No.4760[Last50 Posts]
Due to apparent confusion with the previous poll, this new poll clarifies and expands on the previous options.
Previous poll:
No.4763
>>4762to get more specific, would option 2 mean the boards would effectively be a mixture of /an/ and /out/? would it include any more than what those two boards cover?
No.4765
It'd also force stuff like
>>>/win/2769 to be on /jp/ instead because it's 2D/Random not 3D/Random
No.4766
>>4762B-but... options 1 or 3 are the 3D/Random options... A constrained topic ("Animals, Nature, Outdoors, etc.") board wouldn't encompass all 3D things. Like, if I want to talk about trying to see if I can find a Herman Miller chair at thrift stores (because office liquidations sometimes donate the stuff they couldn't sell to thrift stores like the Salvation Army or Goodwill, etc.), this does not fit the previously mentioned constrained topic suggestions (
>>>/b/12840 >>>/b/12869 >>>/b/12876). It would fit on a 3D/Random board (which is how I personally saw, and used the seasonal boards).
If you want to make
another poll that further clarifies definitions be my guest, or edit the OP or something, because I think we have very different conceptions about what these things mean.
No.4767
this is way too much effort for something that is not going to be enforcable without me moderating to my heart's content
No.4768
The previous poll was better because it leaves an open ended use to the boards which is what's going to inevitably happen. You want /qa/ to be diluted so that's how it's going to be
No.4769
>>4766Well if the only disagreement we have was based on a misunderstanding then that's fine. When you argued for bringing back the seasonal boards
as they were I assumed you meant as the amalgamation of 2D/Random and 3D/Random that was only different from the rest in its cyclical nature. If you mean that you want the seasonals back as 3D random only then I'm fine with that and I'll have Vern edit the poll options. But the caveat I mostly wanted to enforce was keeping 2D pics out of the OPs so that we could have a clear distinction and make sure it's 3D/Random.
No.4772
yes yes I love polls more more please
No.4775
>>4769See, this is why I think we need to agree on definitions, because I don't fully agree.
>When you argued for bringing back the seasonal boards as they were I assumed you meant [...] that was only different from the rest in its cyclical nature.This I more or less agree with.
>as the amalgamation of 2D/Random and 3D/Random [...] I mostly wanted to enforce was keeping 2D pics out of the OPs so that we could have a clear distinction and make sure it's 3D/Random.This I do not agree with. I don't agree that simply attaching a 2D image to a thread about, for example, wanting to go to the convenience store to get junk food, but it being too late to walk or bike there, makes that thread a "2D thread". From what I understand what you're saying, that's how you're differentiating 2D/Random, and 3D/Random. I don't agree. It's the content that makes the post, not the image attached to it.
When I say 3D/Random, I mean "3D SLASH Random", ergo: encompassing a random assortment of 3D-related topics
and random topics. Likewise, to me, 2D/Random means: encompassing a random assortment of 2D-related topics
and random topics,
otherwise these threads mentioned would not be a suitable fit for /jp/ (
>>>/b/12793). In a similar vein, this is why I have contended that /jp/ is more a Anime/Random board; it tends to contain more topics related to seasonal anime, but then also a random assortment of random topics tangentially related to anime interests, such as gaming, twitter art trends, "2D culture" and so forth. The remaining topics not appreciated as being suitable for /qa/, and not tangentially related to the topics discussed on /jp/ fell to the seasonal boards,
as I see it.
If it's literally just the image attached that classifies a thread as belonging somewhere, I can at least understand how and why you would want to just move everything to /jp/ and wrap up the issue that way, but that's not at all how I see things.
No.4777
>>4748
>>4753
>>4755
>>4758
HIIII LAALA!!!!!!
No.4778
>>4775Ok, I disagree then. I want an explicit 3D/Random, not a mix. The old 'I'm going to the convenience store, who wants anything' fits perfectly on /jp/ and asking about real life stuff with a 2D image works fine on /jp/. "What's the best banana" with an anime girl eating a banana would never be out of place on /jp/, but now you want to confuse the options of where it goes for no reason other than deciding yourself that /jp/ is anime/random and not 2d/random.
No.4780
>>4779LAALA, I SAID HIIII
No.4782
at request option2 now says 3D random instead of all of the topics which will inevitably go into a 3d random board on kissu in order to replace /qa/
No.4784
>>4779I'm really, really not understanding your position. I just wanna post saber riding banana on /jp/ and talk about the bananas I found at walmart on the seasonal boards.
