant - Shikanoko often uses the made-up word "Notsu" (のつ) as a greeting/farewell and the like. This is the Japanese word "Tsuno" (つの/角) with its two syllables flipped around. It originally means "horn-like appendage", and thus applies to the antlers of, you guessed it, deer. So, Tsuno (JP) becomes Notsu, Antlers (EN) becomes Lersant. She also mixes the word into some familiar phrases in a punny fashion, which we have translated accordingly (i.e. "Notsukaresama" , a spin on "Otsukaresama" (お疲れ様, a very versatile phrase that can in a specific use case mean "Take care", becomes "Take caribou".)
No.132387
at least wednesdays are good...
No.132481
>>132480what does hazure even have going for it
No.132483
>>132481apparently the elf
mostly just her design too, I'd assume
she has no character
No.132520
>>132519Quite surprising, granted it's only 968. Pretty impressive for a VN, and impressive that a recent VN got a good anime adaptation in 2024.
As for the VN/anime differences, it's pretty accurate but some stuff is switched around is a bit strange. Episode 5 and 4 should have been switched around if it was accurate to the VN, but some other stuff was also earlier than it is in the VN.
No.132521
>>132520you need to read the number on that big bar again
No.132523
>>132521I really don't know how to read it.
It's hard to tell... it shows 16k total reviews and the lowest bar representing a month is like 100ish with the average being around 300 and it's been out for 4 years?
But then there's 1,481 positive reviews on July 1st? But the previous day is 45 or so and July 2nd is the same? Huh? Everyone bought it on July 1st?
No.132524
>>132523No that's a monthly bar
No.132556
this week's monogatari looks like a snoozer
No.132641
NO idea why i don't feel bad starting every new episode of shinmai ossan despite it being one of the eliminated on week 1 shows this season for the stream
No.132666
isn't shikanoko just luckystar(2024)
No.132667
>>132666i don't think so, satan, not particularly
No.132672
>>132670this ougi looks a bit goofy i think it's the mouth combined with the head shape
No.132806
>>132805this is LITERALLY the v and berun meetup
No.133001
Is there no oshiko this week?
No.133009
>>133001>oshiko that's pee dude!