No.123829[Last50 Posts]
This is a thread for discussing and planning streams that people can host using kissu's own anonymity-supporting cytube fork at
https://theatre.kissu.moe/! People can and should make threads for the big day so they can post images and stuff and be more in control, but a thread to talk about stuff was suggested and I think it's a good idea.
I think I'll edit this OP to coincide with planned streams as well. No.123861
some people liked tomodachi game
maybe one of them can stream that
No.123889
>>123838Sounds good!
>>123854I don't think I'd like it, but others will!
>>123861Did we? I remember some "so bad it's good" potential maybe.
Personally, I've been thinking of how to stream the rest of
Mewkledreamy Mix. It rather unceremoniously got some subs uploaded on twitter by a teenager girl with only a couple episodes on nyaa due to nyaa's refusal to allow new accounts for the past decade.
Probably won't be up to the quality of MoyaiSubs which had a whole team of adults, but it's better than nothing. We have 32 episodes to watch from where we left off. I was planning on waiting for a slow/bad seasonal stream to add it to the end each week, but it's not something to rely on. I was thinking of something like six episodes per day once a week.
Well, first I should see if the subs finished. Now which nitter instance works...
No.123895
>>123889>It rather unceremoniously got some subs uploaded on twitter by a teenager girla kissu user started subbing mewkledreamy?
No.123896
>>123895ARGH you quoted a brain misfire of mine. But yes, some random person decided to just marathon through Mewkledreamy Mix subs a few months ago and the world only learned of it because someone else noticed and uploaded a few edited/cleaned up versions to nyaa before seemingly abandoning it. The last nyaa one is 23:
https://nyaa.si/view/1752794 I wonder how much stuff the world is missing out on because of nyaa being closed for so long. What exactly is its problem? Well, I guess if I want to rant about it again I'll do it in the private tracker thread.
No.123905
>>123889>Now which nitter instance works...nitter.poast.org
also the whole thing, all the remaining mewkledreamy mix episodes? damn
No.123985
>>123975Nice intestines.
>>123984Yes. It's time for me to download
No.123986
How nice, it got a BD release a year after I watched it
No.123987
im gonna try the mkv to webm thing
No.123989
>>123987Hm, why webm over mp4?
No.123990
WebMD is web mkv
No.123992
As a fallback I'll start on an MP4 but WebMD will be fine
No.123993
Funny phone typo...
No.124037
>>124032Yeah, actually that's pretty cool. Only issue I can see with it though would be that I'd need to moderate the filesize so that we don't run into network error issues and maybe split them into parts.
No.124237
Aka today
No.124246
>>124241I'll do Sunday after we finish Bake and Kizu, so next Sunday.
No.124543
Streaming Jin-Roh if you want to watch something to fill time
https://theatre.kissu.moe/kiss/yukkuri No.124551
>>124544I bite this and chew on this
No.124565
>>124544Just me.........
Can't believe it you can't even get people to show up to an unplanned stream in the dead of night these days......
No.124567
>>124565A few hours later and I might have joined you over breakfast.
No.124608
Was busy arguing about CS topics
No.124671
>>123896>I wonder how much stuff the world is missing out on because of nyaa being closed for so long. What exactly is its problem?I'm personally sitting on about 10 shows about half of which aren't available on any public source because I can't upload them to places like nyaa no more. I have a long list of things I would have already done if people weren't hoarding things behind private trackers (need those BDMVs and rare DVD rips).
I'm trying to solve this problem but there is only so much time in my day. We're considering buying an entire BD set right now because some guy threatened to stop sharing BDMVs with U2 because someone uploaded the vol1 to nyaa.
>>123987>>123989I'm working on a restricted container format for anime based on mkv that will solve the streaming/device compatibility issue. I'm calling it the Otaku Multimedia Format for now. Gonna have a special format just for manga (so it can be interactive).
>>124666On-topic: I would be willing to stream some stuff sometime if given access. I'm sitting on a large collection of stuff now.
No.124676
>>124673Oh wait I forgot you guys convert+upload. I ran a cytube channel a couple of years ago and we had an actual streaming server we piped through to cytube users live.
No.124677
>>124676Well, a guy here was just using twitch to do it, but yeah. Streaming could be cool, but it's not something I want to bother learning.
No.124680
>>124677If I can remember what we were using I'll come back and link it. It isn't that hard. We rented a cheap VPS and installed some software we got from github on it. Then all you had to do was connect to the server like you would with twitch/youtube or any other major streaming service. I typically used OBS but I piped ffmpeg directly a few times.
Anyway, you'd stream the video to the VPS then it would distro it to your users. We had about 30 regulars and one time about 200 people connected during a big event. We never had an issue with bandwidth since we had unlimited plan and the VPS could handle several hundred users.