>We should have clear distinctions between what should be on the seasonal board and what should be on /jp/Your opinion, as I understand it, is that if the seasonal boards come back "3D topics" are fine on both /jp/ and on the seasonal boards, but seasonal board threads should just make sure to attach a 3D image instead of a 2D image? I do not understand how this is a "clear distinctions between what should be on the seasonal board and what should be on /jp/" and how this doesn't, "just confuses everyone and does nothing for giving the seasonals a unique identity."
Again, I think the
content of the post determines where it should go, not what's attached to it, so...
>Move /jp/ threads that mention real life in any capacity to the seasonal board?If there was a
constrained topic board that ONLY discusses 3D and 3D-adjacent topics, then yes, by definition those topics should be on the
3D/Random board and not on the
2D/Random board.
Now, as for my personal preference, I just want the seasonal boards back, "EXACTLY as they were". If it was the sort of thing posted on the seasonal boards in the past, it should be allowed to be posted on the seasonal boards in the future,
no restrictions on topic unless it is literally unfit like a seasonal anime thread.
>>4782In my opinion, the first and third options
are 3D/Random, and the constrained topic board idea is inherently NOT 3D/Random.
No.4789
>>4786B-but that's NOT a clear distinction like you said!>!>@ If anything can be posted anywhere so long as the right image is attached, what's the point of having any boards!?@!
>>4787I don't!?#? You asked me to clarify the options, so I've been explaining them, and then you've also been asking my personal opinion, which I have also been giving. My personal opinion is that I want the seasonal boards back, "EXACTLY as they were". By definition, that
includes "3D/Random" topics, but it is
not exclusionary to off-topic threads because that was how the seasonal boards were used!!
Option 1 is literally the path of least resistance, just bring the seasonal boards back and leave them alone and let people poster whatever on them!!!!
No.4792
>>4790gonna put my saucepans in Vern's neatly sorted spoon drawers
i am very handsome
No.4797
>>4796>>>/win/2769 this thread shouldn't be on the seasonal board
at the very most it should be on /qa/, argue me otherwise
No.4798
>>4796because the banana is a physical tangible thing and they are talking about a real life experience so the poster decided it's not 2d, but also that it's not serious enough for /qa/
No.4799
>>4797it's more like it should or could be on /qa/ but people don't feel like /qa/ should exist or be anything other than 8 threads and random attempts by individuals to make a couple of threads and feel good about ti
No.4807
>>4795nuh-uh. your interpretation of meaning is just bad. you have a poor epistemological framework for evaluating the world!!!
>>4800This is the third option or fourth option. New board, non-rotating. Really, there should be an option for everything now....
No.4808
Jesus Christ why can't we just have it the way it was before?
Why must we metatard at each other?
No.4810
>>4790I don't care about your OCD and you should just leave threads where they are in this or really any other scenario. What matters is that someone who thinks of an interesting topic or funny joke can glance at the board and think "it's okay for me to post this here".
No.4812
>>4810This is so AIDs but I guess futaba does it so there's some precedent for it working...
No.4815
>>4809It's not my wish! The first option is things
E X A C T L Y as they were. You'd better not call me some sly mastermind for introducing confusion over the word "EXACTLY". Unless the second or fourth option receives the most votes, the board created would NOT have an EXPLICITLY defined topic. That is option 1/3: 3D/Random: encompassing 3D, 3D-related, and random threads. The alternative is option 2/4: "Animals/Outdors": encompassing ONLY explicitly defined 3D topics. This was the exact issue raised in
>>>/b/12876exactly (adverb)
ex·act·ly | ig-ˈzak-(t)lē
1. a. : in a manner or measure or to a degree or number that strictly conforms to a fact or condition
"it's exactly 3 o'clock"
"these two pieces are exactly the same size"
b. : in every respect : altogether, entirely
"that was exactly the wrong thing to do"
"not exactly what I had in mind"
2. : "quite so" —> used to express agreement
EXACTLY YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER, NOT "well, actually we're going to move certain things to /jp/ and /qa/ if it doesn't fit". EXACTLY. E. X. A. C. T. L. Y.
Exactly as it was!! This is what I was talking about when I said you just push through your own vision and act unilaterally. You're doing it again. The options are very clear, and explicitly defined, and you're trying to do the same exact (see what I did there) thing again!!!
No.4816
seasonal board patriots are easily winning this poll
we want seasonals back and exactly as they were
the seasonal boards liberation front will not surrender!
No.4821
>>4817I can only feign cordial exasperation so long when you insist on things going your own way and purposely reading things in ways only you yourself believed. If you're going to continue the course of doing whatever you want, it shouldn't be a surprise that I'm pissed off and annoyed.
