>>71525it's one thing to value entrepreneurship, and another to go out of your way to enslave and genocide other peoples because they're considered to be beasts and inferior to white anglo saxon protestants
the other day i learned that even in ww2 there were burgers taking the skulls of japs as trophies, boiling the meat off and bringing them home. that doesn't happen by accident or independent individual action
you can also point towards prohibition, the hays code, the satanic panic, the red scare, or their self image as world police ordained as the harbinger of freedom, these are clearly collectivist as far as this discussion is concerned and by no means trivial