The best part was if I streamed in 1080p the users could toggle quality in the player it embedded. So they could pull down 360p and 720p transcodes if they were on slow connections. VPS never had an issue with transcoding in real-time.
Everyone that streamed on it had a different style. What I did was plan a block of content similar to how Toonami and Adult Swim were run back in the day. Then I'd stream 4-6 shows for those few hours with breaks and bumpers in between. Sometimes I'd switch over to someone else's live stream and restream it if people in chat requested. It was really fun.
I don't join the streams here often. I think I watched Ergo Proxy a few months ago with you guys and a couple of movies in the past. I'm not really into streaming much and I don't use sites like Twitch. I did enjoy producing content for the one I ran for a little bit though so perhaps I should make an effort to give it another try. I did enjoy things like Saltybet back in the day.
No.124682
>>124677I've tried to look into how to do this and upload a stream as a file to the cytube player, but I don't think it's possible.
In the least I haven't put in the time to research multimedia streaming. Best I know is http/tls sockets
No.124684
>>124682Its possible. If the guy that set it up for us is still around I'll ask him about it next time I see him. I helped maintain it when he wasn't around but I'm having a hard time remembering the name of the script now.
What it basically did was embed a player from our VPS server in the cytube page. It by-passed the default cytube player if I'm recalling things correctly. It worked really well even on old smart phones. It could even auto-adjust quality for the user if they started dropping packets or their bandwidth got wonky.
You can't do it directly through cytube as far as I know. You have to set-up your own VPS like this and embed the third-party player.
The upside to doing it this way is no more conversion+upload. Instead you set-up OBS (or ffmpeg) to transcode the video in real-time like a normal streaming set-up for twitch/youtube. You don't need a recent CPU to do it either. I was doing it on a 15 year old CPU just fine. Since I was VJing the stream for those hours it wasn't like I had anything else hogging resources going on. You don't have to plan things in advance anymore. If chat doesn't like what's being played you can just load up a different video locally and switch to that.
What I did was dedicate a monitor to the stream. Anything I played on the monitor got sent out. But I had some keyboard shortcuts for OBS that allowed me to switch to a title card stream if I wanted to hide the screen for any reason. What I did was set-up a playlist of content locally and run it through mpv. Then I'd set that to play through while participating in chat on another monitor. If people needed pee breaks I could pause mpv and switch to a title card or something else I'd prepared in OBS while everyone waited. Usually I'd play music or something.
No.125100
>>125099Yeah that'd probably be a good idea, and Higurashi Outbreak might work too.
No.125101
>>125099Hmm, yeah, I think someone (you?) was thinking of doing that last year but had trouble finding it?
No.125103
I probably have ep7, downloaded them all a while back so I should still have them somewhere.....
No.125104
Well, it's not on AB. Someone could check uhh... man I completely forgot the name of that other place that used to be public but then went private like 5 years ago.
No.126791
Decided that before and after every one of my streams I'm going to put an episode of Mazinger on so that I can more easily get myself through all of it without forgetting about it and it going into an eternal "On-hold". It's more like a SATAM cartoon than some anime with a complex overarching story so people can hop in and watch if they want, you probably won't get lost. On episode 4 right now too so still far more to go.
The basic setup for the story is Kouji's grandfather, Dr. Kabuto, discovered the strongest alloy on earth, Japanium, and made a robot, the Mazinger Z, out of it to battle the villains, Dr. Hell and Baron Ashura, who intend to take over the world with their robot army. Dr. Hell is able to kill Kabuto but not before he passes down the Mazinger to Kouji, who uses it to destroy the first big three robots sent by Dr. Hell and foil his plans for world domination. Now, hungry for revenge and Japanium, Dr. Hell continually is trying to destroy/capture the Mazinger from Kouji so he can be free to take over the world.
No.126793
>>125103>>125104Oh, I ended up getting it, someone popped up and seeded it thankfully.
(One of the really great things about this is that many lines seem like the worst translation imaginable but go even further by being completely made up. A simulacrum of a bad translation, amazing.)
No.126891
>>126890Yes, but also yes. They did compilation movies for the runup to the new movie just a few years ago. They were all shit and technically an alternate universe, but it does count as a refresher.
No.129309
Any interest in some Psycho Pass or Tatami Galaxy(or related)
No.129315
>>129309>>129314Tatami isn't a very stream-friendly show in my opinion. Everyone is going to leave the stream with their heads being a jumbled mess full of words and unable to process everything they've watched. Not to mention you need to pause to read the subs sometimes too.
Psycho-Pass would be cool to rewatch if it's just the first one.
No.129317
well it seems like 2 people like tatami. I was hoping for some replies before 5est so maybe Sunday?
No.129331
>>129309I'd like Psycho-Pass
No.129332
>>126892Yes, just so long as it's the full series and not the kuso movies.