I don't think I've ever made a post that was a more accurate assessment. I'm the one who supposedly crowned themselves "arbiter of the community", and yet when you decide to make proclamations that show your own interpretations are incorrect and flawed (such as in the results of this poll, the previous poll, or the results of the 2D vs. 3D poll) there is no recognition and concession that you were incorrect. Instead, you hold exactly to your desires and say "regardless!" You're going to do things your own way, even if people are explicitly telling you that is not what they want. I'm supposedly the one who muddied the waters and introduced confusion to the previous poll, and yet you're the one who insisted on changing the wording of one of the options because YOU disagreed with the terms used. It's no skin off my back for me to admit whether I am in the minority opinion with regards to /maho/ -- because I cannot influence the outcome either way. When you are in the minority -- you're still free to do whatever you like, as I said, because you can actually make a change. But, no... I'm the sly mastermind who DARES influence opinion... Influences opinion, huh? Now why would that be a bad thing? I don't think you need me to answer that rhetorical.
No.4826
I can't go against the poll results. The people have spoken. There's no way to interpret this that fits my narrative. But if 3D/Random, not images, is what you think it should be then that is what it shall be. I don't misunderstand the difference in the slightest, I just personally disagree with using context as the deciding factor.
No.4829
>>4828I deleted most of my threads that could relatively fit the 2D/Random category and left anyone else's of a similar 'potentially' nature untouched.
No.4831
>>>/aut/3128although how does this fit 3d random?
No.4833
>>4832Stop being a freak. Jp posting was overrubning anything else. I remember qa having threads before seasons and secret got established. Both canabalizing the boards that came after
No.4835
>>4832In one corner I have dumbfuck No.1 lamenting the death of /qa/ from the increase in boards and demanding even more boards, in the other I have dumbfuck No.2 that laments the death of /qa/ because it doesn't generate as many threads despite making /jp/ for the express purpose of less serious threads that get made more.
Both of them are giving me an aneurysm.
No.4838
>>4766>It would fit on a 3D/Random board (which is how I personally saw, and used the seasonal boards).it's just a general random board it's not a 3d random board
there is no theme for anything 3d/random doesn't exist 2d/random doesn't exist who cares its all the same anyways
No.4839
>>4827Yes, I agree with this. If you look at the deleted threads (besides the locked/moved ones), you can see some that the vast majority are
¥neither seasonal nor 3D>>>/trans/18558, >>>/trans/19554, >>>/trans/19467, >>>/trans/19455, >>>/trans/19437, >>>/trans/19110, >>>/trans/18548, >>>/trans/18535¥seasonal but 2D>>>/trans/19545,
>>>/trans/19091,
>>>/trans/19087,
>>>/trans/18867,
>>>/trans/18865, >>>/trans/18821, >>>/trans/18812, >>>/trans/18525 (perhaps >>>/trans/18525 too)
¥bring up 3D but have a split focus on 2D>>>/trans/18861 (AssClass), >>>/trans/18788 (2hu)
It's really only the last and least common group that I would mmmaaaybe bother arguing about, I believe it's okay to have it as an edge case since people will want to make that kind of post and it doesn't fit neatly anywhere else. Other than that, I agree with the policy.
>>4838You a TARD nigga, shut yo' dumbass mouth and git da fuck outta this thread.
No.4843
>>4842wtf why is it not working
>>>b/12829>>>/b/12829>>/b/12829>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/b/12829 No.4844
>>4833>>4834>>4835>>4837You don’t understand that the whole point is to have /jp/ like threads to coexist with more serious threads. This way because of the constant threat of being pushed off the board, people had incentive to post in serious threads in order to bump and keep them alive. The /jp/ split meant that this incentive no longer existed, so the total amount of serious posts reduced, and the vacant poster energy went into low effort /jp/ shitposting instead.
No.4845
>>4844Then maybe you could convince vern of that and he'll agree and merge all 3 boards, since he's been on a tangent about /qa/ for a bit now too.
No.4846
>>4844That's your headcanon and it's a deeply flawed one. It occurs, but it's
not incentivized, you're pushing against the current, and it was never the norm in either 4/qa/ or kissu because if you don't have the interest to make a regular post under normal conditions then the standard behavior across the entire internet is to naturally let the thread slide down. That's what overwhelmingly happens.
No.4847
>>4825Why do I only feel resentment?
>>4829How immature. When /maho/ was created, I didn't ask for my threads to be deleted out of spite. Have some perspective.
No.4849
>>4847I can return them then?? I didn't delete all of my threads that I made on the seasonal boards, only those I felt muddied the waters most about 3D random. Even
>>4839 agreed there could be an argument for them, so I just argued against myself for their purpose.
No.4850
Well, actually I don't want to return them because I feel they go against the spirit of the board. I didn't even delete the banana thread because of the way a banana could be a real life topic.