>>129309PP would also be fun to rewatch.
No.129412
i guess it's a bit mixed, but there's interest. I'll think about what to download at 4EST
No.129418
>>129332i thought the movie was alright fun
No.129419
>>129412I feel like Tatami would be like Bake in terms of stream activity if you're considering something like that.
No.129420
>>129419i would stream it to flex on the monogatari pervs with true art. But that's probably about it
No.129421
>>129419I'm not sure we watched the same show.
No.129423
>>129422You shouldn't treat him as being representative of anyone.....
No.129999
>>123838I'm going to stream Gunbuster next Sunday on:
https://theatre.kissu.moe/kiss/gunbuster then. Don't miss it!
No.130987
Akagi stream?
or are you going to Gunbuster? I have a busy friday so I can't do nothin
No.130990
>>130987gunbuster was cancelled and no further comments have been made about it
if teh rager said something about streaming akagi it was in the deleted thread, i personally thought he'd go watch it on his own
No.130992
i am watching it right now, but I don't mind rewatching things if there's interest
No.131843
>>131824You should stream the first season in one go, there isn't any reason not to stream it all in one go anyways (you did remember didn't you?)
No.131846
>>131843>(you did remember didn't you?)I do not. What did I forget?
No.131868
the anime which goes on forever... figuritively and literally
No.131894
>>131874use nitter.poast.org i said it the other day
No.132021
>serving up a the first half
Serving up a trimmed version of the first half*
No.132022
>>132020Go right ahead, I've actually been thinking of reading some gambling manga recently after giving Usogui a look so this'd be right up my alley.
No.132023
well. Kaiji is pretty detail heavy so maybe I want to start tomorow and air less episodes?
The main premise is that the hero has to play games against other people and the interesting thing is seeing how Kaiji solves the games and comes out on top.
So it really goes into detail with how people make mistakes and how things progress. It makes for a really deep psychological story, but it takes a lot of focus to not get lost in how he achieved the result
No.132024
anyways, keep your eyes out for whatever happens to happen tomorrow
No.132588
Now that Kaiji S1 is complete I think we can return to SZS. I'll be streaming Zoku NOT this week but the next, in two parts on Friday 30th and Sunday the 1st.
No.132659
>>132657It may be a problem to try and wait for gaps to truly become clear, since it's unpredictable stuff and you yourself may be dealing with something else when they do occur. The kind of stuff that's only visible in hindsight.
No.133440
(something weird happened when making this clip at very beginning and end)
I was thinking of maybe doing Fire Force streams. Season 1 was in seasonal stream, but people voted against Season 2. (Although back then we only watched about 5 shows at a time). The thing is, this was back in 2019. This much-delayed season 3 that was David Productions and then Shaft and now David Productions again is finally returning in Spring of 2025. Oh, and Season 4 is already scheduled for 2026. Because of how long it's been, I think we'd need to watch both season 1 and 2. It's a total of 48 episodes, which is a major problem when only about 60% people show up for week 2 of streams and it only gets worse from there.
Yes, I said David Productions! It looks and sounds amazing, even before they got all the experience from Urusei Yatsura and Undead Unluck. But I'm not sure if a edgy-ish action thing is something people would be interested in marathoning. It's shamelessly chuuni and honestly kind of shallow in a way that appeals to teenagers, not counting the guy whose power source is literally chuuni-ness. The storyline is becoming increasingly otherworldly so I think the visuals will be a true treat just like Undead Unluck. Undead Unluck's ex-shaft Director did do Season 1 of this, but not Season 2. (I think both seasons are good)
How interested are people in this? I'd really like to add Fire Force to the seasonal stream next year so this would be a requirement due to stream rules about sequels, but I'm also a bit doubtful about people watching 48 episodes of something like this.
No.133456
considered Dead Dead Demons Dededede Destruction stream since I didn't watch it through. There's also Bye Bye, Earth which I said I would watch after it finished
No.133458
>>133456The Dededede fansubs thing seem dead at the moment, although I did hear the official subs improved after a few episodes. 18 episodes, and make sure to NOT do episode 0 until the end.
No.133459
>>133458I've read it and the streaming site I watched it from is fine. But maybe the fansubs are better than you're saying
No.133546
>>133440Not sure about this, I didn't watch season 1 and looking at some episodes at random I'm not too convinced, especially for something that'd be 17~19 hours long. It certainly looks pretty cool, but not enough to keep my interest for such a long time.
>>133494It does seem like the Ali fansubs are extra dead:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Dededededestruction/comments/1dl5xx5/dededede_fansubs_released/ldpupit/ No.133569
>>133546Yeah, I'm not going to do Fire Force since no one really replied apart from your doubt.