>>>/win/2769If I was really feeling spiteful and not just trying to delete what I felt didn't fit the image of the board, then there were far and away a whole bunch more threads of mine that I could've deleted to be a dick, but I left them up.
No.4856
>>4846There is a tipping point only after which the posters stop caring. Necrobumps and bumpbots were common on 4/qa/ saving good threads from death. It’s only after s****k.party inflow and massive rangeban of bump/spam bots that made 4/qa/ passed the point of no return.
No.4859
>>4856You're still not making a case for it being incentivized, the opposite if anything.
No.4860
This is stupid as fuck.
If I lock this horid thread then berun will bitch and unlock it using mod powers, if I don't this nasty thread continues.
I just give up. It's not worth dealing with you guys.
I try to do what's best and other people force their opinion into a bitter argument leaving no one happy.
I'm doing whatever this poll says and ignoring it. You can let kissu fester in this crap.
No.4864
>>4861Congratulations dude. You got what you wanted. You win. I don't care anymore. You can have this dumpsterfire where you argue constantly with an autistic moderator about what's right while never getting anywhere
No.4865
Well, like I said, we can do it because of group consensus and not because of bickering.
To again reference an older post of mine
>>>/b/12803 this whole thing was not brought about in good faith and other people should have done what I did and walked away for their own sanity. Nonetheless, it can serve a beneficial purpose for other people who do seem to want the seasonal boards back.
No.4866
>>4865Why do you think that some open ended opinion will change anything without trying to directly reach out and target individuals
No.4868
>>4859I’m not sure if you really don’t understand the implication of my post or it’s a feigned ignorance of malice. I won’t substantiate since you won’t give a serious reply either way.
No.4870
>>4868¥pressure making threads go down incentivizes serious posts¥¥no, people overwhelmingly either let it fall or use lower quality bumps¥when it has the right speed, then it's incentivizedDid I get that right?
No.4871
>>4866Ehh, opened ended opinion? What do you mean? People seem to want the seasonal boards back, although how "successful" they will be is debatable. Individuals? I don't think things should be looked at on the individual level for this. What the group makes of the board is what matters.
The aura of these threads has been so tremendously negative that I've kept my replies limited since I can't get invested in something that should be positive twisted into something so ugly.
I guess if I have a "final opinion" it's to bring the seasonal boards back as the /poll/ indicates and then autosage this ugly thread and everyone can try to be happy again. The seasonal boards are going to feel tainted for a while due to the nature of their rebirth, but it is what it is.
No.4875
I'm done.
No.4879
the back and forth in this threads reminded me of a copy pasta:
>Watch out for Hibikid! The public enemy of /qa/ #5:
>- found /qa/ during the freeze and decided he'd be the leader of a revolutionary movement that will transform /qa/
>- encourages users to violate GR13 and claims mods are on his side
>- responsible for making any pro-avatar sentiment in /qa/ irrelevant by subsuming it into his retarded crusade
>- militantly derails entirely unrelated threads by attempting to link them with his crusade for avatars
>- was not even around to know what 4chan was like before /qa/ existed but claims to be its champion
>- fails to do anything that would actually accomplish his stated aim anyway
>- obsessed with the notion that /jp/ spinoffs are all secretly his enemies in disguise
>- ignorant enough to announce that ``there is nothing wrong with /pol/
>- as soon as called out for spouting ignorant bullshit he will return to anonymity
>- did not deny to be an underage kid with divorced parents when directly asked about it
>- has threatened to ban evade and will speak in riddles, hinting he is schizophrenic
>- has made it public he intends to use different avatars to `` trigger /qa/
>His ultimate goal is probably to create a Discord colony on /qa/ but that's just a delusion.
>Add further observations of shittery to this list and repost it when you see him.
No.4880
>>4860>I'm doing whatever this poll says and ignoring it.If this includes moving the /trans/ and /jp/ and /qa/ and /maho/ threads back to the seasonal boards they were taken from then I promise I will never make light of your small penis problem ever again
No.4881
I V and berun should settle their differences via a mudwrestling competition. I think that would make everyone happy.
No.4882
>>4880the hell do you even want. You don't even like kissu.
No.4884
>>4882dumb argumentative shitposter
No.4885
Holy shit why is everyone such an autist just return the fucking seasonal boards back it isn't that fucking hard god damn.
No.4887
>>4786hi laala
>>4793hi laala
>>4795hi laala
>>4837hi laala
No.4891
i wish they weren't but I guess I will
No.4893
>>4892Wouldn't it be /sum/ for 10 days?
No.4894
auti/sum/
No.4895
>>4893exactly what an /aut/ist would say
No.4896
return the boards
No.4909
>>4908why would you restore the locked threads