No.133570
the rest of the manga is basically fight slogs and not a lot of cute. Don't bother
No.133572
yea, the 4de subs are good. It lets this animation masterpiece be viewable.
There's a few "nani? = yes?" moments but it's nothing egregiously distracting.
I'll stream is when SZS is done unless someone else proposes a thing.
No.133745
I managed to get the old code for streaming directly from OBS to cytube instances. It requires setting up a VPS first for live transcoding and to host the player that gets embedded into the cytube page. I'll probably set all that up at some point and will need some people willing to watch test streams until I have it dialed in. By default it's setup to support 720p+240p. 720p being direct output from OBS that's passed to the viewers and 240p is live transcoding. I could make it support other formats but each one adds more load to the VPS so I'll probably leave it the way it is. 720p seems like happy medium for bandwidth for most viewers and most won't noticed the difference between 1080p anyway (also less burden on VPS+streamer's bandwidth).
Plan once it's set-up is to premiere stuff I and my friends are working on along with streaming some old stuff. Not all of it animation/Japanese. But I haven't really worked out the format yet. Will probably run it like an old TV channel block. Something like Adult Swim I guess.
If anyone wants the code to host their own instance let me know. It works pretty well. Only real issue I remember is it always defaults to 240p when you first load the page and requires manual switching to 720p by the viewers using the player's quality button. Probably an easy fix.
IIRC it can support about 50 viewers on a kuso digital ocean droplet.
No.133746
>>133745Forgot to say. Each instance allows for creation of user accounts/keys. So once I have it up if anyone wanted access to my instance for their own purposes I'd be fine with it. Provided you don't start fighting over timeslots. Which is what happened the last time we were doing this. But I doubt you guys are as autistic about such things as they were.
One guy ended up causing a revolt because the chat started crying about lolis so he decided to do live readings of some touhou doujin with naked lolis. He managed to clear out the chat pretty quickly but they all got angry and talked someone into taking that guy's key away. Next thing we knew there was a full on sperg war going on that resulted in the site having to close down because both sides started reporting the other to the authorities after multiple rounds of spamming borderline pizza. A real headache I don't wish to ever repeat.
No.133747
>>133745so basically you have some software that chunks videos and feeds it into a URL for the <video> element?
I've been wondering how to do that when we stream content that's longer than 40m in length so yes I would.
No.133748
Or I guess since it's OBS to cytube you have a receiver for OBS on the VPS and you let OBS handle the annoying parts.
I tried with VLC in the past but didn't get far
No.133749
>>133747It uses RTMP. You use OBS (or just ffmpeg) on your end to live stream stuff like you would for youtube/twitch or any similar streaming service. It gets sent to your VPS. Which in turn routes it to the cytube instance with RTMP protocol. The VPS has ffmpeg installed for transcoding and everything else is written in python.
When you use it you do not get the usual cytube features like being able to rewind, pause and the other "leader" functions. It's purely live video. Although there might be a short buffer if you watch the transcoded version of the video. Been a few years since I've used it I'll have to install everything again and see what all it can do.
We mainly used it for movie nights and streaming video games and what-not. Along with other special nights for things. The streamer mainly acted as a VJ and would re-stream content voted on by the group. There were certain timeslots and nights where the same content was shown and that's when we had the most viewers. We ran it off a hidden channel on the main cytube instance. I'll probably have to modify some urls to make it work with the kissu one. I'll go through the code later this week when I have the time.
If you want a copy of it I'm willing to provide it now of course.
No.133751
already said i want to see it...
No.133752
I get the theory gist. You have OBS or whatever output to an RTMP server then the RTMP server creates a url which feeds chunks into the player. It's the same as twitch or whatever
No.133755
>guntstream
Well now I have a vague idea where this comes from but thanks. I've been meaning to learn this.
No.133766
happenings related discussion moved into
>>4165 No.133788
>>133754ah, btw. I'm not overly concerned if the code is exploitable because I run the stream stuff on a seperate server than I do kissu. So any issue with it is contained to the streaming site itself. Not to say that I'm going to blindly run this without checking
No.133854
This PoS software is so unstable and undocumented. Nothing works without heavy debugging. The database has no installer. The wsgi utility wasn't documented properly. I might have it figured out by now, but what will happen next after I get the database running?
No.133868
As expected.
I get everything working, and have an SSL endpoint to feed stream data, can get it running in VLC, now if I want to actually view it in cytube? OK, now what? Why does nothing play and I only get the standard video player error.
In Cytube HLS.js error: networkError - fatal: true - manifestLoadError
In theatre media could not be loaded. So wtf is this shit. I thought that it was able to be usesd with cytube?
No.133871
Cool, so I'll run DDDD tomorrow and see if it runs stable enough. There are some quality of life issues with. Not sure if it's usable beyond movies.
No.134377
>>134365Friday sounds good to me.